Strange Nintendo decisions: Super Mario 3D All-Stars is a limited release, Super Mario Galaxy 2 is AWOL, and full price ports on Switch.
Good question. For a company with such light-hearted, happy-go-lucky franchises, they sure can be a shady bunch.
So they are the Disney of videogames afterall.
Nintendo equals rubbish
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@gLitch-X- Is that supposed to be a joke? Shadow of the Colossus and Demon's Souls are ground-up remakes, both done by Sony.
Gaming is about games. Because Nintendo make great games, gamers buy their products.
A good game doesn't make the shitty practices they use to sell it good. Shitty business practice is shitty business practice. It only makes it worse that this Mario 35 bundle isn't even good in the sense that they haven't even been remastered in any way other than resolution. Even Activision remade both Crash and Spyro trilogies from the ground up and only charged £30. Imagine Activision released the OG PS1 games on PS4 for £50 and told everyone to buy it within a limited window? It would have caused a crazy backlash. I love Nintendo's games but I'm sick of the free pass they get with BS that noone else would get away with.
Nintendo gets away with everything.
I don't know why their fans enjoy being apart of an abusive relationship.
I don't agree with their decisions, but I like their games.
@notoriouswhiz If you like and buy their games, you are agreeing with all of Nintendo's decisions bro...
I don't know why people in abusive relationships enjoy being in an abusive relationship either. So, that sounds about right. It obviously makes more sense to them than it does to everyone else.
"If you like and buy their games, you are agreeing with all of Nintendo's decisions bro..." I really have no idea if this is sarcasm or not.
@notorious Because you are rewarding them by continuing to consume their products regardless. They have no reason to change when they have millions of people who think like you do. In fact, most don't even think it's a problem in the first place, because their mind never asked themselves "Why am I paying full price for old games/ports?" or "Why is this release limited in the first place?" Nintendo knows this and abuses it to no end.
@Rachel Got it. Like how all Xbox owners support paying to play free games online. And how all PS4 owners support Sony's censorship of games.
Yes just like that. You can't disagree with their decisions because you still buy them. It matters not how you feel when buying their product, it matters that you bought it in the first place. It's like saying your vote doesn't matter, when the reason it doesn't matter in the first place is because nobody has the nuts to spread any of this into the real world. Mostly just sticking to internet forums and what else, the only people who use those sites frequently are few in number and they never take off due to this. There's no push to go beyond these closed spaces. The other things you mentioned with Sony has more way negative effects on the studios then consumers could ever feel, in addition to the issue only affecting one demographic of people, so that might not be a similar comparison.
yup, come here to say that
Even this article calling them out goes easy on them, the title says 'strange business decisions' but if it were Sony doing it they'd say 'anti-consumer practices'.
The problem is that most people just don't care. In a way, they aren't giving Nintendo a pass because that conversation isn't even happening for them and no "decision" is arrived at. The problem with people who don't care either way is that it is, well, hard to get them to care lol. Its the same with CoD and Fifa etc. Most people aren't recognizing the faults and the shady stuff and THEN saying "ok thats fine". They don't even get to that step. They literally DO NOT CARE and that is a very hard thing to defeat. How would you make them care?
Do you have to make anyone care about anything? It's your ideology that dictates that others should care about shit. Live and let live and please, let others don't care about things about which you care but they don't. Regarding Nintendo and their practices: I think they are not nearly as bad as GaaS. So should everyone care about this now? Or maybe, just maybe that is just my opinion...
ewe GaaS. The game that keeps charging you then slowly or abruptly takes away said content. GaaS can get F'd. At least the way it's been presented thus far.
You aren’t wrong at all all with your GaaS comment
Yeah, but everyone already rails on GaaS, outside of a few Xbox fans, no one is really giving it a pass.
