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What Are Reviews Good For

What Are Reviews Good For?

How do us consumers use the work of critics in their own decision making and why do they show such hostility to poor reviews?

Last weekend turned out to be an interesting one for those interested in the culture of game reviewing. Whilst Keith Stuart of the Guardian Gamesblog was questioning whether reviewers really cared about (or even understood) innovation when critiquing games, Edge-Online published a review that gave 'Resistance 2' a quite controversial but perhaps not surprising 6 out of 10.

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Why o why6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

and watch the cum fest.

chaosatom6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

Oh ok, so 8-player co-op wasn't innovative, that's has never been done on 360

And 60-player multiplayer, oh wait, that's not innovative at all, they wanted 100- player multiplayer.

And I wonder what they gave other shooters like Turok or Area 51, that fall short of Resistance 2? 1/10 or 2/10?

They were fed money, or they went into resistance already knowing what score they will give it.

I am betting that they are going into KILLZONE 2 already knowing what score they are going to give. And they will PEG it as hard as they can, for even most minor of things.

Gun_Senshi6042d ago

Gears of kill.switch and Halo are innovative!!!!

Amnesiac6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

Actually Halo was incredibly innovative but that's beside the point.

This article is retarded. Seems like these guys shouldn't write stuff that is going to get flamed if they can't take the heat. We don't care about their "response article" and their logic behind reviewing games, It's clear that logic SUCKS based on their utterly pathetic excuse for trying to rip R2, I mean, review R2....These pseudo-journalists need to GET OVER THEMSELVES

/rant

Sarcasm6042d ago

The biggest problem I have with that review is not the 6 out of 10. But it's friggin only like 8 paragraphs.

A game as big as Resistance 2 will not take just 8 paragraphs to describe. Even if the game totally sucked, you can talk a lot about it.

jaysquared6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

R2 on the 360 would be so much better! Seriously graphics gameplay and the online!

@below- You act like M$ can't put up dedicated servers to do that. Doesn't frontlines have up to 50 players online?

WeaseL6042d ago

lol @ R2 on the 360,
60 players playing on a P2P network = Epic Fail

Danja6042d ago

It bugs when I see ppl talk about how bad R2 is graphically , the game is not the best looking i've seen but trust me there were a few moments where my draws dropped because of how much things were going on screen at once the framerate was steady throughout the entire game pretty impressive game from a technical stand point.

Edge was either paid to give R2 or they're now pulling a Gamespot trying t get attention for all the wrong reasons.

If R2 is not that good then I guess something is wrong with me , cuz im seriously pumped for R3..and what they're gonna be able to achieve with that game..

Jdoki6042d ago

Edge gave Turok a 5/10 (the same score they gave Haze) and Area 51 a 4/10.

It's a travesty that R2 is rated close to those POS!

And yet Halo 3 was given 10/10 - what a joke that was. Halo 3 was an 8 all the way.

Jake11116042d ago

And I can honestly say with no fanboyism that the only game that I play now is RFOM2. The ONLINE rules!!

The single player was actually great (epic battles, giant bosses etc) and it definitely is one of the best I have played.

The score I agree with for RFOM2 is IGN's score of 9.5. It was definitely OUTSTANDING and worth the money.

GOW2 is fun. I couldnt see myself playing it over or chosing the online instead of RFOM2. It was fun though. Just not replayable...

Jake

InMyOpinion6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

That explains why they awarded LBP a perfect 10.

badz1496042d ago

LBP is too hell good of a game and nobody...I really mean nobody except blinds M$ fanboys or anything-PS3-related haters can downplay that game, hence the 10s accross the board! but, in R2 case, what happen when other people gave at least a solid 8 but EDGE is the only one giving it a lower-than-average 6?! that indicates that there is something terribly WRONG! - not with the game itself, but with the fvcking brain dead reviewer who reviewed the game! there are limits for being harsh but to go as far as saying that R2 is not innovative is indeed the sign of STUPIDITY! Halo3 got 10 from them but what warranted that? lagless 60-player online? 8-player separated story co-op? a god damn HUGE monsters? solid fps throughout the game with lots of things on the screen at once? oh, my appologize...only RESISTANCE 2 has those!! my point is, EDGE is DUMB!!

MNicholas6042d ago

Halo series
Gears series
Resistance series
MGS4 series

MNicholas6042d ago

without taking kickbacks (officially shown as "ad revenue"). Who said life's fair? Deal with it. Any smart business would do the same.

