With the next generation coming soon, will timed exclusives matter?
AAA timed exclusives matter a lot. Sony knows that, Microsoft forgot that. It's annoying to some gamers, but it helps sell consoles and gain market share. Microsoft have money, but lack a competent person in front of their gaming division. EDIT: @Rude-ro AAA timed exclusives help sell consoles... simple timed exclusives don't sell consoles.
Most of their games are timed exclusives. Since the 360
Timed exclusives don't mean anything. True exclusives are about establishing brand identity while showing what you hardware can do. Mode-7 for the SNES was exclusivity. Blast Processing for Sega was about exclusivity. The mature themes Sony allowed on the PS1 which let MGS, RE1 FF7 and a slew of other iconic titles when Nintendo was holding those back with their "Family Entertainment" mentality was exclusivity that the whole of the industry eventually adopted. True "exclusivity" shouldn't even have to be mentioned, which is something MS have never understood. They've only exhausted and devalued the term, as far as they're concerned anyway.
To an extent. Full exclusives are obviously a bigger deal. Most of 360's success was Owed a lot to either full 3rd party exclusives like Gears, or long term timed deals like Mass Effect. They haven't forgotten that. Paying for a timed deal on one big AAA likely costs the same as paying for the same deal on three AA games. That seems to be their strategy now. They're looking outside of the mainstream AAA space to make deals. You'll get less homeruns, but if you constantly get people on base, you'll possibly drive in more runs. But here recently, "timed exclusives" are still releasing day and date on PC. As some like to point out, why worry about the console if PC has it? We know that they are mostly different spaces, but PC availability is a factor that reduces the impact of these deals imo. And the time periods of exclusive is growing shorter. It obviously helps with marketing. It doesn't have much impact on me because I'm past the "need to buy day one" mentality. I think tLoU2 was only my 3rd $60 game since launch, for example. But saying *exclusive still has its impact.
MS didn't forget. They lost market share since the 360. It takes more money to compensate 3rd parties not to sell to the larger audience, and those dollars may not stretch as far if there's an impression that timed exclusivity on Xbox will hurt sales on future platforms once the exclusivity period expires.
makes no difference to me... I buy all the systems anyways. So Im really not missing out on anything.
Depends on for how long and how much people want the game, it’s certainly not going to hurt.
If they weren't effective companies wouldn't spend the money on it.
No S/. Of course they do
sure they matter, they are annoying to the consumers and not beneficial to anyone but the exclusive rights holder
#annoying to the consumers who's system didnt get the exclusive. A selling point and beneficial for the ones that did.
Actually that isn’t true at all. Take in case Spider-Man for avengers. It would actually be better for PlayStation users if it was on all consoles. They could do far more with the character like story missions but involvement in cross play. Instead ps users will get Spider-Man and will be relegated to challenges or grinding modes instead of getting something more meaningful To Spider-Man as a characters. Also crossplay might be harder this way or if it’s done Spider-Man will be locked out. So patently false what you Said
That's just not true, the devs have already stated that spiderman will be getting his own in game event introducing him to the wider world of avengers.. like all the other dlc characters being added... "When Spider-Man comes to our stable of heroes, we’ll be marking his debut with an in-game event that will introduce him to the wider world of Marvel’s Avengers." https://blog.playstation.co... As for your crossplay concern? Not planned for the game... "We love the idea of cross-platform play," Escayg told Shacknews. "It's not something that we are currently doing. Our launch is going to be as it is. We are doing cross-generational play. PS4 players will play with PS5 players, because we do have an upgrade pass. Jumping in day one on PS4, when you upgrade to your PS5, same with your Xbox One to your Xbox X, the idea that you can take your saved game and your progression with you. But we want to at least have within that ecosystem, PS4 to PS5 can connect for co-op and Xbox One to Xbox X can connect for co-op. Cross-generational, yes. Cross-platform, not at this time." https://www.shacknews.com/a... The only person talking false is you....
Maybe. Often people conflate a benefit to them with "not being shafted like everyone else." The Spiderman deal is what it is. But stuff like FF7R or RotTR deals, for example, aren't really a benefit in my view. If we truly got those games early because of the moneyhatting, then sure. But we really just saw others go without for a year. Great for MS and Sony, bad press for square (the checks they received helped soften that though), but gamers were just kind of used for marketing ploys. I don't know. Business is business, but I don't feel particularly special or happy that others get treated differently. Especially when its these mega-publishers like EA, Activision, Ubi, or Square doing the deals. I'm lucky to be able to buy what I want, but I remember when that wasn't the case. I feel for those gamers who just want to game.
Atom, it's a fair point you make, people do miss out with these deals, but like I say, its beneficial to the ones getting it, the ones that get left out, not so much, you only hear complaints when it's not on their system of choice though, like you I'm a multiplatform gamer so have never really missed out on any of these deals. I dont feel happy about it, just nonplussed and used to it.
@gamer7804 i don't think the PS community is clamoring for cross-play, so don't you worry. There would be no more reason to lock out Spider-Man than any other DLC character.
