Official Halo Twitter Account confirms Free-to-Play and 120FPS Support

"Halo is for everyone. We can confirm #HaloInfinite multiplayer will be free-to-play and will support 120FPS on Xbox Series X. More details will be shared later!"

[Asuka]

Ok this is awesome. 120fps on console is gonna be insane.

[Yi-Long]

I rather have stunningly gorgeous graphics and effects instead of sacrificing good stuff just so they can hit 120fps ...

[Asuka]

To each their own. I would rather lower resolution and higher fps in a shooter especially for multiplayer.

[Vegamyster]

If you have a setup that supports it then it’s a good trade off, I’m set on my PC but I haven’t looked into how many TVs support higher frame rates, hopefully they include some options for higher fidelity on console for those with 60hz panels.

[MadLad]

Because 120fps isn't "good stuff"
Have fun at 30fps then, as blurry as it is.

[RamRod88]

The game will have different graphical options to choose from. I'm sure they are well aware not everyone has the right tv for 120fps.

[bouzebbal]

120fps waste of resources and bad prioritizing.. Focus on 4k 60fps and good graphics.. Free to play will hurt the franchise imo

[sinspirit]

@Marquinho

"This will attract hordes of PC gamers to Halo."

It's already coming to PC, and PC gamers don't have a framerate cap, lol..

[darthv72]

@Yi... well in the case of this game, you get both. 4k 60fps for SP and 4k 120fps for MP.

And yes i do mean what I say. People dont really think the game is going to ship just like the demo do they???

[crazyCoconuts]

They didn't say, but they'll probably have different settings is my guess

[King_Noctis]

Clearly you don’t play alot of shooter if you prioritize graphic over fps.

[anubusgold]

@bouzebbal Go listen to the ps4 fanboys crying not to be matched with pc players on call of duty with 120 fps lol. They are crying its not fair they have faster response times lock them to 90 fps they are crying on the forums about it lol. So they got activison to let them turn it off.

[Xavi4K]

for competitive FPS graphic isn't very important take CS as an example

[PurpHerbison]

We have had two generations now where devs went graphics over performance and I'm over of it. Tired of the sluggish console games. Make 120fps the standard.

[itsmebryan]

You will have to wait and see what the difference is. I think you would notice more in single player because you have more time to take in the scenery. In a multi player it's more fast pace because you are trying to avoid getting killed by other players.

[Babadook7]

I’m assuming this is for multiplayer only. That’s how I read the quote:
“multiplayer will be free-to-play and will support 120FPS ”

Still a nice feature.

[DJStotty]

You will never have stunningly gorgeous graphics in competitive multiplayer, you need frame rate over anything else.

[anubusgold]

The only thing ps5 has is a tech demo and we havent forgot the so call toy story graphics of ps 3 tech demo that never happened lol

[crazyCoconuts]

Nothing is without tradeoffs

[ABizzel1]

The only issue I see with this is that the vast majority of 4KTVs don’t even support 120Hz. Great for those gaming on a monitor or capable TV.

[ForwardDude]

Also higher frame rate give a huge advantage in multiplayer as per Linus Tech tips video.

[Bruh]

Most of the Samsung QLEDs all have 120Hz panels, this is also the case for LG OLED and Sony OLED TVs as well. Granted these are higher end TV's, but they also aren't in insane price ranges where it can't be a purchase this holiday

[Skate-AK]

I think it is getting more popular. I bought a Vizio P55 F1 almost three years ago and it has 120fps support on one of the hdmi.

[edwardmde]

@Bruh there is a large number of 120hz panels yes.

The problem is unless you specifically bought a 120hz TV in the past 18 months or so with HDMI 2.1 features then they will only supports 120fps up to 1080p, not 4K.

[anubusgold]

I went back to 60fps and i got motion sick from how slow and unsmooth it was compared to 165+ screens and i dont get motion sick, you cant go back once you see it.

[Kaze88]

@edwardmde many tv's do not have native 120hz and also as you mentioned, specially not in 4K. Only if you have bought highend tv past two years you are good. If no, then you would need to buy a new one.

[Xx_Pistol_xX]

Problem with this is that a lot of console owners play on TV. And a lot of them at 60-90hz. So they are taking a hot graphically for a group that really won't get to utilize the FPS. Also I feel bad for the 60 fps players when they go head to head with the 120 fps players.

