Fraser Gilbert of PureXbox writes, "There's been some speculation recently that Spider-Man might make an appearance in the upcoming Marvel's Avengers, and according to a leak he will be playable - but only in the PS4 version."
AngelicIceDiamond Are you forgetting all those launch console exclusives announced at Xbox show? This is just one character how's that even a comparison. Ms are paying Sega to hold off Yakuza next gen patch which is exclusive to Xbox series x
@Khalina No. Competition is good for everyone. In every instance. When these companies compete with each other they have the biggest incentive to improve in every department. This is extremely, breathtakingly basic economics. The only gamers who lose in this scenario are the very small minority who only own an Xbox One and not a PS4. And if after all these years they continued to invest solely in the more expensive, weaker product, ignoring the extremely early warning (as in pre-launch) signs that this was going to happen, then that's on those gamers, not on these companies. You were asking for it and you're getting what you deserve. The responsibility is on you to not back the losing horse. When you back the losing horse - oh gee whiz what a twist!! - you lose. P.S. I currently play my One more than my PS4, so get that automatic "TOXIC SONY FANBOY REEEEE" out of your mind right now.
Lol wtf ??.... a patch ?? Microsoft are so low at this point
@MTVBG - "Competition is good for everyone. In every instance." Not when one company starts charging for online play and setting precedent...
And Sony doesn't have their own timed exclusives? Half the games at their show were timed exclusives. I would rather have a game be a timed exclusive then timed exclusive DLC where I pay the same price for less content.
How is this even an issue? Sony holds multimedia rights to Spider-Man.
@FunAndGun as much as I resent Microsoft charging for Xbox Live, the onus was on the consumers to not pay for online if they were that opposed to it. A lot of people complaining about it paid for it anyway. Hell, it's one of the only reasons Xbox was a hit, and perhaps the only reason Xbox still exists as a brand today. Technically, everyone who chose to pay for online from any of these companies set the precedent. No one would have followed Microsoft's path had there not been money in it. Just as with bland annual franchises, broken-ass half-functioning anti-fun IPs, and F2P microtransaction trash, you can pin the blame on the people bankrolling and incentivizing this behavior: the millions of consumers who pour billions a year into all of it. People forget that "gamers" include those millions of people who are doing just that. P.S. you're all free to downvote my comments if you don't like reality, but I promise, PROMISE you this: it won't change that it IS reality. Hell, I don't like the reality. But that's the way it is. Every downvote is an anonymous "waaaaaaaaah, wa-wa-waaaaaaah". P.P.S. unless it turns out there were guns to all these consumers' heads the whole time of which I was unaware. Here's hoping that the consumer fatigue of all of this sets in sooner rather than later.
Those were console launch exclusive which means are out on PC and also will be out on PS4
Now: "Spidey playable exclusively on ps4 is unfair!!" IF Spidey became playable in PC and Xbox : "Spiderman PS4 must be coming to PC!!"
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Poor show! Can't stand exclusive DLC
its probably only timed, and will be on xbox in a year or two
Dude Sony owns rights to Spiderman.. I’d say no chance unless MS wants to fork over some cash lol.
uh no, sony owns the rights to Spiderman. would be a show of good faith if they made a character exclusive to xbox too though but yah I'm not a fan of exclusive stuff in a game thats multiplat like this.
...you guys do know that Spider-Man was in Ultimate Alliance 3, right? A Switch exclusive? Complete with Nadji Jeter and Yuri Lowenthal as Miles and Peter? Sony currently holds the solo games license, and they own the film rights, but they don't outright own the rights to the character in all mediums. Any deal in place for this would be separate.
This only one reason this can happened, the Insomniac Spiderman.
Sony does not own the rights to spiderman in games, since he appeared on a nintendo game last year They dont own him in comic, animation or game form. Just struck a deal with marvel for the game. No matter how many downvotes, this is how it is
I don't think Sony owns the rights to SM in games. They do have a contract to make SM branded games with the license though. That specific title license is probably exclusive to Sony for as long as the contract last. It likely does exclude SM appearing in other places in games though. Think Marvel might have not been keen on giving up that right after the whole movie stuff was hindered with movie rights all over the place.
