Consoles have sold just fine without a headliner-caliber game, but Xbox needs one of its flagship franchises to flourish.
Halo doesn’t have the pulling power it once had. What Microsoft needed was new IP for launch.
Right. Halo infinite is even looking to be another crackdown 3 situation allover. We've been here before. If ms can't even get Halo right, what more about a new IP. It's getting really funny in a sad way now.
The biggest mistake was letting Bungie leave... Should buy them back again since Activision's deal didn't work out
“The biggest mistake was letting Bungie leave... Should buy them back again since Activision's deal didn't work out“ Bungie wanted freedom to try something new is why they left Microsoft. I doubt they’d want to be a Halo factory again.
Xbox series x is rubbish and a waste of time. Ps5 will outsell the Xbox series x by more than 8:1 this coming generation. Halo infinite is Xbox series x most valuable ip and it looks like rubbish and is delayed to next year. I think by the time halo is released ps5 would have sold more than 10million consoles over the series x or more. Time after time Microsoft proves that Xbox is just not even close to the quality of Playstation.
@jin... and that something new was still a halo-esq type of game. Funny how that worked out. Also, Infinite was always an XBO game. One that happened to be enhanced for the SX but still at its core is an XBO game. So it being delayed is painful, but knowing it wasnt really an SX 'launch' game is palatable. It's understood that MS was aligning the releases of both to coincide but now it could be April before the game comes out. In the meantime, I will still get the SX and play through whatever is a launch game as well as many of my existing games.
Agree, gamers today have no interest like they used to for gears and halo, that's the most confusing thing MS are doing imo.
That is not true. Gamers still have an interest in uncharted and God of war for instance. The issue with halo and gears is that they haven't changed or evolved the formula in any meaningful way. When I saw gears 4 trailer I was pumped because I thought they would go more towards survival horror with the look and feel. This was not the case.just another gears. With halo 5 I thiught they would excel with the story since I loved the story for halo 4. But they screwed that up adding some random new characters without proper introduction...something akin to the arbiter. Halo and gears still holds interest in gamers...but we are still waiting for that epic cross over to current gen let alone next gen.
It is still their top selling exclusive.
I think both consoles lack anything really new at launch. I expected a lot more this generation. MS and Sony had years to get this launch right. I was expecting both to come with a new innovative IP. Instead you look at the showcases and almost all first party games were sequels or IP spin-offs. We are looking right now at a console launch that is highlighted with sequels, spin-offs, and lower budget new IPs by independent studios. Nobody can say any of the companies are being innovative and taking bold risks.
I lost interest in Halo once Bungie left I tried Halo 5 I thought it was friggin boring I'd rather see a new franchises being released.
phil said it was an old build we didn't expect it to be 20 years old
OH FKN SNAP. You're cold blooded man
Cold blooded, but, the statement just burns. Some ice in his veins with this fire statement. Its all about balance. Got the cold and hot together.
Damage control. I stopped reading mid way when the nonsense started to increase. Especially when the article writer said the first PlayStations didn't launch with anything substantial. Just ignores the significance of games like Ridge Racer and Tekken looking like their arcade counterparts but having more story depth at home. I didn't need to go to the arcade to play them. Wipeout, Battle Arena Toshinden adding to the fight genre. Air combat starting off the Ace Combat series. Same with PS2 with Tekken Tag, DOA, Ridge Racer again, Midnight Club, Unreal Tournament,etc. When you have to downplay to cover up Microsoft's failure to produce, that's shilling. Dreamcast launched with great titles. N64, SNES, NES, Genesis, etc. Even Saturn launched with Virtua Fighter. Excluding Sega management, that was a significant launch title among a sea of launch titles for each system. When a TRILLION dollar company spends 500 million and fails to produce, you call them out on it. Especially when they have a history of under delivering. Not sweep it under the rug and downplay. When that money could have gone to ***5 to 10 Microsoft NEW IPS.*** It's not that gamers want to. But when it keeps happening, or their focus is elsewhere pushing services, why support them when they can't even support themselves? In order to have great services, you make great content. And they're not delivering. Just paying out more millions like with Capcom and DMC5 when that could have been another new IP game. Or, financed a new game studio. Comes down to bad management. Simple as.
" Even Saturn launched with Virtua Fighter." Yep, and it's also one of the reasons Saturn failed in the USA by releasing a terrible port that wasn't ready.
