Introducing NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series Graphics Cards

GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs also feature several world firsts: they’re the first gaming-class graphics cards with up to 24GB of new, blazing-fast GDDR6X VRAM; they’re the first GPUs with HDMI 2.1, for 4K high refresh rate and 8K gaming; they’re the first discrete GPUs with support for the AV1 codec, enabling you to watch high-resolution streams using significantly less bandwidth; and our Founders Edition cards are the first with innovative dual axial flow through cooling solutions.

[Doge]

tbh I expected this to cost upwards of $1000. $700 is actually pretty flippin' good??

[Adexus]

The 3070 performs better than the 2080Ti and it's 499, it's actually insane, never expected prices to be this low but I'm so hyped.

[ABizzel1]

NVIDIA marketing at it's best, if you look at the slides they're comparing the RTX 3000 to the RTX 2000 specially when both GPUs are using Ray Tracing and DLSS. I suspect a different story if we're talking RAW performance excluding those 2 features as most games still don't have support for both especially DLSS. But it makes sense to compare them since those 2 huge improvements between the 3000 series and the 2000 series are the main selling points.

That being said these cards are still an amazing value compared to the RTX 2000. Looking at the RAW specs the 3070 is basically an overclocked 2080s that cost $200 less with better memory and a lower TDP, the 3080 is basically an overclocked 2080 ti that cost $300 - $500 less with faster memory, but 1GB less and a higher TDP. So in RAW performance, we're only getting a stair-step boost in these GPUs, but as more games start to use Ray Tracing and DLSS, these cards will really start to shine.

[airshiraz]

i exepected this totally.first gen of new revolutionary techs are always crap.as happened to first gen of ray tracing cards .like first gen of led tv first gen of oled tvs ..... its just a prototype that they demand money for .

[ProjectVulcan]

"If you look at the slides they're comparing the RTX 3000 to the RTX 2000 specially when both GPUs are using Ray Tracing and DLSS"

Well ABizzel1 you need to get yourself over to Digital Foundry that provide comparable numbers with other games.

Borderlands 3 and Doom Eternal don't have ray tracing. Control numbers shown were both with ray tracing/DLSS and without. Still showed massive gains in excess of 80 percent @ native 4K for the former.

Besides the fact that ray tracing performance MATTERS significantly at this point, if the consoles are using it on the majority of titles lightly it'll be plastered with much higher quality all over the PC versions.

The dawn of industry wide real time ray tracing is upon us, the benchmarks with it enabled are the entire point frankly, so I don't see it as a valid complaint. You can't separate raw raster performance from ray tracing anymore when it comes to next gen games, it'll be too prevalent.

[Aeery]

Prices sounds pretty decent (at least are not crazy like the 20x series).
I can't wait to have a 3090 inside my case!

[CaptainHenry916]

They had to lower the price because of AMD. I always go with Nvidia for the GPU

"our Founders Edition cards are the first with innovative dual axial flow through cooling solutions."

Does that mean MSI and other versions won't have the dual axial flow?

[LordoftheCritics]

Yess finally time to build a new pc.

The power jump is sweet.

[UltraNova]

Oh man if Nvidia is to believed on the performance jump in combination with the, dare I say, consumer-friendly(ier) pricing then AMD's big Navi better be their biggest performance leap ever and even then I doubt they'll be able to even come close to Nvidia's 3000 series top dogs.

It will be a very interesting fall, to say the least!

[vTuro24]

To be fair the 2080ti was overpriced to begin with, which makes the 3070 look like a bargain. 10/10 marketing.

Not that I think the 3070 is a bad deal by any means mind you, I'm actually considering getting one myself for Cyberpunk.

[bouzebbal]

My problem with pc gaming is, the power goes exclusively in the graphics.. I wish there is an improvement of the AI and immersion aspects in general.. RDR2 is the same super stiff game regardless of the platform you're gaming on.. Doesn't justify the investment for me.. Maybe due to my long consume gaming history..

[KTF26]

What's insane?
we should stop thinking like that
2080 Ti is 2 years old

[Jin_Sakai]

Those are some powerful GPUs. That 3090 price though!

RTX 3070 ($499) 20TF - 40RT TF - 8GB G6X
RTX 3080 ($699) 30TF - 58RT TF - 10GB G6X
RTX 3090 ($1,499) 36TF - 69RT TF - 24GB G6X

[Mr Logic]

3070 is G6 not G6X

[XxINFERNUSxX]

I know that 3070 20 TFLOPs it's crazy. Double PS5 and almost double series x, the 3080 & 3090 are beyond another level of performance.

