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All the Cards Are Finally on the Next-Gen Table & the Choice Is as Simple as Ever

Ed writes: With all the cards finally on the next-gen table for both Sony and Microsoft, we can start to intelligently break down which console to buy.

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Diver1314d ago

intelligently break down from twin finite. lololo no. an the article is jus a flow chart that thinkks gamers are robots.

GamerRN1314d ago

If the big PS5 games are on PS4, you should keep PS4 Pro for exclusives and get Series X for power and value with gamepass

Shane Kim1314d ago

What about the ps5 games coming post 2021?

Mr_cheese1314d ago

I could be wrong here but we havent seen the UI or many of the other features of the consoles have we? These are huge factors which still havent been revealed

GamerRN1314d ago

@crazyCoconuts

If the argument works for Xbox and PC then it holds here as well

S2Killinit1314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

What if PS5 has the better games? Like the PS4 did over xbox X? Will you pay for my xbox at that point?

Jin_Sakai1314d ago

“If the big PS5 games are on PS4, you should keep PS4 Pro for exclusives and get Series X for power and value with gamepass“

So you can play at a much lower resolution, lesser graphics, no RT, and worse framerates? No thanks. As for Series X, not wasting a penny on a powerful machine with zero interesting 1st party games.

itsmebryan1314d ago

@Shane
You can wait till 2021 to buy the PS5. It will be cheaper and you will have more games. Are all first party Sony games $70 now, the PS5 controllers are $70 and you have to pay for a service to play PS4 games?

If so that is really going to add up. Or $35 a month for the much more powerful Xbox Series X, games pass( over 100 games plus all first party games day one), Xbox live, and EA play.

medman1314d ago

@gamerrn

I think there is very little to complain about with the launch year window lineup of games Sony has announced. Sony has focused on telling us about games that are coming in 2020 and 2021, unlike Microsoft, who have revealed titles that are still early in development, outside of Halo Infinite, and who knows when that game will launch.

So on balance for the ps5 we're looking at Horizon Forbidden West (ps4 and ps5), Ratchet and Clank (ps5), God of War (probably ps4 and ps5), Grand Turismo 7 (ps5), Miles Morales + original spider-man game for those who haven't played it yet (ps4 and ps5), Demons Souls (ps5), Returnal (ps5), Sackboy (ps4 and ps5), Astro's playroom, Destruction All Stars (ps5), Godfall (ps5)....then you add the 3rd parties that are timed or exclusive...Deathloop, Final Fantasy 16, Ghost Wire Tokyo, the list goes on and on. And that's without mentioning games like Little Devil Inside, Jett the Far Shore, and the like.

That is a ton of games incoming in 1 year. It surpasses any launch window for most consoles I can remember. Easily. You can complain about certain games coming to both ps4 and ps5, but if you look at it, those games are building on assets from the previous game to allow them to come to systems more quickly. There is no way we get a God of War Ragnorok in 2021 after the first game came out in April 2018. Same with Miles Morales. In order to turn these projects around quickly, they are using assets already built. I have zero problem with that, particularly when it seems we're getting a hybrid approach, which means some games will be ps5 only and others cross gen. That's fine to me if it means we get a bigger selection of titles to play and are not waiting for years for any big titles to hit, which is what it appears to be with Microsoft. And for the record, I have a ps5 preordered, but I also plan to preorder a series x, so I want them both to do well.

potatoseal1314d ago

Demon's Souls says get lost GamerRN

GamerRN1314d ago

@jin_sakai

You argue to get the PS5 for better resolution and framerates over PS4, but then state no reason to get Series X despite better resolution and framerates across all 3rd party titles that make up over 90 percent of all games...

@potatoseal

PC says Demon Souls in 6 months... And to get lost because it'll have better res and framerate

Crazy enough, I still bought PS5 through Best Buy, I'm just playing devil's advocate

GamerRN1314d ago

I wish people would stop being hypocrites and just say "I'm a fanboy I prefer PS5" ... Just stop trying to justify it.

pwnmaster30001314d ago

Your so full of crap lol.
Your obviously bias to MS also.

