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The PS4's Spectacular Dreams Game Is Hurting From A Lack Of Players

Once you push past the barrier of rushed and incomplete creations that seem to take precedence, Dreams has so much to offer players.

Knushwood Butt1305d ago

They need to promote the best content.

People need a reason to play.

I recommend Pig Detective 3.

Lore1305d ago

Unfathomable why they didn’t create an “app store” type of ecosystem, that permits creators to either put games up for free (with the option to accept donations for those wanting to support them) and another option to charge for their creations to be incentivized and Sony take a small percentage. Win win for everyone and would keep the dreams thriving.

solideagle1305d ago (Edited 1305d ago )

it is baffling why Sony didn't do it. This could have been potentially non-dev platform for players out there. Did they patch it for PS5? I agree with you 200%.
I also think this should have been on PC instead Horizon Zero dawn. I know I will get thousand disagrees but if it has in game store of sorts then this could become huge.

arkard1305d ago

It would be a licensing/litigation nightmare for anyone that is recreating games Ike MGS or whatever else they are remaking in dreams

Sonic-and-Crash1305d ago

i m currently playing ,/create in Dreams... is my 4thmost played game this year..its just the players that have problem not the game neither Sony ....try minigames like LOCK in Dreams and lot of other stuff to see what i mean

ILostMyMind1305d ago

@solideagle
You are totally right. HZD should never be on PC.

FreeFallFrenzy1304d ago

Dreams, in my opinion, could have been a perfect avenue for something like The Oasis in Ready Player One. Maybe not a robust as that, but a great starting point, much like how Sony had PS Home on the PS3. I think they missed an opportunity here with Dreams. Could've had a great potential for revenue from user-created content.

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Amplitude1305d ago (Edited 1305d ago )

The game launched pretty close to the end of the PS4 lifespan and had absolutely no hype whatsoever and felt somewhat incomplete (no VR support, for example - which was advertised, and the lack of it did make creation a bit clunky with the Moves in 2D)
I also had to drive to 3 different EB Games to find the one and only physical copy in my city. I dont think i saw a single ad on TV or in game stores or heck even online. None of my friends - who are all gamers - knew wtf Dreams was. I sold it after a few months, and recently picked it up again in the used bin at EB for $10.

I think they actually just need a full-fledge PS5 release once the console starts becoming more available, and with PS5 exclusive features compared to last-gen (i know we already have a better thermometer and framerate on PS5 but still) , and a full-fledged marketing campaign for the release. That, or make it free on PS Plus, or absolutely putting it on other platforms like PC would help a TON. It's definitely salvageable but right now it's pretty dead in the water imo. Hopefully they have some sort of plan to revive it.

It sucks cause the game is sweet but the lack of hype killed even my ambition to create content. Nobody's playing the content so what's the point of dedicating all that time and effort into making an art piece to be seen by only a few random people.

nveenio1304d ago

Actually, Dreams was available to play for like two years before release. It was filled with great content by dedicated gamers who were part of that early community. When it finally did release, it was to lackluster fanfare because of this. Everyone who cared the most had already been playing it for some time.

ManMarmalade1305d ago

Don't forget that nintendo wanted everything nintendo related removed from dreams.

Jin_Sakai1305d ago

They should offer the game free with PS Plus to boost the user base.

NecrumOddBoy1305d ago

This should be part of the PS+ Collection indeed. It’s really great but needs a solid base to survive.

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BioDead1305d ago

The reason why many don't play is the fact of how much time and dedication it takes to make something playable in Dreams. I have such plans to make a video game, but I simply have no time to get something done in Dreams. So many new video game releases and barely any time for them. The backlog list is endless at this point.

Even if someone is unemployed, they would barely have time for making games in Dreams, if they also wanto play other games, new releases and next gen stuff. Sigh. But playing other players' levels might be the only thing gamers could find time to do in Dreams.

Double_O_Revan1305d ago

I'm following someone on YouTube making an Avatar game. He's been streaming his progress constantly for months now. Even with all that effort so far, he's no more than 20% done, and I think that's a high estimate. He's he spent weeks just working on character movement. Now he's working on level building.