[KaladinStormblessed]

It won’t be that bad, 60 vs 120 isn’t nearly as big a difference than 30 to 60. At that point the only main difference is the slight input advantage. Considering halo isn’t an esports style shooter where literally every frame can make a difference (for the pros), I think it’ll work out just fine

[KaladinStormblessed]

It’s funny cuz everyvery one was complaining that people should focus more on getting FPS up rather than just improving the graphics and then someone finally makes that possible with still improved graphics (might not be pushing the generation graphically but still an upgrade) people are saying to focus more on graphics and not FPS...

I think this is great news, it’ll be so buttery smooth

[AngelicIceDiamond]

It's a continuous flip flop narrative.

[rainslacker]

I'm more curious at what point enough is high enough.

I see mention of 8k from time to time, and while that may be desirable my new 86" screen, it would be overkill on anything 65" or lower....which will be the vast majority of screens. 4k on .y screen looks great at that size, and 1080 content looks perfectly fine with the tvs upscaling. Computer graphics tend to be sharper than tv or movies though.

For a while now I've been listening to 60fps being where frame rate should be at or else the game is unplayable. Now I see some people saying that 120fps is better, and that's worth striving for.

The last part is fine, but there would be a lot of sacrifice to the graphics in that case. While for online games that may not be as important, quality graphics do make seeing things easier than what gain youd get from going from 60 to 120.

Just seems that the demands for what should be the expected are wildly varying and almost changing daily, with lots of excuses should things not meet those expectations.

[AsunaYuukiTheFlash]

360 graphics in 120 fps isn't that impressive.

[frostypants]

Sadly native 120hz televisions are still very rare. Most claiming the capability do so via 60hz with interpolation.

[Vx_]

Can play Minecraft on 120fps why not Halo? Not much gfx difference

[CaptainHenry916]

Will it have Microtransactions though

[BenRC01]

Its official, all games will look like one s games, one s 1080p, x will run 4k 60/30, series x 4k 120. Thats why all the games looked like ass. Series x is crippled by the one s as I suspected.

[crazyCoconuts]

So the game will be less than $60? $40 perhaps?

[aconnellan]

That depends, are single player-only games less than $60?

[crazyCoconuts]

Depends on the perceived value of the game.

[sinspirit]

Kept at $60 to incentivise the investment into GamePass more likely

[crazyCoconuts]

I'm surprised they went F2P for that very reason. MP Halo would be one of those things you could get included with GamePass

[spicelicka]

LOL considering Halo games tend to have 2-3 times the content of a regular game on average, $60 would be fair for just the campaign. Specially if it's double the size of their last 2 games, as they are claiming.

But realistically it's probably going to be more like COD in the sense that one or two modes will be free to play, like COD Warzone, and it's own warzone+forge+custom games+firefight modes will be part of the main package.

[rainslacker]

60 is applied to a lot of games nowadays regardless of content. Some games with massive amounts of content arent more expensive than games with what may not even be the bare minimum of acceptable content.

The halo campaign will probably enough to be considered acceptable though. The series never slouched, and this one is open world with more side stuff to do apparently.

[King_Noctis]

Why should it be less than $60 just because it doesn’t have multiplayer?

[crazyCoconuts]

I don't know... All the other Halos were $60 and they DID have multiplayer, so...I guess we'll see

[RamRod88]

It's going to be $60. Even with the multiplayer being f2p, it will have Forge(already confirmed) and at least some other mode like Firefight or Warzone.

[Master-Tonberry]

120fps is awesome, but it will come with a significant cost to the visuals and most will have to upgrade their TV's (and possibly receivers) to use it.
Also I do wonder how much of an advantage the higher frame rate will give to those who can use it, could it be deemed unfair for competitive FPS games in the same way that KB/M is VS controllers often is?

[dumahim]

Yeah, and no mention of what resolution it would be running 120fps? I think having better resolution would be more beneficial than having that high of a framerate.

[Minute Man 721]

1440p

[GamerRN]

Confirmed 4k 120fps already

[dumahim]

@GamerRN
Citation needed. Everything I found about it only says 120 fps with no mention of resolution. Their own site will only say 4k/60 for the campaign.

https://www.halowaypoint.co...

[IRetrouk]

Its upto 4k, 60fps for single player, means its reconstructed, or checkerboard, whichever name you prefer, that means the multiplayer 100% wont be 4k 120fps.
Time to start being realistic.

[Notellin]

No thanks in multiplayer give me frame rate over resolution any day of the week.

[rainslacker]

Can't wait until the gen finally gets going, and most games end up not going to 120fps, and then people stop acting like 60 or now 120 fps is the end all be all of what next gen should be about. I've never seen so many people find so many reasons why a game isn't playable as I have over the past year or two. It's either graphics, resolution, frame rate, or visual quality. It's always something, and people acting like if it doesn't meet some magical target number, it's a fail.