Maybe you should take your own advice also and say I’m a fanboy.

RgR1314d ago

There's only like 3 confirmed coming. Demon souls is big and that's ps5 only. God of war will probably be the same

GamerRN1314d ago

@pwnmaster3000

Not full of crap, bought the 500$ disc version. I'm not biased, I love both systems. I use Xbox since X for the power and for Xbox Live. Other than that I love Sony exclusives

zackeroniii1314d ago

why pay $300-$500 for a streambox when i could just get a pc or use my Samsung galaxy s10e and use game pass i don't even need an xbox they have no compelling exclusives anyway.

Hedstrom1314d ago

And miss out on Demons Souls?????????????

boing11314d ago

So far I've seen only one confirmed to be cross-gen, Miles Morales. Is there more?

CaptainObvious8781314d ago

@GamerRN

The xsx is only slightly more powerful than the PS5, and we don't know yet how the PS5's advantages such as the super fast ssd is going to transfer into the real world.

The xsx doesn't have a single exclusive launching with it. You'd be an absolute fool to buy one.

Android1313d ago

If Halo is any indication of this "power" you speak of, I'm good thanks.

kryteris1313d ago

or get a ps5, and play the xbox titles on pc.

Atticus_finch1313d ago

Keep your xone skip the SeriesS and buy a ps4Pro.

TheTony3161313d ago (Edited 1313d ago )

building a PC is better than buying an X. It costs more but you get much more out of it.

nyctophilia131313d ago

Demon's Souls isn't on PS4, so yeah.

preciousdeath1310d ago

You clearly haven't seen Miles Morales running at 4K 60.

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NeoGamer2321314d ago

And all cards are not on the table yet.

Neither console as announced an official launch lineup of all games.

We still don't know accessory pricing for XB. Specifically the storage card.

darthv721314d ago

Im seeing rumors the 1tb SSD cart will be $199.99 and larger sizes will be available later on. 2tb, 3tb, 4tb etc.

Looking at pricing for PCIe Gen4 NVME SSD in that size... that's not a bad price for a custom designed cart but obviously something like a samsung 970 evo 1tb NVME M.2 goes for around $170. and prices will come down as more companies compete to release newer and bigger drives.

GamerRN1314d ago

200 for Series X... Sony hasn't announced any expansion memory yet. Sony has said there isn't even anything that will work yet.

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Rhythmattic1314d ago

The X drive expansion is proprietary....... MS tax...
But Sony will allow any brand thats they recommend thats up to spec.. Though one disadvantage is I believe you replace the included PS5 SSD?

DashMad1313d ago

People that think PS5 replacement SSD is cheaper would be in for rude awakening, SSD that up to spec to PS5 SSD rumored to launch at $400 minimum (samsung 980 pro) seriosuly it's ceaper using external HDD for PS5 and Xbox series X in the first 2 year of console life by that time SSD would be cheaper. using off the self random SSD on market would break so many game on PS5 especially first party title that take advantage of PS5 SSD due to not enough speed or performance that slower in real time that what actually writen on product. just hope SONY or someone release list of recomended SSD near the future to avoid someone thinking they brick their system after changing PS5 SSD.

Rhythmattic1312d ago (Edited 1312d ago )

DashMad
Nad Guess what , on launch I imagine it'll be as expensive, if not more than the Series Expansions... And IT SHOULD BE.. Double the Transfer rate... The lastest SSD tech there is...
So whats wrong with it being more expensive ? Its better , faster, Newer Tech! Thus , will cost more....
But..... Here it is..... MS didn't drop the retail price of accessories in the 360 Gen.. Only time was a fire sale.... Like HD-DVD...

With only one option, one thats proprietary, You aint thinking...
To not even consider that by adding a 2nd SSD for the PS5 , Where options are going to be plenty, when? Who knows. it will be more affordable and still have tech Superiority...

