Cyberpunk 2077 is out today for all platforms. The game is now confirmed to run at an unlocked frame rate on new-gen consoles but suffers as a result.
"Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition is a remarkable launch-day port for Nintendo's new console. Its deep, diverse, and tangible world is fully realised with impressive performance for such a low-powered device. If you've not taken your first steps into Night City already, or you're a long-time player with a portable-play itch that needs scratching, you're in for a serious treat, choom." - Alex Olney | NintendoLife
I'm glad I hadn't played it yet. Glad to hear Switch 2 is getting some decent ports. As a handheld game, this sounds amazing. Now, I'm not sure if I'm going to wait for the first sale, or go ahead and dive in. My Switch 2 just arrived an hour ago and I'm going through the System transfer ATM.
I spent all that dough on a Switch 2 and Mario Kart and have fallen in love with Breath of the Wild all over again, I simply cannot stop myself from playing it!!!
I still haven't played Cyberpunk but figure I'll pick that up for my PS5Pro at some point. I am keen to play it but am going to hang on a little longer in the hope if a PS5Pro patch.
Same here, despite being a Nintendo fan I have never liked handheld gaming so I will always opt to play multi-platform games on my PS5 where i can.
Plus you can always play it as a handheld with cloud gaming on gamepass or remote play on PS5.... I've tried both and I'm really impressed with how well it actually runs ..
"There are two graphical modes: Quality, which targets 30fps and higher fidelity; and Performance, which ekes things out to an unusual (for a console) 40fps."
Lmao!! This not "superb". This is subpar.
Does it need to be stapled to the front of every review switch 2 is a portable system .
Ahhh yes. The built in "get out of jail free card" for every single criticism when Switch 2 game that runs inferior to the competition.
If it was behind say a steam deck or rog than yeah it deserves criticism and a conversation but so far it's giving us results in cyberpunk far greater than the steam deck it's not even in the same ballpark.
Watching cyberpunk on steamdeck it's more wild that it ever got certified because it hitches and stutters constantly in crowded environments. S2 has frame drops in crowded environments environments but not hitching or outright stuttering.
Your comment just comes across as hating the s2 for existing rather than a legit criticism
I dont hate the Switch 2. I will get one eventually but it will be to play Nintendo 1st party titles only.
Im just saying, let's stop with the patronizing praise for 3rd party games that are running at inferior framerates and resolutions, as if its some great accomplishment on a device that costs more than a PS5 Slim and far inferior in performance. There is no reason whatsoever any self-respecting gamer would choose to play this inferior port over playing it on PC or PS5/Xbox. Im not letting Nintendo off the hook, just because they chose this hybrid design over making an actual, real home console. Sony and MS couldnt get away with this if their platforms ran games this poorly. So Im not letting Nintendo get away with it either! Rather than heaping false praise on these ports, let's just recognize them for what they are. Inferior versions of 3rd party games where mobility is its only redeeming quality.
Cyberpunk 2077 sees impressive results on Nintendo Switch 2, delivering image quality on par with Xbox Series S and PS4 Pro.
Lets you know we basically have a portable ps4.5
Dlss will definitely help too. Quite excited how Nintendo's future 1st party will look and perform especially zelda and xenoblade. And we can finally say goodbye to a lot of games built for 720p finally as Nintendo is always the one behind in hardware power for the whole games industry.
So performance of Cyberpunk 2077 on the brand new Switch 2 puts the performance on the 2012 PS4 and 2016 PS4 PRO to shame?!!! Well done Twisted Voxel for highlighting this shocking performance disparity - Sony should be embarrassed of itself!
"Sony should be embarrassed of itself!"
You are forgetting its a handheld.
And even with delayed launch with older specs, the Switch 2 is matching Series S with upscaling is no small feat. And Series S runs same games as PS5, albeit at reduced res and frames.
@RaidenBlack
"You are forgetting its a handheld."
No, we're not doing this. I refuse to allow Nintendo this "get out of jail free" card everytime a 3rd party game runs worse on its hardware vs Sony's and MS'. Especially considering it costs more to buy!
First of all, its not a handheld, its a dockable hybrid! Nintendo is the one who chose this wonky hybrid design, rather than making a real home console. No one made them, so they will take the criticism when game performance is inferior to the competition's. They shouldn't be shielded from this just because this is the path they chose.
