Microsoft's Xbox still hasn't fully shaken off the dreaded "RROD" defect with the Xbox 360, despite every Xbox since then having rather good cooling. How well does the super-powered 12TF Xbox Series X fare? Pretty damn well actually.
That's fantastic news. ~35°C is surprisingly cool for a gaming machine. Although the noise level (which isn't mentioned) does concern me.
So we believe an obvious microsoft source that the console is cool. Hmmm ... Very suspect. And very paid for. Presentation
Why would they lie about it when the console will be in the hands of everyone in a few weeks? This would cause them nothing but credibility issues and a PR nightmare for Microsoft if they were to lie.
@ColeMacGrath "Why would they lie about it when the console will be in the hands of everyone in a few weeks?" I'm not calling they are lying here but were you just born when the RRoD breakout happened? They freakin lied and denied about it when the consoles were already in millions of homes and failing in huge numbers.
Why are you bringing up an issue that occurred last generation though and was led by a different Xbox head? This is a different subject and the 360's RRoD history isn't applicable to what we're seeing here.
Because he wants to point out that they have lied before obviously.
@badz149: If it was an RROD level problem, there is no way they would have given units out to media and youtubers.
@Badz149 In a few weeks that would be TWO generations ago the RROD happened, I very much doubt they are going to make the same mistake again, try harder try hard.
Well everyone Sony has released about the PS5 has been direct from them, so are you saying we should be suspicious of them too? Cmon mate, the console is in the hands of hundreds of journalists who are also testing it, so it’s unlikely there’s any smoke and mirror practices going on. This rumour was bs from the start, but because it’s Xbox everybody chose to believe it. Yet when any negative rumours come out about the PS5, it’s 100% fake. Can’t have it both ways.
Did you believe the controlled environment PS5 temps?
I don't think the console is overheating. The design is made to intake and push cold air from the bottom of the console (when standing like a monolith), and blow hot air out the top. RRoD was more due to cheaply made and rushed consoles also skimming on coolant. I don't see that here. The issue is the Series X and probably to a lesser extent the Series S, literally blow their heat right straight into the air where it easily becomes noticeable, compared to almost all other consoles where they blow heat behind them away from gamers. So if you put your hand over the Series X and it's standing up, you will definitely feel the warm air blowing out, almost like an electric heater. The Series S uses less power, but if it produces similar heat its blows the same as the Series X if the Series S is laying down, or straight at you if it's standing up (a true electric heater). I feel these things are being slightly blown out of proportion, however, it does show that these are clearly not consumer forward design choices, as this shouldn't even be a PR talking point that MS should have to face if they thought about this in the design phase.
ColeMaGrath what noise level?..Every Series X review Ive seen said it was a very quiet machine. https://www.techradar.com/n... TheScotsman, multiple sources have tested the heat Series X is cooler than Xbox One, Xbox One X AND Ps4pro. https://www.trustedreviews.... Why make uniformed statements that are very easy to find answers for?...Google is your friend.
“Why would they lie?” Because they did with the 360 while knowing from the beginning that the console was faulty? 🤷🏻♀️ They also had the gaming friends downplay the issue for a year until faced with either recall or add a warranty that would cover the KNOWN production timeline of faulty products. Ie three years.
Not just MS has been saying it. There you have it: https://www.eurogamer.net/a...
You have trust issues which is subjective and opinionated at heart, " were you born ? " phrase on 7th gen time doesn't qualify that you aged well in this industry.
35? My room gets hotter than that. Ahh the tropics.
And that's under full load. On standby it's much lower.
https://youtu.be/n5eXwMCa3K... 45 Celsius vertical 51 Celsius horizontal 56 Celsius inside cabinet or “box” lol
Never put a console in a cabinet
He mentionned it's a prototype... 40 sounds good to me for the final product. But Jin_Sakai will never stop... Probably the biggest ps fanboy on this site. Have a break man And by the way your dear ps4 pro is reaching 60...not inside cabinet
Windows central reported it so don't drink the cool aid other sources have stated in the 50s which is still perfectly acceptable and completely normal
Running current gen games. Let wait for truly nextgen games using rt and full power. Lucky Microsoft that seems like st least 2 year lol
So much wrong with this so-called test. 1. There's no mention of the amount of time spent testing 2. No mention of the area of the game they tested (for all we know they could have sat idle in the menu or AFK in game) 3. No mention of the expansion slot while in standby mode, which is the spot that started this whole temperature debate. 4. They test the base PS4, with a different game (and don't mention the area tested - could have easily been a heavy load area, given their propensity for making PS look bad). Fair comparison would have been Monster Hunter on the PS4 Pro (they don't touch the base Xbox One in their testing) in the exact same game area. 5. The only temperature they cite with regards to the PS4 was the air vents, but then don't justify it like their brief mention of the vent temperature on the Series X (they also didn't specify what that temperature was).
