The Control next-gen upgrade being stuck behind a paywall is such a bad move and could potentially destroy the franchise before it takes off.
You would expect EA to do this, but not Remedy. They deserve every single negative backlash (except death threats) that is about to come their way.
I feel this is 505 doing this as publishers tbh, but you know the studio shares the blame regardless. Just a clear money grab and a slap to the people who supported the game this far
I'd put the blame on 505 Games. Their the publisher and they're the one's who make these types of decisions.
This is definitely a publisher move.
Sure is sounds like a publisher move but we don't know what kind of agreement 505 has with Remedy. I'm not going to be too quick to excuse them from this. Studio leadership can be just as cut throat as publishers, if not even more so.
Then if the case Remedy should say it. Would I still be pissed but I would understand.
The only reason I even got this game is because it was free with the RTX 2070 Super I got last year. I would definitely never have bought this if I hadn't gotten it for free. It's not worth it at full price, even with all DLCs. The game isn't very good either.
I agree. The game imo was just ok. The game had some issues..things it could have done better,for starters the map was useless.
If you or anyone with a 2070 Super has a 4K monitor - does this game suddenly stop loading high-res textures after a few minutes, and will only load them when going in-and-out of settings? It really isn't a pretty looker without RTX and this issue happens only with DX12 mode, DLSS on and everything.
I have a 2070 super but my monitor is 1440p @144hz. Don’t suffer from your problem. Maybe ram issue?
16GB @ 3200. It's only a problem at 4K resolution and DX12 mode. DX11 doesn't have the issue
I expect this to be corrected honestly. It is so nonsensical, i cant imagine them keeping the next gen patch behind a $130 paywall for their day one customers. Especially after the backlash.
Moving forward, I think we should start referring a dev botching a next-gen upgrade as "Remedying."
I know a lot of folks praise Control but my experience playing the game was just ok,I had some gripes with the game. Folks that have a problem with what 505/Remedy are doing far as next gen should just stick with playing the game on current-gen & PC.
Sadly Control did not sell very well at launch. It only met a certain success through Gamepass and Psnow. I believe this why they re trying to charge for next Gen versions. You have to remember people have to work on these upgrades and they have to be paid for it. I'm not saying is fair, I'm just saying this is business.
Control has not yet come to Xbox game pass.
I thought it did.
So, if you didn't know it wasn't on Gamepass, how do you know what the game has sold? But, you're right, it's buisness, and some businesses can't afford to give stuff for free sadly. Don't expect this to be the last time we see something like this.
do people prefer there's no next gen version? lots of current gen games have not even announced they have next gen versions
And what will the next-gen include aside netter texture, 4K, and 60 frames per second? You know things that come naturally when you have a better graphic card on pc. Like I would agree if the game had more polygons, more enemies, etc.
Here you are peddling polygons again while ignoring all the advanced features coming with next-gen? But now you bring in more enemies, even though the core gameplay is designed around the number of enemies that exist as it is? You're not making any sense with this ongoing argument of yours, Pete.
And what are they charging for that isn't included in the actual pc version? The point is ppl expect that the next-gen version will be something like Call of duty Advance warfare Ps3 vs Ps4 where it was completely 2 versions but it will probably be exactly like the current pc version or a remaster if you prefer. So again I would have no problem paying for a new version that Includes better Ai, animations and not simply add the current PC bells and whistles plus 4K 60 frames sec. Hey just remember that there's no PC ultimate version nor a PC next-gen version at the moment I wonder why?
***The point is ppl expect that the next-gen version will be something like Call of duty Advance warfare Ps3 vs Ps4 where it was completely 2 versions but it will probably be exactly like the current pc version*** As oppose to CoD AW on PS4 looking just like the current PC version? Which it didn't, btw. I mean, seriously, you do understand that the current PC version does not look like the current PS4/XBO versions, right? It's 4k and higher resolutions. It's unlocked FPS. It has Ray Tracing. It has DLSS and similar features. None of these other features are on current gen machines. None of them. You're acting like there's no difference between a PS4 game now and a PC game it's completely erroneous and misinformed on your part. ***So again I would have no problem paying for a new version that Includes better Ai, animations and not simply add the current PC bells and whistles plus 4K 60 frames sec.*** The "bells and whistles" you so carelessly throw out there are advanced things that are the defining elements of next-gen consoles. Let alone every game should be in 4k and utilize 4k quality textures, those "bells and whistles" are what defines the next generation. Is it as much as from PS2 to PS3 or PS3 to PS4 as far as discernable differences? No. But, these differences add a lot to the games that just aren't possible on current-gen machines. And asking for improved AI for AI designed around the core game? Illogical.
Yes it is.
I agree. I think it is an absolute shame. Money isn't even the problem, I'm just demoralized about it all at this point.
