Gamerheadquarters; "The Seagate Storage Expansion Card Xbox Series X/S is a perfect option for the next generation consoles, providing a good amount of space and the performance you would expect."
A good value? It’s $219 for a 2.5GB/s for Series X/S. A 7GB/s NVMe cost $229 for the PS5.
It's been shown a million times that a similar NVMe with an external enclosure costs either the same or more. The NVMes you're talking about for PS5 aren't even certified or supported on PS5. For all we know, the officially supported drives could, and likely will, charge a premium.
Does it matter? I’m comparing what you get for the price. And I’m sure they will be supported down the line.
"It's been shown a million times that a similar NVMe with an external enclosure costs either the same or more." With an external enclosure? Who cares about an external enclosure? And why are you trying to account for something that other systems don't need....just because XSX needs it? And what are you talking about with this "shown a million times" nonsense? I've shown plenty of NVMe drives that costs significantly less than this at the same speed. Remember, XSX speed is handicapped by being x2 rather than x4. This drive has PCIe 3.0 speed. That is a fact. As far as PS5, non-proprietary SSD will drop in price far quicker than proprietary. Simply a fact.
What option do we have now for PS5 for additional storage...
2015 SSD tech out of a surface pro btw. $219 damn that plastic enclosure is expensive... what does it do?
@RazzerRedux - We still have to wait for Sony to A) allow for expandable drives and B) allow for generic drives to work. This is the same company that ripped us all off with memory pricing for the Vita don't forget. At this point we don't even know if the Samsung 980 Pro, the fastest on the market, would even work in a PS5 yet. We will have to wait for some point in the future.
@PorkChop No it hasn't. You can buy comparable 1TB NVMe's for $100 right now, and an enclosure is $30 for a pretty high-speed Type-C or USB 3.1. For the same price as this Xbox branded Expansion card you can get 2x the storage and an enclosure. A quick serach and I found plenty of better deals. https://www.bhphotovideo.co... https://www.bhphotovideo.co... https://www.newegg.com/xpg-... https://www.newegg.com/xpg-... https://www.bestbuy.com/sit... Microsoft is charging an extreme premium for this drive in an attempt to recoup potential losses on hardware. This drive should be at least $50 cheaper for it to even be considered a decent deal.
"@RazzerRedux - We still have to wait for Sony to A) allow for expandable drives and B) allow for generic drives to work. This is the same company that ripped us all off with memory pricing for the Vita don't forget." Yeah.....we are waiting. And? It is what it is. The tech hasn't caught up with PS5 yet. And yeah, both Microsoft and Sony have a history of "ripping us all off" with storage. Let's not pretend Microsoft didn't put a standard hard drive into a proprietary enclosure with Xbox 360 and double the price. Vita's storage was proprietary as well. Has that pattern sunk in yet? Proprietary costs more than standard. So yeah....I'm happy to wait on standard SSD drives for PS5 rather than pay exorbitant prices for an inferior proprietary storage such as what Microsoft is ripping off their customers with XSX as ABizzel1 clearly points out.
@Razzer Don't waste your time arguing with these fanboys. They'd rather die than be told the truth. I literally listed several examples of NMVe that have better data speeds than the Series X that cost half the price of the overpriced 1TB drive Xbox is trying to sell them and they disagree and act like it's a good deal. That's what's wrong with most of these console fanboys. Just completely clueless about anything outside of what their overlord tells them. Most of them have never even installed an SSD in anything their entire life, couldn't even tell you what it's attached to and what cable is used to connect a SATA SSD and what's not used for an NVMe, but on here trying to argue about one. The funny thing is both the Series X and S use a standard micro NVMe on the motherboard, so Microsoft created a port, put the NVMe they already use inside their console in an enclosure, and busted their heads for $220. Like do you people think the SSD in the Xbox Series consoles was nearly half of the total cost of the system alone. No, they're charging you a ridiculous premium because you can't buy them from anyone else.
For the same price you can buy at least 2.5 x faster NVMe SSD for PC ( soon for PS5 ) than for XSX. Btw. PS5 can support all 5 sizes 2230, 2242, 2260, 2280, 22110 in expansion slot. Surely 2280 ( which is 980 Pro for now ) SSDs in near future with its fast speed will be supported by PS5. Already Rocket Sabrent 1TB 7GB/s costs 199$ ( https://www.tweaktown.com/n... ) I think smaller size SSD will be just ( since they are slower ones ) for saving PS5 games and then transfer it in main system SSD. Of course unless it's 2280 SSD with enough speed which can be used to run PS5 games directly. Anyway, Sabrent Rocket 1TB 7GB/s SSD is 199$, but proprietary XSX SSD 1TB with 2.5 GB/s is 220$. Which is better?
"As far as PS5, non-proprietary SSD will drop in price far quicker than proprietary. Simply a fact." Sony has to certify any custom ssds that will plug into their expansion slots, that don't work right now. They still need to be thin enough to fit and compatible with Songs I/O controller. Not accurate to say they aren't proprietary.
I would say there's a clear difference between having to meet a certain standard and proprietary. To my knowledge, Switch microSD cards need to be certain speed, which would be meeting a certain standard. Whereas PS vita memory cards are proprietary. The SSDs supported by the PS5 and microSD cards have uses beyond video games alone. With the vita and the XSX expansion cards, those have no practical use beyond their own systems.
It actually is accurate to say they are not proprietary. Cerny even said if a card with fewer priority levels is inserted, it will still work. These will be standard cards, with Sony's minimum performance requirements.
$219 is a good price for that ssd and there aren't any expansion drives available for PS5 so I'm not sure how you're saying they're $229.
