A Japanese analyst from Rakuten has suggested that the PlayStation 5 could become the best-selling console of all time by selling 200 million units.
Well... that's a very optimistic outlook. I know I'll be one (or more) of them.
i hope to be that successfull.......but the thing is not only to sell 200 million but also to release equal amount of software that would justify the amount of sold consoles..... .what i mean is that while PS4 sold also around 100 million consoles had less AAA games than its predesserors , And this is for two reasons :because longer development cycles of SP games (which is justifiable) and more leaning toward online competitve games (which is not justifiable as they shrink game genre variety in the library of the console)
The PS5 will sell great but that figure is unrealistic. The PS2 was a sales phenomenon, it sold 158 million but that was during an era when there wasn’t many console or other tech alternatives such as smartphones, and people bought it as an affordable DVD player. The PS4 which has dominated for the last seven years had sold about 108+ million units. Unless there is rapid expansion into new markets I think predictions of the PS5 almost doubling the massive PS4 sales is unlikely.
^ China is a significant young market and we're already seeing the growth in their developers. Bootleg consoles and piracy are and issue though. Globally, gaming as a pastime has grown since PS2 era and the market value has grown exponentially. 200m units sold does sound far fetched to me too, but the market has changed and will continue to change as the coming generation unfolds, so I couldn't right it off entirely as laughable at this stage.
No way in hell. 200 will never be done. Unless you have an endless supply of games for the casuals and a console priced at 199 for at least 5 years, even then I doubt it. 150 million is more feasible but still near impossible. There's just too much competition and hardware prices never dip below 250, at least not when it matters(early - mid years of the gen)
@VenomUK: I think the difference between ps2 and ps5 is the fact that people are staying home more than ever because of the pandemic. I mean streaming services like Netflix and the like are recording record numbers because of the pandemic. Plus their are way more gamers today than there were back in the ps2 days obviously. 200 Million is not going to happen. But 120 -130? could happen.
@Venom Yeah, the PS2, much like the Wii, tapped a large section of non-gamers due to it's built in DVD. That being said, who knows? The gaming market is expanding.
Whats an analyst?
Ps4 is at 115 mill and as sold 1.4 billion games..A record
@venom Not correct. You had Nintendo coming off of their peak. You had sega Saturn. Then you had Xbox All in the run of the ps2. You had consumer interest in the midst of that record breaking console generation. How they failed was all due to software vs the competition... But Sony had absolutely no smooth sailing... it was a fight and against more consoles in said gen vs now where only two consoles fight for said market currently. Nintendo was at their peak, sega Saturn was awesome, then the new Microsoft console.
Thats very optimistic. But if we factor is the xbox sales, I think its doable. As the console war is over. Its either pc or ps. Bang for buck, ps wins.
Thats the same number ms predicted xbox one would sell. I think Sony would be happy with 120 million. I also remember Sony saying that the PS5 gen may only last 5 or so yrs. And 25 million a year is definitely achievable. Off to good start that's for sure.
In 2013, right after the mandatory kinect, DRM and no preowned games debacle, MS predicted "upwards of a billion" console sales for Xbox one! Their logic was that it doesn't just play games, so it's bigger than the gaming market. They predicted this after analysts told them its possible 400 million consoles could sell across the sector in the coming generation. As it turns out, they've sold around 47-48 million, so they were a little off... The point I'm making is it's hard to know what's going to happen, but I think you're spot on and Sony would be chuffed to bits with 120 million lifetime. 200 million sounds bonkers... who knows, though?
Lol i rem Microsoft saying that. They have never sold 100 mill before they should lower their goals 🤣
It could be the best selling console of all time but not 200. I just hope this prediction isn't accredited to Sony years down the line. They didn't say this an analyst did
Whatever these guys are smoking :/
I really don't think this next generation will be long enough for them to sell 200 million units.....that is a LOT of hardware. Even if you assume an astronomical rate of yearly sales of 30 million (which isn't going to happen), at that rate you would still need more than six and a half years to reach 200 million. This generation certainly isn't going to last that long...presumably the next next gen consoles will be introduced by then.
I don't know about 200 mil, but it will definitely sell more than the PS4 because the PS5 if fully Backwards Compatible with the PS4. PS4 owners will all eventually move to PS5. When you leave the PS4, you are not leaving anything behind this time, you are bringing everything with you.
^This... that is what sold a lot of people on the PS2. And look how that turned out. over 100m on the PS1 upgrading to PS2 and getting even bigger at 155m.
It's still a pretty outlandish prediction. A LOT of people bought a PS2 because it was a cheap DVD player.
Yeah 200mil is not gonna happen, pass ps4 eh maybe probably by a little. We wont know until the time comes.
ps4 will sell for a few more years so we'll see the final number I expect atleast 125-130m. PS5 seems like it'll outsell it at this rate if they can keep up with demand and the game line up i great like this past the first year
Well according to me this analyst is hitting the bottle a little early in the morning. It will sell very well I'm sure. But he's predicting it will sell TWICE as much as the PS4. That's unrealistic.
PS4 is at 110m and will sell atleast another 10 to 15 before discountinued, so not really double. Maybe 150 is possible if the games line up is fantastic all year around every year. But guess we'll see. Since Sony excluives are selling alot more these days than they use to
200 million is a lot. I have to say no too but not impossible
We're at the end of the gen and if all current ps4 and xbox owners combined bought a ps5 you still wouldn't reach 200Mil . Maybe with a 10 year generation.
