Sony's Jim Ryan suggests the company is brainstorming 'interesting stuff' for PSNow and PS Plus that will get its own limelight.
Curious to see what they'll come up with
They do need to improve their offering because right now it's not even comparable to XGP.
@Imp0ssibl3 I would argue that it is very comparable. Excluding first party titles, they both have a good selection of (and often the exact same) video games to stream and download. PSnow actually has more games on offer and they include their own games on the service as well, just like gamepass. The only difference is the fact that xbox exclusive games made by xbox studios are released day one on gamepass whereas playstation waits months before putting their games on PSnow. So they are very comparable with only one difference. Again, other than the first party games the services are pretty much the same since they often offer the exact same 3rd party games to download and play.
I use both and the comparison is def more Equal then others attempt to spin. Thatgrammar broke it down great. If you use both services you learn quickly there isn't much difference. However the reality is PSNow is cheaper with more games and still people keep trying to say it's not comparable. It's in some ways better 60 versus 180? 1000 games vs 200? people really need to start breaking this down more.
The only thing Gamepass has that's better than PS Now is better marketing.
You are very susceptible to propaganda.
Well it has better games on it, I'd say that makes it comparable. There's no point offering first party games day 1 with it if there are no new ones to get
It's okay if you like GP given that it is the only thing even worth mentioning for xbox. But no need to lie bro.
It's just the way Microsoft market gamepass that gives them the advantage other than that they're very comparable
cloud storage. so the 360gig physical edition can actually store games? me unable to hook in a sd hd into the physical has made me skip this gen til a slim or some shit comes out. l can wait.
Hopefully the move to Azure will improve the streaming service. It is horrible
Oh, good. So the reason it always quits streaming isn't JUST because of my internet? That's refreshing to hear. Lol.
I run Google Fiber and it's been near flawless for me.
Yeah I have near 500mb connection and yet can't access streaming stuff unfortunately. But PS Now is for sure to be considered, when one can have access for ordering PS5.
Ok, but it isn't just about internet speed. My internet connection is very fast. Stadia works great. So does xCloud. PS Now is horrible. What that tells me is the data center is closer to you than it is to me. With the move to Azure, Sony is going to have access to a lot more data centers and hopefully it will improve for everyone.
I agree. Streaming in 720p only is for the birds.
It really does. And I'm not one to talk about downvotes and I'm not going to complain about them, but I'm genuinely curious here. You think the people downvoting just don't like the idea of Sony using Microsoft's cloud? Azure is clearly superior to whatever Sony is using at the moment. Why would anyone not want PS Now on a better cloud service? I don't care if it is Microsoft's or not. Why would I?
@RazzerRedux Because Microshaft have a long history of shafting. They will probably find a way to screw Sony somehow.
It doesn't matter to me if Sony uses Azure or not. All I would like for Sony to do is update their streaming capabilities to higher resolutions than 720p. In this day & age 1080p should be the lowest resolution on PS Now & 4k or close to 4k as the highest. If they did this I would probably use their service to revisit some classic PS2 & PS3 games.
This is my biggest issue. The ps2 and ps3 library is so just not good enough on psnow. So many great games are missing. If most ps2 games were available for download, PSNOW would be a bigger success imo.
Bro, you’re worried about 4K streaming when these services can’t barely get cloud streaming steady at 720p!? I’ve tried Stadia, GeForce Now, currently subscribe to PS Now, and GamePass to use for X Cloud. It’s so hit and miss with ALL. I can be right next to my Gateway and I have 5G with 1Gig internet. Sometimes they run Great, other times the resolution takes a huge hit or Framerate tanks In my honest opinion, X Cloud has not impressed me so far. Sometimes I have to re-boot it 3x just to hit a quality resolution that’s not all blur. PS Now on PC while not perfect, I have never ran into this issue at least where I can’t even start a game. That’s my situation anyway. I know an Ethernet cable fixes a lot of these problems, but I specifically like having the cloud services for the option to play on my laptop or Samsung Tablet. I would be ecstatic if these were running at 720P @ 60FPS with no connection issues over 5G WiFi
Unlocking ps now for the rest of the world would be nice.
All they need to do is combine them together. That way they will have stronger sub audience and a positive response.
We'll likely be looking at a $15/mo. subscription if that happens, or $100 - $120/yr. That's fine for those who want it, as long as they also keep the options for PS+ and PSNow separate at $60/yr each.
Hopefully they're REALLY focused on making more PS5s lol.
This - AND making me a PSVR2!
Without all those cables, if they do that is day 1 for me
@Freshnikes At best you're probably still going to have at least 1 Type-C cable to connect the headset to the console. While there are wireless VR headsets they have their hardware built into them, and as a result, they can't match PS5 or mid to high-end PC specs, so they attach to PCs currently with a single type-C cable. To go completely wireless we'll need a phenomenal streaming signal similar to how the Wii U streamed to the GamePad first instead of the TV, that way 1:1 motion still works flawlessly in the headset and with controllers to avoid latency and sickness. But a direct signal over Type-C is the much "safer" option as for as motion sickness goes, although tripping over the cable could be a hazard as well.
