Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X can use storage expansions to increase their hard disk size. The price of the 1 TB expansion has been revealed.
That series s aint looking so cheap now 250 + 160(the expansion will be needed with less than 500gb built in) may aswell just buy an x, for the extra 40 quid you would get the better storage you want and much better gpu/cpu/memory, etc.
With this argument you are obviously not the customer they are targeting. Some players might be totally ok with the storage size. They play a few games at a time. Maybe 2 or 3. Maybe they don't need the convenience of having a lot of titles installed and ready to play. They play just the few titles and when bored with it, remove it from the drive and install a new one.
Thats a perfectly reasonable response, I know the s aint for me, that doesn't really take away from my points though does it?
Well ideally that would be the case...how can you possibly play more games at a time? I could see it maybe if you play every genre...then you would need a sports, racer, fighting, simulation, and couple of others . I only play 1 game at a time. Usually have 2-3 games installed at a time in the case of couch co op situation.. With that storage size the S is perfectly suited for someone like me and not someone that likes to have many games installed.
Rgr, look up the page a bit, i kinda already explained my situation, not being rude, just cant be arsed to type it out again lol.
I feel like Gamepass encourages players to try more games, though, which likely means having more new games installed at a time.
I think many unknowing people will be disappointed when their SSD are full and see the price they have to pay
I mean do you expect the Sony ones to come in super cheap or something? Let's not pretend like 825GB - OS = tons of space here. Both consoles are probably going to need upgrades, otherwise you will be doing a bunch of juggling via an external device.
Why do you feel the need to mention sony? This article is about the proprietary cards that ms are charging people for, if and when sony release some proprietary ssds then we can talk about their price, the fact they are letting us use 3rd party drives means we should see prices drop quicker due to the competitive market, both consoles are going to need extra space, but only one is forcing you to buy from them ...
@IRetrouk - you attack MS regarding their pricing, but then defend Sony. Got it. Both options are going to be expensive, don't kid yourself.
If you get a series s just get a slower 5400rpm large drive and transfer back and forth. If you need to save $
Or buy a fully specced PS5 digital model for $60 less.
@IRetrouk That's usually how it goes when you buy a budget hardware. I don't expect many Series S owners to buy extra storage, they'll be just fine with the initial storage.
Pretty expensive, but then again, even when you're talking about PC hardware, all NVMe SSD's are expensive, so it isn't just an Xbox thing.
It is for an SSD that has PCIe 3.0 speed. And while standard SSDs will reduce in price due to market competition, XSX proprietary SSD will be artificially high as there is a single source: Seagate.
https://twitter.com/eurogam... Eurogamer made a mistake regarding the price
So roughly $205-$220 I’ll just wait until prices go down until I jump into next gen
Those things might go down price on holidays and what like everything else. Should be fine for awhile in the beginning then around 6 months to a year+ is when you need to buy more storage. They did say this gen you should be able to delete certain parts of a game to free space like CoD single after finishing it.
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They will be $199.99 US.
I am sure people said the same thing about the Vita and their memory card. Look what happened to the Vita
Sony also supported the Vita like crap, which is a shame. Was a great handheld.
Like many will do. Both consiles will need proprietary/custom memory/storage that will be coslty for a bit.
You might as well just buy an Xbox Series X at that point
I use one of those 2tb xbo drives for all my gamepass and gwg games. That is going to plug right in to this and I will be up and playing right away. No cuts, no butts, no coconuts
Reminds me of the 4gb and arcade 360's that were essentially useless unless you bought one of MSs proprietary overpriced HDDs to go along with it
Lol reminds me of when the 360 launched without Wi-Fi and they made you buy an adapter...
not useless... the 4gb was better than the 256 and 512mb memory cards. Those were primarily for holding your profile and a save or two. At least the 4gb could hold a bunch of XBLA games (remember they were limited to no more than 500mb at the time)
Oh dear this means ps5 storage will be similar
Yep, no matter the console, memory is gonna cost us man.