There's so much that is needed to make even a small game. If there are people out there making games as ambitious as the Avatar one, it will be another year before we see any of these games.

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nveenio1304d ago

Yes, of course it takes time. My personal approach is to use the Community Jams to help me figure out new ways to do different things for my "big" game. For instance, with "Elemental", I was tinkering with sound, camera, and other immersive aspects. With "8-bit Canvas", I was tinkering with wire limitations. With the "14th Annual National Pickle Spanking Competition", I was tinkering with scoring systems and progressive synchronization.

Building in Dreams is just like building a game in any other engine. There are thresholds of complexity that need to be understood, and it takes time to understand them. That's why so much stuff in Dreams, even when given a lot of time and love, just doesn't feel polished or is plagued with bugs.

Lionsguard1305d ago

Yeah, Dreams is freaking awesome but I think MM overshot people's time and expectations a bit. I still enjoy going to play people's creations but it's really just the same group of super talented people that pump stuff out. That can't last. They need to make this game for PC if they really want player numbers. And also yes, I find it difficult to find any time to play or create lately due to my expanding backlog of games totally probably over 600 titles by now and it certainly didn't help that I added 7 more during the winter sales events taking place.

RememberThe3571305d ago

I'm curious about the AI rendering that Nvidia showed off a while back. Does Dreams have anything like that to help with environments and little details?

https://m.youtube.com/watch...

Abnor_Mal1305d ago

I've said since it has been in development, and will continue to do so. Sony need to put this game/application on as many different platforms as possible, something such as this needs a much bigger community than just the PlayStation to survive. Just like MineCraft is everywhere and is still going strong, Dreams needs the same large community that can work on projects and build something truly incredible.

Forget MLB, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Death Srranding, Dreams is the one that needs to go to PC, Switch, Xbox, and mobile.

elazz1305d ago

A PC release would be a good start. With a variety of input options like a MK or Wacomb pen it would be easier to make game creations I believe. The reason why I'm not playing is that I finished the story and would prefer more content from Media Molecule themselves. I also believe multiplayer was recently possible and VR has been added not so long ago. An upgrade to make PS5 exclusive content would also be nice. If Sony wants to bump the player base they could always add it to PS Plus.

SmokinAces1304d ago

PC I could see happening the rest of that not so much.

Abnor_Mal1304d ago

Agreed, but ideally it should be on everything with a screen, to reach as wide an audience as possible.

specialguest1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Sure putting the game on several platforms will help, but it's not going to even get a quarter of Minecrafts success. Minecraft had great timing being one of the first of its kind, was heavily promoted by big youtubers(some made a career out of Minecraft), and most importantly it was so simple and easy for anyone to pick up and create their world. Even young kids could do it

Abnor_Mal1304d ago

Although it might never be as big as Minecraft, that really wasn't the point, but it would help grow the community like Minecraft. Even a quarter of the success of Minecraft would be better than the base it currently has.

Perhaps being on more platforms could get some youtubers interested in the game and start streaming how-to video and mega creations. This "game" also has the potential to help build someone's career, if they were to create something special and an animation studio takes notice.

FyBy1304d ago

Putting this to PC (with limitations to be able to playback on PS4) with VR would be the best thing they could do. Next is to monetize content for creators. And next is to better curate content.

Dreams is excellent application. Really excellent!

What also could help would be to make more official game content - like LBP was. And make more contests not only for demos but for real games with good prizes. Sony has money to do that. They have great platform (Dreams). They need only to push it better.

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GamerBeast19821305d ago

Cause it’s a game well a creation tool for a certain crowd. Nobody I know has any interest in it at all. Must admit I bought it day one played about for around 2 hours then deleted it . Send it to pc and more people will be interested on consoles it’s just not what many want.

Nuvem1305d ago

I always get a ton of disagrees, but here I go again: Little Big Planet 4 with a real 3D level creator would have sold more.

Magog1305d ago

You can use it that way easily if you want. There are level templates for exactly that sort of game.

nveenio1304d ago

Yeah, I mean…that's basically what it is. It's just more flexible. I think what you mean is that the LBP formula is simpler to use and therefore would have resulted in more creative success among a broader group of people, and I would agree with that.