[chiefJohn117]

"over the past year or two"
😏 You must be new to gaming

[rainslacker]

People have always talked about that stuff, but I've never seen so many act like if a game doesnt meet some number they have in their head, that they consider it unplayable.

This is mostly seen in fps talk nowadays, but I've lost count of the number of people who say they wont play a game unless its 60fps.

I know its BS from a lot of them, because I know they're console gamers, and so few games hit that target it means they wouldnt be playing many games.

Unfortunately all these things tend to be disparate between people and groups, and some people go too far to act like what they want is the only thing that matters, and unfairly criticize games that dont meet their requirements.

[Hedstrom]

What a stupid priority! Make it 60fps and make it look better than a 360 game!

[IRetrouk]

The single player is 60fps, the 120 is only for multiplayer, it really doesnt explain why the campaign looks so bad, it will be used as a defence though, that much you can count on.

[Minute Man 721]

Campaign looks like a$$ because the assets are horrible looking

[IRetrouk]

It does, I didnt expect it to look so current gen and have all the load issues so close to launch, but it does and that's that, theres some polish time left but not much, I dont think it will make or break the game to be fair, as long as it's fun for the fans that's all that matters really, some of the excuses for why it looks the way it does do make me scratch my head though, its cross gen, that's the reason lol.

[rainslacker]

That would imply the MP would look worse.

Granted, things like raytracing would go underappreciated in MP where you're more focused on shooting other people.

[IRetrouk]

I mean, it could, and probably will have less particles etc going on, I dont want that to be the case but it cant look any better than the single player if its running at double the frames, no way at all.

[RamRod88]

Not for people that prefer gameplay over graphics, especially if it's multiplayer. You will still be able to play the game at 60fps and the campaign will still run at 60fps.

[LOGICWINS]

So Microsoft should listen to you (a random Internet bro) instead of attempting to duplicate the proven success of Fortnite....the biggest and most lucrative video game phenomenon in the past decade...that happens to look like a 360 game?

[potatoseal]

100% agree

[King_Noctis]

Not surprising.

[ichdich]

wow thats a big news!

[Kaedro]

Ok, if the whole game was 120fps I would not mind the meh graphics. I'll take fps over graphics and 4k any day.

[Pancit_Canton]

Only PC gamers would benefit from this. Other than that, it's still a dumpster fire of a game. Another PR marketing from Microsoft.

[Goukira]

Free to play but needs xbox gold? Why are consoles always skipping steps that they cant handle? Gen before focusing on 4k output which they were clearly not rdy for. Should have gone with 1440p and 30/60 fps with higher visual fidelity. And now they suddenly want 120fps with hardly any tvs supporting 120hz. Instead of 4k 60fps or 1440p with higher fidelity.

[RamRod88]

Rumors of Xbox live gold going away next gen to play multiplayer games, or at the very least for f2p games.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Free to play means no gold at all. I don't know why ppl are trying to spin this.

[IRetrouk]

Really?

I dont know why people make things up.

https://ibb.co/ZWsjs8W

[RamRod88]

You need gold to play any game on Xbox including f2p this gen.

[rainslacker]

F2P means that you pay for gold, or some other sort of in game currency.

Oh, you mean XBLG. As of now you still need it for Xbox console games, even F2P. That may change, but as of now it's based on some assumptions.

[jznrpg]

Free to play ? Ugh

[cyberFUTUR3]

You need skills and a lot of work to make a great looking game.
You need nothing but a powerful hardware and/or a bad looking game to reach 120 fps.
Microsoft chose facility, once again. It's pure shame.

[rainslacker]

It can be a skill to make a simple looking game look good as well. There's an art to what I guess I'll call minimalist graphic design. I dont think that's what they were going with for halo though.

[Father__Merrin]

lock it at 60fps and dail as much up as possible. so this is confirmation that multiplayer wont be shipping on disc its a full seperate free to play game akin to warzone to make money of MT im ok with that tbh

[Games1st]

With no yearly pass and this being f2p, it is a lot more likely that online will be free. PS and Nin would follow since they have a lot less value in online.

[SpaceRanger]

“ PS and Nin would follow since they have a lot less value in online.”

Lol they all do the same thing. What the heck?

[Hedstrom]

No f2p games on PlayStation require PS+! All f2p games on Xbox requires Xbox Live gold! Its been a thing, it is a thing!

