Top
710°

Are Xbox Series X developers being held back by Xbox One?

"Held back is a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition"

Read Full Story >>
gamesindustry.biz
The story is too old to be commented.
Obscure_Observer25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The response to all those who said Xbox Series X developers are being held back by Xbox One is coming!

The next Xbox Series X first party will highlight how much of true next gen games the launch PS5´s games trully are in comparisson with launch Series X games.

I can´t wait! ;)

Mr Pumblechook25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Generational exclusives have always been something to celebrate, but because Microsoft’s marketing deem they are anti-consumer we are meant to not want them?

Obscure_Observer25d ago

@Mr Pumblechook

"but because Microsoft’s marketing deem they are anti-consumer we are meant to not want them?"

Do you have a source on MS claiming Sony´s next gen strategy is anti-consumer? I´ll wait.

S2Killinit25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The truth is, we have always expected new games with our new consoles. Just as we always thought exclusives were important. Unfortunately we live in a post facts world. The corporations push any message/thought that they want through social media and let the rest play out as it does.

RgR24d ago

Well they are technically anti consumer since it forces the consumer to upgrade to the next gen. In past gen's it made sense to move on since the technical leap was massive. Between these two gen's however the leap is not as present...sure there's the SSD but not all devs will design for it.

If aony had not released the PRO I would be more understanding of their position...but they did release the pro only to make it obsolete a short while after. That is anti consumer.

rdgneoz324d ago

Yes, its anti-consumer to want your games to take full advantage of the system, and not be held back by 8 year old tech...

zeuanimals24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

@RgR:

The only games that require a PS5 are PS5 exclusives, which will undoubtedly be designed around the SSD. But I suppose Sony should just make prettier versions of PS4 exclusives instead of actually making use of the capabilities of the PS5, cause that'll make people happy about their next-gen purchase.

The CPUs on the PS4/XBO are also atrocious and held the two back as well. You can bet AI, physics, etc. are gonna be better in games not designed around last-gen hardware.

Unspoken24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

It will come down to the scalability of the MS apis and engine's in use. We need proper devs to be able to take advantage of newer hardware while allowing a paired back version be played on older hardware.

If the OG Xbox architecture was similar to later iterations it wouldn't be as much of an issue.

Xbox will be more inclusive of it's player base. Sony will not. This can affect multiplayer games.

Mr Pumblechook24d ago

@Obscure_Observer To answer your question Phil Spencer has commented on it.

“ Xbox head Phil Spencer has said he believes that generational exclusives are “completely counter to what gaming is about.”

https://www.videogameschron...

Obscure_Observer24d ago

@Mr Pumblechook

Thank you. He´s not calling Sony anti-consumer though. But I have to admit that even minimum criticism regarding Sony´s next gen plans feels wrong coming from him. Specially when his company has been doing it for three generations. Smh.

Sunny_D24d ago

It’s just more marketing buzzwords from Microsoft to deceive their consumers like “Next gen framerates” 😂

+ Show (6) more repliesLast reply 24d ago
RpgSama25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

""Yes, every developer is going to find a line and say that this is the hardware that I am going to support, but the diversity of hardware choice in PC has not held back the highest fidelity PC games on the market"

Lol, what is Phil Spencer supposed to say? Even then, he talked about fidelity, everybody else is talking about scope and new experiences.

Fidelity is very scalable, more and better textures, higher resolution and framerates, but new and different experiences, no, games have to be able to run in all SKU's even if at different fidelity levels.

Marquinho25d ago

Every company should support their installed fanbase for a reasonable period of time. Ditching a 100+ million userbase in order to sell PS5 doesn't sound right.

FlavorLav0124d ago

Not ditching,..3rd party support for 100+ million isn’t going anywhere, PS Plus free games continue to add value, PS Now is already the better “gamepass” that no one talks about which will get even better once next-gen launches, add in likely console price drops and some big cross-gen titles to still be announced. PS4 owners will assuredly still be taken care of for a good bit longer

24d ago
Imortus_san24d ago

Sony hasn't show news first Party AAA Games for PS4 since 2016, there were none in 2017, none in 2018, none in 2019 and again none in 2020, they have jumped ship long ago, the games that are hitting started development before 2017.