To Add... Its been pretty much confirmed. the PS5 has a second slot for the expansion,,

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Marquinho1314d ago

Can't help to think that if Microsoft switched sides with PS (weaker console, rising games prices, secrecy/contradictions) the Series X would've born dead... just like the Xbox One.

Fortunately, that's not the case. They have genuine chances to build their own userbase which is not necessarily stealing those from PS.

Valkron11314d ago

You fanboys will all be crying when Switch 2 comes out with a 3080 chipset in 2021 🤣

Greatball19871313d ago

Very intelligently break down.

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chrisx1314d ago

So simple.
Ps5 if you wanna enjoy high rated exclusive games.
Xbox if you're a die hard xbox fan or like latest gadgets.

Chris121314d ago

PS5 if you like the games Sony produces

Series X if you like the games Microsoft produces.

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RomanPSX1314d ago

Or PS5 for exclusives and Xbox for all other games cause they will run better on the xbox SX.

darthv721314d ago

@both Chris'... if you are someone like me (and dont game on PC) then you get both cause you dont want to miss out on anything.

Livingthedream1314d ago

Very cool Don, but something tells me that if Sony starts releasing their exclusives on pc day one, you won't give up your playstation. Console gamers will choose console over pc most of the time even if games are available on both platforms.

Rimeskeem1314d ago

Or PC and PS5 and you get it all

DonDon30001314d ago

Old gtx 1060 (the Nvidia equivalent of the aforementioned $100-$150 AMD RX 580 card) can do 4k at above 30 fps and supports ray tracing lol (don't believe me? Watch video below). Turn settings down to medium (which new consoles will likely run at) or run at 3k (3440x1440) and games will run at 60 fps. The only advantage consoles have are the ssd gimmick and the tramendously higher vram. In other words, for dirt cheap, one can have an xbox (new or old) equivalent on pc with full xbox controller support, an xbox live account (free) and no xbox live fees. The new xbox makes no sense to me from an exclusives perspective since it will all be on pc anyway. Video of cheap gpu doing 4k 30fps on pc which will share all the same "exclusives" as xbox minus the vsync lag and xbox live fees. Lol.
https://youtu.be/z71NsC8T2d...

bouzebbal1314d ago

That's valid 10years ago.. MS can't produce an average game anymore

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darthv721314d ago

@zero... lol at that GOTY comment. It sounds to me like you only watch academy award nominated films or listen to only grammy award winning artists.

There is more than GOTY games out there that will surprise you. you just have to open your mind.

ProjectVulcan1314d ago

PC if you like the games Microsoft produces.

Sitdown1314d ago

@DonDon3000
You said what Microsoft games, and then literally listed a bunch of Microsoft games? He never said they couldn't be played on PC.

RgR1314d ago

They actually have to produce games.

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anonymousfan1314d ago

What about Switch? lol I am enjoying my Nintendo games at the moment.... I'll probably grab a PS5 when the consoles are in stock and there are enough good games at sub 70$ prices.

Mr_Writer851314d ago

@anonymousfan

The Switch is quite a stand out console, with its first party games, and portability.

Where as there is little difference between the two, and most gamers who really want a Switch have one, and most likely have it as a second console.

This is for the battle to replace their first choice console be that PS4 or Xbox 1

Sirk7x1314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

Switch has definitely carved its own place. Like others say, best as a companion console. Although, once Monster Hunter Rise comes out, I will drop every other game I am playing for at least a month lol.
I think if the Switch got even a $50 price drop, the sales would really pick up, especially during this holiday.

anonymousfan1314d ago

@Mr_Writer85 and Sirk7x I agreed with both of you because I bought my Switch as a second console... And I think I am a rather rare exception but it became my number one console after the birth of my son. I never get the TV for myself because if he is awake we dont want him starring at it and in the evening my wife likes to watch TV. The rare spare time that I get I feel the Switch is perfect for small doses of quality gaming in and out of sleep mode instantaneously :)

Livingthedream1314d ago

Getting both on this end, Xbox with Gamepass is a no brainer for me. Ps5 digital since it's same as the 499 version, to play uncharted, God of war and some ratchet, hoping they bring back Killzone.