[ProjectVulcan]

3080 is crushingly fast though.

It'll obliterate either next gen console, especially with ray tracing enabled. Which is kind of the point.

It costs that much because it's that much faster.

[CaptainHenry916]

It makes the consoles gpu specs sound weak. 30TF is insane. 4K 120fps is coming

[Unspoken]

8K 60 fps appeared to be a target for the 3090.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@ProjectVulcan,

That's still good pricing for what it is though, finally something I can replace the 1080 ti with.

[anonymousfan]

It's crazy! A 500 graphics card destroys PS5 and XSX (at least on paper) before they are even released.

I know consoles are in a different market but with that new bit of info from NVIDIA I dont want to pay more than 500 for a next gen console...

[Father__Merrin]

That 500 is for a gpu only....

[Thatgrammar]

@anonymousfan

It doesn’t seem crazy. It makes sense to me. The graphics card is $500 alone. The PS5 is rumored to be $400(w/o disc slot)-$500 (w/ disc slot). The Xbox Series X is rumored to be $500-$600. The Nvidia gpu is not including all of the other features in the PS5/XboxSX. If you were to build a pc with this gpu and then came close to matching the other specs it would be over $1,000. Also, pc’s have been more powerful than consoles for a while now. PS4 and Xbox One were not more powerful than the most powerful pc you could build at the time.

Here is a link to the comparable parts and their prices (subtract $100 from his overall estimate since you could use the RTX3070 in place of his chosen gpu):
https://pcpartpicker.com/li...

Here is the link to the youtube video:
https://youtu.be/JC7YlA3ANz...

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Yes, these graphics cards will kill the PS5 and Series X, but for what the consoles will cost, they represent great value and performance for the money. The next gen consoles, are after all, top of the line when compared to the top GPUs out on the market right now, and that's pretty damn good.

[anubusgold]

@Thatgrammar I already have a computer you on some nonsense im just buying the card. And a whole lot of people already have a computer . My sister has a computer as well just needs a graphics card i may just buy her a 3070 her cpu is still good people are still gaming on quad cores fine from 8 years ago . A 7700k is still not a bottleneck to this day and some people are still getting great fps on 2000 series cpus with their overclocks i wouldnt do that but plenty of videos on youtube show they still work well. Intel held everyone back for 10 years and it still shows with games not really maxing out more than 4 cores still.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Looks like I received some disagrees from the comment I made, saying that next gen consoles are top of the line when compared to the top tier GPUs on the market today. Those disagrees are justified, as some people have pointed out, the PS5 is about as powerful as an RX 5700XT, which isn't great, but it should still be a descent console none the less.

[ProjectVulcan]

The RTX3070 alone has theoretically triple the ray tracing performance of xbox series X

Nvidia dropped the mic on ray tracing against the consoles.

[Giblet_Head]

@Father__Merrin And? People investing early in these typically aren't building entire new systems for them.

[MadLad]

@merrin

Yes, Merrin. When you want higher end things you pay higher end prices. I don't pay for a Civic, expecting the thing to run like a Ferrari.

All the same, you were running your mouth on the state of the PC market, as you always do, claiming you'll need a three thousand dollar gaming machine to run the upcoming cards, and this happened.

Now it's just you backpedaling with "but, but, but a gaming PC will still cost you more than a console!!!"

Duh, Merrin. Duh. Excellent observation.

[outsider1624]

500$ is just for the gpu alone. Factor in the the parts of a PC. And you can't even skim on other parts too. A mobo, ssd, ram, processor. And we haven't included the kbm, cabinet, smps.

[RazzerRedux]

@outsider1624

"Factor in the the parts of a PC."

No need. As @Giblet_Head said, PC gamers can upgrade their PC and not have to rebuild every single time. That's the beauty of PC gaming.

[Rainbowcookie]

For $499 you can take that powerful card...put it on the table and dream about the games you wanna play. No ram not even a mouse. The whole point of consoles are ease of use, power on a budget and game franchises to bring in the dough. Pc always was powerful and will be going foward, but it makes some developers lazy. The just add more hardware mentality costs consumers. Developers also sell less since piracy takes a cut of their hard earned work. If Microsoft and Sony cared about the best hardware im sure they could achieve it, but the catch is to keep the price down on a unit that has the same specs for everyone. I wont buy a $1200 console and they know it. Getting a rumoured $500 price is already an achievement

[VivaLaManual]

You realize it takes more than a GPU to build a PC, right? Your comparison makes no sense.

