The internets favourite games analyst Michael Pachter has predicted that Sony's PlayStation 5 will outsell the Xbox Series X by 5 million units a year due to one specific reason.
10 million it is.
It is Patcher after all. What he predicts is usually the opposite.
So you are saying xbox will outsell PS5 by 5 million a year? 😂
Darth This is a pretty safe assumption so I don't think he can be wrong
Lol, you don't really think XSX will come close to PS5 sales do you?
I think darth is agreeing with Jin_Sakai's 10 million
You're right. It'll be 10 million.
@darthv72 Yeah maybe since sony bent the knee to censors and jumped on the 70 dollar games greedy bandwagon. Ill go with game pass than pay 70 dollar games again. Nintendo did this when they had a monopoly back in the day, zelda, Nba jam, mortal kombat 1 and other games were 80 to 100 dollars back in the genesis and Nes and super nintendo days but atleast we could rent games from the local video store then thats gone now. . Those high priced games when i was a teen i could rent for 5 dollars for a weekend beat it then return it . It sometime took me two weekends in a row to beat a game if it wasnt rented out the next weekend but i wasnt going to pay 70 to 80 dollars to buy it and this is in 1990's money. Getting a sonic the hedgehog and a genesis for 250 back in the 1990s was alot of money back then. Any of the arcade games that came to console were 70+ dollars to buy for you kids that disagree i bet none of you were alive then go cry to your mom.
At an absolute minimum. I can see more PS5/PC combos in peoples homes.
15 million is realistic
I never understoof the fascination of console unit sales. I mean, I own stock in various companies, including MS, Amazon, Netflix, Sony, Paypal, etc. Sure I hope sales are great for both, but don't really leverage articles like these. On topic, I would ezpect both to do well, but Sony will continue to have a huge market share.
The thing is that MS is not pushing just a hardware, is pushing a service that will be possible to be use on millions cellphones, PC, consoles and tablets. How many subscribers will have gamepass vs PSN is the thing at the end of each year of next gen that we should check.
If Sony were to do a Game Pass like model for PS Now, it would change my stance on the PS5. The Sony exclusives I love are incredible games, but I only play them once. If they gave them to use day one in a subscription service...I'm all in.
The first year for sure it should be 10 million or higher. But, subsequent years this is going to be more difficult. You look at this last gen the consoles shipped in late 2013. Currently it is about 115 mln to 50 mln consoles over a 7 year period where XB was in chaos for a good part of the generation. So Sony has barely averaged 10 mln per year this generation. XB is already starting this generation in a much better position. They have 23 studios now and while none are really delivering for the launch that just means 23 studios are set to deliver in the next 1-5 years. So, just on that alone gamers will be more interested in XB then last generation when they had about 5 studios.
I haven't pre-ordered it.... It's unavailable everywhere... I can wait for couple of months. Still happy with my PS4
Id like to play Spiderman but that is about it from the launch lineup of either console. Not a fan of Demon Souls would never ever play it. I did think that destruction all stars looked good but IM smelling a Driveclub like delay for that game.
Is there any MODS here that can help? I made a reasonable, intelligent and well-explained comment about a potential sales disparity and because some immature Xbox fans (not the whole Xbox N4G community) disagreed they've have reported it as SPAM. It wasn't spam and this is suppressing views they disagree with. Can anybody help with this please?
Well if Sony can keep up wuth demand; they're outsold everywhere. When are phase2 pre-orders happening?
I’ve been told they will restock on both consoles for Black Friday
I hope they have a better scheme that the one they had last time.What happened to all the emails they were sending out for people to register their interest anyway?
Most retailers including best buy
I know the world has gone a little mad - but in-store pick up would make the bots a little less active. Or they could just say purchases in-store only. Probably won't happen of course, just a thought.
They dont care how they sell them or to who, just that they sell them.
Well, I mean, yes Pachter. It doesn't take an analyst to predict that.
I'm predicting that estimation to be correct, but per country :)
5 million difference? Probably in the USA. In the rest of the world, the difference will be much greater.
Per year, he said. I'm predicting that Sony will sell 6million PS5's in Germany compared to 1million Xbox's sold. Pretty much mirroring this current generation in Germany.
Closer to 10 million
Now the Playstation crowd likes him.
