Some hoped the console war would end with a giant felled but to borrow from T.S. Elliot, it went not with a bang, but with a whimper.
"The PlayStation brand has more-or-less dominated for 25 years and the substantial experience and talent they have accrued in this time has furnished them with a constant stream of killer apps" Damn straight. I think we know who actually won. Lets be honest here. But the other companies are just recently playing slightly different games now. Nintendo are finding great success. They carved out their own section. They don't even launch in the same years as the others anymore. They are mostly thought of as a handheld and they're the only one in that market. The jury is still out on Xbox, because of their current extreme investments and the money pit that is GamePass. The fruits of which still have yet to be seen. But there is great optimism and things seem to be trending up for them and I personally believe, Amazon Luna and Google Stadia don't stand a chance. BUT YOU KNOW WHICH PATHETIC WAR STILL ROLLS ON AND IS MORE DISGUSTING THAN EVER ????? 'The War For Clicks' by the repugnant and untrustworthy 'Games Media'. They're like those disgusting Arms Dealers who get rich by selling weapons to each of the warring factions in the same war. They Lie. They're fake. They pretend to be concerned about trivial things just so they can write multiple opinion pieces that are designed to 'stoke the fires' of the Console Wars. They make up things to be worried or angry about. They're not beholden to the truth of their own feelings. They're beholden to the almighty click. They make mountains out of molehills constantly. It's ironic that this person writes 'The Console War Is Over' when their peers would have you believe otherwise. Desperate for this war to stay alive so they can fill their own pockets. Doing nearly everything in their power to keep it alive and well. Scruples be damned. Of course there are lots of them who have scruples and are just reporting on the news. I guess the bad apples are just so rotten and disgusting that they stand out more than the rest. I don't trust the media at all because of these types of Gaming Websites and so-called Journalists. Always thinking they have some sort of agenda, Whether it's WOKE BS or stoking the Console War flames with lies.
Agreed. However, your post is not only relevant to gaming media, but the whole of all media.
The console war will pretty much always be a thing. As long as there is competition for all 3 of these consoles, it will exist to an extent. Despite what people think, there are plenty of people that will only buy 1 of the 3 consoles. And as long as thats the case, all 3 consoles will do what they can to make their console the most appealing. Even Nintendo. Sure, they are looked at as a handheld by a lot of people. But a lot of others keep it plugged in as their home console. And I always laughed at people on this site that claimed Switch sales didn't count against PS4 sales any time they outsold them or broke a record, because Nintendo and Sony don't give a damn about what gen the console is. All they care about is what products are potentially taking sales away from their current console. So yeah, as long as a specific company has a product out that is in direct sales competition with another, there will always be competition. And by default, the war will still exist. (Meaning we will still companies payingg devs for exclusivity, as one example.) And I don't need to mention the fans that are constantly talking trash and hating on other consoles they choose not to buy.
I am in agreement with what you wrote and its sentiment, but the "console war" rages on with or without games media. Just look in here when an exclusive game pops up for one company or another. When one gets good or bad scores. It doesn't take games media to bring out boasting or roasting, people do that of their own accord. The games media certainly takes advantage of that by stoking the flames, but they aren't the sole source of the fire by any stretch.
"But the other companies are just recently playing slightly different games now." Umm no, they have been playing different games for a while now. Microsoft has always being doing whatever to try and control the living room, and Nintendo has pursuing it's on a way for a while, it's always evident in it's controllers. And perhaps it's the new generation, but even I think Nintendo, my first thought isn't handheld company.
I know I'm winning with the PS5, Sony never disappoint when it comes to games.
They did once. The PS Vita disappointed me :(
It disappointed me, too. Not the Vita though. I loved the hardware, I couldn’t stand the expensive storage and how Sony essentially abandoned it. I’ve been enjoying games that have continued coming out for it for a long time now.
Same here! ;)
Unrelated.. I just played Ryse - Son of Rome for the first time on PC last night.. Why hasn't Xbox made another one of this.. or even bought out Crytek.. I feel like this was be a great game to showcase what the Series X can do graphically.. Mind you I only played like 60 minutes so far.. but I feel like there are IP's that Microsoft can revive and would do well to showcase next gen.. but instead they got Halo looking like...
