Our benchmark results show the RTX 3070 stacking up really close to the RTX 2080 Ti, but for much cheaper...if you can find one.
Meh RX 6000 is better
Probably why it costs more
We haven't seen independent benchmarks yet and we have no idea about the RT capabilities of Big Navi. If we go by AMD figures alone rasterization-performance/$ should be in the same ballpark across 3070, 6800 and 6800 XT, so it mostly becomes a question of how much performance you need. The RX 6800 will probably be slightly more future proof as a 4k card compared to the 3070, because it has twice the amount of VRAM and ~14% more performance on average (according to the limited sample size provided by AMD). Availability is another factor to keep in mind. We can compare the cards on paper all day long, but if one is available while the other isn't there really isn't much of a choice.
The RAM Advantage the 3070 will never overcome, but can't we say the 3070 is future-proof in a completely different way - with DLSS & all that offers?
In terms of the tech yes. We've already seen how impressive DLSS can be. It'll depend how widely it'll be supported going forward. We also don't know how AMDs alternative will compare yet. Still a lot of unanswered questions, but it looks like they will all be solid cards to say the least.
This is gonna be a weird comment, but thanks for this. I feel like, in general, I'm one of the few writing longer comments & trying to kind of add the grey area to the mostly black & white discussions that go on. You did it succinctly, and I don't really have anything major to add. Only other thing - that only time will prove out - is the fact that AMD is in all the consoles, and they finally have the same architecture as what's available on PC. Any RT or DLSS implementation at this point has been PC only, and RTX being a fraction of the PC install base has seen limited titles implementing those features. But I can see big multiplatform releases - which tend to push high-end PC hardware hardest anyway - using AMD tools & optimizations thanks to them applying to consoles & PC alike. Be interesting to see if anything comes of that, or if it is just a nice theory that bears no fruit. Anyway, definitely appreciated seeing more levelheaded, well thought out comments!
@runechaz lets just wait untill people actually get their hands on the cards. So far nvidia has been top dog in this aspect and a spreadsheet with a couple numbers that they take in the best case scenarios is not changing that yet. It looks promising especially price/quality, but I want benchmarks form actual users in a lot more games. I always loved amd/radeon GPU's but they've fallen behind by quite a bit, lets hope this series changes that.
If anyone is in New York, this MicroCenter has a few in stock. But you need to go there in person, can't buy online: https://www.microcenter.com... Don't know how long this will be in stock. I'm going to wait until nvidia announces a ti version or a super, of this card then will probably buy that one.
500$ isn’t cheap
The implication is that it is "cheap" compared to the 2080Ti. I totally feel you though. I can't afford one of these right now either lol.
When I got my 1080 the 1070 could be found for about $375 GPU prices have basically gone up a tier.. And i'm not a real big fan of the way AMD only sells AMD and Nvidia only sells Nivida for a while to eliminate competition from after market manufacturers as well as only selling the highest end cards even though the lower end cards are significantly easier to produce. And lets not even get into the whole selling mid gen upgrade on GPU's. To shop smart you practically have to wait until the next generation is out before you buy a card.
Just wait and purchase a 6800 and flash the 6800xt bios onto it
Flashing the bios wont give you the 12 extra CUs
I'm flashing my 1080 with the 3080 bios.
It doesn't give you the extra cores but it unlocks the card for higher wattage and clocks. I've done my 5700 to 5700xt bios and its absolutely brilliant. This also worked with my old vega 56 to 64 bios. Although if I'd have bought a £500+ card like a 6800 I might not bios flash from day one in case I mess it up :/
I'll be getting the 3070. Price to Power ratio is pretty good.
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