I bought the game on PS4 and had a good time with it, I think my feeling on this will be dictated by how much work goes into the next gen console updates. If it is a transformative update I may well double dip if the price is right.
The ultimate edition of control is 40 dollars. It is not full priced. It is not 60 dollars. It comes with all the dlc, plus you get it on a next gen console with all the dlc. It is a great value. Even if you bought the game at launch, chances are you are like me and beat it and traded it in not thinking about the dlc. It is not even comparable to NBA 2k21 100 dollar upgrade. 2k locked out the next gen upgrade to people who buy the 100 dollar version. All 505 is doing is saying pay us 40 dollars and you can play it on current gen and next gen. Alternatively, you could wait until control ultimate edition comes out for next gen and buy it then. No one is forcing you to buy the game on current gen. Also, the very idea that it is wrong for 505 games to offer a control ultimate edition for this gen and next gen is absurd. The game came out a year ago and this was well before any talk of offering free upgrades to next gen. Its just 40 dollars, now if it were a full priced game, I would have an issue with that. 60 dollars for a game I already paid for in order to to get it on next gen is a waste of money in my mind. $40 is a price I can live with. The 40 dollar price of admission is like you are buying the game for next gen, but you can play it on this gen consoles as well.
I get everyone wants something for free, but I don't agree they owe anyone a free next gen upgrade. Maybe its easy to upgrade it, maybe its not, but the fact is you got what you paid for already in a ps4/xbx1 game. Why are they obligated to give you the game again for a completely new system? Sure, its a money grab, but they are a for profit company and no one says you have to buy it again. Grow up people and stop being entitled brats.
LOL, the level of entitlement never ceases to amaze me. This has NEVER been done before. To get upgrades for free is NOT deserved or owed in ANY way. The developers worked on the upgrades to the game, they deserve to be paid for it. This is like asking to get an upgraded version of your shoes when a new version of the ones you have come out. Or your car, or phone etc and so on. No, this will in no way harm the franchise, much less kill it. Good lord people, get a grip and learn NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING!
Just so I understand you correctly: The people who paid more for the game are not entitled to the same amount of content as people who pay less by buying the "definitive edition" for less money? That's now entitlment as well, that if you pay more you shouldn't expect to be treated as those who are paying less?
You need to learn reading comprehension, and DE-learn putting words in people's mouths.
I understand what you're saying, but this new console generation is also unprecedented in how similar it is to the current one. That has never been done. For example, Battlefield 4 launched on PS3 and PS4 right? But those consoles have COMPLETELY different architectures (also worth noting there was some upgrade program I think it was 10 bucks). This time, next-gen uses the same architecture as the current gen, so much so that current gen games can literally just be played on next gen. For the PS3 or PS2 that wasn't the case for back-compat, for those consoles they essentially had the previous generation's hardware inside the console to enable it. This situation of the new consoles using the same architecture has never happened before, and in terms of pushing an update to allow for 4K 60FPS for control (if that's what they're targeting anyway) is more similar to a PS4 Pro update than an entirely different version. The control devs had to spend extra time building out the RTX features on PC right? But when buy a game on PC you don't have to pay twice or pay extra to unlock the ability to utilize your hardware. Control PS4 will already play on PS5. They're just trying to double dip by arbitrarily not releasing a damn performance patch.
That is a fair point, to be honest. While I do agree making it only available to the ultimate edition owners is super shitty... I still don't believe ANYONE is entitled to ANYTHING someone has to work on. Even a "patch", as you call it, like this one. Especially when its one that goes into a next gen version of the game. Because it's not quite as simple as that, for next gen versions at least.
You say I need to learn to read, but you need to learn to argue. Control DE costs less than base game + DLC that people have paid. You argue it's entitlement to expect that base game + DLC, that people paid more money for, should expect to be upgraded next generation as well. You say it's not deserved, but it's entitled to expect the same when you pay more for the game and dlc? You also say the developers worked on the upgrades to the game and they deserve to be paid for it, but the people who paid them the most are the people who already bought it on PS4/XBO and not the people who might buy the DE version of the game. Sure, nobody owes anyone anything, but it's bad business to shit on those who supported you to begin with and paid more to play your game than those who are buying it now at a discounted price.
I haven’t played this yet myself, been wanting to get around to it, and [email protected] - $40 with all content and next gen upgrades sure hits a sweet spot for me. But yea, I would also be pissed if I were $80-90 in already and got this news, knowing those updates are incoming to newbies at half the price of what you paid and supported early on. Not entitlement, but a good jesture like free upgrades could go a long way with studio reputation, possibly leading to larger sales on their next title(s). Just an idea, but not saying it should be mandatory.
Why get so salty about a game that's almost a year old not getting a free upgrade? It was only a few months ago we found out next gen upgrades may be a thing.
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