DEEHULK881314d ago

DONDON3000 Sony's games that matter will be on Ps4 and PC but they just will hide it until the last minute. God of War will be on Ps4 as well, but again they won't say it yet because fans will be mad. They went out of their way to hide the pc versions of ff16 and souls, so no real reason to get a Ps5 if you have a ps4

Muzikguy1314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

I'm not sure that FFXVI is Sony's game

starchild1314d ago

So simple. Get a PC.
You get all the best looking and best running multiplatform games.
PC exclusives.
Microsoft exclusives.
Some Sony exclusives.
Mods.
Full backwards compatibility.
Freedom to customize how your games look.
Freedom to customize your hardware.
Generally cheaper games.
Free online gaming.

Sirk7x1314d ago

For me, it's Series X for multi-platform and multiplayer games, and then I will get a PS5 once there is a really solid library of exclusives. Although man, Demon Souls looks gooood. Bluepoint is amazing. The price on the games will have dropped by then, and I'll hopefully be able to get one for a good deal. Maybe even refurbished.

Greatball19871313d ago

PS5 if you want the strictest censorship (aside from SJW games). Xbox if you want no censorship (since there's no games to be censored). Hell of a choice we got on our hands here.

GzusKreist1313d ago

PS5 for 200 million dollar cutscenes disguised as games
Xbox X: the most powerful console on the market

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RazzerRedux1314d ago

Nothing is going to change for me. PS5 for exclusives and PC for everything else.

I think it should be pointed out that we do not know the price of expansion storage for these consoles yet. Microsoft hasn't revealed that pricing and there hasn't been any PS5 certified third party SSDs announced yet. We also do not have a clear idea of game pricing either. Seems Sony base price is rising to $70. Microsoft hasn't made any statement on that unless I just missed it. So no, would not say *all* the cards are on the table quite yet.

Nyxus1314d ago

I'm getting a PS5 for exclusives and multiplatform, and plan on getting a Xbox Series X later down the line for its exclusives.

ClayRules20121314d ago

That’s awesome! I hope you really get some new and exciting iPs out’ve the Series X, along with some continuing games from other franchises that you possibly enjoy from Xbox as well!

DonDon30001314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

Xbox doesn't have exclusives. It releases their games on pc the same day and has full integration on windows to use xbox controllers. With exception of perhaps Forza (due to liscensing issues I guess), xbox "exclusives" are released day one on pc with unlocked frame rates, xbox controller support, no Xbox Live fees, and lets u carry your xbox gamer tag over to windows. MS keeps shooting it's console division in the foot, and even a graphics card from 2 generations ago at a fraction of the cost of new xbox's can run 4k at at least 30fps. Minus any gimmicky ray tracing. Edit: oops, it looks like Forza is also on pc too. Yep. Every "exclusive":

https://www.microsoft.com/e...

Tacoboto1314d ago

Only a child is really going to care about obsessing over the definition of "exclusive"

PS4/5 have the best first party exclusives in their ecosystem (can't say PS5 exclusive anymore after HFW flipping)
Xbox Series X has the more powerful hardware, with titles also available on PC and support for 20+ years of Xbox games that are enhanced from their original versions.

"It's also on PC" good grief stop whining and get over it. We know! We get the PC version day and date, not 3 years later in the form of a fully-priced half-assed port that would make even Nintendo's port team look good.

ClayRules20121314d ago

Good points, not “all” the cards are really on the table quite yet indeed. But, in the end, it’ll always be PS5 for me & the family. But awesome you’ll get enjoyment from both PS5/PC for years to come!

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thornh1314d ago

For me PS5 for everything except Hellblade 2 on PC.

starchild1314d ago

Yeah right. Why would I play any multiplatform game on PS5 if I already have a gaming PC?

crazyCoconuts1314d ago

@starchild, Generally don't if your pc is more powerful. Exception might be too play MP with certain friends or you happened to get the game free with PS+, things like that.