Space..not memory. Memory is the ram. This is just storage space.
At least there are more manufacturers for the PS5 SSD's since it is not proprietary. Prices should go down a lot faster due to competition.
If it meets the specs then several different Nvme Drives could be used, so there will be options. £159 for a 1tb is about right though at least MS are not trying to do what Sony did with the Vita memory cards.
Actually you can get the 1tb drives for around 100 pounds, ms are doing exactly what sony did with those cards, dont be fooled lol.
Drop me a link to a 1TB PCIe4 for £100 please dude. I'd like to buy a couple.
This MS drive isn't hitting Gen4 NVMe speeds though, it's more like gen 3. You're being charged gen 4 prices for gen 3 speeds.
Sorry should have been clearer, you can get drives that match the xbox speeds for 100 pounds, they may be called gen 4 but their speeds are gen 3, no matter what way you look at it, they are doing the same thing sony done with their ps vita cards and micro did with the 360 hdds.
Sony's will be super expensive for nvmes that match no matter how you look at it. But the thing is that it's better long run wise. Those prices will drop pretty fast as the PCIe 4 NVMe becomes more mainstream. The Xbox one, tbh, it's a very slow ssd if we're talking NVMe, most gen 3 nvmes that anyone would look at runs 3gbps plus. The 2.5 for that price is pretty ridiculous in all manors tbh. But this is not any different than 360s overpriced HDDs so it's not unexpected. It looks just a bit much now. But as the gen goes by, it'll be like PS3 and 360 where drive storage is a completely winning situation on Sony's side. But as of now. It'll be rough to deal with. I do say if you're buying an xbox, just buy the X and save yourself the hassle. It's work the extra 200 at this point.
Similar and yet no. It will be competition so the price will drop. But initialy it will probably be around that price. And hopefuly we will be able to buy a 2TB for Ps5 at the start!
A 2 TB at the speeds sony is saying their nvme wil be will be extremely expensive
I’ll be very curious to see how much available space is there on ps5. The raw space is 825, no idea how much it is after os and bloat.
Gr1mmyshadows: Yes it aint gonna be cheap. But a 2TB will be alot cheaper than buying two 1TB hdds, so if youre not price sensetive it could be a smart move if youre an avid gamer!
Give it some time but within the next six months a drive like that will cost more than the PS5 digital.
My plan is next year get a 2tb NVMe and put in it. I expect to pay around $400-500 but by the time I get. Maybe the speeds are more consumer level for nvmes. Guess we'll see. But I plan on it being atleast the 980evo or pro at the very least if they're fast enough to make up for the lanes. And I want to note, I'm a PC gamer first. I paid $500 for the Arozzi arena desk. So at this point price isn't a big factor. More so just availability. Xbox and ps consoles are a fantastic deal compared to PC ATM that the extra cost is all good imo
Personally I'm not too fussed. I hope to have 1Gbps download speeds by the end of 2021 at the latest so downloading games will be ultra fast. At 1Gbps, you could download an entire terabyte worth of games in just under 2 and a half hours. I already have 362Mbps download so it's no slouch anyway.
I can only download at 1.7 Meg a second we've no fiber round here with new builds.. Wow you have 362Mbps!!!
Damn. Perhaps an external HDD will be best. I'm going to pick up a 2TB external for roughly £55, and based on figures from this website ( https://techinternets.com /copy_calc), even a bog standard external HDD with a read/write speed of 100 MBps should transfer a 200GB file to the PS5 in just under 40 minutes.
The Samsung 980 Pro 1TB which I expect to be compatible has an MSRP of 229USD and I expect it once production and competition increases it would be more around 180 - 200 USD. The difference here is that there can be competition and if they have maybe a QLC variant that we can see prices around 130-150USD in the next 10 months and down the line gradually go lower.