RememberThe3576042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

"Reviewing games is no easy task, speaking from experience, and finding that finely tuned tipping point where a review explores the critical and artistic merits of a title whilst still discussing its utility to the gamer is complex and ultimately impossible."

Only The Games does that really well, so obviously its not impossible.

If a small time blog can figure out how to review games in a helpful way, why can't the big time websites figure it out?

ultimolu6042d ago

11/11 confirmed.

Seriously.

PS3 FTW6042d ago

It's still a great game but..

It doesn't feel like R:FoM did!

R1 was so mysterious and creepy but R2 didn't have that. The competitive mode seems like they tried to conform it to other games out there like CoD4

PS3 FTW6042d ago

If you put R2 on 360 there would be advertisements everywhere stating the 60 player online and 8 player co-op and saying "only on Xbox 360. Now $199". The reviews would all be 9.5+ and saying how innovative and unique it is. The 360 fanboys would be touting "HAHA! Have fun with that Mario rip-off LittleBigPlanet! We've got REAL games!" (actually they already say that).

R2 was and is amazing. Every part of it is fun. If it was separated into 3 games I would pay $60 for the Campaign, Co-Op and Competitive. Other games only have 1 of those modes and are $60 but R2 has all 3 so it's like a 3 for 1 special.

BioShock - Campaign only - $60

Left 4 Dead - Co-Op only (who would play that alone since it's made specifically for Co-Op) - $60

SOCOM/WARHAWK - Multiplayer only - $40

R2 - Long Campaign - Highest relative players (8) in a separate Co-Op campaign - Highest relative players (60) in console Multiplayer - $60

Even if someone doesn't like R2 it still doesn't deserve anything below an 8.5 at the least. I hate Halo but I recognize that's it a good game so I give it a high-8 but it's still not deserving of the hype.

monfa6042d ago

"This leads on to Edge’s review of ‘Resistance 2’, which criticised the game largely for its lack of innovation and improvement since the franchise’s first instalment."

It is either a good or a bad game.
I never played the first one and would never know if they made improvements or not...

BattleAxe6042d ago

The idiot that wrote this article misses the point of a 6/10 review for a game like R2. A review is meant to be a guide to consumers as to whether a game is good or if it is bad.

When a game review site like Edge goes against the grain when universally the game is looked upon at the very least as being a good game, it usually means one of 2 things. Either you're trying to get hits on your website or you're biased due to either advertising dollars or just plain fanboyism.

Giving R2 a 6/10 review is basically saying that the game is a poor game. Everyone who has played the game knows that it isn't a poor game and frankly speaking, giving a 6/10 review is totally irresponsible especially when a Developer like Insomniac worked so hard to make this a great game. A review like this could potentially have a financial impact on the sales that Insomniac could have had before Edge put this review out to its loyal reader base.

Give poor reviews when they are deserved as in the case with DICE and their game BattleField: Bad Company. They released their game with all kinds of bugs, one online game mode and a mediocre single player campaign. To make matters worse, DICE's response to these bugs and lack of game modes has been slow if non existent. But yet you give a game like that a 7/10?

I just don't get it.

FrankenLife6041d ago

I don't think that they gave it a 6 because they were bias. I think they gave it a 6 because they are just too stupid to recognize a good game when they see it. Sometimes they do give a good game a good score, but hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

SonyOwnsNextYear6041d ago

lol, what these so called "burnalists" are not acknowledging is the amount of content on the disc. 28.30 Gb.

lol, thats like 3 x360 games.

To me the game is great and a awesome addition to 2008's gems.

Kaneda6041d ago

They should explained it like this. "We gave RFOM2 6/10 becoz is the closest game to compete with 360 GoW2 and we won 360 to win this Holiday" the end...

Kill Crow6041d ago (Edited 6041d ago )

Another low PS3 score meqans another company is suddenly on the M$ Pay Roll.

You guys never cease to amaze !!!

It's like a Bad 9/11 concpiracy - if you criticise the conspiracy then you're part of the conpiracy ...

Grow up people, it's just one review.... one opinion ... if you like the game then that's all that should matter. You don't look at all the high scores given and say "Well they just scored it high because they're paid by Sony" ... it's just a score

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shadowghost7526042d ago

Edge hate the PS3 it is hardly a secret

Why o why6042d ago

the devs are from the UK. They are normally very patriotic

The Matrix6042d ago

They're gay look at the guy who wrote that article no wonder they give stupid and inaccurate reviews.

