Demon's Souls Remake Listed For PS4 By Hungarian Retailer

Demon's Souls Remake is a PS5 launch exclusive that will be out on November 12, 2020. It has been listed for PS4 by a Hungarian retailer.

[Gamerking82]

if this is true then i see no reason whatsoever to upgrade to next gen for at least another year.

[lukasmain]

I agree in a sense. But the load times alone for me is enough personally. I mean Hitman 3 and Assassin's Creed Valhalla load times on current gen consoles will be terribly slow. I just can't stand them anymore. I NEED next gen speed and load times. But I fully understand, that if this 'rumor' is true, that you would prefer to wait a while.

[Gamerking82]

Oh yes dont get me wrong the load times will be amazing but not worth £449 here in UK just for the same ps4 games with faster load times. Now when the true next gen only PS5 games start coming then it will be worth it. I think they have rushed too quickly into this gen, when lets be honest its not going to be a great differnce like say From PS1 to PS2 to PS3.

[Elda]

Assassin's Creed:Odyssey load times were atrocious,anywhere between 45 to 100 seconds.

[TheEroica]

500 dollars.... And "load times" is the justification? C'mon... Just say you love new tech and though it makes little sense to have a day 1 console you want it anyway.

[bouzebbal]

Nice, Sony support to previous gen consoles is great!!
You get a full blown next gen title on PS5 and still can be played on PS4.. The gameplay shown was next gen, no one can deny that.. If you prefer to play interior version on PS4 and save money then cool.. Whether you pick PS5 day one or a few months later won't change much

[itsmebryan]

Reduced load times are worth $500 to you?

[GamingSinceForever]

With the way these pre-orders and stock is being handled you may not have a choice but to wait a year. Lol!

[Shane Kim]

It never is.

[Sunny12345]

If given an option to play game on a better system, why not take that option. As the system is future proof as well. Though if demon souls is the only reason for you to buy ps5 then Its upto you. I still have my demon souls on ps3, doesnt mean I won't upgrade.

[Grave]

Totally agree. PS5 is a day 1 buy for Demon's Souls. If it's on PS4 I get it for that and wait.

[TheEroica]

Lol absolutely... I'll let y'all beta test for me. Thanks in advance.

[Eidolon]

Unless you love smoother framerates and better graphics for your 4K TV?

[Bateekh]

ill upgrade anyway cuz i hate HDD. I dont want any old ass obsolete tech from an era long gone. Its shameful to have HDD in the home.

[RedDevils]

You might as well stick with pc and upgrade gradually as you need to.

[Jin_Sakai]

“if this is true then i see no reason whatsoever to upgrade to next gen for at least another year.“

I’d rather have incredibly fast loading times, better visuals, and 60fps. That’s reason enough for me to upgrade.

[gravedigger]

Wasn't Sony stated otherwise a month ago that Demon's won't be on PS4?

[philm87]

Massively improved graphics on non PS5 exclusives as well. The price of the PS5 won't drop much for a long long time, £450/$500 is an absolute steal for the spec.

[Binarycode]

Faster load times, better graphics, 60fps over 30fps,

But i'm not going PS5 until next year anyway.

got enough going on atm, lol but will get a ps5 in the new year.

[Abracadabra]

Demon's Souls Remake PS4 is expected. Didn't Sony say something about their first party exclusives being available on the PS4 and PS5 in the near future.
Sony would be pretty dumb if they ignored the 100+ million players on the PS4... and there will likely be a PC version in a year or two.

[CrimsonWing69]

Dude, I can’t agree with you more.

[BigBosss]

I hope its not true

[morganfell]

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. One thing is for sure, if you wanted people to visit your retail site then this is genius marketing.

[lukasmain]

It is most likely an error. If it was going to be a PS4 game at any point, then it would have been announced at the same time as Horizon: Forbidden West and Miles Moralis when they were announced to be coming to PS4 also.

[morganfell]

I'm not really concerned at this point either way. We are in the generation crossover where these things always occur. The tell will come after the first full year. At least Sony didn't anchor themselves to a lower end system in the next generation. And that is an issue. Even a mid gen refresh does not free you from that error.

