Microsoft just hosted its Shareholders Meeting, and its executives had interesting comments to share about the Xbox and gaming business.
Eh, I'll take a wait and see approach with the new Xbox. Hopefully they will have some interesting exclusives (including new IPs) in the future. Not interested in Gamepass, personally.
Isn’t the Xbox Series the worst console launch ever? Even Xbox One had better launch titles.
nope, not the worst. As for the launch titles, yup. I still have the three "Day One 2013" launch games, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5 and Ryse: Son of Rome. Kinect Sports Rivals was supposed to be the fourth one with that branding but it got delayed. I do feel there was a huge missed opportunity with no special launch day branding like before. And we all know the story of Halo Infinite. That was supposed to be the magnum opus but... shit happens.
Well according to Microsoft. Series x had the greatest launch lineup in history!
Worst lineup ever, but best xbox launch.. Very logical
It's certainly the most bland. The XSX is quite unexciting and dull compared to PS5. Not one - not ONE new game. There's never been a console that hasn't launched without special/exclusive games until now. Microsoft are completely leaning on GamePass. It's just inexcusable. What an absolute joke.
Maybe in terms of exclusive games. But at least it wasn't $100 more expensive but 40% less powerful with an accessory that people didn't want like last time. Don't get me wrong, PS5 is gonna have a WAY better first year but at least XSX from a hardware perspective is OK.
Most disappointing, given the lack of launch titles.
No. The 1st party software for the Series X at launch is lacking obviously. The console itself is a beast. Its not a sprint its a marathon.
@darth, you disagreed then confirmed what he said in the same in the same paragraph lol. It is the worst launch line-up, not just of xbox but ever.
@dragon, maybe you have comprehension issues. He asked two different questions. The first was about the worst console launch ever. To which the answer is no (worst would likely be the virtualboy or the nuon or anything that is obscure to this day). The second was then about launch games, to which the answer is yes. Do you see how there can be two different answers for the two different questions?
@darthv72 "nope, not the worst. As for the launch titles, yup." Umm.. You say it's not the worse launch, yet agree the series X has the worse launch games?? Maybe it's just me, but I feel they go hand and hand, which is why I say that it is the worse launch in history! Think about it bro, launching a next gen console with absolutely No GAMES!!!?? It's like releasing a diner table SET with no chairs.... Here's the diner table, however you'll have to wait a couple years for your chairs to arrive😂🤣
@army, it is just you. Because everyone else knows that there are hundreds of existing games to be played on the series X. Improved even. And just think about those who skipped out on the XBO and got the series X. wouldnt those games all be new to them? Like i said, it was not the worst launch when it comes to the console. There are lots of games to play but in regards to "launch titles" it is true the xbo had its own games (ones that were not cross gen). So it is like i said, both can be answered respectfully... and I did. As for your diner table... so who is to say you cant use your existing chairs while waiting for some new ones to be made? If somebody buys a table with no chairs then its pretty obvious they have their own for now. Hell... I have bought numerous consoles without controllers because I have plenty. You can get them cheaper that way too.
So what's Microsoft got for next year? Psychonauts2, Halo Finite, Starfield, Doom Ancient Gods 2, Ghostwire, Deathloop and maybe Age of Empires 4 and something from Compulsion games.
Ghostwire and Deathloop are PS5 timed exclusives. Starfield and the next Doom (is it even announced?) don't have release dates and will most likely be multiplats anyway, lol. Your best bet for next year is Halo and that's about it. EDIT: Unless you're talking about PC.