[FlyingFoxy]

The 3080 looks very powerful and a good price/performance, the step up to a 3090 is just not worth it IMO unless they have purposefully gimped the lower cards with not enough VRAM. 10GB might be enough but I'm not sure yet.. However I'll be using one at 1440p for those high frame rates.

[CaptainHenry916]

Hmm PCIe Gen4 graphics cards. Intel doesn't even support that feature yet but AMD does

[RazzerRedux]

The RTX 3070 is as powerful as the 2080ti and costs $500.

[RaidenBlack]

RTX 3070 is now the de facto "sweet-spot"

[RazzerRedux]

Incredible value. But I'm definitely going to put in the extra $200 for 3080.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at AMD HQ right now.

[RaidenBlack]

Yeah the 3080 looks so tempting now ... 😋

[ABizzel1]

@RazzerRedux

I think AMD will be okay if the rumors are to be believed, well at least in Raw performance.

We know AMD has a 40CU and 56CU RDNA 2 GPU (basically the PS5 and Series X GPUs), and AMD also likely has much higher clock speeds than NVIDIA since the RTX 3000 series is around 1.7 GHz across the board on boost clock, but the Series X is 1.85 and PS5 up to 2.23, and the current RX 5700 XT is just under 2 GHz.

So let's say all the AMD GPUs are around 2GHz. That puts the 40CU GPU at just over 10TFs, and the 56CU card at 14.336TFs. Which makes them great competitors against NVIDIA's RTX 3070.

The big question is if Big Navi is only 64CU or the rumored 80CU. At 64CU it puts them in the ballpark of the RTX 3080, however, an 80CU card puts them in the ballpark of the RTX 3090.

IMO I think we'll see a 40CU, 56CU, 64CU, and 80CU card from them, to compete on all fronts.

The problem with AMD will be 2 things.

1. They simply won't be able to compete neck and neck when RayTracing is involved. AMD's solution has been consistently rumored to be on par with Turing and slightly better in some aspects where the RTX 3000s series is easily showing to be 2x as good as Turing. Add DLSS to that equation and in those games and NVIDIA takes a commanding lead.

2. When will AMD be able to get the competing cards to market. NVIDIA will have all 3 GPUs out by mid-October, and possibly a RTX 3060 before November. AMD has to prove they can get all 4 of those GPUs out before the holiday season kicks off, or else they lose any ground they could have made.

So in RAW performance and probably price AMD should be okay if the rumors are true, but in features and added benefits AMD is a step behind NVIDIA.

[ABizzel1]

Almost, it's NVIDIA marketing they are specifically comparing the RTX 3000 series with the RTX 2000 series when games are using Ray Tracing and DLSS. In that situation, the 3070 is faster than the 2080 ti, but in raw specs, the 3070 is nearly identical to the 2080s with a higher clock speed, which makes it almost as powerful as the 2080ti.

Still an amazing value for this card and the 3080 for that matter, when this level of performance was literally around 2x the cost of the 3070 just months ago.

[TheOptimist]

If you have a simple look at the CUDA core increase between Turing and Ampere, you'll know what you are saying is false. It might not be a 100% increase, but it is far more than a stair step increase.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

The 3070 (20 TFLOPS with 5888 Cores @1730Mhz) is more powerful than the 2080TI (13.5 TFLOPs with 4352 Cores @1545Mhz). I think the RTX 3060 should be in around the performance of the 2080TI, but will cost $399 USD. The 3060 will be the deal of the decade, so long as it ships with 8GB of VRAM.

[FreeFallFrenzy]

It's unfortunate it only has 8GB VRAM, especially since it's only GDDR6. You need lots of RAM to run all that stuff these days! And $200 more for the 3080 with all its extras is a great upgrade for the price too. The 3090 not so much (other than the added VRAM)

[Marquinho]

3080 is about 30% more powerful than the 2080ti, for USD700.

I'm absolutely buying one...

And I'm also happy both Microsoft and Sony are releasing their exclusives on PC Woohooo!

[Atticus_finch]

Idk about Sony there. I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Marquinho]

https://www.pcgamer.com/son...

A 3080 should guarantee any PS5 game to be ran @60fps/4k at Ultra settings as it has ~2.5x more power. Heck... at this pace I'll probably run Horizon Zero Down at Max settings (4k/60) out of horse power with a 3080 before they patch the damn game.