[ThereGoThatManQ]

People love to have amnesia of previous gens like this isn’t normal even if it was true....

People can’t buy so they find excuses to fit their ego.

Look at Xbox>X360 fight night.

If that doesn’t show you Gens matter idk what will

[Juancho51]

hit the nail on the head. People do anything for publicity...may be nothing to this but vapor.

[alb1899]

Why?
More people will have access to the game.

[SinisterKieran]

because people don't upgrade to next gen for cross gen games. its also very misleading that they haven't already got it listed for both ps4 and ps5.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

It being cross gen will affect the PS5 version how exactly? The game looks incredible.

[Obscure_Observer]

"I hope its not true"

Probably not. Lots of people has placed PS5 pre orders because of this game.

[PurpHerbison]

I don't know what the hell else they would be preordering for.

[BLUEKNIFE]

Why not?

[OB1Biker]

Probably fake or mistake. The medium was also listed for xb1 and it s actually not.

[isarai]

After HFW and Spiderman being a cross gen, aswell as Ratchet being "launch window" i went from really wanting one at launch to casually trying to nab a preorder but fine with waiting. If this is true then i'm just straight up waiting till we get more next gen only games.

[Saigon]

Honestly think it is a mistake; no other website/retailer has this listing. This happens from time to time and honestly shouldn't be news.

You can search or google and notice no listing, btw and only listed for PS5 on Sony main page where SMMM is listed for both

[SpinalRemains138]

I hear you. Though I'd be very surprised if it is both consoles.

[RememberThe357]

Me too. I was hyped for the new consoles, now I can't get myself to even check for preorders. I'll wait for PS5 and I'm more and more thinking of getting a solid prebuilt PC.

[BillyG0AT]

Yay generations

[S2Killinit]

Hungarian retailer? Is that you?

[BillyG0AT]

what

[Kaze88]

"Hungarian retailer? Is that you?"

Goat, picture of a werewolf hairy guy. must be. lol.

[jBlakeeper]

I really hope this isn’t true as it would be very ill practice on Sony’s part. It would make them look very deceptive and they would lose major brownie points from me.

[FlavorLav01]

But you’ll still play one version or the other though, right? “Lost brownie points” I’ll give you, no excuses. They should have mentioned this before, however we’re still getting some of the best games around made by arguably one of if not the best publisher of all time. At this point, After Ghosts, God of War, Spider-Man, LOU2, Dreams, Horizon, all just this gen,..they know what they’re doing. Guaranteed the enhancements will still redefine these new titles making them well worth the jump. Especially the way I go dying like a noob at every game for a bit, I’m gonna need that SSD Haha

[JEECE]

Oh no

[Aussiesummer]

I don't think "pc and other consoles" was armistice at all, Sony just back peddled. They haven't been very transparent about this new gen and is weird, I can only put it down to arrogance. We shall see what comes of it all.

[NEXUS-6]

What will come of it is business as usual - are you really going with a Hungarian retailer?

[generic-user-name]

Don't you think they'd have announced that when they announced Horizon and Miles Morales?

[Teflon02]

Clearly an assumption by the retailer since the others were cross gen. Alot of ppl assumed it was cross gen too initially so it wouldn't surprise me they assume it. But Yeah, they'd have definitely announced it then. With the backlash over it, I doubt they'd add this to the list now lol.

[lukasmain]

EXACTLY. It would have been announced as also coming to ps4 at the same time as Horizon: Forbidden West and Miles Moralis.

[isarai]

That's what i'm thinking, that this is likely just an error in the retailer's part, guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[ziggurcat]

Yes. They would have made that known when they showed the game at their last event.

[RazzerRedux]

Assuming this is true.....I don't get it. Why not be upfront about the game being cross gen? Why hide it? This is just stupid.

[S2Killinit]

Assuming the hungarian retailer is correct you mean?

[RazzerRedux]

Yes, that is the assumption. Sony needs to start showing some consistency. For that reason, I hope this isn't true.

[NEXUS-6]

They hit the mistake pretty hard when it was made. And there's no reason not to say DS is cross-gen at the same time you announce SM and HFW.

