The PS5 DualSense controller will have updatabale firmware according to Sony.
That's pretty cool, it seems like it's going to be quite an advanced controller. Maybe they will add updates to the Haptics and things.
Perhaps this is one of the reasons why PS5 games won't work with DualShock 4 as well? Mind, I know the DualSense has stuff that the DualShock 4 can't do, but this could (could!) be part of it. That said, I'm not that fussed about the PS5 needing its own controller to play its games.
Exactly it’s a new controller might look the same (button layouts etc) but underneath there’s much more going on hence it wasn’t dual shock 5 if people really love their DS4 that much stick with PS4. If your buying a PS5 each console comes with one 🤷🏻♂️😂 my mates wanna come round and play tho. Well buy a spare controller like you’ve done every other gen or get them to bring theirs. They don’t own one yet tho 🤷🏻♂️🤦 🏻♂️😑😂 ✌ 🏻😜 that’s life. Not Sony’s fault. It’s easy to make everything BC when your not progressing. 🤓✌🏻 People are just seeing the same button layouts and going ah but it’s the same pad.. it’s not. It’s about as big a change as when they first introduced rumble or pressure sensitive buttons they doing the triggers now and pimping the rumble so I presume for example you could potentially detect which wheel has gone off the track based on which part of the part is rumbling top left bottom right etc. Can’t wait myself.
I think the R1 and L1 buttons are analog now. They apparently have some give to them and don't just click in. If the face buttons and D-Pad all follow suit, that could have huge implications for games on the system.
The only reason they wont work is commercial, lets not kid ourselves. Not that I blame them either, but no reason to be naive about it. At the end of the day the DualSense features just enhance the experience but it not like a game wont be actually playable if you had to use a ps4 controller
Damn! You can't use the dual shock 4 with a ps5? Thats lame
Hopefully we don't hear about bricked controllers 🤔
I don't understand why some folk expect PS5 games to work with a DualShock 4 given they both use different controllers.
Simply because ps3 works with ps2 controllers, and DS5 and DS4 have same features.. A bit like gamepad for player one ane others holding a wiimote..
Well the Dual Sense is a "digital controller."
The Xbox One controller has had updatable firmware since it launched in 2013, so nothing new here. You can even remap the buttons on the Xbox One controller in the system settings menu.
Yea know the PS4 also had firmware updates like the change to the light settings and you can also remap the buttons. But nice try.
caddytrek You're missing the point of his/her comment.
InUrFoxHole Please explain to me what I am missing. March 20, 2014 Future DualShock 4 update for PlayStation 4 will add option to dim light bar (updated!) https://www.engadget.com/20...
Who claimed it's new? The information that DualSense is updatable is new, nobody's claiming DualShock4 didn't do this too, for example.
Apparently idiots on here disagree with things that are absolutely true.
@ Caddytrek what there saying is the Xbox one controller has stand a lone updates for the controller. You can check what version your pad is running ect.. Also you can update the Xbox one controller to the same latency advances as the new series x controller.
honestly now that I think about it , I never updated my controller on my ds4 like I have on my xbox one or elite controllers, I just assumed both had it. I remember them updating the haptics slightly on the xbox one controller,. then adding a feature that lets 2 people use one controller , stuff like that.
The xbox one controller doesn't have haptic feedback nor does the SX controller.. And the PS4 originally only had one light setting and the other settings were added later. It doesn't surprise me that you two are trying to spread misinformation.
@caddytrek. It absolutely has haptic feedback in the triggers, where have you been? The DUalsense just has a different implementation ofnit
No, your 100% wrong, xbox has rumble it's not the same as Haptic which allows them to simulate specific sensations versus rumble which only has intensity settings. The same with the triggers xbox has rumble triggers PS4 has force feedback like a steering wheel. So it can simulate the difference between pulling on something soft vs hard, like a puzzle game which has four different strings and you have to select the loose one by feel. Or the common example pulling on a bow string and getting feedback and you pull it farther.
Haptics are simply stronger rumbles. No software will change what’s physically coming in the controller.
Smart phones have haptic feedback, there isn't a spinning weight inside of your smart phone is there?
The Xbox one controller has had haptic feedback since 2013. It’s even more noticeable in the elite controllers. People always speaking on stuff when they clearly haven’t used it. Haptic is just the hot word for rumble variation. Say haptic and slap on another $50 to the price tag
That is not true.