Halo Infinite, Forza, Exo Mecha The Gunked, cross Fire X, The Medium. Starfield is a rumor. HB2, Compulsions New Project and The Initiatives game could release next year.
ps5 have final fantasy 16 gt 7 ratchet and clank horizon kena god of war ps5 ni oh and 1 and 2 collection due in 2021
Halo and Psychonauts 2 are the only confirmed first party which is bare bones. Forza, Fable, Doom and Starfield (both could be multiplat) are possible, but we'll have to see. But they do have some 3rd party console / timed exclusives coming like The Medium, The Gunk, As Dusk Falls, Bright Memory Infinite, Scorn, Second Extinction, The Ascent, S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 which is a solid total quantity-wise, but none of these 8 3rd party exclusives are system sellers. If everything makes it this year they have 10 exclusives of which most are B and A tier games + Halo, so Forza and Fable are definitely needed to improve the quality of exclusives they will have.
literally clutching at straws here.
At this point I am thinking PS5 as soon as I can get hold of one and for any MS exclusives which look worth playing in the future I will use my PC. I had a promotional Gamepass sub this past year but it ends in January and I won't bother renewing it right away. If other people use their platform and services alot then great. Just doesn't hold enough appeal for me.
The Ex CEO Steve Ballmer back in 2010 and 11 wanted to turn the console into a entertainment hub focusing apps and general entertainment center. Only speaking about games second. Sure he and Mattrick attempted to open up studios but had no idea how to manage them, never hire GM's to over see projects and the general health of those studios. Not believing in any other types of game besides Halo, Gears and Forza. Having a 400M$ NFL deal that never actually amounted to anything. New leader of the company and a new head of Xbox that are both on board with gaming does give the console allot more confidence heading into a new generation. A wait and see is wise I must say.
"...A wait and see is wise I must say.." - nothing different from previous generations, just wait... and wait... and wait...
I have said this countless times. It's like people dont even know that the changing of the guard (so to speak) was for the better. Yes the previous heads of both MS and XB had different intentions that werent in the best interest of the gamer. The current heads do and we are seeing the fruits of their labor unfold each day. Acquisitions of studios thought to be unobtainable and making deals to bring even more 3rd party releases on day one to GP subscribers. I remember when Ballmer said his focuswith xbox was to kill Sony. Yeah that didnt go so well and Nadella has no such issues with Sony at all. He is focused on moving MS forward with new ventures and partners while he leaves the handling of XB to Spencer (who is doing much better than Mattrick ever did).
The “new guard” has still relied on halo forza and gears all gen. There has been no less than 5 forza games released in 7 years Ms still can’t manage studios. The halo reveal in July was a train wreck. Halo 5, gears 4 and 5 are all the lowest rated in the franchise. Not to mention the cancellations they have had this gen. phantom dust remake anyone? So far their new studios have done nothing. Oh ninja theory did release bleeding edge under Microsoft. Their lowest rated game yet
@Russo Well this generation just started. MS bought studios to work on X X Series games. They secured no such studios or talents with the X1.
Which means you won’t see any games til the second half of this gen life cycle. It’s going to be a long wait....hope they turn out good.
So that's the excuse? Really? Please explain how with almost the same amount of studios as Playstation for the last 8 years to have such a pathetic output of games? Or how Nintendo with less studios have made more exclusives for the Switch than Xbox has? Truly mismanaged. Just look what the major up and coming games are. Halo, Forza are up and coming! Yay....
"So that's the excuse? Really? Please explain how with almost the same amount of studios as Playstation for the last 8 years to have such a pathetic output of games? " Don't make up things you know that gets me hot. MS had 5 studios and Sony had 13. Everyone knows that so let's not make believe information that everyone here tends to do. "Or how Nintendo with less studios have made more exclusives for the Switch than Xbox has?" Well gee Chev I dunno maybe because Nintendo's entire fortune and Foundation is based on video games? Nintendo would go under fast if they didn't release any of their flagship franchises and didn't invest in gaming. Clearly MS has the financial muscle to pursue other ventures (foolishly and stupidly) but they did. Truly mismanaged. Just look what the major up and coming games are. Halo, Forza are up and coming! Yay.... Halo, Forza, Exo Mecha, Stalker 2, gunked, cross fire x, as dusk falls, the medium confirmed for next year. Then you're gonna say "what about the big AAA blah, blah. Ever wild Avowed, Fable, HB2. The Initiatives new game. Don't cherry pick the games coming to the platform.