The guy from windowscentral has been caught lying loads of times. He’s even the one who tried to spread the rumour of ps5 overheating
This youtuber measured around 60C with Gears 5. https://youtu.be/UK0jIkEpFh... RDR 2 near 50C https://tweakers.net/review... But let's wait for real next-gen games.
Actually it got up to 56C on another game with more demanding settings. 56C is still not bad regardless. Another site ran tests and got up to about 56C as well. Try reading next time and not just posting out of context! Also the room they were testing in was 18C. That's fairly cool. So this is not entirely accurate as many rooms will not be a cool 18C. To be fair they said PS4 was running about 60C for some comparison!
"To be fair they said PS4 was running about 60C for some comparison!" Not a fair comparison because the temps they cited for the xbox was the body temp. The temp they cited on the PS4 was the air vents.
So it's MS trying to make annother jet
The PS5 was tested as well. It runs at a whopping 3° hotter 🤣 It's safe to say that heat will not be an issue this generation.
It runs cooler than some other devices
Based on Microsoft, yes.
I was mocking the results of the article but forgot to add the sarcasm symbol because my phone is playing up
Multiple sources have tested the heat Series X is cooler than Xbox One, Xbox One X, AND Ps4pro. https://www.trustedreviews....
What bullshit! Normal person here on n4g, with a little brain can't believe 25*c standby, 35*c running 1800p 60fps monster hunter. And on top of that crap. Ps4 pro runs 60*c Give me a brake. O and top that...let's put the console in 18*c room. Who plays games outside? Omg I have to edit another one If it is 35...it's lower than your body temperature...so it's cooler to the touch while 1800p 60 Unbelievable....crap!
They mentioned it's the base PS4 not the Pro model. And my OG PS4 also was warm to the touch in graphics-intensive games. Also it doesn't have to be above 60 degrees to run 1800p. There are already PC setups that run at around the same level as XSX..
And they are not 35. Your body temperature is 36.5. Everything you touch and it's warm is probably 45. Toasty is 60 to touch. Beyond it burns. Problem here isn't heat...it is board flexing, which console manufacturers figured that out...due to...well...billion dollar mistakes. And board flexing hardware failures occur from years of use...on, off on off. This test is crap, and heat from console doesn't mean anything...now. It will show design success after years of reliable use.
People are over analyzing both consoles way to much. They are just SFF PC's in a case. It gets hot ok, they didn't build it so it would over heat, they tested the shit out of it. Just like every other PC or console. They get hot...ok. PC CPUs can can be in the 70's or even 80c and that's fine. If I was to buy either one I could give 2 shits about any of this and just be concerned with the games. Shit I thought I was bad on PC parts going over them but damn, wha'ts next, I suppose you want to know what type of plastic it was made from and the chemical make-up LOL. I would not be surprised if they wrote about it...
If it gets them clicks, they will. 😆
The black of the console is blacker than the past xboxes and even blacker than the ps4... 🤣🤣😂nex t article
I actually think that due to the high rate of failure of the 360-they actually are careful when it comes to heat management. I never had a problem with the xbone. Over heating is hopefully a past issue that all console makers are aware these days.
My bone used to get pretty warm but I never had any problems, my x can warm me up as well.
The original fat PS3 is an actual heater.
After installing custom firmware on my launch 20gb PS3 I found out it runs in the 80c-90c territory which is insane. Setting the fan profile keeps it below 65c.
people disagreeing with this because it doesnt suit their anti xbox narrative xD
I know. 😅 It makes business sense too since that fiasco cost them $1 billion plus bad publicity. I also had the ylod on PS3 so I think Sony learned it’s lesson too-hence liquid metal on PS5 (and the noisy ps4). So heat isn’t an afterthought anymore-hopefully.