RazzerRedux1314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

@starCHILD

Because that is his preference. Why does his preference have to align with yours? What part of "for me" in his sentence has to translate into "why would I" for you?

You need to grow up a bit.

GaboonViper1314d ago

PS5 as my main, XSS a couple years down the line when Fable comes out.

ClayRules20121314d ago

I tell ya, buddy, Fable is like the one and only game that’s got me a little interested in the Series X. But thankfully, my cousin is planning on getting one, and loves Fable. So, I’ll get to play it either way.

jznrpg1314d ago

I would be interested if Fable 3 wasn’t such a boring game . Loved 2 , 1 showed promise and 3 was just not fun at all. I am not hopeful that they will make a good game , but who knows it’s possible . Will it even fee like Fable or just be Fable in name ? Lots of questions since Lionhead shut down years ago .

ClayRules20121314d ago

@jzrnpg

Oh wow, see I didn’t know that studio shut down. That’s too bad. I’m glad you loved 2, but unfortunate about the others for you.

crazyCoconuts1314d ago

Should be interesting to see at that point where XCloud streaming is. Embedded in the core Game Pass product, like it is with PSNow is my guess. If that's the case one doesn't even need to own a console to stream, so you could presumably get Game Pass for a couple months, stream to a TV, and cancel it when you're done with Fable and not have to buy a XSS at all.

GaboonViper1314d ago

Yep i was thinking the same thing.

DarkSniper1314d ago

The choice is very simple. With a multitude of robust next generation titles and an enhanced Virtual Reality experience, it's clear that PlayStation®5 is the superior choice for any gamer who is looking to get the most out of the next generation. While Microsoft is offering a service that is great for those who want to experience the past, Sony is gearing up towards a bright future with PS5 and it's fantastic Ray Tracing abilities and minimal loading times with blazing speed.

Spiderman: Miles Morales and Ratchet & Clank are already looking like future contenders for game of the year which goes to show how strong the PS5 will be this holiday season and in 2021. Dark Sniper is glad to know he made the smart choice this generation by going with PlayStation because he knows that Play Has No Limits.

$niper

Chris121314d ago

Who talks about themselves in third party? And how does MS only offer the past? I despair some times.

ClayRules20121314d ago

You don’t do it? You should try it sometime.

darthv721314d ago

DarkSniper has been a longtime member here and most everyone knows the style the $niper talks in. If you are new to DarkSniper... you will get used to it.

ClayRules20121314d ago (Edited 1314d ago )

@darthv72

That’s so interesting to hear. I honestly can’t say I’ve had the pleasure (to my knowledge) of reading a post of DarkSniper up until today. But man, was that great, unique and entertaining! Cool guy, I say.

ClayRules20121314d ago

Yeah...ummm...😂㈳ 4;😂😂I felt like I was watching in my mind the one and only Arnold schwarzenegger doing a commercial, trying to convince me why buying a PS5 is the greatest decision in he’s ever made in his life, and it will be for me too. Only to than see that shift in my mind to Hulk Hogan take over and finish when you said “ Spiderman: Miles Morales and Ratchet & Clank are already looking like future contenders for game of the year which goes to show how strong the PS5 will be this holiday season and in 2021. Dark Sniper is glad to know he made the smart choice this generation by going with PlayStation because he knows that Play Has No Limits.

$niper” This is where Hulk flexes his muscles and says Yeah, brother😱 I can never unsee that. But it honestly made me laugh. I like your enthusiasm and excitement!!

God bless you man!

ecchiless1314d ago

Been ages since i read one of your post, enjoy the ps5 dark o/

crazyCoconuts1314d ago

PSVR v2 - BIG deal for me, so I really hope that's still in the cards. VR is freekin awesome

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Alone in the Dark Developer Has Been Hit With Layoffs

Alone in the Dark developer Pieces Interactive has been hit with layoffs a month after its release, as per the latest information.

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coolbeans11h ago

That genuinely, genuinely sucks. The reboot has clear flaws, but it really felt like a solid first step for this team to receive *greater* investment.

