Halo Infinite plans to be a ten-year game, but can 343 Industries really keep fans invested in the game for an entire decade?
Judging by the gameplay so far, I'm going to say no. This was also the plan for Destiny 1
I hate these GaaS route that MS plans to take with their games, Halo GaaS, Forza GaaS, Fable probably GaaS (those are the rumors at least), Everwild GaaS. Does this mean we will get even less games from MS if all those teams are supporting those 10 year plans?
Exactly my fear as well. I want to support M$ next generation, but I’m getting nervous. I have no interest in Gamepass, or 10 year “serviceable” games without sequels.
Lot of assumptions going on here. Little fact.
depends on the game, sometimes GaaS works great, sometimes not depends on the game and the implementation.
@CyberSentinel Wait...you want to support MS, but have no interest in gaas or gamepass which is what Ms is all about right now so my question is, why exactly do you want to support ms new console then?
@Army of Darkness I love some of M$’s franchises like, Gears, Halo, Fable, Crackdown, Ori, Cuphead, etc. I want to own those games on physical media. I want Sequels. If I’m not going to be able to have those things, then I have no reason to buy a Xbox.
If Halo Infinite wasn't a Xbox One game, but Xbox Series X and PC only game, the chances it could last ten years would be greater. I personally hope Microsoft rethinks their strategy and comes out to say that their cancelling the Xbox One version. Having Halo Infinite exclusive to the Xbox Series X would be a reason to upgrade to the next Xbox system, because unfortunately right now there isn't any Xbox Series X exclusives until 22. The reason I say that is because all Microsoft showed was CGI trailers and as a gamer I want Xbox Series X to be successful, because it pushes PlayStation 5 to bring out better games too. I really want Microsoft to stick around in the video game market, but unfortunately from what was shown, I can still play Halo Infinite on my Xbox One and Xbox Series X exclusives games won't be coming out soon. So that is why I say cancel the game for Xbox One and make Halo Infinite an exclusive, then after that happens I'll have a reason to buy a Xbox Series X at launch.
Not gonna happen. It would be backing out of a massive commitment that was started with Play Anywhere since 2014.
I agree it won't happen, but as a Xbox fan, I personally think it would be the smarter thing for the Xbox Series X in the long run. Yes in the short term you'll have Xbox fans angry about it, but giving fans a reason to upgrade is the smarter choice long term.
Scalability doesnt change the quality of a game. I can play todays best game on a laptop with integrated graphics and it can look like an N64 game, or I can play it on the best PC money can buy and it would blow your mind. The issue is development breakdown likely pandemic related.
Well thankfully they've only comitted to cross-gen for a year. Next-gen only multiplats might give people enough of a reason to upgrade, although the PS5 might look like a more attractive option if Sony manages to have the more impressive exclusives early on. Backing out of their cross-gen commitment won't really help those early titles, because it's too late to fundamentally rework them now. It would seem like a desperation move to make people buy the new console. Flip-flopping on that issue with their flagship title wouldn't sit well with their fanbase after MS have adamantly proclaimed how anti-consumer such a move would be. I'm afraid they have to sit this one out and hope that 3rd parties carry them through the transition period.
Is it a year? Or is it two. Microsoft have actually been quite vague about something that should have been marked on a calendar: https://www.mcvuk.com/busin... “As our content comes out over the next year, two years, all of our games, sort of like PC, will play up and down that family of devices,” Booty explains. “We want to make sure that if someone invests in Xbox between now and [Series X] that they feel that they made a good investment and that we’re committed to them with content.”
@morganfell: I agree it's a very vague statemement. It could be interpreted as everything from: -a little over a year from the point of the interview to -two years from the console's launch In a sense it's a fairly non-committal statement, but my main point was that pulling current gen support from the titles that have already confirmed it wouldn't be a good move. I could see the transition being much less significant than many people think. Especially now that we know that Hellblade 2, Avowed, Fable, Everwild, Forza and State of Decay 3 are next-gen only titles. Correct me if I'm wrong but Halo Infinite was the only cross-gen game we've seen from Xbox game studios. Edit: According to wikipedia Grounded, Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3 are current gen.
Playstation 5 will be sitting at approx 30m plus by the time series X gets a decent 1st party game. The goto system for the casuals would have already been won by playstation by that point and only see series X at 10/12m after 2 years. After that reveal event its already game over. Within the nxt 2 years Phil Spencer will be gone aswell and it'll be a fresh start.