Im a PS guy but I don’t like him at all. Just because he’s making a little bit of sense doesn’t make him likable . He is just giving a safe to assume number
jznrpg - A very safe number. There's a little hype for xsx/s in some parts of the world, but hype for PS5 in every parts of the world. And the parts where xsx/s hype is, PS5 still has more.
He’s understating the difference there will be by oh 3-5 million. His prediction is going to be terribly wrong.
Can he get anything right?
I'd consider myself a member of that crowd and I dont so there goes that theory.
Who likes him? He makes 2 kinds of prediction: 1) Completely wrong 2) Obscenely obvious Here we have a mix of both, since it's obscenely obvious that PS5 will outsell the other console but it's wrong about the number (since it's probably a lot bigger). But this doesn't mean that someone could like him.
Considering how the ps5 pre-orders are al lover the world, I believe it.
Hey guys so do we remember Hiphop gamer? we got him banned from this site? why not ban this shitter?
Lol, likely way more than that.
I wonder if sales is gonna matter again for M$...
Sales always matter. It's just shameful to show when you're losing badly.
Everytime Pachter says something it's always the opposite. He telling us Xbox Series X will outsell PS5 by 5 million units a year.
Which is actually good, so Microsoft wont raise the prices up too soon on Gamepass and they'll work harder. Too many sales are never good because companies tend to get lazy. Take a look at Nint€ndo.
Is the "one specific reason" common sense?
Pachter talking sense for a change.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
That's the same dude that just recently said Nintendo isn't smart and that no one plays the switch docked so the docked switch model should disappear. Lol
So you think xsx will outsell PS5?
Switch already outsold them both combined .-. Switch is technically the same gen as sx and ps5. Fanboys will listen to this dude when convenient(as you can see here). Go by your own beliefs instead not someone like him.
Switch is not next gen no matter how much you want to change the subject. I don't do belief. I don't listen to pachter but I do go by what makes Sense. Ps5 is going to outsell xbox again.
@FanboySpotter You're technically a little nerd. The Switch released almost 4 years ago. It competes with its contemporaries, no matter what gen you think it is.
Fanboy - no one on this site has ever accused Pachter of being intelligent. But this one is a safe bet.
so little? i dont think so.
But does Xbox care? :P
And the rest.
Around my estimate I'm guessing 4-5 but that won't start till after year 2
Lets be logical for a moment. Sony, this generation, has outsold Xbox by a big margin. Nobody in their right mind is going to expect those fans to shift loyalty. So on that basis alone Sony should dominate again. Of course, as I've expressed several times before, a single box company will increasing struggle in the competing with more flexible options as we move forward.
PlayStation will be outselling xBSs 3 to 1 by the end of this new gen.
So guaranteed to not outsell by 5million let's see which way it goes.
Good for Sony, so they dont have to close shop.
First year is likely to be closer and the gap to widen as the years go on.
A broken clock is correct twice a day.
Patcher is off on this one. Both will sell out at launch and through the end of this year with any differences in total sales down to what they can can manufacture. Any numbers they give early on mean nothing other than total manufacturing capacity. Once both companies go through the early manufacturing/shortage phase I'd expect PS to pull ahead by a similar or even greater margin as this gen; between 2 to 1 and 3 to 1. The momentum of launch and the first year is crucial to the long term sales of each platform. Sony has the momentum from this gen, more than twice the sales of their competition, 114 million people tied into their ecosystem and digital libraries, a much stronger global mind share/brand, years of established extremely strong first party software support, and a strong first two years of software on deck. Microsoft doesn't stand a chance in the tradition console space and they know it. Which is why they are in the GamePass and cloud business now. That model is platform agnostic. Play their games on what ever you want, as long as you sub they get their money.
most of the xbox units sold were the xbox one x variety at this stage Pach has more credibility then Phil
“He believed that Sony will outsell Microsoft for at least 3 years before it levels off” The first year would sell out for both. Then we will see proper numbers.
First time i partially agree with Pachter :D Partially because according to me it's true it's going to sell more than the other console but a lot more than 5mil.
if patcher doesnt know about xbox one, then how is he going to know any of it?
I can believe his prediction. It does not matter to me because ultimately I will own both a PS5 and XSX..
Ps5 3 years in would have pummeled xbox sx