Today CD Projekt Red took to Twitter to post a message acknowledging the issues affecting Cyberpunk 2077 on PS4 and Xbox One.
Now any person who is unhappy with their purchase can get a refund, whether you bought it digitally or whether you bought it physically. It's good of them to do this and they act like they're sorry, but they knew full well what they were doing by not allowing the last gen versions to get reviewed before launch. What they did really was sneaky and underhanded. But it's CDPR, so apparently they get a pass right? Anyway, I'm waiting until next year for a real next gen version and for them to fix most of the bugs
They did not get a free pass...they got plenty of heat hence this move. They are well respected but they should have delayed the game by few more months I think, so everyone would have been happy.
They should have been open and honest. They knew the state of the last gen console versions and hid it from people until after they'd taken their money. Option 1: Launching PC and last gen at once got them more money, but hampered their reputation. Option 2: Launching PC first (even though it's still buggy as hell) and waiting on the old consoles would have bagged them a little less cash, but been honest. Option 3: Launching all later, once next gen consoles are ready, would have protected their reputation, but lost them substantial holiday money. It seems to me Option 2 would have been the best approach. As it it, they chose Option 1 and have now issued an apology/refund. This means they still look bad and will lose a little money, but they know full well that the refund option will barely make a dent in what they've raked in. I wouldn't be surprised if the apology/refund move was planned well in advance of launch. This whole thing stinks.
They did not get a free pass from everyone, but they got a free pass from way more than they should have, including some reviewers who have some soul searching to do and should be questioning whether the fundamental purpose of reviews is to help their audiences make an informed decision or to serve as an extension of the marketing campaign for the products reviewed. Let's also give a special shoutout to those who have excoriated and campaigned against other games for less, some as recently as this year, whose reactions are comparatively muted when it comes to CDPR deceiving consumers, with a witting or unwitting assist from reviews, about a game littered with bugs and crippling performance issues. Step 1, objective s*** that should top people's list of priorities ahead of subjective elements like story quality.
No one should be respected for being sneaky & underhanded. CDPR should have been transparent/honest about the console versions from the very beginning which would have been the right & respectful thing to do especially to their fans & customers. One gets respect when respect is given.
SULLYS CIGAR The PlayStation and Xbox hardware are so much alike, they're both using AMD hardware. Like a PC has settings, it can't be that hard to adjust the settings, like on a PC, to each console. That's the whole reason Sony left behind Kutaragis brilliant innovation, far too ahead of the curve, for boring hardware parity, so ports that struggled were a thing of the past. The hardware with Series X and PS5 are so much alike, Sony and Microsoft may as well merge to build one console and let Nintendo be their competition, where Nintendo hardware is always vastly different, also using competitive hardware (nVidia).
"We should have paid more attention to making it play better on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One" is one of the most dishonest PR statements in quite a while." LOL They knew what they were doing! All the time! They delayed game few times to polish X1 and PS4 version. CDPR DELIBERATELY didn't want to show console version and they grabbed the money and ran. Hid the last version on purpose
Oh. Check this out. For the first time, Opencritic puts a PSA warning players not to play the console version of Cyberpunk 2077 on the review page. OpenCritic called out CDPR publicly. And overall score is tanking. Now it is 87. https://i.imgur.com/pUKw7RK...
Honestly I loved CDPR and was defending them until I tried the game on my ps4 pro.. taking to twitter now apologising is absolute BS, they knew what they was releasing
What's wrong with the PS4 Pro version? I saw it run on youtube, and in spite of the compression I thought it looked very good.
Whats the issue with the ps4 pro version? I ordered my copy but haven't received it as yet. Can you let me know what to expect?
Digital Foundry has a youtube channel. Check it out.
I bet they gambled on their rep because we won’t see another major title from CDPR for another 6-10 years where they’re betting most will have forgiven them or forgot
Why you got 17 disagrees when you are stating the facts? Yes its true that people to a degree give them a free pass, because they are not EA or Activision, they are CD Project Red! The Witcher 3 had a rocky launch as well and people respected them back then with all the fixes.
You'll be waiting a long time and it still won't be up to scratch with pc.
They're not sorry or they wouldn't have done it. They're sorry they have to face the music. This is the most volatile, wonky, unstable mess of a game I've ever played. Every system in the game is susceptible to failure at any time, and the likelihood of failure is always high. Totally undercooked, and completely oversold.
They know what they did. This "sorry" was planed even before they decide release date. It's a shame that CDPR's audience is so passive they launch a early access game full priced knowing that a sorry will "solve" everything. It's a shame.