@ sprinter If the PS5 is @$500, Good luck selling 30 million consoles in 2 years
It's way too late for them to drop XBO support and to take full advantage of the XSX's hardware. That's something they gotta do much earlier into development.
"So that is why I say cancel the game for Xbox One and make Halo Infinite an exclusive, then after that happens I'll have a reason to buy a Xbox Series X at launch." It's too late to cancel it for xbox one. Ms from the beginning of Halo infinity's development should have been exclusively for the series x. Take advantage of the Series X's graphical power, the fast SSD etc. Imagine the difference that would have made when comparing it to previous Halos. Im pretty sure the xbox/halo fans wont mind at all. I mean just look at the difference between R&C ps4 vs R&C Rift apart(ps5) Horizon zero dawn and Horizon Forbidden West.
I am gonna gamble and say Yes, but not 10. Halo fans LOVE Halo. They keep coming back to it. And almost no hardcore fan disliked Halo 5 Multiplayer. Given most of this "Halo as a Platform" will involve small story tidbits and mostly multiplayer activity I think it can last 5 Years. (10 is just unrealistic and you know it) That was IF the game had been a graphical knockout or atleast passable next gen. The tech and game design are already set in stones now, nothing going to change drastically in just 4 months. But I do not dare predict against Halo fans, they love this shit so much so yeah they will singlehandedly carry this franchise into a 3 - 6 Million Seller in year one.
I am a hardcore Halo fan who disliked Halo 5 because it had squeaky hit marker and shield regen sound effects. I never completed a single SP mission nor MP match in H5 those sound effects were so obnoxious to me. 343 i even responded to heavy criticism by dialing back those horrid sound effects to occur only after getting a kill instead of how it was in the beta where literally every single solitary shot landed bathed the sound scape in bird chirps and consequently nobody could even hear the actual gun sounds!
Please don't fabricate the meaning of "hardcore Halo fan". Most fans didn't like 4 or 5. The ones that stick with it are part of the problem. The games are just not good. They're average games in a Halo skin and spit on the past titles. They show that they've been written by too many individual authors of generic sci-fi books and not creative minds with a hint of originality like the original Halo writers.
All of my friends and I had a blast with Halo 4. Both its campaign and multiplayer were lit. 343 Industries even said " beginner's luck" when praised by critics.
3-6 million for a game free on Gamepass?? 3-6 million download maybe with a nice graphics that show how many million hours played or how many billion "Greg" killed. Also Ghost of Tsushima a new IP PS4 exclusive sold at 60$ sold 2.3 million in 3 day. 3-6 million in one year for a Halo game released on 3 platform is really low.
Only full MMO's seem to last that long.
So long as they don't bring back those squeaky hit marker and shield regen sound effects from Halo 5 yes!
Looks like it already has.
It won't last a year never mind 10. Series X sales will be weak imo first year and not many xbox one owners will play it (casual crowd fortnite). It'll be dead in a year
The multiplayer absolutely can. Halo 3's been going since 2007 including MCC and now PC - it rarely takes over a minute to find a match now and H3 is the only ranked Team Slayer playlist on console.
That's a good halo though, this looks terrible.
We've only seen campaign. Have you seen in-gameplay shots of Brutes from the previous games? They look way worse than we choose to remember.
No, like all other GaaS BS, if you consider the same player will be motivated to play it consistently for 10. If they consider 10 years but with evolving player base it can, but that would mean that they will be no new Halo game for the next 10 years, but endless recycling.
It'll be just like destiny, grinding, same enemy types over and over, daily missions, weekly raids etc. It really is a destiny clone, and there banking on microtransactions, loot boxes etc over the 10 years plus I suppose they'll add BR down the road and they'll be hoping that's the nxt fortnite killer but sadly that ain't gonna happen. All MS are doing this gen is hoping for that killer fortnite game and put it on gamepass so gamers have to pay the £14.99 every month to play it. Hate to break it too MS but the casual will always go with the f2p game behind no pay wall.
“It'll be just like destiny, grinding, same enemy types over and over, daily missions, weekly raids etc” There’s been absolutely zero information released - or even leaked - that suggests this will be the case. “there banking on microtransactions, loot boxes etc” Unfortunately sounds like there will be micro transactions, but fortunately not loot boxes. No word on what the transactions will be though: https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/... “plus I suppose they'll add BR down the road” No BR is being made or planned: https://www.gamespot.com/ar...
I play all the Halo games from time to time. I played Halo 1 and 2 yesterday.