Nintendo is a brand that only needs to put its name in order to sell, it doesn't matter if the device or thing is good or garbage in the end it will sell some cause of the pure name only, Nintendo long ago forgot what gaming quality is, and currently is trying to move forward by exploiting the gamers nostalgia, and the current perfect example of it is that Mario Collection, "oh Mario this and that, so good , blah blah BS", if you think for a second and look what Nintendo has offered in the past months all the way to the past year you will realize their gaming library is really pathetic, but yet again here we are clamoring for Nintendo on how good it is cause the release of more freaking Mario games?, daaamnn seriously people let's higher up the game standards of Nintendo, the only reason why Nintendo won't make a decent gaming console is because of people keep buying their cheap devices and this is only because is name and not because the quality of their games, cause if were of the games with its currently library definitely that cheap device would stay on the retailers shelf for who knows how much time.
"Nintendo is a brand that only needs to put its name in order to sell, it doesn't matter if the device or thing is good or garbage in the end it will sell some cause of the pure name only" Oh yeah, you're absolutely right. That worked out so well for the Wii U. It just flew right off the shelves because Nintendo's name was on the box.
Please don't bring facts into this discussion, they aren't welcome here.
They sabatoged themselves with bad marketing on that one.
The gamecube and the N64 really sold on the basis of that name too.
I'm not gonna sit here and defend all their business practices, because I'm not paying $60 for that Mario collection, nor do I think it should be a limited offer. To say though, that they long ago forgot what gaming quality is, while taking into consideration how good most of their first-party games are, is just not true. Mario Odyssey and BotW alone are two of the best games to come out in the last 10 years. This year has been pretty shitty in general for gaming; What great games have come out this year? It's a small list, and many of them are contentious. Last of Us, FF7 Remake, Doom Eternal. Make a list of the top ten best games that came out this year, no one's going to be talking about most of them in a few years. If new consoles weren't coming out in a couple months, we'd all have hardly anything to look forward to. Same goes with movies, shows, concerts, etc. 2020 has sucked balls.
"Nintendo is a brand that only needs to put its name in order to sell" The Power glove, Virtual Boy and Wii U would like to have a word with you. But yeah, Nintendo often gets a free pass for their stupid policies that would incite e-riots if Sony or MS or any other publisher did the same thing.
The Power Glove was by Mattel
Not to mention Gamecube, which had low sales, and, despite everyone's revisionist history about how they all had it as a kid, Nintendo 64 didn't sell very well either in comparison to the PS1.
@JustTheFax Sure it was manufactured by Mattel but it was a licensed product of Nintendo and it's only associated with Nintendo. If you ever brought up the Power Glove, people would think Nintendo, not Mattel and that's the point. Just because Nintendo's name is either on it or associated with it, doesn't mean it will sell well.
Considering they no longer have to support 2 distinct platforms, like Wii U and 3DS, their recent offerings are a joke. Port after lazy port. Makes you wonder what they will do next gen. Arms Deluxe 4K??
This comment really ages you, you're either 15 or a developmentally stunted adult.
“Aside from some notable exceptions, a lot of classic Nintendo games have never made it off of their original consoles. That’s the case for Sunshine and Galaxy, which have only been released for GameCube and Wii respectively up until now.” Except Super Mario Galaxy did in fact get rereleased on Wii U along with Super Mario Galaxy 2 & Super Mario 64 DS. “And while one hopes that our Switch digital libraries will carry over onto whatever hardware Nintendo has planned for the future, there’s certainly a chance that that won’t be the case.” It’d be very shitty for Nintendo to not let that be the case. But when it comes to Nintendo you expect to get treated shitty in various ways that’s impossible to comprehend
I would be SHOCKED if Switch digital purchases carried over to the next Nintendo console. The majority of their business model is selling people games they’ve already bought (often a game they’ve already bought multiple times) and sadly I don’t see that changing. Nintendo will do it again with the next console and Nintendo enthusiasts will just shrug and say, “Well that’s Nintendo” while opening their wallets and nothing will change.