InMyOpinion6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

Then why did they give LittleBigPlanet a perfect 10?

THC CELL6042d ago

Hmm talking about uk developers are they making Operation flashpoint 2 ?
the game that will kill BF BC ?

6/10 this site needs shutting down

they was paid By MS

Boycott
Boycott
This stupid edge site and mags

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rucky6042d ago

"This leads on to Edge’s review of ‘Resistance 2’, which criticised the game largely for its lack of innovation and improvement since the franchise’s first instalment."

So why did Gears 2 and l4d received a 9/10? Consistency with reviews is all we asking for.

doshey6042d ago

i have played l4d and it is no damn 9 its only in the 8 category but still great game

Why o why6042d ago

CONSISTENCY

its the reason ill use an ign review over theirs EVEN if their scores are the same

animboo6042d ago

what im seeing, r2 pushed alot of console innovation, the 60 player online, 8 player co op, i mean isnt that innovative..

RadientFlux6042d ago

A very good read about what a review really is and how too many people don't come up with their own opinions and focus too much on the final score.

Why o why6042d ago

but after playing some of the games they review i honestly have to ask WTF. The gaming media STINKS and the EDGE are not above corruption or foul play just because their British. They come from a pc background and it shows.

RadientFlux6042d ago

I've re-read the Resistance 2 Edge review and not found anything in the review that leads me to believe that there was any corruption or foul play when it came to the review process.

Just a reviewer that ended up not liking the game as much as everyone else and you as reader have the option in the future not to read any of his reviews and instead wait for reviews from reviewers that match your gaming preference.

kwyjibo6042d ago

"They come from a PC background".

Shut up. You know nothing about the publication.

Please stick to IGN's consistent 8's (they have recently stopped doing this, which I applaud), and their anal retentive pointless writing (they haven't stopped doing this).

ultimolu6042d ago

Both of you missed the point. It's not the review that pissed people off (6/10). It's the *way* that review was written, as if the assholes who reviewed it hadn't played the game thoroughly or something.

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Omega46042d ago

So a PS3 exclusive didnt get a high score and automatically Edge is biased what about the majority of reviews of R2 which are in the 8-8.5 range, Edge are known for being extra harsh thats why it got lower than the average of 8

Why o why6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

that is not the point. Read what rucky posted. Just open ur eyes for a second and consider what we are saying. Answer me this as i find it really hard to get a straight answer from the 360 guys on n4g

Do you think there is ANY bias in the gaming media whether it be for/against a publisher/dev/culture/console/ genre?

Sometimes its like the only person people say is a sony fanboy who works in the media is Shane from 1up....how ironic

Ive been reading edge for over 10 years now so ive seen change. I use to trust them and a 9 from them is a 10 anywhere else its just the consistency that they are lacking

Man_of_the_year6042d ago

Yes i am sure there is bias in the industry which is why you take the average of all reviews since bias works both ways PROS and CONS.

The game didn't deserve a 6 but it also doesn't deserve a 9

Why o why6042d ago

that is a fair comment. I feel its around 8.5 to 9.0 but ive not finished it yet. Im just a little baffled about the lack of innovation free pass that other games have been given. Its their inconsistency that is annoying

Man_of_the_year6042d ago

Well i haven't really looked into their history with review scores so i can't comment on them being inconsistent - but didn't they give LBP a 10/10..perfect score, absolutely nothing wrong with the game...

If they are being inconsistent i just don't see it.

kwyjibo6042d ago

You've really been reading Edge for 10 years? Even after that "PC background" post you made?

Well, if you've seen change, you'll have seen in those 10 years, that Edge has repeatedly gone against the grain of IGNs. I don't think you've been reading Edge that long, if at all. Go back to the PS2 era, and you'll find that the reviews were a lot terser and content light, and their features more geared towards industry than towards consumers.

Edge have repeatedly gone against the grain GTA III got 6/10, Morrowind got 6/10, and I disagree with both of those scores. They also gave Max Payne a 6/10, and Mass Effect a 7/10, scores against the run of play that I agree with entirely.

Publications should not second guess the Metacritic average, they should set out their own arguments and be forthright with their opinions, even if runs counter to popular consensus. Because these are the publications that define the Metacritic averages, not ones that follow it.