Maybe to get the graphics right
If it ever reaches year one.
if xbox gamers let ms milk it and make it a gaas micro fest, then yes. thats exactly what it looks like ms wants to do with their flagship franchise. Phil knows people will pay for gamepass subs and keep renewing and waiting for ms to add content like they did with sot as opposed to making a solid AAA complete game day one. Those days are gone and what you get now is the result of gamepass and the gaas approach ms is hell bent on using to milk the fanbase for all they are worth. the games they put out are proof of it.
That's all MS is banking on, that killer gamepass fortnite killer game so they can get the kids hooked. That ain't gonna happen though cause the casual will play the f2p killer game which is not hiding behind a pay wall/sub
Halo infinite can last for ever!!! It’s infinite!!! With graphics and physic like that, not to mention the amazing fast paced gun play and extremely lived in dense open world.... I can’t wait to be playing this ten years into the future. 😂
I have no issue with GaaS as long as it's done correctly. I think it's fair to say, lets wait to see what their plan is before and everything else the game has to offer has before hating on it.
If the games complete then GaaS games are fine, it's when they release a bare bones game and you end up waiting 2 years for the game the devs advertised ie NMS and SoT are how not too to do it. SoT can just about be classed as a game now and that came out when? 90% of gamers have moved on to other games.
I wasn't happy with how SoT launched as much as anyone else, but Rare has done a fantastic job at continues support and monthly updates. SoT it's as popular now as it ever has so you're wrong about that. You're saying Halo is going to be dead in a year based on sales of Series X? Sorry to disappoint you, but the console won't have a problem selling. If the Xbox one with it's disastrous PR and everything else can do reasonable well it's first year, Series X shouldn't have anything to worry about. If Lockhart exist too at the rumored price, Xbox won't have a problem selling.
Here’s my guess. Nope. Personally, I like games worth purchasing, games that feel like a complete experience when I get them, games that don’t feel the need to “evolve” over time. Games as a service is just never-ending filler content to keep a game going. Not the same as providing a new solid classic, then following it up with an inspired sequels without new material being forced once or twice a year. Speaking for my preferences only.
If you don't mind dated visuals right out of the game, then maybe.
gate*, ugh, 2 minutes late for an edit. Why is there a timer on that again?
sure it can, in the same way that destiny did :)
Let’s focus on it coming out in a decent state first. If not, the first two of those ten years would be spent bringing it up to par.
Simple answer. No
I think this games going to have loot crates like a mf in the online. I think the put a toe in with guardians. I think it’s going down this time around.
No. It is already off the rails.
Regardless of what the game looks like or how it plays, I'd say no. Not that it cant, but whenever a company says they have some 10 year plan, it never happens. That's because things change in the gaming atmosphere, and just life in general. Come out and just say we plan on supporting this with new content, new stories and campaigns etc for years to come until we see fit. That's all. But now when year 2 rolls around and they announce Halo whatever name, loads of people will whine....what about the 10 years. So as usual with MS, I think this is a bad move.
There is no well reviewed single player 343i made Halo campain till now and Halo multiplayer will be forgotten once the next good call of duty release or if a new popular battle royale or cool multiplayer mode game release. In 2 years, nobody on PC gonna remember Halo Infinite even exist. Cross play betwen Xbox and PC gonna make console player rage quit because of K&M. No crystal ball needed to see the disaster coming.
Well it looks like a 5 year old game, so the question is; can it last another five years?
I have a feeling theyll add a battle royale lol
Ive never seen a game last ten years, that was the Destiny model and unless you are hard into Destiny, well hell its went free to play, the last stage before death. Everyone also already hates the presentation, unless they take it beyond teh usual enemise (brutes, covenant etc) no way it lasts ten years
They're doing cross gen in the first place because they aren't confident they can sell as many hardware units this time, so they need to rely on software sales more then ever. If they released on Xbox SeX only it would hurt their potential software sales, but at the same time they aren't giving anyone a good enough reason to buy the new Xbox, especially when PC is becoming the real all in one machine with both Sony and MS on it.
It didn't last the showcase how is it supposed to last for 10 year? Unless they eventually ditch the Xbox One version.
The sheer number of games with GaaS models is going to stretch playerbases thinner and thinner. Most people will have one, maybe two games at most that they play for years. It simply takes too much time and investment to do any more, especially if you occasionally play other games in between or have other interests. And 10 years is a long, long time. An amazing game can still get boring after 10 years, and who knows what other games we'll see next gen?
Lol "let's literally make it INFINITE! Don't you guys love live service?"
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