That surprise launch didn't help either
Even when it wasn't perfect, Virtua Fighter was the top 3D fighting game at the time. As I said, excluding Sega's management, the Saturn still sold even early. Doesn't matter about the pissing off of third parties. I had friends in the military that would sneak playing my Sega Saturn by telling my gullible barracks roommate that it was okay for them to play. Had to stop that quick. But used to take it to the rec room on the weekends. VF still helped sell the Saturn. Then they corrected it by creating Remix. Trillion dollar company. 500 million. What do you think Sega could have done with that money? Microsoft sure doesn't know what to do with it.
@ Apocalypse Shadow " Virtua Fighter was the top 3D fighting game at the time" Yep until Sony launched with Psx a perfect port of Tekken a game that was less popular in the arcade to Virtua fighters Heck by many retrofan, the best port of Virtuafighter is the 32X version (it was developed by Am2). And trust me I remember how I felt when I bought my saturn day 1 at 800$ Cnd (I still have it and look at my profile banner to see my favorite game on the system) (and if you want to go check my price charting profile for my Saturn collection) https://www.pricecharting.c...
If Microsoft wants people to invest in new hardware there should be new experiences that take advantage of that hardware Day 1 from them. That's what Halo Infinite was to be - their shining example of a game built for Series X then scaled down. But it looked worse than Halo 5 on One X, at 12TF. With pop-in present, using their fast SSD. No RT at launch, despite telling us it's XSX-first. What we're getting - games upscaled from a 1.5TF base console, and maybe two niche third party games. They did way better for the 360 with two new Rare games and PGR3, and XBOne that had Ryse, Dead Rising, and Forza.
Apparently they don't need consoles, console sales or even games. They just need Gamepass. Must be good to be them.
Of course not. A new console doesnt need a Killer Launch title. After a gen of gamers saying Microsoft doesnt have games, what better way of starting a new gen with zero exclusives, zero must have, zero system seller. Beside gamers that will buy the console no matter what.... The ones that only can get one.... Will they chose the one without a blockbuster or the one with blockbusters games? This you suppose to be a turning point. It wont and could get even worst....
if the series x console is significantly cheaper they'll be fine if it isn't.....oh boy they're in trouble
Ask Nintendo about how launching a system without a must have game went for them. The Wii U had a lot of games at launch but none were the must play system sellers. Without Halo will there be any games for XSX at launch that won’t be available on PS5?
Washington Post is not a gaming website. And yes consoles do need killer apps if they want to sell competitively.
It needs to prove the hardware. Otherwise what's the point of upgrading from an XB1?
The problem I have with that demo is that Halo suddenly look like a PG rated Doom let alone its early last gen looks. Identity crisis is the word. "When you look back at the history of console launch titles, it hasn’t exactly been a nonstop hit parade of classics. The PlayStation 4 has sold more than 112 million consoles worldwide, but its launch lineup was a mixture of last-gen PlayStation 3 titles, “Angry Birds Star Wars,” a few indie titles like “Resogun,” “Warframe” (which wouldn’t be good until years later), and most famously, “Knack,” a game that’s lived on in memes. The Xbox One barely fared better, with a ho-hum brawler in “Ryse: Son of Rome,” a new exclusive “Dead Rising” sequel and “Killer Instinct,” a traditional fighting game." You idiot left Killzone Shadow Fall on purpose. And the guy downplayed the importance of killer arcade series as launch titles in the days that they were the showcase and polished titles. Tekken Tag was one of the best game of the series and Ridge Racer V is still one of slickest arcade racer ever made. Dating back to PS1 one launch those two alone Tekken and Ridge Racer are a must buy there was nothing like them on other platform.
Also Playstation has been consistent. People notice how strong the PS4 releases have been this year which easily could have been delayed into launch PS5 titles. Just look at the Xbox One launch window, all 360 games delayed to have titles at launch. Playstation has been consistent all generation whereas Xbox hasn't been. Sure PS4 didn't have much at launch, but, they built up steam and kept going. Playstation owners know they'll get their games. Can Xbox say the same? Its up in the air
Halo WAS it's killer launch line up. Outside of that there really wasn't anything notable, it also doesn't help that anything launching on the Series X will also be available on Xbox One so the 'must buy' pull power of a launch title loses a lot of its power.
They needed something different like Fable, but they didn't do anything with it until now and it's just too late.
Yep, a logical argument, clearly less games is better. It worked for the xbone!
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