PS5 Leak Shows Off New Section of UI, 664GB Storage, & More

A fresh PS5 leak has surfaced, showing off a bit more of the UI along with the storage available on the console.

[Jin_Sakai]

Can someone just leak everything in a proper video? PS5 is out next week.

[RaidenBlack]

6th is the 2nd embargo lift

[lukasmain]

Some strange people are getting caught up with the storage number. Are they forgetting that it's more than twice as fast as the Series X ssd AND it will have the crazy raw IO throughput. This is going to innovate game design going forward in the coming years. Sony are ahead of the curve and really trying to innovate here. I don't care at all about it only being 664gb.

[Rocketisleague]

@potato.

Yas it's up and downs but it's a big hassle of a down to have low space tbh. Ideally games can compress their shit well this gen

.looking at you cod warfare

For what it's worth the games installed on to the ssd will.be fast

I'm constantly struggling with this gens space let alone next gen. Days gone just got a 25gb update the other day, on ps4! I assume it's mostly updating for ps5. That's a h8ge amount of.space extra. Patches these days are big even

[TheScotsman]

Nah I down load an average ps4 game in 30 minutes, so it's no hassle to delete and reinstall as I see fit.

[StormSnooper]

Isn’t the series s something crazy like only 300 Gb? For a digital only console mind you.

[darthv72]

It's not a big deal to me about the SSD capacity. i plan on using my external hdd for all my digital and installed PS4 games. Only using the internal for PS5 (obviously). Same with the Series S/X. Only using the internal storage for those specific games and using externals for everything else.

[Mithan]

@potatoseal
What are you talking about? 10GB isn't going to magically turn into 5GB because your upload is double the speed. The new Call of Duty game is about 130GB on the PS5 for example. This does not mean its going to be 260GB on the PS4.

As for others not caring because they have fast download, meaning they can download a game in an hour or two if they need it, keep in mind the majority of people can not do that, so storage is an issue.

In my case, I nuke games when done so I don't really care and I have the benefit of a 1GBps connection, but many people (the majority who will own this) are still on 5-25MBps DSL, so it is an issue, even with a disc version.

I think a lot of people are going to be looking at 1-2TB nvme PCI4 storage for this next year. I know I will stick a 1TB into it as soon as possible, just to be on the safe side.

[Babadook7]

I knew it was 664 a long time ago. Series X is nearly as low.

[Rocketisleague]

This is pretty crazy, guessing Xbox is just as low? Sooo...Are games performance now dependant on ssd? If we want good load times we gotta buy an external ssd. Welcome to pc gaming issues console only fans.

8 or 9 games we can hold on the base ps5. Ah well, download speeds should improve soon unless 5g is stopped..

[Darkwatchman]

The Xbox has 802GB of usable space because it’s a 1TB drive whereas the PS5 is shipping with 825GB and based on the last rumors and now this leak, it really seems like 664GB if usable space out of that 825GB drive.

[Rocketisleague]

That's great dark, an extra 2 or 3 games. Imo is has the same issue, 2tb woulda been the sweet spot imo. An extra 50 - 100 quid more expensive model please.

[GamerRN]

2 or 3 games when we are only taking about 8 to begin with is huge!

[Neonridr]

664GB won't last long either.

[isarai]

I think it'll be fine for the first year or so, unless you install warzone 😅. By that time i'm pretty sure i'll be able to find a decent priced expansion option out there.

[Neonridr]

yeah I'm still waiting to see what we have to look at for expansions. I mean people talk about these NVMe drives, but do we just plug those in? Do we need something special, like an enclosure? Be nice to know more.

[Darkwatchman]

A year or so? I’m sorry? I’m getting the Series X first and even with that one having 802GB of usable space, I already had to buy that stupid expensive proprietary expansion Card because I KNOW I will exceed 802GB in under 6 months. Hell, day 1 alone I will have anywhere from 30-45% of it filled with new games and existing games that have next-gen patches

[GameBoyColor]

@Neonridr NVMEs are just plugged into the expansion slot and screwed down. Nothing else is needed BUT gotta be careful if you get one with a bulky heatsink.

Current pcie 4s are fast and not too crazy priced for 1tb. Between 150-240usd and will go down in a few more months.

[oof46]

Cyperpunk 2077 is on two blu ray discs. I wonder how many gigs that game will eat up.

