Sony has really made it easy to expand the storage for their consoles since the PS3. good to see that with the PS5, it's going to be just as easily accessed as the PS3 and PS4, and the M.2 installation is just like how you would do on PC despite the high spec requirement for the 3rd party NVMe.
MS on the other hand, despite using average PCIe gen3 class speed SSD, chose to use overpriced propriety format to nickel and dime its fanbase. shame
I watched it again and it seems to be pretty easy to retrofit a digital edition into a disc edition. Just need the drive and the appropriate plate. What I couldnt see is how the drive plugs into the mainboard. There was a little cable that was first unplugged before the rest of the tear down so that must be how.
And i love that attention to detail regarding the stand and where to put the mounting screw and plug.
I'm sure Sony in all their experience had tested 3rd party LM pastes before deciding on this solution. That said the whole LM paste enclosure and massive heatsink + fan design, i.e thermal design, is what took 2 years to develop, not just picking the LM paste.
Speaking of the heatsink - I think I never saw a bigger one, in consoles at least, which shows how seriously Sony took thermals and noise this time around. I'd be very surprised if the ps5 isn't the most cool and quiet console ever.
Look at that heatsink while remembering all the FUD about the variable clock speeds when things start running hot and how it would cripple PS5's performance... Looks like we'll be running at 100% far more often than not.
Glad to see it. The PS5 isn't big for the sake of being big. That heatsink is going to help keep the unit cool and quiet. That fan too. Wow, it is large.
Love the SSD placement. Easy to get to. Anyone who knows how a screwdriver works should be able to install an SSD in that unit.
Agreed. I think the dual-position stand and the user accessible vacuum holes to remove dust are really great consumer-oriented features as well. The panels being so easy to remove is a nice touch.Very well thought out design, and looks awesome too
I agree! That damn heatsink is a monster! And the Depth of that fan!? Some people see "120mm" fan and think no big deal, but hot damn that boy is thick!!
I do agree that having the m.2 easy to get to is paramount. Those of is that build computers or tinker with electronics are usually the only ones that feel confident swapping drives or tearing things apart, but I'm sure even my wife could do this. Kudos for ease of access and installation. Nov 12th hurry up already!!!!
Razzer - I'm worried about the heat dissipation of the user installed NVME. I didn't see any heat sink, it may get residual air flow from the fans. I'm sure Sony know what they're doing though.
Yep - plenty of depth there, not sure on the width though. If the heat sinks are like the EK ones that would be fine, but an Auros drive may cause problems. Just a thought.
Why do you guys think SSD's need heatsinks? I have been using a Samsung EVO that sits right under my GPU and I have never had any kind of heat issues. (And I have used things like HWmontior that shows temps frequently)
I see this topic come up all the time, SSD's don't really generate a lot of heat even under load. The heat sinks you see on a lot of SSD's are just gimmicks like putting a "gaming" label on a router.
Factually SSD's on average run at a lower operating temperature than mechanical drives that generate heat spinning the platters.
I'm not saying heatsinks are completely necessary. Just making the observation that a lot of newer SSDs tend to have heatsinks. We will have to wait for Sony to announced their certified line of third party to know what is required for PS5.
@Razzer you’ll be surprised of how many people can’t screw and end up with the wrong screwdriver 😂 / 🌽ny JK I was amazed of how small the SSD are compared to how big the heat sink and fan are. 😱🤯
I agree on the custom side panels but do you think they want to go that route again? I have several of the ps4 bay covers and just like 360 plates, thwy are cool to collect.
They only cheaped out on the PS4 because they had experts saying console gaming is dead mobile gaming is taking over and is the future and after the ps3, people might have believed that, fast forward 7 years console gaming is bigger than ever and is going nowhere soon so Sony has way more confidence this time around than they did with the PS4. Bring on next gen
Sony should sell really nice custom made covers that's a lot of extra revenue they can generate. System is well built but why we are surprised when did Sony ever not build their products with quality in mind. Their TV's last for decades too
Finally. This is what I've been waiting for. At a first glance, I like what I'm seeing. If those dust catchers actually work they'll save me a lot of effort to keep the console clean. I really like the big fan, especially the width of the fanblades. The heatsink is big which is good, although I don't fully understand the intended airflow yet, since the fan doesn't seem to be pushing/pulling air directly through the portion of the APU.
Speaking of which I might be wrong, but it looks like a pretty big SoC all things considered. I wonder how much die space the I/O complex takes up. Another possibility would be that some of the space is taken up by embedded static memory which would make sense, considering the RDNA2 cards will probably have something like that and it would help the PS5 to deal with potential memory bandwidth bottlenecks. On the other hand Sony would've probably already announced it if that was the case.
Liquid metal is a pleasent surprise. With copper heat sinks there shouldn't be a need to replace it since it barely reacts with copper, but in case it ever needs to be replaced, it should only be replaced with liquid metal.
The larger the heatsink the more heat that can be transferred from the chip to radiate the heat and get blown out of the system with the fan. This design is made to avoid the jet engine noise.
Hopefully. But wouldn't liquid metal drip to one side if you put the PS5 vertically? I don't know exactly how that works. Someone can explain the difference between liquid metal and thermal paste?
Same concern could be said for custom desktops that use it since they are usually in a vertical position. Liquid metal isn't like water. I don't know much about liquid metal but it basically adheres to the surface and when the system is pressed together, there wont be any flow of liquid metal.
Supposedly it has a insolating frame around the die and solid when the machine is off (one of the benefits I guess of that solution). There was a theory about how this is supposed to work. Its not just some random apply liquid metal and press cooler onto it. Some thought went into it how to do this right at assembly.
It's sealed and self contained. It's designed to absorb and disperse heat away from the GPU in conjunction with the fan and heat sink. It activates (becomes liquid), when the metal is heated to a certain temperature. The liquification of the metal is the process that absorbs and disperses heat. Think of it as condensation in a bubble. When water is heated, it evaporates and the vapor is trapped along the surface of the "bubble" and becomes liquid and as the heating continues, the condensation continues.
Gardenia, the Liquid metal is contained and the reason it's better then paste is because at the microscopic level, a heatsink is not smooth. It has tiny blemishes and where those occur the contact is not as good. Thermal paste helps a lot, but liquid metal improves on this much further and contact is better, thus cooling it down further.
Cool stuff! Holy crap that heatsink though 👀💦
Looks like its gonna be pretty chilly in there.
Built more like a freezer.