Competition? There is no competition when at any given time +40% percent of the DRAM market is controlled by Samsung. Welcome to the never ending battle we PC guys deal with when shopping for anything Memory/Storage related. Kinda random but for those who wish for Microsoft to disappear in the console realm, they should take a hard look around at some markets in the tech world and realize, less players or a market being predominately controlled by a single player is a lose lose for the consumer. Intel sat on there hands for years because they had no competition and now its biting them in the ass.
It does and it doesn't, probably around the same ballpark at first, but you still have control of trying to find a better priced one. Then within a year prices will drop faster due to competing manufacturers. MS on the other hand can and will keep that $200 price tag as long as they can cause no one has an alternative choice.
Not exactly. There will be several PS5 compatible SSD's with the phison 18 controller coming to market by the 1st half of 2021 and with market saturation comes price drops.
Yeah, biggest storage maker in the market = ew.
@TheBestUsername this is tech. If they weren't selling quality products, they wouldn't be the biggest in the market. That's like saying Nvidia is trash because they basically own the dedicated GPU market.
That SSD price is expensive! But really it's only for convenience, I can't see why you wouldn't just have a normal massive HDD for your XSX or PS5 to back up games with and just copy it to SSD when you decide to play it.
That's exactly what I'll be doing, and at no extra cost.
I've heard a lot of people say this but has that actually been confirmed as a feature?
Can’t find where, but I recall it being confirmed that external HDD’s are compatible, but when you want to play a game that requires the SSD it won’t let you run it from the external, you’ll have to move it to the internal storage
I know HDD is compatible for current gen games, but can you store next gen games on them when not in use and then transfer to SSD to play them. I see no reason why not but I think everyone is just assuming that and it's never been confirmed as far as I know because I've been listening for that since the reveal.
I don't think MS wouldn't allow it. But Sony has specifically said that you can put your ps5 games on your external HDD but it won't play off of it. You'd have to put it onto your main drive in that case to play. So exactly what they said is how it'll work. I imagine ms would be the exact same since they are the originators of external HDD being used in such ways
So games load in 2(ps5) to 13(xboxssx) seconds been a huge advantage to next gen consoles but you will be settling with having them on a slow hard drive moving them may take 10nto 30m ? You are ok with that sure as soon as you see loading tskes fee seconds you will get used to the new instant loading speed and ill drop the slow hard drives. And drop 200 plus tax for this ssd
Well my PC is all SSD so its not like they are news to me, but transferring from my HDD to SSD is far quicker for me than downloading them again, my internet speed is only around 10mb. I tend to only ever have three big games installed at one time even on my PC, so i'll be fine with a 1TB for a good while anyway. Of course, other people's needs may be vastly different to my own...
Transfering from a HDD is fast as the output from a HDD is way higher than its write speed generally. Downloads generally are way longer. But it's a easy task for an NVMe. When I've transfered a 50gb game from my HDD to NVMe it didn't take long. I do it alot on steam titles. I have about 16 I install on my main drive and everything else is on the 4tbhdd then I transfer it over when needed. I'd rather that 5 min transfer than to delete and download games as if I play FFXV. It exponentially to changes things. The game even runs better with it outside of loading.
Yikes...what we expected but not pretty (and also proprietary, so prices likely will stay high for a while). Hopefully Sony's will be cheaper in a few months 🤷♂️
Definitely not pretty, that’s two-thirds the cost of a console right there. Isn’t PS5’s SSD supposed to have all this extra power that enables it to do things that the Xbox’s SSD can’t? Wouldn’t that mean it could be more expensive because of the tech that’s going into it?
Right now yes. Amazon UK sell gen4 nvme 1tb m.2 SSD for £170. But I'm not sure if they are fast enough for the ps5.
As of now you're 1000% correct. But because it's free to use any of a speed that can handle it. Within 2 or so years you'll get way better deals on drives as the 3.5gb standard is now being moved and they're talking 6-7gb ATM with gen 4 for consumer level drives. Meaning once they're out and become norms, it'll drop in price. Especially in a gen where drive speed matters even for PC