That may be the game to get me to buy a Switch 2. I don’t care about third party on Switch 2 at all so I’m waiting for exclusives I would play to pile up some. Xenoblade is one of them, Fire Emblem and Astral Chain type of games.
@jznrpg
Honestly, I'm more excited about the Xenoblade series than Final Fantasy and Tales on PS5. My game time on Xenoblade 2 and 3 is both 300+ hrs each compared to just 150+ hrs on FF games and 80+ hrs on Tales of Arise.
I mean, the thing holding back the Pro is the CPU, not the GPU. It outperforming a 2013 CPU should be the least expectation, IMHO.
So it’s on par with the Xbox S….but according to some on here the series S holds back gaming. So what the narrative going to be on the Switch 2? Cricket, Cricket, Cricket………..hmmmmm that’s what I thought
Switch 2 has DLSS thats gonna help a lot. Forgetting CP was a last gen game. Let's see if the Switch 2 runs actual new games before running that narrative
Cyberpunk 2077 is not a last gen game. It is a current gen game that was ported to last gen consoles and we saw the result.
That game supports more next gen features than 95% of the games on the market today.
Whether or not it struggled it's still a last gen game. That's the way it was originally designed
@divinehand
Yeah, so current gen that they made a last gen console for it and marketed it as a ps4 and Xbox one game.
***Cyberpunk 2077 is not a last gen game. It is a current gen game that was ported to last gen consoles and we saw the result. ***
No, it is a last gen game. If it can be played entirely as intended on last gen hardware, then it was designed for that. Zero features other than graphical are missing from the PS4/XBO version of the game compared to any other game. Not even improved AI or the like exists between them. It is a last gen game.
@andy85 I highly doubt CDPR wanted to release their game in that state. It got so bad that Sony delisted the game and when it went back up they added a disclaimer for people on PS4.
@franwex that is why they got so much backlash because last gen consoles were not good enough to run the game in a state that matched the footage CDPR was marketing.
@Christopher none of the improvements since Patch 2.0 are available on last gen consoles. That patch brought in many features that are not only graphical and performance improvements. I have linked an article that list some of them
https://gamerant.com/cyberp...
***@Christopher none of the improvements since Patch 2.0 are available on last gen consoles.***
You do realize that this isn't changing your claim that the game was not designed for last gen hardware, right? Future updates not being older hardware compatible isn't the same as what you said at all.
still runs at native 720P and less, upscaled to 1080P
that is so last gen
the game might be last gen or in between this gen, but it looks amazing at native 4k on the PC, but I know you cannot compare the Switcheroo 2 to a PC
Borderlands 4 is not a port, but was developed on the Switch 2 along with other versions. Let's check it out and compare it to other versions when they release.
Cyberpunk is absolutely not a last gen game. They designed for PC first and then tried to cram it together at the end of the dev cycle and that is why its an absolute disaster.
By that same logic, games like Arkham Knight or Witcher 3 that run extremely compromised on Switch 1 (and in the case of AK, probably one of the worst performing games ever) are basically PS3 level games
Idk what’s the denial that series S is holding back the stronger series X.
It’s just common sense and the fact that some people won’t except it, it’s pure fanboy logic.
Imagine no series s.
Series X will go crazy man.
Imagine how good the games would look on PS5 if it wasn’t for the Xbox series s bro!
Oh they are also releasing the game on switch 1 and ps4? Nah. It’s the series s.
imagine no consoles, pc would have gone crazy.
It's not denial because games are modular. why wouldn't the base ps5 hold the ps5pro back then? Do you think that if a game is created for ps, xbox and pc that the pc version is just a completely different thing? because there i can set shadows to low, medium, high, ultra without the ultra version having been compromised. Imagine if they could also do that for the completely stand alone console version...oh wait...
The conclusion yall come to: weakest platform that you don't prefer, that's the one that holds gaming back, but if your preferred platform is weaker than another. the same logic doesn't apply. fanboyism in its ultimate form, its gross.
FRANWEX
yes exactly,
Look at my comment history.
I said it before. pS4 held back the PS5. Prime example horizon forbidden west and burning shore.
Oh you didn’t check because your also a fanboy that thinks I’m only targeting Xbox.
Michiel
Uhh no.
