The budget version of the new Xbox has its place and could shine as a second console, but it's hard to recommend as your primary gaming platform.
Series S is great for casual gamers who want a budget console, the likes of consumers that have no intention to buy a 4k tv/monitor. Im not interested in it at all but I see the appeal for others.
So they aren't going to get a 4k tv in the next 7 years(plus however many years they have had their current set)? That's a long upgrade cycle to not get a new TV. I would imagine their current set must be really great to not develop some gray uniformity issues(dirty screen) by then, even if they just bought one at 1080p. Especially since 4k TVs can get so cheap during the holidays. Just to check, I'm looking at the cheapest 4k TVs right now on Walmart and they are VERY low cost for surprising screen sizes, to wait 7+ years on an upgrade from 1080p.
Not everyone has the luxury of buying a 4ktv without a second thought. In my opinion, I think that this will be aimed at family households or students. If you spend £450 on a console then you're likely going to have the budget to buy a good 4k tv.
I think in next 4-5 years the majority of people will have 4K TV. There aren't much cost difference between 1080p and 4K. Since last one year budget 4K TV's price decreased and nearly the cost of 1080p TV and they can do HDR too.
You can buy a 4k tv for $400 Canadian lol. I don't think it's much of a excuse anymore
I mean, I completely understand money being tight, and I may be going crazy, but I'm seeing some cheap 4k at 40+ inch TVs for like around 200 dollars online right now in the US, and I'm not even sure how on sale they are. I googled "cheapest 4k tvs" and looked at the ads.
Exactly right you are. Seems like a revenue ploy to get future upgrades to SX and double sales. I'm getting SX (in route to my house now) but am baffled as to how this is a relevant, more than a year or two, solution. 4k TV's are so cheap now.
You don't want just any 4k tv though. There are so many junky ones with high input lag, lack of VRR, low peak brightness, etc. If someone was going to get a new 4k tv, I would recommend the Sony X900H minimum which is $900-1000. These $200-400 4k tvs are going to give such a bad next gen experience!
Tvs last a long time, maybe they plan on upgrading in 4 years and will get a mid gen upgrade instead. Maybe they don’t have the money. Don’t forget those also who have 3dtvs and don’t want to get rid of them. It’s foolish to assume we know peoples situations and what works best for them. I might get one as a third Xbox.
@teflon: "You can buy a 4k tv for $400 Canadian lol." What magical retailer is selling something that isn't 43" or lower or a cheap POS brand (i.e. TCL, Vizio, RCA, HISENSE, etc...)? To get any benefits, it needs to be a bare minimum of 50", and I haven't come across any reputable brand at that size for $400.
I have a $600 37in 1080p Vizio from 2009 and other than color/resolution I see less uniformity issues than my $900 55in 4k Vizio from 2019. I also don't like the way local dimming looks at times in the 4k set. Personally if I ever buy another screen I will probably go for a smaller gaming monitor because I've noticed on a big screen being competitive in shooters like call of duty is more difficult for me vs my smaller 37in screen.
People: "Why get a cheap TV, with less features. Save up for a decent 4K TV." Same people: "Why not get the cheap console, with less features. No need to save up for the better console."
@JustTheFax And these "Series S" okay with not having 4K, more than likely own janky 1080p TVs that have all the problems and non of the benefits you listed as well. That being said with the 4K TV at least they have a resolution that's noticeably better than what they currently have, as well as improved image quality in most cases (as many of the TV are simply last years models), and many of them offer 120Hz modes in 1080p and sometimes 1440p which is more than their current TVs offer. If you want the best of everything you have no choice but to get an LG OLED as it's the only brand that offers 4K @ 120Hz, VRR, Freesync, and G-Sync across all 4 HDMI. Every other TV you're going to have to choose and loose features. TV's to buy (4K, 120Hz, VRR, possibly FreeSync (AMD GPUs)) 1. LG OLED (just about any of the 9 or X series, EX: C9 and CX) 2. Sony X900H, 65" has dropped to $950 making it possibly the best value 3. Samsung Q70 - Q90, technically 2nd best TVs, the higher the number the better the TV with the Q80T and Q90 being the best for gaming but they're expensive like the LG's and you only have 1 HDMI 2.1 port (meaning you can't have PS5 and Series X, as only one console will get the full benefit of your TV) 4. TCL 6Series (Model 635 only), 55" is $650 and it's the cheapest of the best 4K TV's, however, no specification on how many HDMI 2.1 ports, but allegedly each port supports most 2.1 features, with VRR confirmed and 120Hz panels confirmed. Most other TVs will simply not have [email protected], or have high input latency in comparison to these 4 brands (Vizio has the features, but input latency can vary greatly between models). However, the $200 - $500 TV are better and have more features than most of the 1080p TVs these people will have in their homes if they've been buying. @r2ob Exactly
If you are purchasing a 4k tv to play on the new ps5 or Xbox, avoid the cheap TVs or you will regret it a year or 2 down the line when you realize what you have done. You will not be able to enjoy the full next gen experience if your tv is 4k 30fps. it is recommended that you purchase a TV that supports HDMI 2.1. If you are shopping for a new 4k tv, this should be your number one litmus test. The PS5 and Xbox Series X both support 4k120fps and 8k. The Cheap tvs you see in Walmart on Amazon will not allow you to achieve this and you will be at a disadvantage when you play competitive games online as all serious players are going to play in the 120fps mode if it is supported by that game.