Preach on brotha!
It's the same reason Sony hasn't made another Order 1886 - these games are incredible visual showpieces, but they reviewed mediocre-to-poor and didn't sell well enough to invest another huge development budget in. I'd love for either of them to dig up a game like that to give another chance on next-gen, but they pretty much look to new IP to hit big on the first go. If they don't, drop it and move on. The odds of us seeing a sequel to either of those games is slim-to-none, sadly.
100% im still holding out for a Heavenly Sword sequel.
the console wars are worst now than ever so many toxic fanboys on all platforms who don't even game.
People are designed to be tribal. Look at sports team. There shouldn’t be any “fans” of a team-maybe players sure. But we are hardwired to be like this for survival. Politics, nations, consoles, even streaming subs? People pick their tribe and will defend it no matter what.
False. Just a vocal minority on all counts. The overwhelming majority of people don't ride or die for a political party, nor a console, nor a streaming subscription, and while many people support a team, they mostly aren't offensively toxic towards others.
It's a powerful mix of things. Tribalism. Fear of the unknown/stronger beliefs simply in what you know (or, alternately, falling into the "trusting the devil you know vs the one you don't" mindset). The way we "chunk" information - we take complex topics with many levels of nuance and chuck them into one broader, more generalized category so we can quickly parse information and ideas. It would be almost impossible for us to function without our inherent chunking of information, and then that just further plays into the earlier two points. We also like thinking we've made the best decisions and can act irrationally to defend them. Not to say that it ultimately lets anyone off the hook for anything - a little bit of perspective and empathy go most of the way to negating most of those more "ingrained" factors. Doubly so for things as relatively trivial as what you do as a hobby lol.
Including race? Tribalism has its downsides
i feel like this "war" is mainly fueld by the media. and Spencer couse he just cant seem to stop talkin bull. i think we'd still see some toxic fanboys, but overall, nobody really cares whos going to buy what.
No no no. I have to be able to say I won by giving a company my 💰
Will never end because dedicated hardcore fans exists of all products and if they like something they most likely will defend it against negativity Look at current election trump has his hardcore fanboys/fangirls and this is how politicians have had long successful careers out of empty promises. As soon as we as humans stop seeing and accepting what is right and what is wrong nothing will change To this day I remember when micro transactions came in and same fanboys were defending saying it's only cosmetics, than it's only online and now it's in single player games(assassin's Creed Odyssey XP) boosters are prime example yet people defended ubi and the game saying you can just grind when it showed this game Was definitely developed with making the grind harder so people are more open to just paying. Now take two has been pushing the envelope last year there 2k nba was basically a casino game and that wasn't enough so now they are adding unskipable ads We the gamers are the biggest hypocrites because we will defend something when we like it and we'll hate on something when we dislike it regardless whether it deserves either or not Name one PlayStation executive that is on power with Major Nelson. Or even Phil Spencer you never see PlayStation or nintendo executives take cheap shots but this is Ms 4th home console and their brand is an all time low with 72% of gamers in usa placing their pre orders on Playstation instead of Xbox
Not to get political but because of Trump's election it really shook up the status quo. He isnt a politician, he is a businessman and his completely non PC way of speaking and doing things made millions of Americans rethink who and how they vote. I really believe his election was a much needed wake up call to enact term limits on things overall. no more career politicians who never get things done except tell you what you want to hear. As to your point about liking/hating... yeah that happens to a lot of things. We all have biases to a preferred platform but that doent mean we should berate others for liking something different. I mean this hobby is meant to instill fun and entertainment value. Not create divides over a piece of plastic. We are all in the same hobby for the same reasons, no need to attack those who pick a side or those who dont. Can't we all just game along?
Not to get political but here is a bunch of garbage about Trump on a forum about games. We get this crap everywhere else. Can’t you give it a rest here.