[DJStotty]

@Darkwatchman

"I already had to buy that stupid expensive proprietary expansion Card"

No Dark, you really do not, i have a 2tb USB external with all my games on, and will just transfer to internal the ones i am playing.

[Darkwatchman]

@DJ, yes, because I want to waste anywhere from 8-15+ minutes transferring a game from an external hdd to the internal drive when I want to play it and speed along the process of the SSD dying which only has so many read/write cycles before it croaks. I like having as much of my library instantly accessible to play as possible. Imagine one day I’m depressed and have a feeling for this one game, then the transfer process for some 115GB game is over 20 minutes. That will littlerally kill my motivation to play altogether

[darthv72]

@Dark, I get your concern over the longevity of the SSD but realistically these things can last decades. At my work, we have servers that run 24/7 and all use SSD drives in raid configuration. We have been using these for the last 5 years and the drives still show a 99% life expectancy. If in 5 years the percent dropped by 1... just imagine how long will take for them to reach their critical point of no return. And chances are people wont have their PS5 on 24/7.

@Neon, as for the NVME expansion, I believe they took into consideration drives with heatsinks on them. That bay (from the teardown vid) looked rather deep so they knew that drives that would be compatible would likely have heatsinks on them. And even though what gameboy said is true (that there are 1tb nvme for 150-240) the big thing is it HAS to be approved by sony. That list is rather short at the moment (if at all) and it is presumed that approved drives may command a premium price because of their being approved for the PS5. PC drives arent that strict so yes, there are brands and sizes and speeds that run the gamut.... on PC.

[gamer7804]

depends on how much games you have and if your kids play, mine will be over that amount day one.

[frostypants]

@GameBoyColor nvme heat sinks are mostly just for show and a way to take more of your money. Few nvme drives get hot enough to actually need them.

@Dark a traditional HDD will suffer mechanical failure YEARS before an SSD will die (or lose significant storage) due to r/w cycles. It's silly to worry about that. FUD from the early days of SSD tech.

[ziggurcat]

My 8TB external HDD says it'll be plenty.

[JaXion5]

You can't play PS5 games from an external HDD so good luck with that.

[ziggurcat]

"You can't play PS5 games from an external HDD so good luck with that."

You can store all of your games on an external, and just transfer whichever game(s) you want to play at that time. to the internal SSD.

[jwillj2k4]

I wonder if you can store the games you’re not playing on network storage

[1nsomniac]

Apparently it still takes almost 10 mins to copy a new, average sized game from an external HDD to the PS5’s internal SSD.

...so again, good luck with that!

[King_Noctis]

It is a very inconvenient way to transfer file back and forth, especially with the super sonic speed of the ancient HDD. Plus, it would just gonna wear and tear the SSD and the HDD even faster.

[ziggurcat]

@1nsomniac:

"Apparently it still takes almost 10 mins to copy a new, average sized game from an external HDD to the PS5’s internal SSD."

So?

@Noctis:

"It is a very inconvenient way to transfer file back and forth..."

I do it already, so it's no more inconvenient than it is right now.

"Plus, it would just gonna wear and tear the SSD and the HDD even faster."

The amount of data transferring would be no different than downloading/deleting games without an external, so moot point.

[Dee_91]

@ziggurcat

yeah ive been doing this all gen. i never have all of my games installed at once on my ps4. Hell i do the same on my pc now that i think about it. I put games that im playing more on my ssd and put ones that im not playing on my 4tb hdd... it's really not a big deal at all lol

[SmokinAces]

Storage is bad all around on all the next gen consoles, hopefully the prices will come down on some quality compatible drives soon as expanding storage is pretty much a requirement this time around for xbox and Playstation.

[NEXUS-6]

So happy Sony has done right by its customers not going with proprietary expansion.

Such a short sighted move by ms, my external NVMe is just as fast as their proprietary one and 2/3rds cheaper.

Imagine 3yrs from now.

What were they thinking?

[King_Noctis]

You have a NVME 4.0 SSD?

[NEXUS-6]

Nah - 3.0 - ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB, Read up to 3,500MB/s, Write up to 3,000MB/s.

Just transferred 1.34gig in 15 seconds from PS4Pro - dare I say it'll be faster on PS5.

It was only $250Au + $40 for the enclosure.

For comparison the xbox card is $360 and pretty much the same speed.

xbox owners got dudded again.

[Knightofelemia]

Still better then what the Series S has for SSD space which is half of that

[Neonridr]

ok.. but let's not pretend like this is a ton of space to work with. Stop deflecting.