@ABizzel1 I'd LOVE to have an LG OLED screen but they are prone to burn in, and I use my tv as a pc monitor too, so unfortunately I have to count those out. I prefer the 49"/50" size screens, and it seems like Samsung gimped all those with less features. I'd totally get the Sony X900H if they had it in 50" size but smallest is 55". Looks like I will have to wait a bit longer until I find one that has everything I want. I am still on a Samsung KS8000 and it is hard to find screens with that level of peak brightness in HDR. HDR still seems hit or miss with me though. I reaaalllly want VRR though, that is a must on my next tv. Also, you are right...I forgot I was responding on a Series S article. haha Someone who gets a series S will most likely skimp on a tv as well. Although after watching the Modern Vintage Gamer review, I can see how this console has a spot in this gen for people on a budget that still want to play the newest games. I still wouldn't get it though. haha
Probably good for kids that stick to a few games like Fortnite and Madden, beyond that, I'm not really sure who this is for.
I think they should have given the reviews to somebody else besides Ryan.
Hear me out here. The Series S is the new "red ring of death". Once again, gamers around the world will have the harsh realization that they need to buy a new Xbox. Mostly joking (I make an effort to be fair and defend MS against stupid arguments like attacks on backwards compatibility) but the Series S is a bad deal and will age like fine milk. I'd hate to be the kid who asked for a Series X for Christmas and got a Series S because my parents didn't understand the difference. The idea of getting a gimped PS2 makes me shudder a bit. haha
It shouldn't even exist and will be holding games back
Black Friday is in a few weeks.... 4K adoption is going to be on the rise...
This thing is a rip off, you have around 300gb of space to work with, and if you want to upgrade the storage it will cost the equivalent of purchasing a Series X (factoring in the difference). Who would buy this?
It's not even great for them. The storage isn't enough unless you plan on buying an external to store games on and transfer back and forth, which make it more PC like and many casuals won't comprehend this. The price at $299 seems reasonable, but adding the extra external NVMe to the console and you could have bought the Series X, also console prices generally drop so in 3 - 4 years when there are more games out and Xbox is finally on a roll with AAA games then you should be able to get a Series X for around $299 during the holiday season. Looking at Xbox studios and the games they have in development the majority of their IP's won't start rolling out games until holiday 2021 at the earliest with 2022 being the year they really push their IP's, and by that holiday we could even be seeing a $399 Series X. 4K TVs are not expensive decent models that have [email protected] are selling this holiday for $200 and this price and for another $100 or so you can add [email protected] and [email protected] to that same [email protected] panel, the same price and less as a Series S. The Xbox One X will still receive support into 2021, and possibly until holiday 2022 and offers similar performance to the Series S at not additional cost to those who own one. The Series S is a console that will sell to parents who don't know any better and just get their kids the cheapest Xbox available to them, or those who are on hard times right now and want to be able to get something for their kids. However, this console is a mistake IMO, and should be the niche option of the two Xbox, not the leading seller that it'll inevitably be. If you can drop $300 for a Series S this holiday, then put that $300 away, and save up another $300 for next year and get a Series X instead, otherwise spend the extra $100 and get an all digital PS5. The Series S is NOT the console anyone should be buying, it gets the job done, but overtime it will be left behind as it simply doesn't have the power to play games at the resolutions (there are current games running at 720p on this already), and eventually framerates of next-gen AAA games.
Series S is great as a Gamepass/xbox exclusive machine especially for only £20 a month all included. I bought one for this reason and a PS5 as my main console to play all the newer, flashier releases.