"Will never end because dedicated hardcore fans exists of all products and if they like something they most likely will defend it against negativity" Exactly. You can find this behaviour in basically every aspect of live. -Car enthusiast argue/ fight over their preferred car being better than the others preferred car. - people argue and take shots at other people who like specific other teams(which are basically multi million dollar companies competing against other multi million dollar companies - their are serious arguments and mocking between fans of tigers vs fans of lion (really) And so on and on. Imho there is nothing wrong with banter and rivalry between the sides, because let's be honest it keeps things interesting and these companies in check
someone gimme a free console and i will determine the winner
Nah war ain't over. Sony will dominate once again
I respectfully disagree, this is more like the Hundred Years' War for video games. And as long as players associate brand with identity, which fuels the need to be right, one gamer is always going to dislike another.
I just came here to see replies from PRIMEVINISTER...
Never was one in my eye's
Your comment history says otherwise.
My purchase history says different. Most of my comments be innocent yall just be so insecure and can't take any criticism of your favorite plastic. I'm known to be critical of both companies I don't see Xbox fanboys jumping down my throat. And the minority of my comments honestly be for reactions cause yall reactions be hilarious lol but that was so long ago I don't do that no more. Never at any point have I wish one company to have more success than the other or hoped the other fail. Something you can't say lol
"My purchase history says different. " lol....your purchase history is entirely irrelevant. One day maybe you will figure that out. Making a purchase doesn't make you a different person than you are. If it did, folks everywhere would be posting up their damn receipts. Such an idiotic notion. "Most of my comments be trolling" Fixed "Never at any point have I wish one company to have more success than the other or hoped the other fail. Something you can't say lol" Sure I can. lol. I don't wish any company to fail and have never expressed any such thing. You just made that up. If you want to pretend you haven't been fully engaged in this console war then play make believe all you want. You say that bullshit here and prepare to be called out.
Wtf? That make no sense, purchase history is everything, you can say you flat out dislike something but if you actually purchased it that's shows you're genuine and not trolling so wtf are you talking about? I've owned multiple generations of PS and Xbox so yes my purchase history show there's no console war to me. You can have you're fanboy war it doesn't matter to me. Yall comment be funny and petty I enjoy seeing it for good laughs but for me both consoles are worthy purchases and any criticism or applause I give is honestly minimum of how I feel about the console unless I flat say they're dead to me. Like when Xbox was trying to pull off drm (no way was I buying) Bet you cant steal this post cause you in fact cheerlead for 1 and wish failure on the other. Show me 1 post of me Trashing Sony.... criticism or disagreement (which I also do to MS) isnt trashing but for some reason ppl like you dont see it that way cause you cheerlead for them
"I've owned multiple generations of PS and Xbox so yes my purchase history show there's no console war to me." That's bullshit. You can't buy objectivity and your purchases doesn't change your posts. I've owned every Xbox up until Xbox One. Hell, I've still have my 360. What does that mean about me? Answer: jack shit. "You can have you're fanboy war it doesn't matter to me." You know how easily it is to find posts with you yapping about "fanboys" in your history? That's YOU in YOUR fanboy war. lol "Bet you cant steal this post cause you in fact cheerlead for 1 and wish failure on the other. Show me 1 post of me Trashing Sony.... criticism or disagreement (which I also do to MS) isnt trashing but for some reason ppl like you dont see it that way cause you cheerlead for them" Are you seriously pretending you don't cheerlead for Microsoft? Hell, I've criticized Sony and praised Microsoft in the past. That doesn't happen often, but it has happened. Am I going to pretend I'm not a heavy lean towards Sony when it comes to consoles? Hell no. I'm biased, but at least I'm not delusional. You are both.
As long as Microsoft continues to pay for negative press and talk down everyone every time they open their mouths it'll never end. And the sad truth is they won't stop until they put everyone else out of business or they get out of gaming.
Console wars will continue to exist so long as consumers want to dislike one another based on their preference of platform. The consumer-base has allowed for media and the companies they support to infuse hatred within the masses. The individual urge to "be right" about a purchase will out way the desire to "feel good" about the console the individual desires to play-on if the consumer base continues to relish in the chaos caused by media and the various brands within the industry.