You will not find a single source of reviews in which you will agree with whole heartedly, because you are not the ones writing it. Even the IGN and Gamespot of 2006, awarding everything an 8/10 you'll disagree with, when it awards that score to duds.

Why o why6042d ago (Edited 6042d ago )

all good n well but HALO 3 10??

Them, eurogamer and channel 4 text share the same reviewers. I used to like the edge back in the day because they seemed more artsy than the other mags around I even loved the front cover artwork it was also the most expensive and thickest mag around and yes it wasnt directed at me because half wouldnt read half the stuff . Maybe i just wanted to be different who knows. I was into their mags in the amiga atari st days and stopped in the late ps1/ early ps2 days. When i say they have changed its that they would seldom give a 10 and they used to underscore many many games that i liked but they were consistent in their underscoring to me at that time. Now im a cynic and will read into what they say plus im not as innocent as i used to be and when i see them giving games a free pass on some issues but take away points on another then I have ask why. Honestly, whats so innovative about halo 3. I like gears but the halo mark FROM THEM set my alarms ringing.

Im sorry i cant post no shots or receipts of my edge magazines. I favoured it because i knew they were from the uk like myself and all the other mags like cv+g , egm et el were heavy on info that didnt directly relate to me. On reflection ive been reading edge on and off for over ten years long b4 i even had internet or even a real pc.

And in response to your comment above ill ask you this. What is your most trusted site? (out of the ones you trust) Ive never said ANY site was perfect and i doubt you are either but your attacking ign and as far as im concerned they are more consistent nowadays than they used to be and guess why that is......because things change. My judgements of them are not static or set in stone. I used to like many sites including gamespot (dont shoot me) they are 1 of the biggest sites out there but they too have shown their corruptible side to the point where i dont even need too mention what im in about. The media is becoming too powerful so why wouldnt sony, ubisoft, MS want to control and manipulate it and gain an advantage in one way or the other.

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps2/...

they love themselves some sony exclusives

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Video Game Franchises in Danger of Being Forgotten

The gaming industry moves at such a pace that it’s not surprising we’ve seen countless franchises fall into obscurity over the years.

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S2Killinit216d ago

Im surprised that a game with a heritage of Medal of Honor is in this list.

cthulhucultist216d ago

There is a rumour that Driver 1 & 2 remasters will be released for Switch and presumably for other systems as well.

https://www.gamingbible.com...

Not sure however whether this results into new games in the near future.

HellspawnPR1981216d ago

Ninja Gaiden? Splinter Cell? Tenchu? Virtua Fighter? Killer Instinct? Killzone?

DefenderOfDoom2216d ago

I would very much enjoy
a new dedicated single player Killzone campaign. With a fun multi-player.

cthulhucultist216d ago

Tenchu and Killer Instict would be great indeed!

Unfortunately new Killzone game does not seem to be in the works

Virtua Fighter is going to receive a new entry!

https://www.dualshockers.co...

Splinter Cell is likely to be one of the remasters launching next year (not sure whether this has to do anything with the remake previously announced)

https://toronto.ubisoft.com...

HellspawnPR1981216d ago

Yeah, read the news about a new Virtua Fighter and I am so ready for it. Splinter Cell at this point I don't believe anything Ubisoft says plus I don't think modern day Ubisoft can make a decent stealth game. They will likely fuck it up.

Inverno216d ago

Basically everything at this point as companies have no concern with preservation.

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Ranking the Resistance Games From Worst To Best

While it's been on ice for as long as it was around, the Resistance franchise has no shortage of quality.

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Knushwood Butt1139d ago

My take:

Single player
3, 2, 1

Multiplayer
3, 1, 2

Overall
3, 2, 1

I beat the lengthy single player in 1 multiple times and spent hours in the online too. Plus 1 featured my home town! Special mention to the audio design in 1: playing that with surround headphones blew me away.

Note: I have the platinum for Resistance 2.

Eidolon1137d ago

Resistance 1 MP will always be my favorite. Call it nostalgia or whatever, but that was my jam, felt more balance, natural.