You seem sure this will solve anything for them. I have friends who aren't gamers who know how pissed off people are about Cyberpunk. This isnt happening in the dark places on the internet. This is everywhere. Shoot my MMA twitter was blowing up about how bad it is. The word of mouth around this game is absolutely awful. The game is already on sale on Amazon and I have a feeling the post launch sales are going to be depressing for CDPR. They're basically going to have to relaunch the game on consoles. This has absolutely tanked their reputation from the looks of it. Everyone I remember being hyped up for this game are now condemning it, and rightly so. They've royally fkd up, and they deserve the heat.
This is entirely true. They knew what they had and released anyway so saying sorry now is just trying to save face. Or plain deceive people
This guys have no shame lol Sorry we lie and trick and fooled you. We will try to make the game look and play better but it wont look as good as it does on current gen. Who said it look good on current gen or high end pc lol Idk who are worse halo and Microsoft not seen how bad Craig looks or this losers i mean the game doesn't look tht bad but they are making seem like it looks like a next gen game(current gen now) hahaha this people are delusional. They fooled and hide the proof they knew what they were doing wtf and who are they trying to fool with this bs apology. I may try the game in a year or two once extra dlc is included and bug free and at a cheap price.. if is still somehow relevant which i doubt by that time we will have true current gen game making this more irrelevant than what it's. Shame on them.
And where did they tried to promote this game as a next-gen experience? The game was always promoted as a current-gen game for PS4 and Xbox1. The why you will get the next-generation game for free when you buy the current version of the game.
Is in their words not me they are claiming the game on last gen ps4 will be updated and look as good ( not perfect ) as it does on current gen ("next gen") meaning hige ed pc or ps5. The game look and perform very bad on last gen and perform and looks like a last gen game on current gen whichhas billion bugs is not a full game but more like a earlyaccess sold as a full game. Noting is next gen about this other than some textures. And rt but that can be added even to any game it doesn't make it different just look pretty. Which is ok
"in their words not me they are claiming the game on last gen ps4 will be updated and look as good ( not perfect ) as it does on current gen ("next gen") meaning hige ed pc or ps5." Then I would suggest actually reading their statement correctly They are talking about the BASE last-gen version of the game (meaning basic Xbox 1 and Vanilla Ps4) version of the game and they said that the patch would not make the game looks like it running on a high-end PC or current-gen version of the game (Ps5, series X ) but it would a closer to that experience that it is now.
It's fine you just need to understand base models are the worst. They should provide a 720p option though and try for 30FPS.
They did a better job
They should have just done what they did with the Witcher 2, released it for high end PCs (although this time they could include next gen consoles too) first and then spent a year or so optimising it before releasing it on old consoles and releasing patches for the PC to make it playable on mid range machines. DLSS is the one thing making this a 60 fps experience on my PC with RT reflections on. The game looks beautiful, especially with such good looking reflections. https://steamcommunity.com/... https://steamcommunity.com/...
I agree. Consoles should have just waited. It is still not perfect on PC, but runs extremely well for me. What GPU are you using?
I'm using a 2080Ti, which seems to be the bare minimum needed to get 1440p / 60fps with raytracing.
I agree, the game does look good on pc. I've been having fun in photo mode tbh xD https://steamcommunity.com/... https://steamcommunity.com/... https://steamcommunity.com/... https://steamcommunity.com/... https://steamcommunity.com/...
Damn those city pictures look like promo material
Never understood how photo mode in games gets people excited.
They advertised a current gen game, so they should have made a game that works on current gen base hardware. If they would have advertised it for high end PCs, then they should have made it for high end PCs and so on.
I am now at peace...
Honestly after seeing DF's video on the PS4/PS4 Pro performance, people have every right to be upset. They should've just cancelled the current gen versions. I'll defend the game itself as I've been enjoying it on PC, but there's no defending that.
Not sure why the couldn't just delay it again. In some ways I do feel bad for them. I think they just chew off more than they could handle and were trying with no MTs etc. It is an overly ambitious game with too many platforms and they were just over confident.
There probably would have been a major uproar if they delayed it again
An uproar if they delay it for another few months.. an uproar if its released broken... These dudes just cant win.
Every time I play the game (PS4 pro), instead of fully enjoying the experience I’m distracted by thinking if I should wait till I get the PS5 or just wait for the next gen upgrade. I know they’ll fix most issues & I know I’ll get back to it but unfortunately their move hampered their reputation. As much as I like & trust CDPR, with Cyberpunk 2077 they focused on creating dollars instead of creating fans...not good.