“$219 is a good price for that ssd and there aren't any expansion drives available for PS5 so I'm not sure how you're saying they're $229.” I’m sure the WD SN850 1TB 7GB/s NVMe will be certified by Sony rather soon. It’s $229. “Western Digital Reveals First PS5 Compatible SSD“ https://www.pushsquare.com/...
First there is no drive available to plug into an PS5 so comparing it is useless. You are comparing hypothetical to reality. Second, the raw performance of the drive does not seem to matter. In load tests where they do apples-to-apples comparisons (still display the title screens on PS5) there is next to no difference in performance between the machines. So, your price for performance would be the same. It doesn't matter if the had an 80 GB/s drive. If it doesn't out perform XSX then it is worth the same to the gamer.
Oh give me a break you don't really believe any of that nonsense you just typed do you? 😂
@SierraGuy What is nonsense? There are no NVMe cards that you can use on PS5 yet. So what price are they going to be? We just don't know. While you can speculate based on market prices for like cards, we still don't know which ones will actually work in PS5 and therefore they could be more expensive. Any guess right now is pure speculation. As for the price/performance comparison. There are many videos comparing the XSX and PS5 load times. Please, show me a single one where they both load all the title screens and PS5 is substantially faster? It just does not exist.
"As for the price/performance comparison. There are many videos comparing the XSX and PS5 load times. Please, show me a single one where they both load all the title screens and PS5 is substantially faster? It just does not exist." sure it does https://youtu.be/fzbL7opmXp...
@RazzerRedux Here they compared the exact same Watch Dogs loads: https://www.resetera.com/th... from the 1:35 - 2:00 part of the video and there was only a 3 second difference with the exact same Watch Dogs content shown. Yours is a comparison of game save load time. And you can see in the video that they are not showing the same game save (Same place in game but different character stuff). So, you really don't know for sure if it is an apples-to-apples comparison of load time as it seems to imply there is more in the XB game save then the PS5 one.
Come on neo..the watch dogs clip I saw showed the PS5 load a scene at a staggering 8 sec faster by DF.
Why are you bringing the PS5 into the discussion? This is a review of a storage option for the Xbox Series consoles. Not every post is a comparison between PS5 and Xbox. No need to be so insecure about your console allegiance. Save it for a call of duty comparison.
@RGDJR I’m just using PS5 as an example because the author claims a $219 2.5GB/s SSD is a good value when it’s clearly not. A SSD from WD that’s likely to get approved for PS5 is $229 and significantly faster. It’s not a good deal. Prove me wrong.
Ps5 doesnt even have expanded storage so all your doing is speculating lol
As someone with one of these, I can say It is certainly a good value, 1. The speed is fast, I dont notice any difference between internal and external on either the series s or series x. 2. The form factor is extremely convenient. Its extremely easy to hotswap between consoles. 3. The price surplus is only slightly above what a non proprietary drive would cost. 4. We actually have a working option, not just a promise. Im still waiting on my ps5 nvme option. Its hard to compare pricing when one has no options.
"3. The price surplus is only slightly above what a non proprietary drive would cost." False statement. As ABizzel1 documented above: https://www.bhphotovideo.co... https://www.bhphotovideo.co... https://www.newegg.com/xpg-... https://www.newegg.com/xpg-... https://www.bestbuy.com/sit...
Those drives are irrelevant as they are not nvme gen 4 drives. Talk about not comparing apples to apples. At least the ones that were listed as being well under that price.
@TheDibbler Wrong. They are quite relevant. Those drives match XSX SSD speeds. XSX SSD is Gen 4 but only with two lanes: x2. Thus, the reduced speed. So they are more relevant than comparing prices of Gen 4 SSD with four lanes. If you want to find and compare prices for a Gen 4 x2 SSD like what XSX provide then please do. Good luck.
I bought one day one! Even with 2tb internal, and 2tb external SSD, I'm still right for discs with about 100 games installed... If we are carrying over old games, we need far more storage made available. I bought 2 games on PS5, Miles Morales DLC and Demon Souls, and with my old games my HD is full. About 8 or 9 games total
@GamerRN Bullshit. PS5 can hold 13 50 gig games. And why don't you use external USB for your "old games". You are just being stupid.
1 the speed should be fast is made for the console 2 the form factor should be convenient is made for the console 3 the price surplus is well above other comparable drives, it doesn't take much to confirm that and if you believe otherwise then Microsoft did their job in making you believe that the price is competitive with comparable drives 4 the article is not about ps5, so it seems like you're placing value on this because they're is no current solution for ps5 storage. This to me just didn't add to the argument that's its better value as a storage option but an argument for the Xbox itself as it has a proprietary storage option.
Its very expensive, but not even this some can accept. Just crazy. If the series x had somekind of high speed custom ssd...
good value? lol cash grab more likely.
Massive cash grab almost nintendo level.
But not quite Sony level.
You can use an external SSD for the Series X though, if you wish. Even though just for storage, you can move large games to be playable within minutes. Searching for similar gen 4, NVMe cards, they're in a similar price range for internal drives. They're not cheap on PC, and aren't going to be cheap for XSX or PS5 either.
At least you're 50% right, here's a tip - it ain't good value.
My local Best Buy was sold out of them. I'm not saying nationwide or online but locally people have been picking them up.
I wouldn’t call it a value for that price . It’s definitely on the more expensive side compared to drives of similar specs and price .
Bad value. Samsung 980 Pro 1TB is around $200 and its 7.0GB/s not 2.4GB/s. Almost 3x the speed, its probably fast enough for the PS5.
That is a very fast drive, but to be fair, the Series expansion is enclosed, custom hardware, hot swappable, and much smaller in size.
In my opinion these cards are good for if you want to swap drives quick. Other than the form factor hinders it's usage for other purposes. For example, being able to use it for storage on a PC once it's usefulness has been outlived on the Xbox. Good for xbox bad for reuse outside that console ecosystem
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