The only consumers winning around here are the scalpers.. Winning would have been being able to pre-order a console during its launch year and not the year after. Consumers will win once these consoles are actually available to be purchased. Been waiting for the PS5 for years and who knows how much longer i will have to wait now.
a 400 bucks playstation 5 which comes with a free library of top tier games the value is insane
Personally I think the tribalism is worse than it's ever been. Just look at the comments on this very site. The way a lot of these people post, one would assume they are children who for some reason have attached their own self-worth to their platform of choice. And that's insane. But I think it's less about the consoles and more about the times we live in. I was a teen when the Genesis and SNES came out. And I never had, or heard of, any argument over which was better back then. Most kids either had both, or were completely happy with whichever one they had. I had only Genesis. And I loved it. Never sat around dwelling on what I didn't have.
So long as there are alternatives for people to invest, be it in gaming or any other consumer base industry, the "war" is never over. It'll only be over when there's only 1 giant company selling everything to us. So either when Tencent, or Amazon take over the world which won't happen
Fanboys says otherwise.
A ps4 and x1 still cost 300 or more to buy. How in any sense is the consumer winning. The systems are 7 years old and a $100 more than they cost a year ago.
Finally.....then again they're never was a console war.......(according to the companies). Sony and Microsoft wanted us to believe it was one. If We won anything is with our wallets.
GET IT RIGHT!!! Consumers lost, Corp. won; pay for online match, DLC, season pass, live service, loot box, game ownership...etc.
And ads in a full priced retail game....
You are wrong. As long as people tend to stick to some brand, there will be always "wars" between brands through whole industry. So as long as MS and Sony will make consoles, there will be customer brand war. Simply as that, always was like that. And its nothing bad. But people should not be toxic.
Yes and PS5 already won/ Everyone can argue, but it's the same story as PS4,PS3,PS2,PS1,lol. They've never lost a gen. Xbox360 mounted a massive slur campaign before PS3 came out, all I remember seeing is PS3 is this, PS3 is that, underpowered, etc etc. Even though both consoles produced 4.4gpixels. exactly the same. Even with xbox360 having a 1 year start with PS3 selling at a high price and hard to program for PS3. The games that came out for PS3 were amazing, and justified buying the console, from uncharted,killzone,motorstorm, resistance for me,god of war and many others. The reason why Sony always wins. It produces killer games and keeps pumping them out year after year. The PS5 will pump out exclusives and quality like no other, the devs that work exclusively are on another level, with only 3rd party games such as COD,GTA selling bucket loads on each system. You know what your getting when you buy playstation.
I remember all that mud slur against ps3.... Who needs bluray Who needs WiFi Free online sux Who needs hdmi (yes they said this) Ps3 has no games Ps3 will do a dreamcast Ps3 software support will be cut They backed the wrong horse back then and they backed the wrong one this gen and now it looks like theve backed the wrong one again....
Father exactly, the amount of crap they pushed out and it was by Microsoft. 6million RROD'S. later. Yet they still go with Microsoft. I cannot work people out. If you buy a TV and it breaks 3 times, anyone with a brain does not buy the same brand.lol.
Its important for the gamers to continue to support both consoles in order to continue the competition between the two platforms. This make them work harder for the gamers in advancing features and innovation.
Bulls**t. Ignoring that MS have bowed out against Sony in favor of streaming and subscription services, an easy win against DOA Stadia, mobile gaming mentality continues to creep into the console market as publishers push for both $70 games and microtransactions.
I feel like scalpers beat the consumers at the console war for this year's launch.
Silly article. Console war is the term used to represent the competition in the console market. No different then the existing competition in sports or graphic cards or any other area. Console wars end the moment there is only one console standing...and in that case the consumers will likely be screwed. Console wars should never end just as sports competitions shouldn't.
I do truly agree. I haven't been this excited for a next gen consoles since the Xbox 360 era. I have been following all the news leading up to these consoles now for a year, listening to podcasts, going to websites, watching the showcases, reading fanboy wars back and forth. This has been a fun cycle, can't wait to get my hands on them, not to mention can't believe i was able to get a hold of a 3090 FTW3 Ultra yesterday. Times are bright even in the darkest of times. Hope everybody is as excited as me, good gaming to all. Now comes the fun times of where the hell we are going to fit these things in our entertainment units.... LOL.
It's over with Sony's victory as usual.
Its over until MS can claim to be winning it.
"The Console War is Over. Consumers Won." Thanks to PS4 (and to some degree Switch) this is true.
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