[Knightofelemia]

Not deflecting its the truth

Read this then come back

https://n4g.com/news/238340...

[DEEHULK88]

500GB xbox-one had 362, so nothing new

[NEXUS-6]

But the proprietary cards are almost the price of a new console.

[starsi360]

The series S is a budget console. Compare X and PS5 for a like for like comparison.

[TheColbertinator]

My sentiments exactly. The real next gen contenders are the PS5 and the Xbox Series X.

[NEXUS-6]

Nah - compare the series s against PS5 digital edition, now we're talking.

Sony has shown how you release a digital version of a console.

The series s is an embarrassment by comparison.

[Mehmeh]

@Nexus
Not exactly direct competitors though.
You could say both are digital versions as neither have disc drives, but aimed at different markets.

PS5 digital - for those who doesn’t want/need a disc drive.
Xbox Series S - for those who doesn’t want/need 4K.

If anything both of the PS5’s should be compared to the Series X.

But somehow I bet you don’t agree with that logic?

[NEXUS-6]

PS5 digital - $600 au - A full featured monster of a console, minus a UHD drive.
xbox s/s - $500 and $360 for an expansion card, who is the numpty going that route? Underpowered AND next to no HDD space. No deflecting needed, no twisting of words.

Sony has clearly given their customers the better options, how can you all deny that?

[DJStotty]

Nice deflect, but you do not need 4K assets for the Series S, so the same game, will take less space on the S.

Nice try though

[UnholyLight]

I'm not sure why people don't understand the Series S occupies a space in the Console market that ISN'T supposed to be the top tier. It's like Apple with iPhone:

iPhone 12 = Xbox Series S
(A natural transition from Xbox One/Xbox One S with what capabilities it offers)

iPhone 12 Pro = Xbox Series X
(For those that want the top of the line complete experience, coming over from Xbox One/Xbox One S/Xbox One X that want THE BEST)

The Series S is designed to undercut the PS5, not compete directly as a substitute product. This is not hard to figure out. Now if Microsoft eventually ditches the disc drive on the Series X, NOW you have a direct competitor to the PS5 Digital

[NEXUS-6]

What you lot fail to understand is - THEY ARE DIRECT COMPETITORS - no matter how you want to twist the narrative. They are all new consoles vying for customers money, irrespective of where they fit in to the market place.

ms is releasing a digital console, Sony is releasing a digital console - where's the confusion?

Is SWITCH excluded from current gen conversations because of it's lack power? Or because it can be used as handheld?

Such a strange lot of gamers on the xbox side - ms aren't competing with Sony, they competing against Google& Amazon. Remember that line? Doesn't surprise me, Sony has ms on the ropes - they have for the last decade.

[UnholyLight]

@NEXUS-6 A Ferrari and an Audi both have 4 wheels, an engine, some performance, and go places. Does that mean they are they same? Do they occupy the same position in the market? No of course not. The Series S isn't even designed to match the PS5 capabilities, much like my example above, merely undercut it and sell more units or convince people to come to Microsoft. That's all I'm saying, hence the iPhone example. I don't understand why this is so contested, the PS5 digital is closer to a diskless Xbox Series X than the XSS is to a PS5 digital. They address different needs for consumers in the market.

Also pro tip, I like Sony AND Microsoft (I spent more time on PS4 this generation in fact), so whatever "narrative" or spin you think I'm rolling with...is completely irrelevant. I was merely highlighting the business sense of what each product means in the market. Obviously they are vying for customer's money, all products do. Also wtf, of course they are competing against Sony. I am looking at this from a business degree, not from a "fanboy perspective".

Have a great day :)

[goldwyncq]

They’re both shit and nobody should be defending any of them.

[King_Noctis]

The Xbox Series S is cheaper than both PS5 variants in case you forget that.

[gamer7804]

thats a 300$ budget console, i wouldn't expect much from that considering how much ssd's costs

[TGGJustin]

I know there are embargos lifting later this week but damn is it ridiculous that this system is out in a week and we still don't know things about it. Just let these people talk about it already Sony.

[blackblades]

I still can't believe theres one more week, like it doesnt feel like it. Can't wait for the embargo to disappear.

[porkChop]

The secrecy is frustrating. If you expect people to buy your product they need to know how the product works. We shouldn't still be waiting on basic info with just a week to go.

[jwillj2k4]

Na, I’m still gonna buy it.

