The Xbox Series X is an impressive juggernaut, but its release has killed the excitement, and concept, of new console generations.
Ouch!, catchy article title.
Yeah. They keep repeating these articles in hopes of getting a negative tone. It's a common tactic. Saw a lot of it last gen. You can usually tell by the no name sites, but this one from Forbes just dumb founds me
I just read the article... At least he admits the PS5 is also on the same boat. So it's really a ninth gen disappointment... I think the Pro and One X kind of made this gen feel like a small step
No, the biggest the dissapointment is no Switch Pro still.
They wouldn't be the first to write an article about how underwhelmed they are with the Series X. 'Just wait' doesn't really cut it this time around either, because many seem to indicate it's not just because there are no games...again...but rather than the UI being almost identical makes it feel like firing up the old Xbox from last gen - as does the controller being the same. I haven't tried Series X as of yet, because there was such a strong consensus I didn't bother buying one, but the PS5 addresses all of those concerns and then some, with a stunning line up of games already scheduled for 2021. The only feather Xbox had in it's cap was 'the best place to play multiplatform games' and even that's been whipped away by the PS5 thus far. Even Gamepass is already on the last gen machine and can play all new gen MS games for the next 2 years. It's just not a compelling purchase, in my opinion.
This console has no asset
"Meanwhile, Sony will release the likes of Horizon Forbidden West, God of War 2, and Gran Turismo 7 during 2021: all killer apps in their own right, and three more reasons I’ll be getting a PS5 when stock finally returns to stores." "But without any real initial spark, and not much shining on the horizon, it’s not looking too exciting for the latest Xbox; just disappointing. After years of dominance in my own gaming life, one thing’s possible: the Series X may not be my number one come this time in 2021 " So this guy is primarily a Xbox gamer, but sounds like he is extremely underwhelmed and disappointed by the series X due to no next gen games and actually can't wait to get his hands on the ps5 whenever it's available.... Ouch! Not looking good for the Xbox camp....
It's Forbes , same old garbage scenario, like gamespot on giving a bad review saying our score is not the lowest like somehow they want to distence themselves from giant bombs lower review scores but it just didn't work.
@GamerRN It's funny that you didn't agree with the article until you thought that the PS5 was being crapped on. That pretty much shows that for xbox fans, if the xbox isn't winning, then no one is...except nintendo.
Forbes web presence is little more than a glorified blogging platform these days. Their standards for who writes these pieces are almost non-existent. It has almost no connection to the business magazine that built the name recognition.
Forbes is right this time.
The main reason why Xbox gets such negative press, is simply because it's an American company. You have the self hating American left wing gaming press, along with the rest of the world, who just want to bring down all things American. You see this with the motor vehicle industry also, as well as the alcohol industry.
While the Xbox Series is definitely lacking in the exclusive department, I have to disagree with the notion that it was a failure as a new gen launch. Forbes is a joke.
You think the ps4 pro makes the PS5 feel like a small step??? You're an idiot. I have had a ps4 pro for 3 years, and got a PS5 a few days after launch, and it's a huge upgrade in every way, 60 fps performance modes run a lot better but also look better than ps4 pro. Optional fidelity modes with ray tracing and fast ssd load times in all modes are big upgrades. The pro was a miniscule upgrade over the base ps4. Same slow Hard drive, same amount of ram, a slightly overclocked cpu. The only thing decent was a gpu upgrade.
@ GamerRN "At least he admits the PS5 is also on the same boat. So it's really a ninth gen disappointment." HAHAHAHA he admits nothing because HE DOESN'T OWN A PS5. He just assumed PS5 were feeling the same. NEWS FLASH... we aren't.
@gamerRN, deflection. PS5 is not in the same boat as the new xbone, its not even in the same zip code fgs. Tbh Forbes are usually pro xbox, so the new xbone must be really disappointing lol.
It really is a lazy low effort console from Microsoft
The console effort isn't lazy, but the software situation is a train wreck. In addition, can you image what it's like at an MS dev studio right now? They must be under extreme pressure to ship anything out the door.