For me, no.
Personally for me it's a NO, I didn't mind waiting for tomb raider, just like MS fans didn't mind waiting for NMS or how little gamers don't care about exclusive timed MP Cod maps etc. Just look at cuphead, great game but I wasn't crying over waiting for it, just like ori will probably come over at somepoint as did journey to pc etc
No reason to buy a Series X now at all. If I desire first party games from MS, I'll get a cheapo gamepass, stick it on Android phone and cast to TV, or even sideload app to TV. Stream in 4K using my fortunately very fast broadband and Halo Infinite can be dabbled in for 5 mins. MS even proudly tell me I CAN use my Dualshock 4 too, thanks for the options MS! Might give you $1 next year. PS5 however already has a list as long as my arm of new titles to play that are exclusive to that platform, so I will be picking up one of those methinks.
That's exactly what I'm going to do fella, gamepass through the tv, stadia through the tv, ps5 launch day and switch pro whenever that comes out. Covers all bases and I only need to buy 2 hardware consoles. Its a no brainer for anyone who has good Internet (1gb fibre)
Ohhh wow I forgot about side loading the xcloud app. No need for powerful pc just decent internet. A few friends might be of interest in this so they can play Forza. If it works like it does on pc (gamepass) then £1 a month for it is amazing value.
Unfortunately, yes. I never like timed stuff. It's always bad for the consumer.
Nintendo just announced that they sold and insane 22 Million copies of animal crossing. We know as a fact that tons of people bought a Switch play that game locking them to Nintendo's Ecosystem. Same happens with many major franchises like God Of War, Final Fantasy, The Last of Us, etc. Will the new Halo sell series X? Probably not since you can play it on Xbox One, One S and One X....plus PC, and smartphones. Of course they are hoping you'll be locked to a Game Pass subscription. But you can easily just pay one month when there is a game you wanna play 🤷♂️
I don't mind paying for gamepass but I wish they'd increase the price so they could fund/release better games or at least not cut corners by contracting everything out like they do with halo
You see that's the bad thing about subscription services. Charge to little you get little quality. Charge to much and people will be out off. As they would be like hang on a second it's was only this price and now you want to try and charge this price no thanks.
Yes. At least Sony knows and practices this. MS forgot and doesnt care anymore under Phil. Just put gamepass everywhere and have the smaller devs they bought make smaller games to justify content.
Would ask why is this even a question, but then too many have been brainwashed by MS insistence that "exclusives don't matter" which they've been saying since the 360 - as they pushed for something as trivial as timed exclusivity. FFS - they've never - NEVER! - even understood what "Exclusive" meant, which isn't just a f**king PR term!
Death Stranding PS4 exclusive, Godfall PS4 Exclusive, Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 exclusive, I would say both of them use the term loosely.
Only when Sony uses it, it means something. Those titles you mention were built with the PS4 solely in mind. Even if Horizon is on PC now, much of the reason it was exclusive was to show what the PS4 could do. When MS uses "exclusive", given that they're promising day-one PC release, what they're really saying is "Excluded from Playstation".
Depends on what it is if GTA 6 is a timed exclusive it will cause an impact.
If they did not matter, then Sony or Microsoft would not have them, period.
Yes they do the more reason to pick your platform over another one
If you are in a position to have to choose one or the other then yes.
It depends on the game. Its doesnt matter being timed excllusive if that type of game doenst sell well on the console in question.
What do you think?
I try not to.
it's just annoying
Are stupid questions stupid? The answer is yes to both.
Microsoft Problem right now is the Game Pass service. Microsoft has to pay Publishers big money to get them to release on the GP service on release day plus the title gets the usage amount that you get for a GP title and to get the launch or timed exclusive added to keep it off other platforms they have to pay even more. This is a issue and difference with the titles that Microsoft and Sony call "launch or timed exclusive". Sony can go after The Call of Duty's or the GTA games of the world and they pay more for the right while Microsoft to this point is not willing to pay for this type of game on GP on its release date and the reason is simple huge $$$. This problem for Microsoft has led them to the aniti-consumer narrative that they try a pin on Sony. This cost Microsoft a!most nothing all Phil Spencer has to do is goto Twitter and Tweet "exclusives or bad" and that's just one of many examples I could use and the Xbots take care of the rest.... Just that simple. Maybe one day Sony to will be all in on the PSNow Service and the playing field will be level but I doubt any Sony PlayStation owner wants to see those day come anytime soon. Microsoft can only blame themselves.
Well you're talking about it.
Timed Exclusives hardly sell when they came out one year latter on the other platforms, so, they sure matter.
For me I just need a playstation and a gaming PC (Which I have) I can play any games includes one that exclusive to xbox.
Sony: Can you make your game timed exclusive to ps5. Devs: No amount of m .............. Sony: People aren't going to buy your games on xbox they are just going to wait for it to appear on gamepass, make it timed exclusive to ps5 and put it on gamepass later, win win for both. Devs: ok deal.
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