Well, wii digital purchases carried over to the Wii u. And DSi purchases carried over to the 3DS. It depends on whether it's backwards compatible I think. It'd be better if they did something like Smart delivery or, if they do add extra content, a freaking discount
I still can’t believe they’ve been getting away with making the faulty Joy-con controller for so long. Once the controller has been used for a while, it WILL drift on you and in most cases eventually become unusable. I only play my Switch docked now with a Pro controller as I have 3 unusable left joy-cons.
Send them in. They sent me two new one for free.
Fanbase obsessed with nostalgia.
because its not a big deal
because gamers are weak
Idk but I wish people would stop. When we get remakes/remasters like Shadow of the Colossus, Ratchet & Clank, Tony Hawk, Spyro and Crash Trilogies, etc and they are all priced at $30 - $40 I don't know how anyone excuses Nintendo. $60 for some of the laziest port work I've ever seen and they keep doing it. Pikmin 3, DKC TF, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, this Mario Collection. It's really sad that people just keep eating it up.
Mystery dungeon is actually a solid remake, honestly. Completely remade graphics. Pikmin 3 has the coop mode, so that's *nice*. But DKC:TF was a straight slap in the face. Really? All we get is funky kong? If they would have included a remaster of Donkey Kong Country Returns it would have been fine...but just Funky?
“And while so many AAA games on other consoles are riddled with microtransactions and other money-making webs, it still feels like when you buy a Nintendo game, you’re buying an entire package.” An entire $60 package that’ll always be sold at full price years after release. Plus Nintendo rarely ever releases GOTY editions of their games on the same platform so the DLC will be sold separately until Nintendo releases a GOTY edition on another platform
The fact this is limited even digitally is inexcusable... Nintendo is not above anything and this Mario collection is another blemish. It's gross and shouldn't happen
Never can find any of their games on sale, maybe once in a blue moon for like $10 off but that's it. Limited releases, limited console releases, low stock of pretty much everything, amiibos low on stock or only released with limited quantities ie. Player 2 versions...it goes on and on. They have their fanbase in an abusive relationship and I just don't understand it.
As much as I like Nintendo games, this is the thing that regularly pisses me off about them, and what's worse is they do it consistently. I've just been wish listing games and waiting for those sales to make the money stretch, hence why my Switch game collection is much smaller than the PS4/PC.
Short Answer most of us sane gamers been shouting for this to stop, but nintendo enthusiast will continue to buy because its Nintendo....
Congrats nintendo on selling a highly wanted series of games to scalpers, from which you will earn no money from.
I try not to. I have not bought very many first party titles because they're not worth $80CAD to me after 6 months or more. But, then you have Nintendo essentially blackmail even me by effectively saying "buy these games now or who knows if you'll see them again on Switch". Of course, I can't get along with diehard Nintendo fans because I don't blindly praise everything Nintendo does. I of course have some fondness for them. There's some nostalgia there for their games and franchises, as well as some of their old systems, and I think they produce decent titles even to this day. But, when a company manages to be more evil than MS, I have to call them out on their BS. It comes from a place of love, because I am enough of a fan of Nintendo that I want it to be at its best, and it frustrates me to no end that it not only isn't, but that much of its fanbase applauds it for being objectively worse in many ways than it was in the past.
Because no video game character is as iconic as mario? The limited thing tells everybody that knows mario to go and get one asap which is smart af because everyone EVER knows mario. You can't do this with any other character/franchise it won't have the same results. I know it doesn't have galaxy 2 but i wasn't expecting direct sequels to be included- seems like it's a bundle of "a 3D mario game for each generation collection" not "..and a part 2 i guess"
They have cute faces but behind the scenes the serious cutthroat business going on as usual. Only Nintendo can get away with such decisions just because they have cute mascots and family friendly images. Reminded me of one particular The Powerpuff Girls episode.
This is a real topic. I love my Nintendo exclusives and AAA titles just as much as the next man, but could you imagine if Nintendo reaaaallly competed? Man I’d carry out some questionable missions to see ANY Nintendo major title with next gen graphics. Pulling out the master sword in the lost woods would be absolutely epic. Fighting Ridley (again) would be incredible. Firing that 4K red turtle shell in VR MARIO KARY!?! Gasm.... But good old Nintendo. You always make me say what if and never wow they actually did it.