All I know is as of right now, nothing looks better than DS PS5 on either next gen console.

[RazzerRedux]

"And there's no reason not to say DS is cross-gen at the same time you announce SM and HFW."

You wouldn't think so. Of course, there is no reason not to announce both those games as cross gen from the very beginning. Agreed on DS. Looks awesome regardless.

[NXFather]

Imo they want to move those units first then backend them bluefaces.

[DJStotty]

"I don't get it. Why not be upfront about the game being cross gen? Why hide it?"

Because they are using it as a selling point for PS5 by not announcing them as cross-gen.

And the Sony fanbase is lapping it up.

[RazzerRedux]

Well, you lap up whatever Microsoft gives you so don't really see how you can talk.

[ziggurcat]

This is fake. Sony has already, quite clearly, stated that Demon's Souls was PS5 only.

[Christopher]

Hope it's not true. Please move on from the current generation. I will say that the "PS4 header" used seems to be made by the Hungarian site and not an actual box graphic, so some potential for it not being true. But, honestly, after hearing other games go cross-gen, I wouldn't be surprised.

[outsider1624]

I couldn't agree more. Spiderman i could actually understand...but HFW was shocking to me. Bloody hell i hope this isn't true for Demon's Souls.

I don't get it..does Sony not want to sell the PS5? What the heck are they doing?

[lukasmain]

I honestly beleive that if Demon's Souls was cross-gen then they would have announced it exactly the same time when they announced Horizon Forbidden West and Miles Moralis was also coming to PS4.

[ziggurcat]

"I honestly beleive that if Demon's Souls was cross-gen then they would have announced it exactly the same time"

Yeah, they wouldn't just spring it on everyone with 3 weeks to go. That information would have been known at the time they announced the game. Unfortunately, they goofed by having that "pc and other consoles" thing show up by mistake, and everyone's brains are still apparently locked onto that mistake.

[ziggurcat]

Retailers use placeholders all the time, and I don't think that this is any different.

Edit: and someone mentioned that, if I am not mistaken, the same retailer lists the PS5 supporting PS3, 2, and 1 BC... which we all know is not true at all.

[oldenjon]

It's gotta be a mistake. Sony has been forthcoming about the other cross-get titles. Demon's Souls is meant to be a graphical benchmark for the PS5 from what I've heard. Concurrent PS4 development would hinder that

[Si-Fly]

It still will be a graphical benchmark, there’s no way a PS4 Pro version is going to be bringing ray tracing or the level of detail seen in the presentation to the table.

Not sure why anybody is surprised about this or cares, the best place to play it will be PS5.

[nickanasty206]

PS4 has too large of a base for Sony to resist its money grab. That is really what is driving all of this. People think Microsoft is all power hungry and has been made fun of several times for having a seamless transfer to next gen and not having true "next gen" games, but really what this amounts to is no different than what PC users have had all along. Several different settings that allow lower powered hardware to drive a game. Sony irresistibly can't count on that many PS5s being available due to shortages, so they want to make the money off of the generation with the largest user base and they know it. PS5 simply doesn't have the user base with the hardware shortage. I suppose this is maybe one of the downfalls of having such a massive user base without readily available hardware to meet the demand of the masses.

[LuckyDuck12]

^This.

[nickanasty206]

Don't understand the down votes here, the next gen games are still made with Next-Gen in mind. Look at how amazing Demon Souls looks on PS5, you truly get something special there, clearly even if this does come out to PS4, its not the best way to play the game and this is what people should really be excited about, better performance and better game on the Next-Gen consoles. They still get a Next-Gen experience and those playing on PS4 will still be able to play a dumbed down version of it. Its a win, win.

[XxSPIDEYxX]

People really do believe everything they read on the internet.

[jznrpg]

It’s just Xbox people hoping because they have nothing at launch

[Rebel_Scum]

Come on man this is Hungary. Seems legit.

/s

[Imortus_san]

If this is true is there any PS5 exclusives left? Damm Sony, you even suprised me.