"We knew the console versions were a mess but we wanted your money and a 90+ on Metacritic. Now that we got both of those let's tell them we're sorry." I really don't accept apologies from anyone when they knew full well what they were doing.
CDPR: "Sorry (not sorry)"
I feel this apology is extremely disingenuous. They knew damn well the PS4 and Xbox versions were horrible. That's why they smokescreened the gaming media not allowing them to use review footage not provided by CDPR and by not providing review copies of anything but PC. They just rushed the game to make that holiday season money. As well respected as CDPR is as a development team, this left a really bad taste in my mouth. They pulled a total Bethesda/Bioware move.
GG CD Knew they wouldn't disappoint
They were developing this game alongside PS4/XB for years. However, during the process, they got introduced to next gen. So they got ambitious. They then proceeded to forget that that ambition will be limited by last gen consoles. This was the point the decision to delay or the choice to go next gen/PC should've been made. It wasn't. If people didn't give them heat, they would never have apologised. Even on PS5, this shit is crashing every 40mins-2hrs. The game needed another year or so in the oven. It was not ready and now CDPR ganna have to fight hard to win back console gamers trust.
I'm sure they're shaking in fear.
This is yet another prime example of the problem with an always connected console. Back in the day, Testers went through games with a fine toothed comb and when things looked good, ROMs and discs were then produced and pressed. Now, publishers are so greedy to hit deadlines to maximize profits during the holidays and end of fourth quarter to appease board investors, that quality and integrity are compromised. The Fix It Later business model uses and abuses internet console connectivity and consumer trust. Your developers are going to have to, as we're seeing now, put in the overtime anyway to do patches and updates, you may as well delay the game and keep your customers happy. Developers and Publishers have become lazy and complacent. Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 will finally be the foot that's put down that says WERE NOT PUTTING UP WITH THIS ABUSE ANYMORE! Internet connectivity is to obtain digital content, not fix it. It's been proven that play testing works, and you send the game out the press pre-launch anyway, so why aren't they doing their job either at giving necessary feedback? You may as well bypass the press altogether and simply release to the public, you don't need the press anyway these days either, E3 is proving that, Sony can stream their message right to their fans. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND SHOULDNT BE TOLERATED BY CONSUMERS! Good to see so many holding off on buying the game and demanding refunds to further push this statement, maybe this is the movement we need to ban the update. People need jobs these days anyway, put em to work doing quality play testing.
Proof again that shows that releasing an incompleted game can hurt your reputation a lot instead of postponing the launch and making sure it's completed. Now I believe that CDPR tried too much to please the crowd and media that put pressure on them to deliver the game after several delays instead of delay the game again and will pay the price in reputation. No matter how Cyberpunk evolves in 2021 don't expect this game to be on the GOTY list for 2021 even if the game becomes one of the best.
Should CDPR have delayed the project again? Or allowed for digital downloads onto the PS5/Series X/PC only? Yes. This is what happens when the pressure is on, getting lambasted because of the initial sets of delays, then to only to receive criticism for releasing a product that wasn't ready for every platform. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. It should have been next-gen only imo.
At least they acknowledge they f*cked up with the game and they are willing to fix it or give you your money back. That there at least shows they are trying and not leaving the customer out to dry and or politely telling you to f*ck off. I would have rather had the game pushed back a couple of months and had it polished off and playable. But having it out for the holiday season and in peoples homes for Xmas is asking too much. I'll either continue playing it to the point where I am annoyed and do like what I did with No Man's Sky and trade it in or I'll keep it and play it once it's fixed.
I just kind of hope this helps more people realize there's no profit in preordering - it helps publishers, not consumers. Reward them with a purchase when the product is worthwhile and not a moment before.
This game was always meant to be played on a high-end PC with max settings. I am lucky enough to be able to do that and I am enjoying it but I do sympathize with those on last-gen console who have been sold a dream game as opposed to a realistic one. I suspect, over the next few months and with various major patches the last-gen version of the game will improve but I agree with the sentiment that this game should have never released in the current state on last-gen consoles or it should have not passed certification.
Just to play devil's advocate here, this game was designed to work on the very latest pc hardware. Did we really think it was gonna look great on 7 year old consoles? Would you expect a switch version of this game to look equal to the ps4? This reminds me of the 16 bit era with games coming out on different consoles with wildly different graphics. It sucks but it's just life, maybe we shouldn't pre order games until we have seen a good few reviews? They held back the worst looking versions of their game until last minute because they looked and played terrible. From a business perspective, i kinda don't blame them.
Congrats to all the beta tester's who bought into CDPR line of shit. Hope you all get your money back.
I wonder how much interest they made in the short amount of time that the broken product was sold...
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