@foxtrot....."It's one of the greatest games in the history of mankind" 😁..... I'll quote what I said before again---- "the facts are undeniable there isn't a game in History with the level of attention to detail, butter smooth transitional animations in character movement and overall graphical fidelity that comes close to TLOU part 2... The narrative is subjective and divisive, but what many don't understand is that this is EXACTLY what the writers intended. So for people like you who spew Hatred because you dislike and disagree with one aspect of the game's narrative and completely ignore everything else it does at a Pristine level, I'm afraid is shallow minded." Unfortunately for you I'm afraid those awards are gonna keep coming... 😁
“It's one of the greatest games in the history of mankind"
Dude saying that kind of stuff sounds like you’re in a cult, it’s over the top either way.
You’re just one of these people who try and defend the below average story by saying “that’s what they intended all along” and “it’s supposed to make you feel like that”. Next you’ll be telling us how “our IQ’s are not high enough to understand the rich complexity of an masterfully told deep story”...
You want to praise the graphics, of course
Visuals? Definitely
Audio & Soundtrack? Damn right
However Story, Narrative, Studio, GOTY...I don’t think so, other games deserve them better.
@foxtrot ...... "Next you’ll be telling us how “our IQ’s are not high enough to understand the rich complexity of an masterfully told deep story”... You said it not me 😁... you couldn't have state it better, this quote perfectly outlined the conundrum you personally are faced with this game... man it's been MONTHS you've been spewing hate toward TLOU 2, without adequately stating exactly WHY you hate the narrative so much.. I'll make it easy for you, please name a game that is eligible within this years GOTY contenders that you think is more deserving...
@tripleAAA, so ur telling me that they wrote a story that they knew a decent portion of the playerbase wouldnt like, since it was divisive on purpose? you talk about them like they are some godlike entity beyond the comprehension of mere mortals and ND tasked you as a disciple to spread the word of their greatness.
Now the ultimate question for you: would you let yourself be crucified for them?
"without adequately stating exactly WHY you hate the narrative so much.."
ARE YOU JOKING ME?
I've said it TONS of time at release, I could give you a whole little essay breaking down why I didn't like it, hell I'm pretty sure I did on here yet all I get in response is people ignoring what I've said and dumbing it down to "bu bu but you're just saying that because Joel died" while everything else in the comment is thrown away. Either that or something about being sexist, hating strong women or some other excuse.
I don't keep saying it on here because if I or anyone else did you'd get comments directed at me saying "You keep repeating yourself on everypost" and people like yourself would just gloss over it and would say I'm still "hating" on it for "no reason".
So really...what's the point
Since it would be pointless to ramble on for that long, he's some fun memes to get a few of the points across...
"so ur telling me that they wrote a story that they knew a decent portion of the playerbase wouldnt like, since it was divisive on purpose?"
Yes. There was a quote I heard earlier this year. I don't remember it exactly and I think it was in relation to the design of something, but it was something like they would rather people love it or hate it rather than be bored or not care. At least they felt something.
That's classical foxtrot. Dude is full of passive aggressiveness with his black-and-white opinions. If you disagree with him your comment is a "joke". His maturity level never seize to amaze me.
TLOU2 is more than deserving to win GOTY. There is a lot going for it. Sure feel free to disagree but it should be pretty obvious why many won't. Your argument for "best storytelling" is "No". I disagree as I cannot think of any other game that did story telling so well. You do realize that "plot" is different than "storytelling", right? And if one thinks that TLOU2 has an amazing storytelling then it's pretty hard NOT to give GOTY to this game: best visuals, best audio, best(or among best) storytelling --> that kinda leads into GOTY. And if your game is the ultimate game of the year then the "Studio of the year" is a no-brainer as well.
If you played the game you would know those memes you posted are silly.
*spoiler alert*
First meme. I’ll admit it was awkward watching that scene. Mainly because as the player controlling Abby its natural to try and relate to the character. But being a straight male I could not relate to that scene (as Abby). However, I am aware that the awkwardness derives from my own preferences and am able to detach myself from the character. Could they have omitted the scene? Sure. Could the same context been conveyed with a kiss instead? Sure. But I’m not going to let an “unnecessary” sex scene be the be all end all for judging a game. Do you think Witcher 3 is a bad game because of an “unnecessary” sex scene?
Second meme. Comparing the cautious nature of a lone 14 year old girl, that’s actively being targeted, in the company of a grown man she doesn’t know is fundamentally different than two grown men being friendly towards a girl they just saved. Ellie’s relationship with Joel has changed him. He probably seen a helpless girl (in his eyes) and introduced himself to show he is not a threat.
Third meme. Ellie wasn’t upset at Joel for saving her and keeping it from her. She made it abundantly clear she was upset because he made the choice for her. She also felt curing the infection would have given her life meaning, something he took away (remember Ellie was a 14 year old girl that just lost her best friend to the infection). She ultimately forgave him but wasn’t able to express that to him. And Ellie did not forgive Abby. The reason she didn’t kill Abby (and vice versa) was for her own sake and sanity. It was the closure she needed to be at peace with herself and forgive herself for how she treated Joel, as well as move on with her life (which is what Joel and Dina wanted). People who haven’t played the game or don’t understand the game think it’s a tale of revenge, but it’s more a tale of closure and redemption for both characters.