There is a lot of Pc only games that look phenomenal and way better then any console games.
Using PC as an argument for a CONSOLE argument is weak move.
The argument for PS5 and pro is also dumb, because PS5 came out first and that’s Sony’s main platform. Pro is just an enhancement for the PS5. They will never make it its prime developing point.
But series X is the main platform and series s is a downgraded version that needs to run just as good as series x??
SERIES X can never truly meat its peak when Series S is holding it down.
Where PS5 can go as high as it can because the Pro is just there for its better version.
I don’t get how you can be in such denial. It’s literally common sense
@michiel1989 the base PS5 doesnt hold back the pro because its designed for the base PS5 specifically. It's not designed for the Pro then scaled back. That's why the S holds the X back because its designed for the X
Go back and look at my comment history also. I’ve been critical of the FORCED PARITY that Xbox instilled this Gen. I’m critical of the policy, not the console.
But yeah. The point is that all that Gen argument was essentially moot due to the success of the switch 1 and PS4.
@andy so you think that for pc, xbox and ps5 they create seperate versions of a game?
But ok lets run with your false theory, wouldn't the xbox game just be made for xbox series s and x then and have no effect at all on the ps5 version?
@pwn the consoles nowadays have the same architecture as pc, they create one version of the game and then just make it work on the non-lead platforms. Also you can see for many trailers from the past, they develop the game with way higher settings than it will actually run and then they downscale. Just look at the watch dogs trailer and then how it turned out for example. Also so many things that are wrong with your xbox statement. Who decided that series x is the "main platform", ps5 is main platform cause it came out first but s and x came out at the same time? and the games don't have to run the same on x and s, they need to have the same features. Like the x version can't have splitscreen for a game while the s don't. one can run at locked 60 fps while the other runs between 30-60fps, no problem at all. You know absolutely nothing about it and about general development of games yet S HOLDS THE INDUSTRY BACK!
Michiel
If you don’t want to believe then it’s fine.
And none of this is my conclusion but the word of other devs.
Why do you think a lot of switch version don’t come out till later?? Because they need to put extra effort into making it work.
Devs literally came out saying they have to take extra precautions when developing for series s, putting in extra resource and time to make it work.
That’s literally called holding back.
If you run a relay race and you have a weaker and slow partner it doesn’t mean you won’t finish the race but you are being held back from reaching your peak.
Slowing progression to a result is literally what holding it back mean.
Your not as knowledgeable as you think you are.
Facts are fact.
Look at horizon forbidden west and burning shores.
That’s the difference when a weaker console isn’t holding back.
And if Series x isn’t the main platform, why do they show the games running on Series X and not Series S, I don’t think I have ever seen them run Series S first before the Series X. Most of the time Series S is shown way later and everyone is just happy it runs at 30 fps.
“But ok lets run with your false theory, wouldn't the xbox game just be made for xbox series s and x then and have no effect at all on the ps5 version?“
That’s why a lot of games run better on the PS5 and no, no developer is going to release a way better version than the other.
They literally say it all the time they strive to make all platform run the same.
Dumb example.
Michel1989 i mean in a way. Console versions are much easier and on a similar architecture. That's why when a PC version is decided on for a game its not as simple as changing the settings. Sometimes it takes a solid year for that PC version to come out. And who said the Xbox versions affect Playstation? I didnt. I said the S holds the X back. Nothing to do with Playstation.
The forced parity is holding console gaming back-if Microsoft would’ve been successful with the console.
That’s what the complaint was about. It was dependent on the success of that particular console.
Turned out the Switch 1 was gonna be the one holding back gaming, but that was supposed to fail.
It also turned out that last gen held back console gaming as they still make games for it. That wasn’t supposed to occur either. Hehe
It's all about the CPU. If most studios aim for Switch 2 for their games, then we're being held back one generation based on a single platform. Least common denominator thing. The Series S is a huge struggle for current generation and the problem isn't that it couldn't do it, it's that it couldn't do it in a fashion that Microsoft would want it to be advertised (very low resolutions and heavily reliant on AI graphic generation).
And ms screwed the pooch with designing it with less ram than it actually needed. Failure in design.
The Series S isn’t holding gaming back anymore, because developers are prioritizing base PS5 as their default console, and flat out skipping Xbox is they have to, or giving the Series S whatever it gets and try to optimize later, which honestly is the approach it should have been, but MS wanted parity.