I understand waiting, but to see their recent moves and acquisitions I don’t see how they could be focused on anything else other than a pure gaming experience.
Microsoft Boss Discusses Gaming Strategy: "We Are Absolutely Very, Very Much Focused on Gaming As Service “ THERE I FIX IT. To reflect what they truly mean
Get over yourself, xbox has had a good launch I bet, I for one got Series S and so happy I got it. Games will flow when they come out and with MS and it's new devs brought not so long ago those games take time to build, I can be patient especially since I have game pass ultimate.
I don't think I said anything outrageous, Calm down.
Same here. I got suckered into dropping $500 on the launch version of One thinking they’d replicate the magic of 360. With Game Pass making games available across their “family” of Xbox consoles and PC, and practically ZERO Series X-clusives, they’re not even trying to make the Series X a must have console.
just wish that microsoft would do what they say they're gonna do instead of constantly yapping about it.
"we continue to expand our opportunity to reach the world’s 3 billion gamers" Their heads are in the clouds.
yeah....but the saying is plural. https://en.wiktionary.org/w... Guess it could be played either way really.
Remember when they said they wanted the Xbox one to sell 1 billion units 🤣 https://www.digitalspy.com/...
did you actually read it though? He wasnt saying specifically xbox (one) selling 1 billion. It was combined sales of systems. We arent there just yet but we know that Sony alone has done more than half of that number. Add in the likes of Nintendo, Sega, MS and even Atari and it gets up there. It's crazy to think is such a short amount of time how many game systems have been sold.
"..But the broader vision we have is to ensure that the 3 billion gamers out there..." - Phil, oh Phil, you're lying to your boss, take care if he discovers it. Or, I don't really know what they're smoking at MS headquarters.
He's clearly talking about with the use of X Cloud. Through phones, PC's and tablets not consoles.
If they smoked anything good we might see some better ideas.
@Razzer your use of the word "clouds" was correct and I agree with your comment, but I think Abriael was using a play on words as in "the power of the cloud" that Microsoft refereed to. It was meant to be "punny." At least that is what I think. Otherwise the correction to singular is a bit silly.
I'll believe it when I see the exclusives that grab my attention and draw me into grabbing a Series X
We all know Microsoft does not have exclusives... Microsoft has moved on from exclusivity.... Obviously you haven't. No XB games are exclusive. They ship on PC at least alongside XB. And before you say, "Then, there is no reason to buy an XB because I can get the games on PC".... Maybe people buy XBox so they don't have to buy a gaming PC. So Microsoft isn't going to release anything you aren't interested in? Continued Minecraft releases? Elder Scrolls VI? Starfield? Everwild? Avowed? Halo Infinite? The next Gears game? Forza Motorsports 8? Forza Horizon 5? Flight Simulator on console? Hellblade 2? Fable? Psychonauts 2? State of Decay 3? Compulsion's next game? The Initiative's first game - with many people coming from Tomb Raider and God of War? Death Loop? Grounded - Final Release? Continued Doom releases? Continued Wolfenstein releases? Anew Dishonored or Prey game? Ghostwire? Continued Elder Scrolls Online releases? inXile's next RPG? Yup, nothing there for anyone. Just a bunch of garbage.
I was going to say you need to keep some of those exclusives Xbox only to bring in the customers to buy an Xbox. Not a Forza fan, Gears is just wait until its cheap to buy not day one any more for me. State of Decay is boring as hell played State of Decay on Xbox Pass found it boring. You need to grasp you can list off as many exclusives as you want but Microsoft lacks the games that push the boundaries and entice the fans they need exclusives that top match or beat Sony. I play a Sony exclusive I say holy shit this is great I want more. A Microsoft exclusive I play its like meh glad I bought it cheap. And as for Doom, and Wolfenstein who knows how Microsoft will run that they don't take full ownership until 2021 with their Zenimax deal.