...well deserved indeed. Congrats naughty dog for making this game, really a gem this generation. Now waiting game for part 3 to be released on ps5. I hope soon, maybe 2-3 years please?
My favorite game this entire gen. Never has any other entertainment medium made so emotionally invested in it's world and characters. It still makes me emotional thinking about it. Naughty Dog with U4, U Lost legacy and TLoU2 are untouchable. Best devs in the industry.
24 likes and 11 dislikes on this comment? Spam bots incoming from angry TheQuartering fans. It's happened a few times this week alone. They can't stand the fact that most people liked TLOU2.
As I predicted when you had 24 likes and 11 dislikes, it wasn't going to be long before someone got offended by the majority being positive about TLOU2 and used spam bots. Complete losers.
With the surge of likes that Foxtrot got out of nowhere ....
You moan non stop about this game, time to get over it m8 it's game of the year and there nothing you can do about it.
Maybe my comments were a little harsh and I apologise, but man your a moaner.
Go do something you like, it's obviously not gaming. And I'm not trying to be big and tough I am BIG and Tough. And it's not a bottle it's a large can of whoopass, come get some 😘
TheQuartering fans: "Damn. It's a shame we didn't hear about those awards. We would have made thousands of accounts like we did on Metacritic because we have nothing better to do with our lives."
Yeah that is the funny thing about it It was gamers who vote it as game of the year ... which show how pathetic the trolls are who think they represent the gamers
This studio made Transistor which is also a very good game. Ill be grabbing this as soon as it gets released on console. The moment I saw footage of this I knew it was by the same studio without looking because of the similarities
The Last of Us 2 is going to take away a lot of potential awards Ghost would have won any other year. Ghost is a runner-up in just about every category IMO.
I actual tried to play Ghost of Tsushima for a little bit while playing TLOU2 and just couldn't. TLOU2 just ruined me for the level of detail in absolutely everything in the game and when I saw my characters foot in Ghost of Tsushima step through a body on the floor or some stairs I was like.. nope. Also i didn't feel the weight of attacks like I felt when I swung a weapon in TLOU2. I only finished TLOU2 the other week so I really hope I can get into Ghost of Tsushima since it just looks like a game that's right up my alley.
You’re telling me they couldn’t have given Best PlayStation Game to Miles Morales, Ghost of Tsushima or FFVII
Then Suckerpunch / Supergiant loosing Best Studio to NaughtDog after the horrible crunch and working conditions staff went through that resulted in people getting sick or leaving. They lost a fair few people.
No, because TLoU2 deserves it more than any other game. Even if you hate the story you're still left with amazing animations, sound, graphics and gameplay.
All studios in the industry experience crunch. Infact almost all industries have to put in crunch to meet deadlines. Do you even work?
Dude, you're so petty when it comes to TLOU2. And when it comes to working conditions, you don't exactly seem to care about all the death threats that Naughty Dog staff received from lunatics going after the game and their followers. I'd say all that nonsense made them feel pretty sick.
Not really. Doom Eternal, FFVII, Ghosts of Tsushima, Hades, even Animal Crossing or Crash Bandicoot 4 for example got better fan. AND critic responses
“Even if you hate the story you're still left with amazing animations, sound, graphics and gameplay”
DUDE. Come on man, it’s a story driven game where the narrative is the main attraction like most of ND games over the years and especially after how amazing the first game was story wise. If it’s not up to scratch then I’m sorry but even if I praise the other things which I can it doesn’t mean I can skip over the big main attraction which has failed. It doesn’t work like that.
“All studios in the industry experience crunch”
Did you even read the report? Like seriously, it’s the worst one that’s been reported on this year, it’s disgusting what they did. If they did that at my job I’d be onto the union or I’d walk out, not worth my mental health.
@LucasRuinedChildhood
Death Threats I’m not okay with but here’s the thing, it’s the internet, EVERYONE from celebs, actors and the like get sick abuse off people all the time, it’s shit but it happens. However you just ignore it and get on with your life.
The issue here though is that it seems Neil has a habit of making it known, drawing attention to it, so he can deflect any criticism of the game by making it look like every person who dislikes the game is just like the trolls sending death threats. He brings it up, his white knights rally around him and go off defending the game calling anyone even those with legit criticisms who’s stating them in a fair mature manner, a troll just like those sending death threats. It’s very tactical.
@gold i disagree. Ghost of Tsushima is the most immersive open world. Graphics and animations are better at naughty dog but I easily enjoyed ghost far more
Well deserved!
Last of US II is the big winner of Golden Joystick and also Game of the year.
TLOU2 swept like it deserves. The ironic thing is that these were user voted. That loud minority of haters can go cry in the corner.
Hades won the critcs choice!!!! Well deserved.