[zero_jp]

Oh there’s definitely a problem here and it’s one that 343 and Microsoft have created together because they want to hit 120FPS. Unfortunately they can’t hit that number without dumbed down graphics on the Series-X with a game like this unless they changed it to a cartoony art style like Fortnite. (CRINGE)

So there you have it friends mystery solved. Just like the 4K they obsessively want to hit for every game at the expense of framerate and v-sync being enabled which is bizarre.

If any of you have played Modern Warfare 2019’s BR or MP on the One X you’ll know exactly what I’m talking about. They at this point have boxed themselves into a corner for no reason other than to meet arbitrary talking points.

[Tacoboto]

Up to 120fps for Gears 5 and Halo. Dirt 5 is another one in the 120fps club. There aren't as many TVs today but when the people upgrade their sets over the course of the gen, these early pushes will benefit what comes when it's mass adopted

[rainslacker]

I think 60hz tvs will still be the most common. Many will advertise 120hz like they do now, but that's interpolated, which really isnt that big of a deal with 4k except with some pixel configurations of parallel lines along a relatively horizontal plane to the bottom of the tv...like window blinds for instance.

Anyhow, the reason is is that they can get more yield, and screens that come off the assembly line and cant run at 120hz will be sold to manufacturers as 60hz displays. For the most part, there are only a few makers of these scenes, and they all.get made on the same factory lines. It's the quality of the panel off the factory line, and the electronics which produce the image which change how they look. There are multiple screens from each manufacturer though.

[TheColbertinator]

This is good news.

[Antnee534]

So I am happy about this, but does this not just make it another reason not to buy the game? I mean the story of halo has been trash since four and even though the mp has been trash since four as well, but they are making the part most people buy this game for a free to play mode. This seems like a counter intuitive way to make money off your biggest game on series x for the next 3 years.. again I'm happy because as a consumer I'm a winner but just saying...

[potatoseal]

Free-to-play is a bad idea for the quality of the game. It means microtransactions and lots of them. I personally would be pissed with this because I don't like free-to-play style of game.

[CobraKai]

Got a brand new 4k tv that doesn’t support 120 FPS so it wouldn’t really matter. The real question is if players can be filtered so the 120 FPS players don’t have an advantage over 60 and below.

[rainslacker]

I doubt it would make that much difference. There isnt any perceptible difference to the human eye, and input lag is likely to be higher. Just using a controller makes it so the advantage is lost. Controller sensitivity is nowhere close to that small to be able to take advantage of that high a frame rate.

[CobraKai]

Good to know

[anast]

900p Xbox one style

[northpaws]

Might as well do N64 graphic and go 1200fps

[Teflon02]

Don't you have to pay for online to play f2p games on Xbox? Might as well say the online is free with Xbox live then lol

[Ghostbob]

120FPS on Xbox Series X means it even going to look worst.

[frayed]

It's nice to see support for 120hz in a console game, but I have a hard time imagining how it would make a huge difference using a controller. I've always appreciated high frame rates in competitive games using a mouse, but generally if I'm using a controller ( which slows everything down) I tend to up the resolution and dial down the fps as it doesn't feel drastically different above 45fps. At least to me, 60hz would seem the sweet spot on controller - I guess that's why it's good to have options, for those that do want it, though.

[PurpHerbison]

I'm actually down for lesser graphics in favor of responsive gameplay.

[jwillj2k4]

You need to see the bigger picture. It’s all making sense now. There is a reason why the graphics look the way they do and it’s not because of “artistic vision”. They are basically performing a cash grab under the guise of a new halo game. A free to play multiplayer tells us their intention was not to spend a lot of money in the graphics dept. The focus is to make the gameplay addictive. Be clear, addictive != fun.

Graphics only need to be “good enough” for these types of games. They will probably have a hybrid model where your interactions across multiplayer and solo campaign create new opportunities/weapons in both. This will drive the addiction for players wanting to achieve 100% completion, thus throwing unknown amounts of money at the game over a series of years.

There is nothing wrong with this type of game as long as you know what it is from the get go. What’s driving people mad is the fact that they are doing it with the HALO brand, which tarnished Microsoft flagship title. Based on their history, Microsoft’s just Microsofting 😐

[Exvalos]

What gamer has a tv capable of 120 frames?

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Having a 240hz 1080p G-SYNC panel and playing some games like Overwatch and Paladins all settings maxed at over 200fps it will be always FPS over higher res. (At least for me) Now until 4k can reach those FPS I'll stay with 1080p.

[chiefJohn117]

Wtf! Hell yeah!!!

[fastNslowww]

Expect the graphics to look even worse thanks to 120fps.