The mid-gen upgrade is what makes it seem lazy
today i had an opportunity to buy XSX at MS store online and I was on last step before clicking place order but i couldn't bring myself to invest $545(with taxes) to play older games. I feel the same way about ps5 but those are so hard to buy. I just feel like both of these consoles will be a much better buy come holiday 2021. By than with consumer feedback both consoles will be a lot better via updates and there will be more next gen titles as an investment XSX costs $545 and sells for around $800(easily available on FC marketplace) as an invest PS5's are a much better but if you can find one because you can easily get a grand. My friend randomly got a ps5 at WM he said customer service made announcement saying we have few ps5/XSX in stocks if anyone interested come to CS. By the time he got there he had 2 in in front of him and if I understand correctly right in that line offers of $800 were made to those lucky(8-9) who got the ps5 it looks like atleast early on ps5's are a must buy and sony has built a nice next gen system. They didn't go for the RAW power instead going more custom route knowing they potentially have 115-120 million ps43 owners to appeal to. This is why ms losing last gen so badly did xbox brands no favor as it's reputation is in the gutter right now and it has to claw it's way back up while sony/ps5 got a running start. Publishers will support market leader regardless of the minor difference of power which so far has proven to be less than even originally anticipated
I had a 3080 in my checkout on launch day and didnt want to pay the extra cost of neweggs stupid shipping and taxes and the after market costs cards that were 745 dollars wish i had bought it now because i cant find one anywhere near 699.
Im pretty sure almost everyone lucky enough to get one doesn't feel that way. Say what you will about their launch exclusives, the Series X is an impressive piece of hardware. Now personally, do I want a PS5 more than a Series X? Yes. But I'm still excited to experience what Microsoft's console has to offer, eventually.
While I do agree in a sense, the Stadia should definitely be at the top of the list
I'm not surprised
Lack of real next gen titles is a disappointment but does that qualify as the biggest disappointment. The system does so many things right/better where the previous iterations did not. That has to count for something. The two games I am personally looking forward to playing next year will be God of War and Halo. Both may very well be cross gen but that isnt going to stop me from enjoying them the best they can be on their respected 9th gen hardware.
OUCH! Don Mattrick would be proud with a big smile on his face "Senior contributor Matt Gardener acknowledges that, while the console possesses impressive technical feats such as fast loading times, frame rates, and dynamic lighting etc, it mainly “feels like a better Xbox One X" Don't forget no launch exclusives. They should have delayed the Series X IMO just like they did Halo Infinite even though it's been in development for over 5 years now
😂😂😂 The Dom Nattrick comment was funny, but the Series X is not the biggest disappointment.
What's your reasoning for delaying the Series X? It's not like you can even find one on the shelves with the way they're being bought and in such high demand. Cyberpunk and other titles are going to drive sales enough. Just in time for the HI release of 4Q 2021 to help spike sales again. It's actually a good tactic to for give the XSX a year. To help build a user base and fix the console manufacturering production for its release.
Naughty dog is 2020s biggest disappointment for me. I love the new Xbox hardware so I’d say 343 industries would be the big disappointment not delivering.
Keep the hate alive bro. Stay strong throughout all those GOTY awards. 👍
Lol someone is upset about Joel’s death still naughty dog did great for part 2 and either way if Joel didn’t die in the second one he would’ve died in the 3rd
easy guys, i said my biggest disappointment. these things are so subjective, i only care about the game awards reveals not who select gaming media choose. If you loved the game cool, i wish i was in your shoes. I was pretty disappointed greatly by the halo reveal, but just wasn't on the same level of awful as TLOU2.
Can't wait for the game awards.
@painfultruth what are you on about? nintendo wiping the floor with goty?? 2019: SEKIRO: SHADOWS DIE TWICe not exclusive 2018: god of war Ps exclusive 2017: zelda BOW ninetendo exlusive 2016: overwacth not exclusive 2015: witcher 3 not an exclusive 2014: dragon age inquisition not a exclusives in terms, you see nobody dominating anything here. if you look purely at exclusives you will see that PlayStation had the most nominations by far and the most awards by far(just not game of the year) so what mostly is being said is that PlayStation exclusives have been fairly dominating their presence at the game awards.
