CD Projekt Red sought to mislead consumers and secure their bonuses when distributing review copies.
No Man's Sky all over again I feel sorry for WB publishing the game when WB publishes something its good.
Except NMS is one of the greatest turnarounds in gaming history. Cyberpunk's got a LONG way to go to make good on these crappy launch shenanigans...
I'm better off buying this game next year. Bugs will be fixed, added dlc, plus it will be cheaper.
CDPR didn't outright lie about the game they were releasing. The content they promised is there, it's just a janky mess. No Man's Sky was a straight up lie in design and mechanics. It's different, and I doubt it will take them three years to clean it up, either.
@Ted They straight up said the game "runs surprisingly well on PS4 and Xbox One" https://gamespot1.cbsistati... That was a big fat lie.
@SunnyD Maybe they meant the pro and XoneX
@sunny You need to reread my post and take it for its actual content. Comparing a company who sold you an entirely different game, based on misinformation given based on its core mechanics, is a little different than saying here's exactly what we said it would be, but it runs bad. Neither are acceptable, but comparing an unoptimized, buggy game to a complete lie of a product, in and of itself, is far from comparable. That was my point. That doesn't make Cyberpunk not a glitchy mess that still needed to cook, and I never said it didn't.
Nms still missing it's biggest features tho. Any way regardless, cdpr are just as bad here imo. Nms though was easily worse. These anti consumee practices make colonial marines look good
I loved Witcher 3 but I was toward the end of my hundred plus hours before they completely revamped the UI. They changed the game with smart fixes. By the time the ps5 version comes out it will be dope. It still sucks one of the most “pro consumer” companies around still launched it like that and sold record copies on anticipation alone. You don’t have any “well intentioned” friends in business or government that’s for sure. Live and learn protect your neck.
Not just that..but how many people were working in Hello. CDPR aren't just some small time developers. They're well well known for their Witcher series, the third winning more than 200 awards. They knew it wasn't ready, be it PC or Consoles but released it anyway.
NMS lied to us all the way till release, but when it was time to review it, people knew all the issues with that game, with Cyberpunk it was actually even worse, they only gave PC copies to reviewers and did not allow them to use footage from the console version on their reviews, knowing full well that only PC reviews would come before release and the unplayable mess that are last gen version of the game only now we are finding about it. CPR not only straight up lied to their customers, but also tried to hide the state of their game even after the time of release. Disgusting behaviour
Yep no excuse for this.
actually it was even worse. the early reviewers weren't allowed to use their own gameplay footage for their reviews, only footage provided and hand-picked by CDPR themselves. so CDPR knew even the PC version was buggy but manipulated the reviewers to garner high scores. most early reviewers sounded the same..."if you're willing to ignore the many bugs still in the game at launch, CP2077 is a great game" which is BS btw and some shameless reviewers even claimed it as the best game there has ever been, masterpiece, setting new standards, unparallelled etc...like WTF?
Comapring this game to NMS is a joke. The only issue are the bugs. The game itself reviewed great. And I know a few people with mid powered PC's enjoying this game right now.
In current gen consoles it's unplayable and they straight up lied to all of us, because they literally prohibited for people to show the state of the game before release.
It reviewed great, yeah 4 out of 10 is great, 2 out of 10 is great, 1 out of 5 is the list goes on. This game is the biggest disappointment in years. CdR knew the game was garbage even on PC and still put it out. My buddy is running it on a cpu he built himself and the game is still garbage. It has been in the works for over 8 years, at this rate they should have released it for the Ps6 and Xbox 1234567 Series ABC by then it might be playable.
I have a good pc and it plays like crap and I know it first hand. And my buddy is on a amd rig that is considered better than average and he is having the same problems so try again.
Then which game should it be compared to? Days Gone? DG got crapped on for bugs and glitches receiving 6s and 7s. Meanwhile CP2077 is 10/10. Have you played it? Its just not bugs and glitches.
@outsider1624 and the game got a 4 from IGN for the Ps4 version.
@cooperdnizzle I seriously doubt you have a good pc...or if you do then you must be trying to run the game at max settings.
LOL what? Thye HID what the game was liike, it looks nothing like what they showed, it is missing the things they said it would have. They hid reviews, and profited, this is every bit as bad, stop defending corporations sucker.