All good news for me, I’ve preordered already and don’t really fancy wasting money. Backwards compatible games shouldn’t really tax the system much, so I think it’s interesting that it gets as hot as the BASE PS4. The PS4 was pushing games that were made to push its limits. For example my PS4 Pro is silent playing Tekken but ramps up playing Red Dead. For the Series X to ramp up on ANY last gen game and put out the heat a last gen working at its hardest is interesting. We have yet to see a Series X running a Series X game so it would be interesting to see how hot it gets when it’s actually put to task.
To be fair the series X is also using its muscle to power “old games” to the absolute max that it can. Double the frame rate in most games and using its hardware to up resolution and HDR. It’s not just giving you same experience as a XB1. Also I don’t think next gen games are going to be mindblowingly different from what we play today. More detail, resolution, and frames, quicker loading is what next gen will improve on and series X is doing the exact same thing with your current library.
That’s true, it isn’t one to one and series X is definitely putting in more seasoning, but it’s still a theoretical 12 tf system running a game made to push a 2 tf system. Those upgrades are not THAT expensive. Now that I slept on it though I wonder if it’s heat output is partially because it’s always maxed clock speed. It can’t scale back for task that aren’t calling for the extra juice. I guess time will tell.
The thing is, if this is just fan wagging, or worse, MS setting things up so launch sales are healthy, what could just as well be another red ring incident is just going to blow up in their face. Especially if all these demo models they've released ahead of time were modded so as not to generate as much head as early/launch might. Then again, if there is a heat issue and its only launch systems, systems they couldn't fix before getting them out to market, they could face no backlash. Nothing lasting at least.
You do know the red ring incident was fixed in that era why are we still talking about it almost 13 years later like they don't know how not to design the same flawed cooling system? If a disaster like that ever happens again as long as they are willing to repair your console I don't see the reason for a backlash. Personally I got a 360 in 2008 and ran into the red ring issue probably a year or 2 later, sent it off and the one I received was used non stop until a couple years ago when I didn't have much of a use for it anymore. I would be more upset over the 360's disc drive destroying discs, now that's a disaster that deserved more outrage during that generation.
No. On this website you must crap on Microsoft.
35c is rubbish wait till real world tests
This is running games fine, but how long did they run. 1 hour ? 5 minutes ? That is the crux. My tv runs at * means nothing compared to my tv at * after 3 hours. Did I missread? Also temperature is only part of the solution, since design will be key. Boards bend stuff like that we can only understand a few years in. Same with the Ps5 so i will wait first. This test is pretty useless without a timeframe and feels desperate to change perceptions before launch... I get it. Windows central to be unbiased... no chance.
Windows central ran tests? Oh, I'm sure that data will be valuable.
Austin ran a heat test and had similar results
People seem disappointed its not over heating or really hot. When I got my X1X, I loved the quite and cool operation of it. Yes, if you go stick your hand over the vent port in the back, it would be hot, but not brand you with grid marks cause it burned you. I am curious on the PS5 when I go to put it in a cabinet. If it pulls all the air from the front and exhaust all from the back, I will have to make some cabinet adjustments. For now, I already have my spot for the XSX.
It obviously runs hot with all that power it's bound to happen
But they couldn't test it with a game that would actually push the console to it's limits? This test is worthless.
35 (95) is the opposite of frosty and imagine the fan noise while running legit next gen games.
Lol windowscentar.com test microsoft console this is legal AF,\s!
pretty frosty? gosh, what is warm to you then lol i saw some videos showcasing just that and let me tell you, that fan is fairly noisy tbf
i’m excited for the new gen of consoles, but this is exactly why i wait half a year or more before getting on board with it. you need a few good weeks or months to actually see any major, widespread issues.
Its ok though, as the console has limited use, this mitigates any thermal issues entirely.
There has been so many tests of the series x temperature that go against all the recent fake news about the heat, and you guys still cant accept it? Haha. No, microsoft must be paying people to make videos and lie about the heat of their console! Do the die-hard sony fans that think this really believe microsoft would allow something like that to happen after the rrod fiasco? (which happened 15 YEARS AGO btw). Also after having released another console between then and now that never had that issue either. You guys need to get a grip and go and play all those games you talk about so much.
That is very awesome.
Brought to you by windows central.com 😂... OK.
Time will tell when the system is out in the wild, being used for hours and hours. The same applies for ps5. Prolonged use will be the test.