@Christopher Very hard to achieve? Yes. Impossible? No. We just have to see how it will perform when it's out, how it's going to be with the new games (and how many of them are coming out and how good they are) and hope Sony won't screw up with bad communications, bad moves or all those things that could ruin the "console image".
the switch pro will put a stop to that
Play all the wii u ports in 4k!
Is that a bad thing?
Not native 4K, but upscaled.
It will definitely sell well, but more than PS2? It's too early to tell that. The console didn't even launch yet, and we haven't seen what games will be available on the console during its life cycle.
Depends on what countries it can sell in and for how much. PS2 had the greatest console library of all time and barely broke 150 million. Selling an additional 50 million units will not be an easy feat unless Sony really starts pumping out content and basically gives people the console.
I though PS2 sold 155 million.
That's a nice number. But no.
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Sony ordered a production of 14M+ until March 2021. There is no way they have 11M ready for November 12th, 2020. They already confirmed that they will have more PS5's at launch than PS4's, which with the trends of selling out quickly, is already a good sign of how the adoption rate of PS5 will be higher than the PS4. So at best, PS5 will sell over 14M+ in the first 5 months. Not on the release day.
If DarkSniper says this, I must at least see his point
I agree you bring up a good point. PS5 could sell more than Ps2.
It's not happening unless the console can be sold in new gaming markets like China etc... and those markets gravitate towards the console.
Console market is max 120-150M as each of the 3 + the PC. So no.
I will be conservative and say tops 80 -120 million
Wth is this guy smoking? 100M? Yeah. 120M? Possible. But anything significantly over that is unlikely. 200M is not happening.
PS2 passed the 150M+ but I remember that it had several redesigns and several cut prices. PS2 was $99 on its last years. What is impressive with PS4 is that it had only one redesign and just one price adjustment and already passed the 110M+ barrier. PS4 can still sell decently for the next couple of years, provided Sony makes at least one price adjustment to the PS4 with the PS5 on the market. Probably, PS4 all time sales will be above 120M+. But its also true that PS5 seems to be having the same pattern effect PS2 had at the time. Both are follow ups of 100M+ install user-base and with full BC to that user-base. That could lead to an PS5 adoption rate way higher than the PS4 had. So first easy guess is that PS5 will be another 100M+ console hit. (Actually, if it was not for the PS3 catastrophic first years, all domestic PS would be 100M+ hits). Second guess is that PS5 can turn out to be a serious contender to reach PS2 150M+ mark.
Why not,.. I am seriously thinking not getting it a launch,.. Said nothing about PSVR,.. If Des is launch,.. I will have to get it though.
Sony have said the current PSVR is fully compatible. Using the new PS5 camera, you need an adapter (provided for free) and you're away. This news seems to have got lost amidst the preorders scramble. Theyve also stated that 99% of PS4 games will be playable, but I still see people thinking there's only a few. I think we've been hit with some much info at once, some of it just gets missed because N4G allows doom and gloom opinions to dominate their headlines.
nothing is free,. How the fuck would I get an adapter in my country for free.? I'll get it once DES hits regardless.
^ Well you're a happy little chappy aren't you? Glad I took the time to help! It's FREE - and it says so on the SONY website! Why would I make it up?! I'm sorry to hear you don't have postal/courier services in your country...and sorry I don't know what country you are in, how silly of my me... Demon's Souls is a launch tile too. Confirmed. Anything else I can help with, my old chum? 🙂
I'm in no rush to buy.
Unlikely, but I suppose it's possible. I'm not ruling it out anyways. I'm just skeptical the actual number of units sold over the system's lifetime will be quite that high. I'll be beyond impressed if I'm proven wrong though.
I seriously doubt it. The world is really screwed up right now and most people are struggling. Things change in swings and roundabouts though so you never know. So you never really know.
Wow, that's a big number O_o... i think it's a bit early to talk about those numbers, over all so big ones. Who knows what will happen? I just know i'm one of those people, can't wait to put my hands on mine :D
I think that if it had been able to play all previous PlayStation software (disc or download), it well may have finally bested the PS2.
One thing that is a definite PS4 sold 1 million in one day back in 2013 PS5 is going to absolutely smash that
There were shops sold out in minutes.... The hype is crazy. They better get another factory....
lol no chance Its not pachter is it?
wow someone's optimistic ha.
Lmao analysts. You’re absolutely nuts if you think that’s possible, even more so considering this will be a normal length console generation and nothing like the length of the 360/PS3 or Xbone/PS4 generations. Also, keep in mind Sony is supporting the PS4 for most of this next-gen’s lifecycle giving consumers a reason to not buy a PS5.
I don't get why they can't plan for at least 3 AAA first party games for a launch. Demon souls, astro playroom, destruction all starts.Souls might be AAA but the rest are meh. With the PS4 we had knack and killzone. They had how many years to prepare?
The prices is higher so I doubt that.
Why not, this gen is going to be a golden one for sure. Just imagine how amazing the games will be in a couple of years once the devs get to grips.
Japan would need to be 200% onboard though. The last two PlayStations didn’t do nearly as well in Japan as the PS2.
It could sell 200 million if the next generation lasts longer. Tech improvements are slower than they were a few years ago and more importantly we are running into a wall with development. You can’t expect games to get much bigger than they are now because doing so would cost too much money and take too much time. Let’s say we don’t the PS6 and the XBOX Series X One (or whatever confusing nonsense they come up with) for another 10 years. That’s a long time for Sony to run circles around its competition.
I remember when we were here with the Xbox one and ps4... Where did all that time go?