Its not just bugs and glitches, the open world is terrible, all window dressing, zero AI, interactivity, roads are empty, uncercooked, no Role playing like The witcher. This game was a scam.
remember Days Gone? that one Sony game reviewers ducked points majorly for being buggy? the current state of CP2077 is so much worse but didn't stop shill reviewers handing out 10/10 eventhough CDPR had them by the balls in their own review by not allowing console version to be reviewed eventhough it comes out the same day, and not even allowing real time footage to be used, only fottage hand-picked by CDPR themselves to boot. what a freakin joke these shameless reviewers are!
Only CD red doesn't have another publisher forcing them to push out their game.
Yes and no. Cyberpunk has bugs and framerate issues, No Man’s Sky was barely the game it was announced to be by lacking content.
At least Joel didn't die. Jk This is a let down. Right before the launch, I was talking with some friends about how cool CDPR was. And they decided to go 16xs the detail on us. It's still downloading so I am going to play it or write a crap article about why I decided to be angry. I haven't decided yet.
Well at least Cyberpunk can be fixed. You can't fix the trainwreck that is The Last of Us 2.
Trainwreck? Ohhhhh, you're talking about the Masterpiece that is The Last Of Us 2. The game that won a bag full of awards. Yeah sorry, that game is the opposite of a trainwreck. Maybe you need to get your head read.
You mean they're going to fix the terrible AI in CyberPunk? How long should we expect it to come?
Preach that shiz~!
Thou shalt not speak ill of the master last of us 2 its name is sacred!
Nah, it's game of the year.
They could fix it if they do Last of Us content between part 1 and part 2. But with Neil on the helm...yea this is likely the end of quality storytelling for Naughtydog. Their animation and graphics and voice acting will be top notch. But will likely have progressive lackluster stories to tell.
Train wreck? How? For me TLOU2 is the Best GAME OF LAST GEN. GOTY 2020. Amazing game, great story, Love Abby.
No problem, cyberpunk will get the trashaward of the year :)
@RgR "But with Neil on the helm...yea this is likely the end of quality storytelling for Naughtydog" Neil Druckmann was the main writer on The Last Of Us and Uncharted 4 and co-directed both games. If you think TLOU had a good story, then you think that Neil wrote a good story. It's his world (creative director). The Last Of Us and the relationship between Joel and Ellie would never have been what they were without him. Less feelings, more facts: https://thelastofus.fandom.... He was also a writer on Uncharted 1 and more so Uncharted 2 (obvious he was missing for Uncharted 3) and was a co-lead gamer designer on Uncharted 2.
90% of N4G will say LoU2 is perfection and point to sales, as they ignore the giant amount of YouTube videos with hundreds of thousands of likes picking the game, itself, apart, and the comments section cementing the fact the game's narrative highly fractured the fanbase.
Some of you truly deserve more broken releases like this. BTW, 60.1% completion percentage for the story completion trophy in addition to the sales. Ghost of Tsushima: 48.9%. FF7R: 54.0%. Don't let that deter you from telling us about your YouTube videos. LMAO.
Cyberjunk is worst than the GOTY 2020 known as The Last of Us 2. Cyberbug has Heinous graphics, uninteresting characters, bland voice acting, terrible AI and gazillion amount of glitches/bugs. I can't believe I'm saying this, Fallout 76 runs better than the abomination that is Cyberjunk 2077.
"Trainwrecks" don't win game of the year awards, get over it.
@potatoseal - game awards are nowadays popularity contests where the one with most sold consoles winn. Nothing more to it. But on that conosole you do get the best pick - and i was not TLOU2
aside from the bugs, It has the worst AI and combat that I have ever seen in any game, to fix that they need to recode the entire game. This crap isn't remotely close to well crafted TLoU2 game.
It is important for the community to learn from the lesson that, in the end, developers need more than one game to prove themselves worthy of trust. CDPR had a great multiplatform game, released full of bugs and with performance problems, and quickly received the same status from giants like Nintendo, Rockstar, Blizzard or Naughty Dog. The latter have a long history of quality in launch and support. Something that was given true to CDPR for its "friendly" way with gamers. The result is there. Even the apology should be ready before the game is released. Now we must press for those who want their money back to receive, who want to wait for it to be served (especially console owners) and put CDPR on the level it deserves. To get to the top of the stairs there is still a lot to prove.
except CDPR has released 3 games. And when it comes to open world games like Cyberpunk. If not a complete mess they always at least have their fair share of bugs. Now I don't say that to imply CDPR is off the hook. They should've known better and done better. If that meant pushing console launches back and releasing it on PC so be it. anyway. why didn't the people who had PC review codes and the big outlets question why there was no console code for review? I'm not in the industry but it seems odd that a multiplatform game like this would have only PC review codes. CDPR are first and foremost a PC developer. They always have been. But why is it that, for instance, IGN, Gamespot, whatever other bigger media places or even mainly console streamers didn't raise more of an alarm regarding there not being console review codes? Maybe it was mentioned but I don't recall ever seeing anyone raise an alarm that there were no console review codes/copies being given out. Right there should be a red flag. We can blame CDPR all we want but that one is something these people and outlets should've realized and dug into some.