Cheapest 4k tv I found is €200
Guarantee it will give an awful gaming experience too.
4K is 4k. they are at least 60Hz and should be good enough for next gen consoles. awful IF you're going to nitpick it like crazy and zoom on the screen every 2secs to find flaws
@badz149 Enjoy your input lag and washed out colors then I guess
Will be curious to see how this machine sells this gen. I suspect the machine is already a bit too undercooked in specs. Hitting 1080p might be a possibility but we are already seeing some games struggling to hit that native 1440p.
Sea of Thieves is going to only be 1080p60. Now that reviews are out, and they note small hitches in these Xbox One enhanced titled, man. I don't get how they couldn't just bump up the GPU to 6TF to give us something that could actually hit 1440p, or at least run titles with One X enhancements.
Everyone that buys a series s will have their own reasons for doing so, just because it doesnt match the reasons many people give for not buying one it doesnt make it any more wrong...
Both the Xbox One S and Xbox Series S are consoles you're going to want to replace if you upgrade to a 4K TV (which can be had for very cheap). The Series S can't run the Xbox One X versions of games, so the vast majority of games on gamepass are going to be extremely similar between the One S and Series S besides boosted load times. If you want a cheap gamepass machine, you might as well just get an Xbox One S for half the price, and start saving up for the Series X and a 4K TV.
They're being generous with the 7.
This a 7, SXS an 8, if they give the PS5 a 7, same as XSS the Internet would be interrupted, lol. I think they'll give PS5 an 8 just to maintain parity with the XSX. They may give the DE a 7 just so they are in perfect parity. That way there are no accusations of bias.
You're going to be disappointed if you think the PS5 will just get an 8. Sony also innovated the controller and UI and has better launch games
On the contrary, I'd actually be very happy. I just don't think IGN will put themselves out there and declare the PS5 better than XSX. Downvote all day, but I'm making my prediction based off IGN and console war politics, not the actual hardware. I agree the PS5 will be much better on launch because of the controller, Demon's Souls, and MM + more. They'll come up with something, like specs or ssd size to dock it a point and bring it to parity, just so they don't look bias to one side or the other, I predict.
Will this downsample to 1080p
Yikes.....that's not very good. But then again, Microsoft hasn't really bothered showing any actual next gen games.
ill give this review a 7/10
Going for the Series X. The S is for budget gamers and I haven't been on a "budget" for years.
What comes to mind is that this console is for those uninformed parents who doesn't know about specs and technology and will see a cheaper price and say... Well this one cheaper and is new.
And why is this so bad? Most kids do not care about specs, if they did, I would have stopped playing on a Mega Drive once I got my Dreamcast, and I would have played on my Xbox more than a PS2, but that wasn't the case, and that is no different with todays generation of kids either. Just look at some of the most popular games that kids play.....Minecraft, Roblox, Among Us, Fortnite. None of these games are demanding, so kids would be perfectly happy with a Series S.
Series S is the xbox console to get. No point in spending much money when you can just use their gamepass for all their games. And then once you're done you could sell it back for credit. I will be getting the series s once there are 5-10 exclusives that I'm interested in. I would love to get the ps5 at launch, however, I will wait as well to make sure there aren't any issues. There is a ton of value in being able to paly all the xbox games of next gen at 1080p /30 or 60fpa for a really low price and small investment. I don't like that they have a weak and powerful console to begin with. Never bought into the xbox x or the ps pro. So for me just like the original xbox one is microsoft main console this gen. The series S is what I view as microsoft main console next gen. Wish it came with a disc version though.
The console was made for ppl who won't see the difference between 4K and 1080P or won't mind. So I see a lot of 4k tv are cheap in the comment section but the same ppl are failing to understand concept of 4k gaming. 1) Cheap tv offer a poor refresh rate making the screen less smooth and less stable in this case you are better suit with a 1080P 120hz tv compared to a 60Hz 4k tv (and beware of fake 120 HZ). 2) Latency again a problem with cheap tv are that they are great for watching movies but they suck for gaming. 3) The majority will never see the difference between 1080P and 4K because they are sitting to far from the TV, according to Sony, the optimal distance to see the details difference on a 65" tv is 4 feet https://www.sony.com/electr... How many of you are sitting closer to 5 feet from your tv?
...why are they giving a score for a console?
"A console that should never have been made"
Most people on this site are gamers and want the best, but for the casual and budget conscious parents this makes sense.
N4G is a community of gamers posting and discussing the latest game news. It’s part of NewsBoiler, a network of social news sites covering today’s pop culture.