I guess I’d be considered a Nintendo fanboy, but I’m frankly not interested in this. Maybe if it had Galaxy 2 and it was $10 cheaper I might. Most of you weren’t going to get this anyhow. I’m not sure why people have ruffled feathers over something like this. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. Collectors items are frequently limited. Go play a game and quit bitching over dumb sht
Because at the end of the day, we’re just all sheep’s and a bunch of FOMOs.
Simple answer. Don’t like what they do sometimes? Don’t buy the game. There’s no “free pass” BS, like there’s some bias. They’re a private company, they can market, include, develop whatever they want, no one has to like it or is entitled to have it made a certain way. Will the games be entertaining? Absolutely. Could they be done “better” for certain groups of gamers who expect different features and enhancements? Sure. But was anyone entitled to this updated compilation in the first place? I for one am glad its a set I can buy on Switch, even though I still have all the original copies of the games.
Nintendo have always been the most anti-consumer game company in the business. They keep shitting on their fanbase but the fanbase keeps eating it up.
It's not strange really. They have no major holiday AAA game. So what do they do? They create a panic for a remaster game people will want. Let's face it, the game would sell well anyway, but how many people like myself, have pre ordered only because they don't want to pay scalper prices down the line? If the game wasn't limited run I may of gotten it second hand, or waited a year or two and got the digital version Those two slightly cheaper options are gone. Leaving, buy it now, or pay scalper prices. It's a dick move, but in terms of business it makes sense. What the title should be saying is "why do Nintendo get a free pass for treating it's customers with contempt " The answer to that is "because people allow them to"
A comment to some comments: Nintendo, Apple, Disney = quality. Thats why. I rather pay 60dollars for mario games, then 30 dollars for a the last of us collection in 4K. Some will hate this comment, but the sales Speaks for itself.
I don't. The wiiu was the last straw for me
The SNES was the last for me.
I find it mysterious as fuck why since release each store gets like 1 Switch a month.
I always find it weird, reading comments like yours, that there is an apparent shortage in the US while in Europe you can find them anywhere easily.
They’ve released 3 exclusives since March, they might not be your thing, Animal Crossing is a bore imo but it’s still a critically acclaimed game that sold in barrow loads. Xenoblade and Paper Mario being the others, their first party games almost never go on sale this is accurate, however they do hold their value quite well. For example a quick check on Game in the UK has the 3 year old BOTW getting you £33 store credit or £29.70 cash. The less than 6 months old LOU2 brings in £19.50 credit or £15.60 cash. Horizon Zero Dawn, a 2017 release like Zelda gets you £4.30 credit or £3.50 cash. It’s like if you buy a VW Golf hatchback, you’ll pay more than someone who bought a Vauxhall or Renault etc equivalent but the VW gets you more back at the other end. Noticed Game is also doing a deal where BOTW and Minecraft gets you Mario 3D All Stars for 99p, how many PS or Xbox games of that age would you need to get that much credit.
I expect most of you trolling Nintendo buy EA and Ubisoft crap every year. They are the two worst companies ever for exploting gamers. If you don't like what Nintendo are doing don't buy the game. Stop ball aching and move on. I preordered the Mario collection cause I want it and I can afford it simple as that.
Why do we keep getting articles claiming Nintendo are getting a pass for something? Pretty sure there has been universal criticism of this latest issue, what do these commentators want, government involvement or a public enquiry?
Because there are so many people who work for large gaming sites/outlets that 'grew up on a nintendo', and in their rose tinted glasses the flawless Nintendo can do no wrong, they are absolutely held to a different standard than practically any other publisher, shitty anti-consumer practices such as this should be rightfully called out.
Something I've been asking for years, Nintendo just gets a pass on anything, and I have no idea why.