[Ausbo]

“We believe in generations”

[RazzerRedux]

“We believe in generations-ish”

[Shane Kim]

Don't get why people are upset? Did the showcase of this game suddenly become uglier? The game looks stunning even if it is cross gen.

[Christopher]

Looks aren't everything. There are core concepts to gameplay that can evolve now with the greater processing of new consoles. Being tied to older hardware can hold that back. I'd rather the full potential be realized than anything potentially being held back.

This is one reason I'm disappointed in the news of Horizon Forbidden West being cross-gen, now I know the open-world elements and potential won't be truly next-generation.

[ziggurcat]

Horizon was built from the ground up for PS5, so I don't think there's anything being held back by the PS4 version.

[Christopher]

@ziggurcat: That only tells me that what they're building from the ground up for PS5 isn't changing anything from last generation capabilities. If it works on PS4, then it's not really utilizing next-gen potential. They're not building two completely different games here. It'll look and load much better on PS5, that's for sure, but I was hoping to see some gameplay elements that just aren't capable on PS4, similar to R&C using almost instant area loads when teleporting.

Edit: FYI, this includes AI potential and variety/number of enemy potential being held back here as well. CPU kind of vital for advancing that past last-generation capabilities.

[ziggurcat]

What that tells me is that whatever functionality is in the PS5 version of the game isn't being held back by the PS4 version.

And to be fair, no first gen game on a new system utilizes the full potential of the new hardware.

[Sirk7x]

Game design is the thing that isn't changing. When some of the most demanding titles are being (cleverly) ported to Switch, that shows that things like AI aren't what devs are putting their time into. There are core pieces to game design that are pretty much a mainstay in the industry now, for better or worse. People know how to use them, and know that they sell. You're assuming that many devs have all these new and creative ideas that they would know how to impliment. This may just be not true at all for the moment. When is the last time you played a game and had the thought "Wow, I've never really seen this before"?

[Christopher]

***You're assuming that many devs have all these new and creative ideas that they would know how to impliment. This may just be not true at all for the moment. When is the last time you played a game and had the thought "Wow, I've never really seen this before"?***

They've had them, but they've cut them back due to lack of power.

Days Gone had their swarms that they dumbed down a ton because they couldn't deliver on the CPU like they showed originally (AI in general got cut back massively in it).

Crackdown 3 world destruction in SP mode would be possible on modern consoles as well as enough memory to process and recall destruction in a persistent manner.

Division 2 has much better AI, it really does. It could still be vastly improved upon so that some enemies aren't over utilized just to continue the concept of bullet sponges.

Some things can be built upon, such as the use of the nemesis system in a world building game.

Devs are thinking of things, but hardware has held them back. It is there.

[throne]

some are upset others mostly trying to use this as fanboy console war ammo.....regardless they haven't announced it coming to ps4 officially

[ziggurcat]

They would have done so at the same time as the other games.

[Nacho_Z]

I wouldn't say I was upset but I do think it'd be dodgy to position DS as the best exclusive launch title for PS5, get a load of preorders for the console then at the last minute quietly announce that it was also available for PS4. It'd be a low key con imo.

[ArthriticPowers]

@Christopher, spot on with the CPU and AI. I also believe the SSD will open up new possibilities that haven't even yet been fully conceptualized as the next gen progresses. Higher FPS/res and better lighting is awesome and all (and enough for me to invest in a couple of new consoles) but its the before mentioned possibilities and changes in development methods that has me really excited for next gen. Unfortunately that may be 12-24mths out still.

[Unknown_Gamer5794]

I think this is the first time I've seen a rumor mill generated by a Hungarian retailer. I've seen Italian, Spanish and even Romanian retailers at the center of stuff like this, but not Hungarian. Why aren't I playing Bingo with this?

[Petebloodyonion]

Oops...
When there's smoke there's usually fire
First, there was the supposed mistake in the trailer about the game coming to other console and now this.

[drunkenspy007]

I went with a PS4 last gen because of Bloodborne. Since DS is the only game I am interested in on launch, maybe I don't need a new system just to play it.

[mrsolidsteel20]

Shouldn’t they have announced this already so ppl can preorder the game now?