[Unspoken]

Sony already claimed they will look at more 1st party moving to PC to increase profit. Win-win for everyone.

[Atticus_finch]

Don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with with PC getting some of the best games ever made from Ps4, infact it's a great idea $$$. But don't hold your breath on those Ps5 exclusives. I wouldn't.

[MikePWV]

Sony said they plan to release first-party games on PC in the FUTURE. It took them 3 years to half ass port Horizon over. I highly doubt Sony will be releasing PC games as quickly as Microsoft does. Who cares about a game 3 years down the road anyways.

[Marquinho]

That's not going to be the case anymore. Horizon was to test the waters and it did just fine. Titles should release quicker and probably will have PC in mind from the groun in the future. Don't expect PS5 games to land on PC later than 1 year after release.

[MadLad]

You seem salty that Sony is bringing games to PC.

You do realize it's going to happen faster, and more often, right? You don't test the waters, and then run away after you find another giant market that wants your product.

"Who cares about a game 3 years down the road anways". The PC market; and Sony is noticing, and that window of PC release will slowly shorten and shorten.

You'll learn to accept that.

[galmi]

Warriors never stop fighting for their land and emperor

[RememberThe357]

@TheRealRafael
You do when you want those people buying more than just your game and still getting paid for it. Sony wants people buying all their games on Playstations, that makes them far and away more money than their first party games. But I also think PC releases will be more for the major hits they want to turn into broader IPs. I expect to see Sony eventually making God of War tv series and Horizon movies. PC helps massively with that kind of exposure.

[StoneyYoshi]

"I'm absolutely buying one..."

I'm doing the same thing. I currently have a Radeon VII GPU and it currently averages 800+ on eBay. So I'm putting mine up for sale to hopefully make a small profit and get a 3080 basically for free.

[anubusgold]

I got my money waiting for a 3080 its the best value for me guess ill pass down my 1080 to my Nephew i got lots of spare parts to build him a new pc. Its not the best gaming pc but on a 1080P monitor it will still do over 100fps he will be good for his fortnight games thats all he plays oh and pub G.

[Thundercat77]

You are very wrong. Sony is not going to release any new exclusive game on PC. If you have an official confirmation for that. Post it. What Sony is doing is putting 4 to 5 years old exclusive games on PC that are no longer generating any money and already pushed Playstation sales.

Is ridiculous to think that Sony is going to shoot themselves by putting their new exclusive games on PC.

[WeOwnTheNight]

Hmmm so where do I go from here?

I currently have an i7-9700k (not overclocked yet), 750 watt PSU and I game at 1080p. Thinking to go from my 2070 Super to the 3090 (mainly for Microsoft Flight Sim). Wondering if the 3090 might be overkill even when I factor in heavy mods. nVidia says a 750 watt PSU should be the minimum sufficient required, so the only upgrade I am really looking at is my GPU. Trying to figure if the PSU might be too limited if I do choose to overclock over time

[RazzerRedux]

I'd wait and see some comparison benchmarks between 3080 and 3090 before I laid down $1400. Especially considering FS 2020 is slated to be upgraded from DX12 from DX11 at some which will hopefully mitigate some of the CPU scaling issues the game has.

[Vits]

You should wait for more in-deep analysis. Because as you are rocking a Intel based system the RTX 3090 would be forced to run in a PCI 3.0 slot and we are yet to find out how much of a performance impact that will cause as it was designed for PCI 4.0.

It's unlikely that it would run poorly though. But depending on how big of a impact it is, it might also not be worth the upgrade.

[KRUSSIDULL]

Have 9990KS and waiting to see if PCI 3.0 vs 4.0 will limit performance of the 3090 and also if it will fit in my case if its all good I think I will upgrade my RTX 2080ti.

[Edgelordsupreme]

There will be zero impact.

[anubusgold]

@Edgelordsupreme Thats not true the 2080 Ti was being bottlenecked by pcie3.0 x8 that has never happened so we dont know how this will effect the numbers on pcie 4.0 at much higher speeds and Nvidias new I/O im looking at my motherboard now that doesnt support Pcie 4.0 and thinking you maybe have to go.

[ABizzel1]

The 3080 is the better value hands down. You can spend 2x the money for 30% - 40% more performance, or you can simply drop settings to High, and spend the $700 elsewhere on your rig or take an actual flight somewhere or co-pilot ride.

[KRUSSIDULL]

Yeah 3080 is more value but some people just want the best no matter the price.

[Unspoken]

Nv Link SLI? 2 RTX 3080s