Sony own the licence to Spiderman
Nope. Sony own the movie rights and the exclusive right to the Spider-Man game. They might have a deal behind closed doors however nothing is known of exclusive rights to make Spider-Man video games or own the IP outside of movies. If Spider-Man features exclusive in this game it’s because Sony have brokered a deal for this to be the case with Crystal Dynamics and Marvel. I personally hate exclusive DLC for multiplatform games
Shadow Was that before Sony reached deal with Disney to include spiderman in upcoming Marvel movies It wouldn't surprise me if that came at the cost if spiderman character being exclusive in order for marvel to be able use spiderman in their movies(I could be wrong)
@Myself well I stand corrected maybe they don't own the license to Spiderman's appearance in games.
You guys realize this is a loss for the game itself right? Locking out a whole avenger (and the best one at that) is not a win, that just means I won't be paying for garbage like this. Unless I have a cheaper price tag why would I pay for less content? It's anticonsumer and that's it
Exactly. If I'm playing this game its going to be on the playstation but I think exclusive DLC is bullshit. Nobody else should be paying the same price for the game and getting less. Its not fair. The more we support this crap the worse it gets too. What do Microsoft do next in retaliation now?
It definitely is a disservice to the greater comic book audience, making one of the most recognizable superheroes ever locked to one platform, in a game that isn't even about him. People will just say it's a "win" because internet gamers prioritize platforms and business decisions. But Spiderman is not the best Avenger.
There must be an exclusive DLC on Xbox too to make things fair.
Which Marvel character do they own the rights to again? I can't remember
They don't need to own any rights to get exclusive character DLC, just pay for it to happen.
Sony doesn't own the videogame rights any Marvel character so why would Microsoft need to own any as well.
Sony doesn't own the rights to spiderman videogames. They're only licensing it. They own the movie rights. They only have exclusivity for solo games
Fair? Are you serious?
you can have Captain Marvel, because is soo full of her se.... I mean power ..power :D
LOL. I like what you did there, masterfox haha!
Sony doesn’t own videogame rights fo Spider-Man’s character, only for that particular franchise. The character will still appear in various other Marvel titles on any platform
You know this how?
Disney owns the video game rights and Sony the movie rights only and we know this because it has been highly publicized and talked about. Xbox version has Spider Man in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... Not made by Sony nor are they involved in any way published by Nintendo has Spider Man in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
Because that's been public? Otherwise, why would Sony need Marvel Games' permission to make the game? Why would Sony not have made the games in-house and not Activision and their mess? Plus, both Spider-Men, Peter and Miles, showed up in Ultimate Alliance 3, which was a Switch exclusive, and both were voiced by Yuri Lowenthal and Nadji Jeter respectively. Sony currently only has the license for solo Spidey games.
Solo is the good shit ;-)
@amazinglover @ShadowWolf712 Thank you for the information.
Have you seen Ultimate alliance on the switch? Or literally any marvel mobile game that has spiderman in it
Yea, that's why Sony was on all the latest Spider-Man movies and let's not forget how Sony almost got Spider-Man knocked out of the MCU.
Big difference between movie rights and video game rights. Sony has the former but not the video game rights. They just happen to make a deal with Marvel games to have Spiderman.
Wrong. Sony owns the IP 100% they will let be in movies but they are not gonna let there biggest character go to Xbox
they don't own the video game rights though, they're being leased it. Where was it ever announced that Sony bought Spider man right for video games from Disney? Film rights? yeah they def own those, but game rights they don't, that still belongs to Disney.
Funny here is the video game for the sony made spider-man movie not made by sony and on nearly all platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... Sony doesn't own the video game rights Disney does they only have rights to make movies as marvel sold that off when they went bankrupt.
Sony owns 0% of the Spider man Ip. @ amazinglover Marvel didn't sell the movie rights to Sony, they licensed them to Sony for 20 years before Disney acquired them. Disney owns the movie rights.
They did sell the movie rights to sony, for 7 million dollars, as long as sony produce a spider-man movie once every 5.75 years they keep the rights, the deal could have changed since then but I dont see why sony would agree to a new deal though
I can't claim to understand the legal ramifications completely. But I do know Sony controls the rights to marketing and things like toy sales, so it's very likely they could make a legal case that they control the rights to use in something like a video game.
No they couldn't those are very specific and distinct types of entertainment.
Please provide your legal degree.
@Hakuoro Sony owns only the movie rights for Spidey. Toys made from said movies are owned by Disney. Sony don't have the merchandising rights. As for games, I think they only have the license to make Spidey's own game after Activision let theirs expired. The IP still belongs to Disney. I think as long as Spidey is not the main character, he can be used in Marvel theme games like MUA, LEGO Marvel games, MvsC games and this Avengers game. Maybe this time Sony paid for this exclusivity.