Console fanboys, damn some of this stuff you post is worse than the crazy trump posts about the election being stolen its cult think. If you console fanboys attacked being made to pay for online play sony and microsoft would have stop charging by now.
You do realize that of the two games you're looking forward too you only need one next-gen system to play it on, right? Have pointed it out too many times: as much as MS makes a big a deal out of hardware, they give no actual value to it. They've proven it time and time again be it Alan Wake or Kentic much less now.
Coming from xone which has been pretty dry on any memorable exclusives for quite a good while and the next gen being more of the same for the foreseeable future, I would say yes. The fact that many people (including yourself) expected better performance on 3rd parties games, also a huge disappoinment. To me that's 500 that could easily be spent better. And I would advise to not be too hopeful for Halo. The troubled development doesn't inspire much confidence.
The Xbox Series X needed to make a great 1st impression and I think they dropped the ball, where the PS5 nailed it
One of the best things I have seen being said about the xbox series x is that it feels more like a gpu/cpu upgrade for a pc rather than a brand new console. I gotta agree, it feels like xbox one x part 2. Nothing wrong with that, the upgrade is welcome for all the new games, as well as enhancing the old ones. But it only makes sense if you have made the full upgrade with a new tv to go with it. It doesn't make sense for someone gaming at 1080p to upgrade yet.
Yes, you said it for yourself.. Unless you buy a console for other purpose than play games?
How is God of War MultiPlatform? Is it going to be on another console??
Darth is talking about cross-gen. People are assuming this because Horizon: Forbidden West is going to be cross-gen, but nothing has been said if this is true or not. Clearly we have seen that Sony isn't doing this for all of their first party games like R&C, Destruction All Stars, Demons Souls, Returnal, and GT7. This could be true, but we have no idea yet.
wow, I mean I'd say this is a stretch.
How, when we're only talking about two systems?
the biggest gaming disappointment of 2020? Like nothing else in 2020 related to gaming is worse than a new console?
@Neonridr: An entire gaming platform. A console that has given no reason to be bought aside from, "Play all the games you have before, only a little bit better performing. Maybe." How does one bad game compare to that especially when on the other side there's a remake of a ten year game that notably improves on the original, a pack in title that shows the system's potential, and a controller that's actively making Xbox owners who try the PS5 realize that for all the talk, MS's only doing slight improvements? How, when the Series is showing performance cracks and lack of potential in its launch window, is it not a disappointment?
It an extremely boring launch. It hasn't lived up to expectations. Biggest disappointment? I wasn't going to buy one anyway so hard for me to say. But....this is another bullshit Forbes article so easily dismissible.
What expectations where there aside from BC?
I mean, when you go a few months back on N4G and read the comments.... back today with all the excuses on how, why there isnt a huge gap in performance. How a lot of people went quiet from previous continuous bragging. There is an obvious denial of disappointment from some people previous expectation. That started with xbox 1st party presentation in July and went downhill since.
@Godmars290 "What expectations where there aside from BC?" As OB1Biker stated, XSX was supposed to clearly outperform PS5. The power of XSX was touted not just by n4g Xbox fans, but Aaron Greenberg and Jason Ronald could not stop yapping about it every chance they got. We had article after article submitted from news.xbox.com repeating the boasts while throwing shade at PS5's "boost mode" and variable frequencies in favor of XSX's supposedly superior "sustainable performance". So expectations were huge but XSX has not delivered. Maybe it will eventually....I don't know, but at launch, it failed.
@RazzerRedux: Given that MS never seemingly planned to offer example of the Series X being able to outperform the PS5, aside from old, prior console titles which they've apparently failed there, *HOW* could there have been any expectations? Just sounds like the Xbox camp, from fan boys to MS themselves, are just willfully delusional. And I'm either sorry I have to say or sick of not saying it enough, but that's pretty much been the case with MS since the 360. A case of "fake it till you make it" that just hasn't worked yet continues. A mindset that includes underselling the competition that's ruining the industry.
Just Imagine Nintendo releasing a platform without exclusives? I am literally saying at launch not the case of dismissed Wii U or Vita, no at launch. PS5 has been really saved by Spidey, Astro and Demon Souls which are magnificent and each are really special. Xbox Pass is very good service actually it is one of best digital services ever. BUT nooot enough. Switch is great example it really bad console (hybird) and it would be total inferior platform if it not Zelda and Mario's games and Pokemon are filling up the library. Actually Switch had sold better than Xbox one in every term and timeline because of proper exclusives.