Do some research, Saijahn. They've openly talked about what haptic feedback is. It has nothing at all to do with rumble.
@both above, yes it's true. you may not agree with the implementation that MS calls "Haptic feedback" but it is what they call it. So stop trying to say it doesnt exist in the xbo controller. https://www.precisionmicrod...
Nintendo Switch joy cons had this too....I think XB1 & PS4 controllers did too.
Why wouldn't it though? Like updating the firmware of controller is rarely necessary, unless there something broken or they are adding support for a new device/feature. But it's not something rare or impressive. Most modern controllers are capable of that. Including really cheap chinese mobile ones.
Firmware updates means improvements to the features. I don't see the issue. I mean, if you don't want to update your controller, go right ahead? But more options should be praised.
It will make the DS more stable with the stability updates lol...I'm sorry I had to do it.
I guess developers are able to reply custom profiles for games via a firmware.
Yeah alittle like the headset companion app with audio custom settings from devs on different games?
Xbox One controllers have firmware updates. It's cool that PS5 controllers will, too.
Yup, their controllers have had upgradable software since almost the begininng of the current gen.
Nintendo's firmware updates are pretty frequent on the joycons and pro controller. And they've got a stick calibration tool too.
PS4s controller is updatable too, so what? Lol you guys are very defensive about this. Nobody's saying it's not been done before! This is just new information about the new DualSense controller. What will you say next, "omg it has buttons, Atari already did that!!"?
Are you sure? I can't find any info about the DualShock 4 having firmware updates.
I dont think there have been any fw updates specific to the DS4. There was a system fw update that allowed the intensity of the lightbar to be adjusted but that was done through the console. Sending a signal to the controller to change the color of the lightbar or brightness is done via the console. The controller would have its own software that would need to either be plugged in to the console to update (as i dont think they enabled update over bluetooth)
Isnt this... pretty common for most peripherals?
No past DualShock has had it.
this is the first time Sony doing it A number of things can come out of this could be simple improvements or maybe they have profile and tweaking who knows
Custom touchpad gestures for macros, custom gyro settings, etc. specific to one controller would be amazing.
First time DS controllers have had FW updates.
My xbox controller has updated a couple of times. Don’t remember my PS4 doing it though. They don’t take long.
Even PS3 had firmware update it’s just that Sony didn’t promoted it it they just told you to keep your controller connected to the system while updating remember that dragon game that the motion controller made it almost impossible to play and everyone was up in arms about it Pepperidge farm remember
Yeah my shield remote and controller get updates. Some updates were to reduce inputs lag or something I don't pay attention to the updates or even update them some times.
Software or firmware update? Software would imply that it may be customizable
Firmware is just software, and is typically stored in non volitile memory. Anyway, no reason you couldn't customize if that's a feature they wanted to provide. That software would probably be on the console though I would think
Oh man, I hope they don't have a lot of updates just for controller stability, or we'll get the jokes again.
The daulsense is the most advanced controller ever made this is why I love Sony they love to Innovate.
If DS4s don’t work and these controllers can be updated... can this combat bs like cronusmax or maybe XIM users? Big if true
Xbox One controller and Switch controller are updatable. Only PS4 controller are not updatable.
Well, they are now. The Switch and xbox contoller being updatable didn't really help much in the long run. Have they had any updates worth mentioning? No? Then it's irrelevant.
Xbox has had that all gen
Now this is a sweet upgrade over the previous controllers. Make some way for the DualSense 5. Ta na na na na ta na na na
Right. I best not rage and bang my Controller anymore. This S**t’s gonna be one pricey piece of tech.
PS4 Updates.......... STABILITY
MORE STABILITY INCOMING.
Welcome to 2013 I guess.
Does this mean that a dev can change the characteristic of the DS for a particular game as well?
What updates though? There's no doubt Sony has the best controller the xbox controller is nothing new it's the same
All I want is this to be compatible with PC. Well providing it's nice to use I won't know until later in the year. But if it's nice to use and it's compatible on PC. Ill buyer a second controller for my PC. I wonder if the duelsense is compatible with PS4 games? As I really don't want to have to keep a DS4 around just to use PS4 games.
Great..nothing better than having to wait for a firmware update when you only have a few minutes to play something.