Miraak82 1137d ago

i have the platinium too , 10k kills in online ranked matches was no joke . Took me 3-4 months straight grinding but it was fun . To put it in perspective you only got like 25 kills per match if you were 1st place every match that's at Least 400 matches in 1st

Sciurus_vulgaris1138d ago

I only played the 3 main Resistance titles. My ranking would be;
1. Resistance 3
2. Resistance: Fall of Man
3. Resistance 2

GoodGuy091138d ago

Man I loved 3's campaign. Another gem stuck on the ps3 and who knows if insomniac will go back to the franchise.

fr0sty1137d ago

Resistance, Warhawk, MAG, Motorstorm, there's so many first party gems on PS3 that Sony has just left to die...

P_Bomb1138d ago

Never played Burning Skies but I still have Retribution.

monkey6021138d ago

Burning Skies was about 3 hours long and rather inconsequential. You haven't missed anything

porkChop1137d ago

Honestly, Burning Skies was shit. There's no two ways about it. At first I thought it looked terrible, then I second guessed myself. Big mistake.

darthv721137d ago

Retribution has this really cool feature where you could use a PS3 to link a controller to it and play. So if you had a 2000 or 3000 hooked to a tv, you can use a real controller. All of this predates the PSP Go's ability to sync a sixaxis to it via bluetooth.

Yui_Suzumiya1137d ago

Resistance 3 was shocking and brilliant. Loved it.

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Why Resistance Was So Incredible

While the studio is best known for Spyro the Dragon, Ratchet, and Clank, and Spider-Man back on the PS3 the studio broke from creating platformers and made one of the highest regarded science-fiction first-person shooters of all time. This was Resistance and it remains one of Sony's most acclaimed and dormant franchises.

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Jin_Sakai1494d ago

Really wish Insomniac would bring back Resistance!

darthv721493d ago

Agreed. Until they do a new entry, I'd love to get the two portable games remade into console versions. Maybe in a nice compilation with the mainline titles.

monkey6021493d ago

Burning Skies wasn't a great game.
It was only a couple of hours long and there was nothing memorable about it.

I'd love a new entry

darthv721493d ago

^monkey, hence why it should be remade into a better version.

SullysCigar1494d ago

Resistance 3's campaign was gorgeous for the time - and an awesome game to boot.

monkey6021493d ago

I remember being put off by it because McHale wasn't the MC but it turned out to be my favourite campaign

CBaoth1493d ago

by and large though the Resistance IP featured many protagonists (4 altogether I think if you include the portables). One of the reasons I enjoyed it was not being shackled to individual story arcs. Very rare for a major franchise.

Army_of_Darkness1493d ago

My favorite resistance game as well! It seriously had creepy, scary a$$ moments bro! It made me want an action horror game from insomniac!

Mr_cheese1493d ago

Remember playing this through online co op with the move controller and gun attachment! What a game!

BlackIceJoe1494d ago

I've said in the past I'd like to see this series return and have it take place years later, like in the present.

I'll give you an example if I'm not mistaken the last game ended in the 50s, so if it was to take place some time in the 2020s you'd have an opportunity to see how the world changed after the fall of Chimera and all the new technology that came out of that war.

Just like in our universe we all know WW2 happened, but we never experienced it, so if the next Resistance game takes place years later so too would people in that universe know a war look place against the Chimera, they just wouldn't know what it really was like.

So getting to see how that universe would respond to the Chimera reemerging would be interesting.

Imagine a little kid talking with his grandfather about the war and the kid just thinks it was just a made up bed time horror story and what was said was worse than what really took place, but now that the Chimera come back the kid will find out why years later the old timer adults were still waiting for the Chimera to return.

I think there is great potential for this series still and I really believe the best way forward for Resistance is make it have a time jump too.

So hopefully this series will return.

Dragonopolis1493d ago

Great Idea. I'd play that version.

Resistance was a great game and of all the remasters.... I would play a great remastered version of resistance series as well

waverider1493d ago

I was blown away when i played for the first time Resistance on the PS3. Great Game. Also liked very much an played for hundred of hours the Co-op of R2. The SP campaign of R3 is also excelent. I really hope that Sony and Insomniac annouced the Remaster of the Series and a new chapter. They got story to do that.

Jambola121493d ago

Resistance 2 was one of the first few games i played on ps3 and I loved it, would definitely finish that again :D

Chevalier1493d ago

I loved all the Resistance games. But part 2 online was amazing. The Marksmen for the Spec Ops type class when it was fully upgraded was such an amazing weapon. Oh man I wish they release all the games again and let us play part 2 online again.

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