@abizzel See that will work give me 1 type c cable to plug in. I can even use the type c to charge it. Yea I’m in on that
Some are saying the PS5 incorporating the latest Bluetooth and Wi-Fi 6 may (in part) be to wirelessly communicate with the PSVR2. Personally, while I enjoy the freedom of wireless headsets like the Quest and Quest 2, I hate how weak they are. Personally, I'd like to have the option to play physical games that aren't too heavy on the processor (Beat Saber, Box VR, Oh Shape, Crisis VRigade, etc.) wirelessly and the less physical 'powerhouse' games (Blood & Truth, Half Life: Alyx, Saints & Sinners, Resident Evil 7, etc.) connected via a single cable to benefit fully from the PS5's power. Being able to tether if desired helps other headsets a great deal, so unless the wireless capabilities of the PS5 are even better than anticipated and somehow there are no losses, I'm willing to deal with one cable. Now give me those next gen controllers from the patents lol!
Stop being a Trhalo 🤣
PSnow should be included with the PS+.
Is it so hard to pay two bills?
And make it more expensive for everyone.
I disagree. I think you're looking at the issue the wrong way. Plus is supposed to enhance the experience. It should cost money. What you're NOT saying that you should be saying is that Online Play should be free. Plus was originally a fantastically implemented idea: some free* games going back to PSOne with offerings on their handhelds, guaranteed beta access, and discounts. That was great. Rolling in online play and removing the beta benefits were upsetting moves. Now, should PSNow be included with PS+? You kind of already get PS+ online play benefits with PSNow titles. Because of that, I think you could roll them together at a really good price. I'd say $70-$80—the cost of ONE ninth gen game.
would be cool if they allowed you to download the games to pc hard drive. I know a lot of people don't share my problem but it's a good way to work around people having slow internet.
@Imp0ssibl3 Eh you’re a stupid!
Epic Games Store is giving out better titles for free.
PS Now is virtually unused. They definitely need to improve there, considering how much Gamepass has taken off.
The difference is that GP is best thing going for xbox while thats not the case with PS. Also the fact that team Xbox spends more on PR and are desperate enough to let you sub for a dollar. Other than that Psnow is a better service with a bigger selection of high rated games.
No. We're talking about secondary, premium services offered by either company. All you are doing is throwing out shade in every biased way possible, and just talking off of the cuff. Microsoft has a powerful machine, just brought in many award winning developers and IPs, and has the most popular gaming service had right now. That's what they have going for them. Back to my original point you decided to respond to, then go on a tirade about. I say it's unused because, last time I did the numbers, their PS Now sub count accounts for 2% of total PS4's sold, despite being a service that includes PS4, PS3, VITA, and can be streamed. Those are poor numbers, and I account for one of those subscribers.
^ @TheRealTedCruz, how on Earth did you see a "tirade" in his response? He didn't even dispute the uptake as a portion of the install base, he merely pointed out that MS have essentially given the service away, which is a pretty simple (at least partial) explanation as to why so many are on board with it. This seems reasonable, doesn't it?
"No. We're talking about secondary, premium services offered by either company." Cool me too. "Microsoft has a powerful machine, just brought in many award winning developers and IPs, and has the most popular gaming service had right now. That's what they have going for them." Sony has a very powerful machine too and probably even more capable for $400. "Just brought in" Emphasis on the "just". As of now Xbox is negative 7 billion. And PS is already established no need to wait. Yes, when you put Psnow vs GP, it is very likely that GP has more subscribers and it would make sense. But Psnow is a better bargain and service. A tirade? Lol "I say it's unused because, last time I did the numbers, their PS Now sub count accounts for 2%" Irrelevant but Idk I'm not an insider.
60fps shareplay for legacy titles that only had local multiplayer would be nice. Platforms like Parsec and Steam Remote Play already do this.
I bet they come up with some sort of gamepass as well. Sony isn’t blind for the succes on gamepass on Xbox. They probably alter the formula somewhat to have something better than MS, but it will be the same at it’s core.
Psnow already exist. GP was a reaction to Psnow which existed for many years before.
Do you play new released exclusives on PSnow? No you don’t. So there is a difference. And as far as I know, GP is downloading games, PSnow is streaming?
Edit: seems PSnow is streaming but also downloading it seems.
If they add the ps2 & ps1 library mixed with ps4 I’m sure people would go bonkers and buy subscriptions
Focus on making more PS5's!
would be cool if we could play PS1 and PS2 games on Now, hint hint.
Why not add Iceborne to Monster Hunter World? It adds essential changes to the game. To only offer half of a 2 year old game is an insult.
Sony seemed more interested in promoting PlayStation Now’s potential going into PS4’s launch than the PS5’s
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