"It just feels like a better Xbox One X" "just weeks after dropping half a grand on a Series X, I can’t shake the feeling that this console purchase was one of inevitability, not excitement–or even necessity" "without any real initial spark, and not much shining on the horizon, it’s not looking too exciting for the latest Xbox; just disappointing" "Quick Resume, which allows for the suspension of up to three games, is currently more of a hindrance than a help" "its battery cover clips have been unnecessarily adjusted inwards–a design change that renders all previous play-and-charge kits unusable. But hey, you can buy the all-new Xbox Rechargeable Battery for the princely sum of $25" "the new controller has a obnoxiously loud D-pad"
"its battery cover clips have been unnecessarily adjusted inwards–a design change that renders all previous play-and-charge kits unusable. But hey, you can buy the all-new Xbox Rechargeable Battery for the princely sum of $25" I don’t understand this? I use my old play and charge batteries on my series x controller just fine - just need a usbC cable. I use the one that came with the ps5 🤷🏼♂️ What do they mean?
Some will work, most won't. If your charger is a smaller size it will still work, but most don't.
@Zeeb I felt the same way until my PS4 controllers started dying after 3 hours. Being able to swap rechargeables is a better system long term.
Battery charge kit is definitely not true. I popped my rechargeable pack right out of my Xbox One controller into the Series X controller, and it works and charges just fine with any USB C cable.
MS made a dumb mistake by releasing some titles to their mid-gen upgrade. Sony didn't do that. However the jump from the PS4 Pro and PS5 slightly better, but pretty much the same. Sadly, mid-gen upgrades may be something we're going to have to get used to.
""its battery cover clips have been unnecessarily adjusted inwards–a design change that renders all previous play-and-charge kits unusable." Different USB port so..... unless you wanted to chop the end of your xbox one play and charge kit and put a new USB-C connector on. And you do not need the new battery, just the cable. https://www.geekstore.com/p... £9.99 all in.
Imo folks should have just held on to their XBO-X including the S for the time being & waited a year or two until MS starts finally releasing some next-gen first-party games.
Nope. Gamepass means whether you buy a New Series X or S, or have an older Xbox one, you get tons to play for cheap. You should see all the people on reddit who are overjoyed and love their consoles. And the fact that all they need to have a great time and get new games day one for their console is Gamepass, well, is way more enticing than paying full price for every single game. Ps5 for exclusives. Xbox for everything else. Cuz you never know when a game might end up on Gamepass and save you even more hard earned cash.
Nope. XB folks should have held on to their money & waited.
I mean, gamepass works just fine on the Xbox one. So that's not really a compelling reason to upgrade.
@ Elda Oh yeah totally. You'd probably love to see people just not support Xbox. If it's worth it to them, that's all that matters. And tons of people are very happy with their purchases. More than seem to be singing the blues, that's for sure.
Both new consoles are worth it for the improved performance alone. Most games are running at 2x framerate on next gen. I mean, if you're an Xbox user, you're gonna be playing the same games either way, right? So, if you have the money, why play on the inferior hardware for two years when there's a significantly better experience available? PC gamers spend more money upgrading our rigs for smaller gains than that.
Or just buy a PC to play XBOX and PC games
To address the article, no, I do not feel the same way about my PS5. I have Demon's Souls, Astros, and Miles Morales to play, plus the controller is new, the UI is new, and the system performs much better than I expected on both BC and multiplats. I feel like my PS5 is the best new console I've ever bought because of Demon's Souls, which IMHO is one of the best launch titles of all time. I also feel like Sony underpromised and overdelivered, because they really did on Backwards Compatibility. Honestly, the way they played it, I expected it to suck. Instead, it is incredible. The controller is pure innovation and a complete change of how I interact with the device. The media remote also has been a gigantic win, imho. No, as a PS5 owner, I don't feel the same way AT ALL. Also, for me Demon's Souls gave that magic feeling you are missing, because of the unbelievable jump in graphics that game provides.