When are any of those games coming though? You think Sony and Nintendo won't also release games during that time? Everwild is so early in development it will be what 4 to 5 years out? Compulsion and Team Ninja are using UE5 which doesn't come out till next year. Also as good as these games may be there's a ton of sequels too. Halo, Forza, Horizon, SoT etc. Like 1/2 that list are sequels
Mediocre list. Microsoft indeed have money but aside from their wonderful Windows OS and Office Programs, the rest are trash even their browser and search engine, windows phone and other crap they have. lol If Gamepass fails to take off especially with that 7.5B, All these poor developers will go the way with how Mixer went. All the way to the Trash Bin. Look at Ninja and Shroud back at Twitch like nothing happened LMAO.
@Chevalier I wasn't comparing any vendor to any other vendor. Just tired of a lot of non-gamers saying Microsoft isn't making any games... I wasn't comparing vendor to vendor. I agree the timeframes of the games are unknown. But, to say MS has nothing is really factually wrong. @jairusmonillas LOL. Sure.... You are really living in the past... Windows Phone - MS shutdown years ago Edge- MS just released a Chromium based version over a year ago so it is now a Edge is pretty much chrome Bing - well something has to be there to keep google as honest as possible If all of those games are mediocre then you obviously don't like games. Many of those IPs are critically acclaimed. I'm not saying you will like all of them, but there are many really good IPs in that list.
Not going to pick apart your list although there's plenty there for the picking but he didn't say there's nothing there for anyone he said something that grabs his attention.
After years of complaints, they better be. And after pulling out the checkbook, they better have all kind of exclusives available.
'We always have sort of focused on ensuring that our gamer community, that counts on us to produce the best consoles, has a new generation of consoles, which are powerful and, you know, really great for gameplay. And we are supporting it with the best content and with the best community.'. Define, 'the best content'.
Well, to be fair, he said "sort of" lol. What kind of exec says "sort of" in a shareholder's meeting? Do you think Satya will be surprised when he learns that people aren't interested in streaming games over crappy internet and no one is buying the uninspired black boxes?
@ crazy Yeah, the 'sort of' thing made me laugh too.
I caught that also. Made the comment seem insincere.
Oh Phil, just please stop talking. You launched a console with zero exclusives. Let me say that again. You launched a console with ZERO exclusives. No other console launch has done that. I can't adequately articulate how pathetic that is. You are an absolute laughing stock. Stop talking, stop lying, stop telling everyone you're focused on gaming when you are clearly not, and actually produce something of value.
"stop telling everyone you're focused on gaming when you are clearly not," Oh they're not? What have they been doing for the past few years then?
That's a very good question. They launched a console without any exclusives, so what have they been doing for the last 4 years?
I'm sure Phil and his team are focused on gaming. They're just not very good at it ..
@angelic: idk, you tell us. you're waving the pom poms.
So are we gonna have the same dumb argument over and over and over again? So now games should take a year or 2 to make? Is that how it works to you? @Crazy same argument do AAA games take a year to make now? 1 year and MS should have s flood of AAA's. You and obvious need to go outside more and experience reality for once in your life. .
Heard this before, hoping this time with all the new acquired studios, they will hit a couple of homeruns and be more consistent with new IP's.
Well to be fair they have sheer numbers now so some random swings got to hit right? Even if its low percentage chance the number of studios will make a hit eventually
Very focused on gaming yet have zero games to show for it
Really don't understand how at year 8 into 9 from the last gen they don't have any. Its always oh Phil is just being transfered or its a hand over..... really that long? How did Nintendo with half the studios made more games in 4 years than Xbox i 8 years?!
Yeah after scalping many third party studios, you should be!
"Any man who must say 'I am the King.' is no true king."
Not for your launch, unlike your previous launches where you had games that were exclusive and a reason to buy the system. Now you dont, another wait for 2 years excuse.