AMD showcases Radeon RX 6000 graphics card design

AMD has officially confirmed the design of its Radeon RX 6000 graphics card.

[RaidenBlack]

They also revealed it in Fortnite.
Its still HBM2, right?

[Fishy Fingers]

Unlikely, they havent since the VII and the (rumoured) Big Navi engineering sample leaks didnt. Probably GDDR6/GDDR6X like Nvidia.

[RaidenBlack]

Well HBM2 is used in Radeon's top tier cards and AMD hasn't launched any gaming-centric top tier cards after Radeon VII. So obviously no HBM2 equipped cards since the VII.
The top tier Radeon RX 6000 might come with HBM2. Escpecially because they market the top tier one as both as a gaming card as well as a card for productivity.

[Dabigsiebowski]

Raiden are you ok? The 5xxx series (RDNA 1.0) has been out now for over a year and is essentially a little better 1080 if not on par.

[RaidenBlack]

@Dabigsiebowski
5700XT was targeted at RTX 2070, kinda matched it but failed to match the 2070 Super.
So yea it beats out 1080 but it doesn't compete with 2080 does it?
So it ain't top-tier card as I was referring too?

[Vits]

Rumors say that they dropped HBM2. But given how "bad" the Radeon VII got with age. I don't think that is much of a loss.

[ProjectVulcan]

HBM2 is too expensive for cards that will probably struggle to compete with Nvidia's top parts. Especially if you want 16GB of it. Margins would be thinner than thin.

Speculation has it AMD already had to lower the retail price of these parts immediately after Nvidia's reveal showed they were heavily up against it.

Expect AMD's top card to lie between the 3070 and the 3080 in performance and be priced in that gap as well. Problem is Nvidia already anticipated that move as well, and will probably offer up another nasty surprise for AMD in terms of a 3070Ti before too long.

[yeahokwhatever]

you're a little behind on the leakage. It'll be trading blows in games directly with the 3080.

[anubusgold]

@yeahokwhatever I will believe it when i see it. I miss ATI they would kick Nvidias ass every once in awhile. Since they got bought by AMD they have always been behind. I miss ATI they need to be let go and be their own company again they never let Nvidia get this far ahead.

[RaidenBlack]

@yeahokwhatever
AMD marketed the Radeon VII aggressively as the RTX 2080 rival back then, pricing it very closely to the RTX.
But performance was somewhere between RTX 2070 and 2080. Only in titles particularly AC Odyssey, Monster Hunter and Shadow of Tomb Raider did the Radeon VII had neck-n-neck performance with 2080. For every other games it lagged behind quite a bit.
So, the RX6000 "trading blows in games directly with the 3080" .... can't at all be affirmed until 3rd party benchmarks comes out.

[ProjectVulcan]

Leakage says the top part will be behind the 3080 still, but well ahead of the 3070.

Hence the 3070Ti prepared and waiting in the background.

[RaidenBlack]

@ProjectVulcan
Silently waiting in the shadows. The Party Crasher.

[Binarycode]

nope gddr6

[Binarycode]

GDDR6

[Vits]

Look pretty cool, though not as much as the GTX 3000 founders edition.

[specialguest]

I never liked the look of Nvidia founders edition cards, but the 3000 series looks like a solid piece of art

[Zombieburger638]

This gen is weird. To me all the 3rd party cards look hideous but somehow the founders is one of the best looking cards ever. 2020 sure is a strange year.

[RaidenBlack]

@Zombieburger638
Yea, I absolutely agree with you mate.
This has always been the opposite. Nvidia nailed the reference design this year.

[Hakuoro]

I'm really interested to see their presentation and hear the price/performance ratio.

[FPSFox]

I want the rumored 3000 series that's going to drop with double the VRAM once these have been on the market for a while... I straight refuse to get excited for AMD cards. They've been under-delivering for a decade at this point. If they launch something that can compete in the high-end and step up their driver game out of the dumpster, I'll be the first to buy as I'm tired of Nvidia continuing to nudge prices up... but I won't hold my breath.

[Father__Merrin]

AmD have always beaten out Nvidia on low low-mid and definitely mid rangers. The only place Nvidia has beaten out AMD is enthusiast and high end cards.

5700xt is better than 2070 for example, Vega 56/64 better than 1070/ti so on and so forth, But as long as one has the high end locked down it just becomes more fashionable to have Nvidia as the goto card because of that.

I hope the new big Navi beats out or at least matches the 3000 cards

[FPSFox]

It's not all about raw power though, man. AMD drivers have been a mess for a good while now.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[DashMad]

The thing is AMD only good for gaming if you using it for deep learning,video editing, even RX 5700XT fall bellow RTX 2060 make it hard pass for some gamer that also using GPU for work if you don't believe me just look for Premiere Pro benchmark.

[yeahokwhatever]

its gonna be fun. :-) getting a 4xxx ryzen and a 6800xt :-) for sure.

[yeahokwhatever]

who tf is using a 2060 for professional work? lol

[anubusgold]

@FPSFox I never had problems with AMD cards bit the last amd cards i had was the rx 480 and the 280x cards i had no problems with the drivers. Even when i had 3 ATI 4870 cards i had no problems with drivers it was games supporting my 3 cards was the problem i mostly played Battlefield games at the time and crossfire worked well in multiplayer for them.

[RaidenBlack]

AMD drivers causes serious headaches during GPU launches actually.

[RaidenBlack]

AMD drivers have become notoriously buggy recently. And it takes them quite a few months to get them fixed.
5700XT had the throttling issue at launch. A subsequent driver update fixed it.
It was supposed to beat RTX 2070 and it did came close to it but alas, Nvidia launched RTX 2070 Super at similar price point and hence 5700XT kinda flopped.

[Father__Merrin]

5700xt give higher frame rates than a 2070 whilst being cheaper. The 2070s gives a little higher frame rates but it costs £499 approximately.

I'm personally looking forward to how much the prices drop all round of older cards once the new ones are out, as if the 3070 will be 499 etc the rest will drop a lot

[Sophisticated_Chap]

A reveal in a kids game?

[Killa78]

One of the most popular games of our time....

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Yeah, one of the most popular kids games.... that's what I said.

[Sarcasm]

It actually looks very nicely designed, but we all have to wait to see how it performs.

[anubusgold]

Amd may reach 3070 levels performance they wont reach the 3080 im calling it now these new gpus dont have the enough Cu cores like always. Im not sure what amd is doing but they cant get to 3080 performance with that few Cu cores its the 5700xt all over again.