[MrNinosan]

You do know that it’s next to impossible to buy/pre-order a PS5 right now, right?
And that’s with even more PS5 available than there was PS4.

I and many with me doesn’t need to see everything. We know that Sony will deliver.

Sony knows their product will sell out anyways.

And I’m glad that we haven’t seen everything yet, that will make a more surprise moment just days ahead of me aquiring one myself.

[RedDevils]

If you not gonna buy it, let me buy it then.

[ziggurcat]

We do know how it works, though.

[Antnee534]

So do we know how HDD work on this I have a 4tb external on my ps4 will all I have to do is plug it into my ps5 and start playing the game on the external?

[SmokinAces]

You cant play off the external but you can store games there and transfer them to the internal drive to play from whenever you like.

[Antnee534]

Can you at least play the ps4 games off it? I knew about ps5 games. Thank you for the reply!

Edit
My bad for making this comment looked at the next response and it was already answered lol.

[MrNinosan]

You can play PS4 games from external but not PS5 games of course.

[westcoastcooldude]

Do you get any benefits from moving PS4 games to the PS5 ssd to play them?

[MrNinosan]

@westcoastcooldude

Yeah. Shorter loadtimes and uncapped framerate.

[DJStotty]

Yes Antnee, your current external will work.

You can run PS4 games from the external, just not PS5 games as they will use the SSD architecture.

I am guessing it is the same as the Series X in that respect. All current games will work, but games that are optimised/built for next gen, need the SSD.

[darthv72]

I have not tried it with a spare PS4 but i know that unplugging an external on an xbo and plugging into a one x is really just that simple. the one x sees the games and lets me play them (so long as i am signed in of course).

I've heard you cant do that between ps4 systems, at least not as easy as my example above.

[P_Bomb]

“I've heard you cant do that between ps4 systems, at least not as easy as my example above.”

You can. I plug ‘n’ play my external between OG and Pro all the time. Same games, saves.

[andy85]

More would have been nice but an extra 150 GB isn't gonna do much. I'm fine with that much storage to be honest. If it would have been higher the console cost would have skyrocketed. I get the feeling installing games is going to be SO much faster so I don't mind deleting and reinstalling

[Vertigo15]

664gb wouldn’t feel that bad back in 2014 and the games weren’t 100+ gb.

[GameBoyColor]

With updates of 25gb+ constantly lol

[Kubark]

Exactly.

[Ghostbob]

Game management is easy stop bitching about the SSD size use an external to store the games then just transfer a game over when you want to play it.

[DJStotty]

Exactly, i have used an external since the original xbox one 500gb.

This next gen changes absolutely nothing

[Zeke68]

But isn't game installs much smaller on PS5 due to no need to have 100's of item-duplicates on the SSD ?! If so we should have room for as many games as the PS4 had on a 1 TB hdd.

[Rocketisleague]

Guess we meed some examplrs form companies. Are standard aaa is the 25 50 or 100gb territory this time.

[Zeke68]

Exactly. I hope reviewer's take game size into account on PS5 gamereviews and hold the companies under pressure on this so they don't keep up with the lazy programming and bloatware gameinstalls as they do now late in current-gen.

[purple101]

100. So it's 6 games and a couple Indies. And /or demos, etc.

[purple101]

Yes indeed. If a game is 100gb. (I know cod is more but mostly 100 ) That's 6 games. And a couple Indies or demos.

I doubt anyone will be playing more than that's in rotation or at least the majority of people will be fine with this there might be a few outliers that one 30 games and play from dusk till Dawn.

But that's not going to be very often

[H9]

This is really small and not enough, it won't last long, everyone knows we eventually would need a external drive, but this will make people buy one faster than usual

[GameBoyColor]

100%. This basically went from hidden cost to required purchase now. I don't mind it that much since it isn't proprietary like the Vita and xsx is though.

[1nsomniac]

So the leak of 665gb storage was true. Anyone remember what other details were in that leak, I seem to remember there was quite a few?

The storage capacity in both these next gen consoles is a complete joke!

[chiefJohn117]

I'm sorry but that not acceptable, Sony should've put a 1tb drive in it. 664 is a joke.

[purple101]

It's 825gb total.

664gb available.

[Mister_Wolf]

I don’t care which company we are talking about, they should be open about this stuff well before launch. Don’t leave it a week or so before launch, after pre-orders have been out to let people know. Spending £400-450 on these consoles, let us know what we are getting in its entirety, before the pre-orders start.