The Series S was holding back flagship development of games that needed more RAM. It has nothing really to do with the CPU or GPU. The CPU is basically the same as the Series X, and the GPU could have been better, but resolution and lower asset settings can fix that in the majority of games.
The problem with the Series S is many games are starting to need that full 12GB of RAM buffer or they’re flat out unplayable. This is why performance on PC GPUs that are more powerful than the consoles in raster, are at times getting outperformed by base consoles because their 8GB VRAM pool isn’t enough and tanks performance nearly cutting it in half.
So if you have a VRAM cap (less than 10GBs) on a console that’s already has a GPU that’s performing at around 1/3 the performance of the Series X & PS5, the developers game is memory starved, and at the time Microsoft had a parity clause, then yes the Series S was holding back development.
Cyberpunk didn’t have a 60fps option on Series S when it first launched, PS5 and SX did. Developers have left out modes, and now skipped Xbox all together, when their games are also having issues on PCs with low VRAM.
The Series S is going to be the platform developers use to port games to these handheld PCs, Switch 2, etc…. DLSS is what is going to help the Switch 2 out tremendously, because Cyberpunk is a 540p game being upscaled to 1080p thanks to DLSS and why it still looks quality.
I mean for me it's an amazing handheld that can also happen to play on the TV. It didn't replace my PS5 or my PC, but for someone who doesn't have a Steam Deck (or other portable PC), I'm pretty blown away by its handheld performance.
why would the Switch 2 be comparable to a Series X or PS5? It's a fraction of the size.
Welcome to 2025, where efficiency and architecture matter more than size. The Switch 2’s chip is newer and I’m hoping is way more efficient than the PS4 Pro’s dated hardware. Throw in DLSS and some modern tricks, and yeah, it could absolutely outperform something from 2015. I made the comment because it’s not an impressive comparison, whereas… well, you get the picture.
@CrimsonWing69 - having something equivalent to a PS4/PS4 Pro in your hands is nothing to scoff at. Go look at TLOU2 running on a Pro and imagine having that on the go. Amazing how suddenly PS4 games are ugly now.
The Switch 2 chip is only newer in release date. Technologically it’s from the same generation of GPUs inside of the PS5 and SX, just NVIDIAs lowest end offering. So it was never a PS5 or for that matter Series S competitor.
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a few dips here and there and it calls it terrible framerate pacing?(next gen consoles) its actual video proves it wrong, hmmmm this some of the reasons I give a damn about some reviewers, they just go ahead and put some click bait headlines just to get some hits on their websites.
The video just shows PS5 so why say Xbox Séries X too!?
I played for a few hours on my One X last night and while it’s an awesome game, the frame dips started making me ill.
So I got my series x yesterday and have been playing this on it. Honestly I’d rather just stop because it stil feels unfinished. Using performance mode you can see a lot of haziness on hard edges while moving the camera from the antialiasing and image reconstruction that cdpr is using. Most likely the original image render is sub 50% of actual 4k on performance mode. The 30fps mode works fine but the hit to the framerate from 60 is just unbearable for me. It loads stuff fast and generally runs well. Also the hdr implementation in cyberpunk is kind of terrible. Even the calibration screen is unintuitive.
But I’d rather wait til they fix it. In general I’d say even series x feels a bit unfinished. I’m using it on the lgcx and randomly the tv would switch to a sub 4k resolution and I’d have to restart the tv to fix it. If you switch to 120fps mode sometimes the vrr gets disabled and screen tearing galore happens on games like call to sea. Which again restarting the tv fixes it. When it’s running well and working as advertised it works like a dream. But things like hdr randomly don’t kick in. Quick resume is still one of the best features of the system right now. Playing yakuza in the morning switching to call of the sea and playing gears with friends in the evening and then surprise surprise yakuza is right where I left off the next day same with call to the sea. That’s a brilliant feature.
Currently Using all the latest updates. Not sure what’s the situation on ps5. Also Playing gears 5 on series x feels glitchy and unpolished. Idk if this console or this tv was ready for this. Definitely feels like updates need to be coming in hot to fix these things. Things will get better I’m sure since the one x works smooth as butter still on these games. Covid year definitely has caused a lot of issues I’m sure.