XiNatsuDragnel5h ago

Alone in the dark is a fun game so that's unfortunate

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Venturing into a post-apocalyptic world, Bandai Namco resurrects the forgotten treasure, Sand Land: will it capture the magic of the Manga?

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I enjoyed the demo so I'll be picking this up. The gameplay made me think of Metal Max Xeno so it sold me on it.

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cliveo3215h ago

Lol who is offended by it 1 percent of crying snowflakes of course..

blackblades8h ago

What did it mean? Considering I'm in my own world these days.

Christopher5h ago

Hard R is typically a reference to the N-word with the hard r at the end.

Eonjay5h ago

Do you really not know this is about the n-word or are you saying that black people can't get offended because it upsets you?

blackblades6m ago

I'm black I didnt know what it was, didnt know what DEI was or baby ink whatever it is. As I said in my own lane I don't keep up with new shyt these days

Christopher5h ago

I can't believe they're censoring this game on day 1. Games just aren't the same.

/s in case it's needed. I'm fine with them making these changes that they might not have known is culturally insensitive to some people in the big ole world. But that's just me.

VersusDMC5h ago

They are censoring something that is deemed offensive by Journalists quoting the offensive term verbatim. They are typing it intentionally in articles while in the game it's a wall texture saying Hard next to a unrelated 3d model sign that says R store. Is it offensive or not? Crazy town.

At least IGN just shows the term with a screenshot of the game. Because it's their "discovery" and to not show hypocrisy in their HUGE vitue signal.
Hard R is the not offensive way to describe an offensive term. Are they going to type "Ha$$ R" or not use the term now?

Christopher5h ago

Oh, hey, I agree with you that IGN and other journalists are dumb. Not disagreement there. But, I think for a game going out to millions of people across the world? It's not something they want associated with them. It's just horrific PR.

Tacoboto4h ago

Add to the horrific PR nightmare that this is the first major Korean-developed Sony-published title, if I'm not mistaken.

There aren't that many Korean developed titles in general. And the allowance of this only would drive a bigger fissure in east vs west especially after Final Fantasy XVI released featuring no black characters at all...

Not a good look for Sony regardless of how you personally feel about it or the people that talk about it.

VersusDMC3h ago

I'm not saying it shouldn't have been changed. It's an easy fix and looks like it was an easy fix.

But the word HARD being too close to the letter R being a horrific PR nightmare and a indication of a racist developer is beyond crazy.

Christopher2h ago

I only think they would be seen as an insensitive developer if they were informed of its implications and didn't remove it. I don't think it's a bad thing to not want to have an unintentional message in your game.

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TriniOutsider53m ago(Edited 50m ago)

It's all fake outrage journalists are looking for everything and anything to accuse the developers of sexualization of the female body and racism now. Yet, Hard R has nothing to do with race.

Some of these journalists seem to dislike Asian people and it's starting to show more and more now.

Stevonidas5h ago

Pre-order cancelled. They were so close.... then they had to go and bend the knee.

Eonjay4h ago

If you can't enjoy the game without knowing there are racial slurs plastered on the walls, you might actually be the snowflake.

romulus233h ago

There were no racial slurs plastered on the walls.

Tacoboto4h ago

"Hey why didn't you get that game? I heard it's got that hot Korean chick?"

"I was gonna, but then they removed a reference to the N word!"

TriniOutsider49m ago

There was no reference to the N-word.

SeTTriP2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

So this could be misconstrued as a offensive slur to a group of people they patched it out no harm no foul and now your not buying the game because this effected YOU in a negative way?
I'm confused.your offended because they didn't want to offend anyone says a lot about you more then the studio.

Crows904h ago

I'm offended by the sight of blood a d violence and find violence to be very insensitive...

We can all play stupid and pretend to be offended by graphics and fake worlds.

DFresh3h ago

I really enjoyed the demo.
I'm going to play through and max out on story mode then go to the challenge mode afterwards.
This game is very challenging but fun.
Especially for timing on the parrying and blocking.
Got the Deluxe Digital Edition (PS5) pre ordered.
:)

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