[VivaLaManual]

My god...what is chewing up all that real estate on the HD.... That's awful.

[Nacho_Z]

I can see why some people have an issue with the storage. Personally I'm accustomed to keeping a limited number of games and deleting them when I'm done with them, had no spare room on my PS4 for ages, so I'd rather pay less for a PS5 and accept a lower storage space.

Presumably if it had a massive amount of storage that'd be directly reflected in a much higher price for the console and it's expensive enough as it is imo.

[C-H-E-F]

i wonder when will sony drop the SSD prices, i mean I wasn't even able to order one when I pre-ordered through the sony pre-order invite... I would like to secure 2TB.

[Challengerscatpack]

664? That is awful! With 664 you’re only going to get 3 COD games before you’re out of space.

[Imortus_san]

Only 664GB, and the Series is 360Gb, damm this consoles have little space for games.

[Einhander1971]

Being as the ps5 is so fast its not a big deal to uninstall and reinstall im sure. Most times when I complete a game I delete it off, if I want to play again I just insert the disc and reinstall its not something to cry about.

[purple101]

With the usb3.1 and 3.1 external drive....it's going to be fast. Unlike xbox series with-USB 2,0# tat 5gbs a sec. Ps5 will be using 3.1 at 10gbs a sec.

I guess they really want you to buy their propeitry drive for $220 instead of a decent 3.1 drive and transfer between that and ssd when needed.

[Edgelordsupreme]

The Series X has USB 3.1 Gen 1, what on earth are you on about?

[purple101]

Sorry I might have made a mistake but I read this ..

"The other point of note is that the PS5’s USB ports are pretty darn fast. The front USB-C and rear USB 3.0 ports (the blue ones) are SuperSpeed rated, and can offer speeds of up to 10 Gbps. The front USB 2.0 port is only rated for ‘HiSpeed’, which is limited to 480 Mbps. The Xbox Series X doesn’t have any USB-C ports, while the rest of its USB 3.1 Type-A ports can only offer 5 Gbps"

[Edgelordsupreme]

Yeah this is why I can't stand this site.

"The other point of note is that the PS5’s USB ports are pretty darn fast. The front USB-C and rear USB 3.0 ports (the blue ones) are SuperSpeed rated, and can offer speeds of up to 10 Gbps. The front USB 2.0 port is only rated for ‘HiSpeed’, which is limited to 480 Mbps."

What you have copied here is the article stating that the PS5 has a USB 2.0 cable out front. THE USB forums naming is very strange and some standards have multiple names, it's a very messy thing. The other thing to take away here is that you're not wrong that the PS5 will transfer games quicker, but both consoles are going to load BC PS4/XB1 games at about the same speed off of an external SSD. Digital Foundry already tested this on a Seres X. Why are we so testy about USB ports anyways? Is it that the consoles are so similar that we have to use differences in ports to try to lift one up? Could it be a little tech tribalism?

Ask yourself this

[XiNatsuDragnel]

PS5 Hype

[CrimsonWing69]

god can they just show the full UI, already?

Why is it that we have to wait less than a week from release to see everything?

[FernDiggidy]

damn.....Am I able to upgrade my storage with a bigger SSD drive? Or is the SSD drive proprietary?

I currently have 2TB in my PS4.

[Phoenix76]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if it's at all possible to delete Astrobot after completing/finishing playing around with new controller features?
I know that it wouldn't free up a huge amount of space, perhaps 10-15gb, but can we reclaim that space?

[OB1Biker]

Yes I saw I think it was on TechRadar the guy said he wants to uninstall the astro game to reclaim 10gb.
Got to say he was contradictory in a few claims and not very professional but the part about that game sounds right.
He is the one who said HDMI cable is the same as on the Pro. Which proved to be HDMI 2.1 actually

[DaniMacYo]

All these leakers afraid of getting their social media accounts band or strike or perhaps in trouble by Sony. Surely they could just create a new account upload everything and be done with it. All this teasing.

[northpaws]

Do people keep every single game they own in their system? I personally only keep the most recent 3-4 games and delete everything else. More is for sure better, but that also drive up the cost, this is more than enough for me.

[xYLeinen]

Never understood why you need much storage space unless you have a bad connection.

Many of us got fiber internett og can easily just download a game within an hour. No need to have more than 1-3 games on your PS at the same time.