A really big text to take CDPR out the hook and blame IGN.
@ loco. the 3rd sentence I stated "Now I don't say that to imply CDPR is off the hook" and followed that up in sentence 4 and 5 by saying "They should've known better and done better. If that meant pushing console launches back and releasing it on PC so be it." So no, it's not, as you say, "a big text to take CDPR out the hook and blame IGN." And seriously. An issue should've been raised by the games media industry for not having console review codes. Instead many of them jumped the gun and posted highly praising reviews. Then, for instance, just today [?] IGN finally posts a scathing PS4/XB1 review. And it's not just IGN. I said all media like IGN, Gamespot, etc and even the streamers. It's just funny/odd how not a single soul wants to point out that not only did CDPR drop the ball but so did these media outlets and streamers. They owe it their viewers to get it right. And bells should been rung when PC review codes were all that were available.
Funny thing is i saw this coming a mile away, not that it would be in such a poor state pe lr se, but that it was too ambitious to provide a solid experience on current consoles, especially given how poorly TW3 launched. I made up my mind to wait tof the next gen versions ages ago, if and when it gets to a stable state.
Actually TW3 wasn't that poorly. It had framerate issues ( that swamp area was the biggest problem, well around 20s ), but not so bad like C2077, and surely it's wasn't so buggy like 2077. CDPR fixed TW3 pretty fast, but C2077....it's a case study.
They didn't really have a choice. Imagine the backlash if they delayed it again
That still sounds like a choice
And the better option by far.
Yup. They had a choice and they made the wrong one.
Well, Zelda BotW was delayed from 2015 to 2017. They only put the game on the shelves when it was done. Way worse is to charge full price for a early access game.
I agree CDPR should have delayed it, but I don't think BotW is the same thing. BotW was a game on a struggling console that Nintendo finally gave up on about the time they pushed the Zelda launch. I'm sure part of that was to add more to the game, but the timing obviously shows us that they did it mainly so that it was available alongside their new console. It was as a shrewd & sensible move, to push their big new Zelda game to help shift units of the Switch. But also, Nintendo is bonkers rich. They could have Wii U level failures for probably 5 straight console generations and still have money in the bank. They have much less hinging on a single game than a dev like CDPR does.
Even if they had no choice but to release the game (which is frankly silly), they chose to deceive customers in all the ways highlighted in the above article.
Lol.. Or how about not giving a release date till you can actually deliver a project? :O Do you have a job? Can you give your boss a deadline for a project completion and then ask for extension after extension without consequence? It is a sign on incompetence. One or two delays yes. But they were not forced to give an original release date.
Simple. Release on PC. Delay the rest.
Imagine the backlash of releasing a broken game .
I'm perfectly fine with waiting. No backlash unless people really don't want quality. Sometimes people need to stop and think about what they're doing and why
There wouldn't be any backlash. Would people have been disappointed, sure but nobody would be raging because they need another few months or more. They lied, plain and simple. It was pretty obvious they were hiding something. Very little gameplay shown and when they started getting questions about the game then it was all about Keanu Reeves which also lead to very confusing marketing as it felt at times like he was the main character.
I imagined all the delays were going to prevent stuff like this in the first place.
They didn't have a choice but to defraud people? Uh...ok...
Would we way less then this, stop defending this company.
They were under pressure to release it this year, another reason not to announce games too early.
When you let Marketing run the show.
*Shareholders and senior level executives. They're the ones who will make sacrifices to get their big personal bonuses and paydays. The marketing team ultimately does what they are told.
Runs great on my pc. Unfortunately not everyone has a gaming pc
My friend builds his own cpu and it still runs like crap, buggy as hell not nearly as bad as console but yeah.
Just FYI, CPU stands for central processing unit. No one builds their own CPU.