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Sea of Thieves Developer Rare Now Has a Dedicated Doggo Park

Rare, the developer behind pirate adventure Sea of Thieves, has introduced a dedicated dog park to its studio grounds for employees' good boys and girls.

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CrimsonWing691d 5h ago

Is the industry hurting for money or not?

Hofstaderman1d 4h ago

They belong to XBOX. Its a dog's life....

Chocoburger1d 5h ago

Nice thing they did, but not actually gaming related, not sure why this article was approved. Also strange informing us what game Rare worked on, as if we don't know their legacy.

Tacoboto1d 4h ago

Sorry you hate dog news - here's a game-related headline for you, the latest: "Deathsprint 66 is a hyperviolent freerunner that proves game journos suck at games | Video Gamer"

Yeah we need more headlines like *that* on this site, instead of news about a studio's employee perks.

GaboonViper1d 4h ago

Its actually nice to see a story like this instead of the usual doom and gloom but people still moan, anyhow hope these beautiful doggos have a great life.

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GaboonViper1d 4h ago

Really nice story, kudos to Rare.

Mulletino11h ago

I went to look at new apartments and saw only dog parks, no kid parks. We're so screwed.

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Concept Art For Bluepoint's Next Game Spotted In PlayStation Tour Video

A new PlayStation Malaysia tour video shows what looks to be concept art for Bluepoint's next game.

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phoenixwing1d 8h ago

Damn was hoping for a fantasy setting. Looks futuristic

jznrpg1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think that’s a screensaver if you look to the right it looks more like a fantasy game and so does the concept art leaked earlier. Who knows though

phoenixwing8h ago

Unless that structure/pillar thingy in the right picture is long forgotten technology it's futuristic.

Name Last Name1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Another shooter? Yawn. Thought the prevous concept looked more fantasy.

just_looken17h ago

With there same look on the right a arena setting this might be live service game #5 from sony

So a live service shooter like concord.....

StormSnooper17h ago

It looks like a fantasy game on the right screen. You are looking at a screensaver.

Goodguy011d 7h ago

Been looking forward to what they have next. Looks interesting.

Eonjay1d 7h ago

Really excited to see them release an original IP

GaboonViper1d 4h ago

Looks like my dream of them remaking Metal Gear Solid is over, still cant wait to see what they are cooking up.

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World of Warcraft developers form wall-to-wall union at Blizzard Entertainment

The new unit comprises over 500 developers representing the entire World of Warcraft development team.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 17h ago

Unions in gaming are necessary fr fr

montebristo1d 6h ago

I used to be anti-union, it kills productivity, investment and turns product mediocre. Their games suck anyways though so what was lost? Might as well get their people paid until they are dissolved.

shinoff21831d 6h ago

Unions are necessary regardless of how you feel. You know how fked the working class would be without them. As if we're not already.

montebristo1d 5h ago

No they aren’t, regardless of how you feel. Unions make zero sense for skill based labor. They are for people who press a button every 10 seconds on an assembly line. “working class” is a made up term. I don’t care about corporations or developers, I just want good games lol. Killing your incentives to appease the lowest common denominator doesn’t lead to great games imo

montebristo23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I wasn’t trying to be offensive if I came off that way. The Union is an old mentality and I can see their usefulness but also the danger. We’re in the age of AI and robots and skill based labor. Unions can be dangerous these days. You could replace your entire workforce in one move. Checkmate. Look to the kiosk replacing workers in the 20 dollar minimum wage era.

Well run businesses don’t need unions. If you need a Union that business won’t survive anyway. Unless it’s propped up by the government with corporate welfare (which is the real issue). If you’re not going to spend some on your workers (Amazon, Google) then your welfare is cut off. No tax breaks. All you put together don’t match their wealth and resources, the union is a traditional memory at this point and counterproductive with this new enemy we face. They need a flying elbow from the top ropes. And by “working class is a made up term” I just mean we’re not a class system and even CEO Bobby Kotick puts in a days work lol. Or did.. It’s just a vague term that doesn’t mean anything no offense lol. People say “middle class” but that can change quick right? Up or down. That’s not a “class system”.