[Agito1987]

With sonys recent track record this would not surprise me. Makes financial sense. But also doubles down the fact they just keep lying to win people over.

[Popsicle]

Likely a mistake. I have this game on pre-order for the PS5 and there was no PS4 option. If there was a planned PS4 release it would likely have been available for pre-order at the same time similarly to how one can pre-order Miles Morales for PS4 now. There is no good reason on Sony's behalf for them not to market the PS4 version at the same time as the PS5 version considering there is a cost to marketing and the PS4 has such a large install base that there is no sense to waiting on selling copies. While this could be true, I have my doubts.

[SpinalRemains138]

Smart money points toward error.

[Einhander1971]

Personally I think its a miss print, quite sure by now we would of seen ps4 preorders for this by now like the other titles.

[akaFullMetal]

Doubt.....

If this was true, Sony would of announced already and clarified like all their other announcements like Miles being cross gen, HZW cross gen, Sackboy cross gen and FF16 being on PC mistake.

[ziggurcat]

FF16 is going to PC - the mistake was this game mistakenly having the "PC and other consoles" in the trailer.

[chicken_in_the_corn]

Not surprised in the slightest. I've actually expected this since the PS4 versions of Sackboy, Horizon and Spider-man were announced. I'm interested in seeing how the graphics look as this is one of very few games that actually looks next gen

[Plagasx]

Lol, why even bother with Next gen now. Pointless.

[mkis007]

Sony already confirmed it was ps5 only after their trailer mistake.

[PowerPlayaaa]

FFS. You guys really think that game is Crossgen. Do you even have eyes? Have you seen the gameplay?
Nothing comes close to that game when we are talking about PURE Graphics. That's probably the most visually impressive game ATM. ALL platforms. You can even see that the game is native next gen only. That shit CAN'T be done on current gen. Impossible. If you really consider it to be crossgen. Then you really are deluded. Cmon now.

[Sirk7x]

The way game design works now, you can scale back anything. This is still a remake of a PS3 game, regardless of how good it looks. Reduce resolution/use dynamic, reduce lighting, reduce texture quality, etc. If you had showed someone Last of Us 2 graphics at the beginning of PS4 gen, people probably wouldn't have believed it was running in real time at all.

[shauzy]

ohooh ps hiding stuff

[NextGenCeo]

Playstation 4 cannot hit the what every they show on trailer. So this news is not the truth. Probably mistake.

[frostypants]

It's called a typo.

[LMosche]

Use your brain. A PS4 can't possibly run that. A PC would have issues too.

[philm87]

Clearly a mistake.
Can really tell from these comments who managed to get a PS5 preorder and who didn't. Seemed pretty easy to get a preorder in the UK, just needed to sign up to retailers info emails and they told you exactly when the preorders were going online.

[crazyh0rse]

that's awesome more people can play the game

[qiuqiu]

iIt is a really outstanding performance game

[mrsolidsteel20]

Final comment on this matter, if this turns out to be true, Sony deserves to be ridicule for not being up front about this. They’re only hurting themselves in the long run by saying one thing and doing another, the same shit MS is getting crucify for.

Also, (again if this turns out to be true) this is nothing new, they will always be cross gen titles during the early years of the new systems. From a business standpoint it makes sense, regardless of what some fanboy what’s Sony to do with the PS5 you just can’t leave behind 120 mil PS4 out there, especially when you don’t have one sell for the PS5 yet. But still this doesn’t erase the fact of Sony being misleading if this turns out to be true.

[DJStotty]

That is another so called "next-gen" exclusive scratched off the list.

[CrimsonWing69]

I love buying a next-gen console to play games that are on current-gen. It makes buying a new console that much more special. Yes, I’m being sarcastic as f**k!

[Mister_G]

Probably a mistake.

[PurpHerbison]

This would be cool to an extent but I doubt it would be nice. They won't make the necessary changes to get the game working at 60fps on PS4 and I refuse to play another subpar 30fps souls game.

[chiefJohn117]

Waiting a year will likely save you $100, and more next Gen games will be out.

[averagejoe26]

This same retailer also listed TLOU2 for Switch so...yea. Definitely not true.