Good Lord. Why is everyone disagreeing with you? Disney - Game rights Sony - Movie rights It's pretty simple. That's all there is to it. I wouldn't put it past Sony to try to make Spider-Man an exclusive character here, but it's not ultimately up to them.
Lol 800 comments all saying the same thing.
I swear all y’all need to educate yourselves @ Raz I know because of something called common sense. 😑 Do you even know how these licenses work? Have you been living under a rock? You still see Spider-Man appear in titles like Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite, Lego Marvel Superheroes, & Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. Sony doesn’t have exclusive claim to his videogame appearances. Do you even know how asanine that sounds? You might as well say since Nintendo attained the license to publish Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 that they somehow own the videogame rights to all the characters that appeared in that title, even though Marvel’s Avengers being on every non-Nintendo platform clearly disputed that ridiculous notion. How is this not common knowledge? Various publishers have gained the license to multiple Marvel titles and you see same characters appearing in these multiple titles. There has never been a rights issue in the videogame realm like it was with the movies. In fact anybody who still thinks Sony’s Spider-Man videogame series is in any way related to their ownership of the Spider-Man film franchise is beyond foolish. It’s already been stated that Insomniac had a choice to work on any Marvel property and they just chose Spider-Man because their fans of the character. https://www.playstationlife... @ Blak My god I’m tired of fools who still think the movie rights are somehow related in anything here. It’s such a ridiculous claim it’s pitiably easy to dispute. You still see games based on Sony Pictures films appear on non Sony consoles for decades. Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, Men in Black, Ghost Rider, Surf’s Up & Smurfs not to mention all the previous games based on the Spider-Man films themselves have appeared on Nintendo and Xbox consoles. Do your history before bringing up such an embarrassing claim. For the umpteenth time the film and game rights have nothing to do with each other for the most part. @ coo Sony only owns the movie rights. They don’t own the character in any other medium. They attained the license to make games based on the character like any other gaming publisher has done. You gonna say Square Enix now owns all the Avengers characters in the videogame medium? @ Hak If you don’t know then don’t make up claims, it just makes you look foolish. Sony doesn’t own merchandising rights to Spider-Man anymore they sold those already https://comicbook.com/marve... Besides that Sony Pictures can’t make any claim they own the rights to the character in any medium since their license only pertains to the films. Sony Pictures and Sony Interactive Entertainment are two different entities.
"I know because of something called common sense. 😑 Do you even know how these licenses work? Have you been living under a rock?" lol....look at you all triggered because I dared ask a question. You'd think I just said you were an idiot and wrong. No, I don't know the details of Sony's license with Marvel regarding Spider-Man. Maybe that's why I asked the damn question.....ya think? "Common sense". "Sony doesn’t have exclusive claim to his videogame appearances. Do you even know how asanine that sounds?" Well....I guess it is a good thing I never made any such statement then, huh? You've gone on a tirade because I asked a question. Amazing.
So you wanted an asinine question to get an asinine answer? Nah fam if you have to ask a ridiculous question you’re getting an educated answer. I mean the answer is all over the internet. It’s not like I have some underground info on how licensed work
@Immagaiden "I mean the answer is all over the internet." Yeah, I could search the internet or I could just ask the person posting how they know what they do. What an "asinine" concept, right? "It's not like I have some underground info on how licensed work" lol....are you serious? Let's be clear. Unless you are looking at the actual agreement between the parties (or quoting them directly) as far as the IP is concerned, you *know* jack shit. The fact that Spider-Man is in Ultimate 3 (which I did not know as I don't have a Switch and don't follow that game) makes Fallen's assertion above plausible. The simple fact of the matter is that there has been some wild speculation on the subject of Spider-Man ever since Activision lost the license and unless someone is quoting Sony or Marvel directly then they are continuing to speculate. There are no "educated answers" here, only educated guesses. Spider-Man in Ultimate 3 (provided by amazinglover) was the only "education" I needed and not this massive overreaction.
So do you believe the exclusive DLC will be timed?
Sony doesn't own the Spiderman in general, only the movie franchise. The only possible way this can be Exclusive is if they want the Insomniac Spiderman in it. If that's the case then it is Exclusive.
I think when Marvel licensed Spiderman to Sony, they got exclusive rights. I don't know for how long.