They did the same with the PS3 and PS Vita, facts are tuff but real.

Hakuoro24d ago

There are multiple ways to do that, PS4 has games that are scheduled to release on it for at least two years.

Support doesn't need to mean holding back early adopters of the new system. If I buy a PS5 at launch I want there to begames made specifically for the PS5 hardware, not just upgraded PS4 games.

ActualWhiteMan24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

@Imortus_sam above me is smoking some real good crack.

This year so fare we have Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima. Last year we had Death Stranding. Medieval, Days Gone... 2018 was Spiderman. We get MLB the Show every year.

zeuanimals24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Nah, the reason MS has to support the XBO still is because their support all gen has been terrible. They also have a bad reputation for not supporting their consoles towards the end of a gen to prop up the next-gen console with more games. Sony doesn't have that reputation. This year alone, they released Dreams, TLOU2, and then we're gonna get GOT soon. Sony has the goodwill to move to next-gen immediately cause they always put their full support behind their consoles all-gen leading to way more satisfied customers.

MS's approach actually makes a ton of sense since their offerings have been mostly meh with some good but nothing amazing, but they managed to prop up the gen with consumer friendly things like BC and game pass. While great, it's obvious they had to do something to make the XBO not a terrible console with almost nothing going for it. And since their acquisitions of various studios happened recently, they still don't have enough games to spread between next and current-gen so they're just gonna merge the two gens for atleast a year or two, with game pass and BC likely playing huge roles and getting people on the XSX.

Sunny_D24d ago

You know what support actually looks like? Releasing 2 highly rated exclusives back to back in the last year of a console before next gen. Where are you Microsoft?

RosweeSon24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

They’ve been more than supported from day1 and the games are still launching.
As for Imortus-San what are you even on about ive seen this mentioned before but do you people not even have google. Sony haven’t shown new games since 2016? What year did god of war come out? 2018!!
Spider-Man?
Oh last of us 2... came out a month ago 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷 🏻‍♂️🤣 ghost out next week. Ask Siri or something before you talk utter nonsense. They didn’t stealth launch those games I’m sure if you type those games into YouTube it even clearly states e3 trailers from years 2016-2019 so 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦 🏻‍♂️😂

janus22524d ago

We know why Microsoft cant evolve now!

TheTony31624d ago

Imortus_san

Ghost of Tsushima was announced in late 2017. So your entire comment is wrong lol.

Spicyram24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Immortus_san

O my God that was such a dumb comment - if you want to try troll Sony first party output and ignore what Microsoft has done in comparison, then i think it just shows desperate, desperate bias.

"Sony hasn't show news first Party AAA Games for PS4 since 2016, there were none in 2017, none in 2018, none in 2019 and again none in 2020"

O my word that is such a f#*ing lie. Sony announced Ghost of tsushima in 2017 pgs, and that game is releasing next week. Horizon zero dawn was a new AAA IP days gone was a new AAA ip. Dreams was a new AAA new ip which released this year. Sony is literally giving people 2 NEW AAA ip in a single year, highlighting the rank stupidity of your comment.

Right there, that's already 4 more than Microsoft JUST THERE (not announced, but released, which is still a shit load more than another company can say) maybe you should rather keep your mouth shut if you dont know what you're talking about.

O, also Sony has without a shadow od a doubt mopped the floor with Microsoft's face when it comes to Exclusive games. It's actually become embarrassing now.

+ Show (8) more repliesLast reply 24d ago
Rude-ro25d ago

Right?!
Just like the amazing exclusive AAA games they released this last 9 years! Am I right?!
:/

Obscure_Observer24d ago

9 years? That´s Microsoft!

PS4 got released in 2013, dude. Sony first party support to ends this year which means 7 years. MS will support Xbox One with first party games till 2022.

remixx11624d ago

@obscure

Not to troll or anything but MS first party support has been half assed thus whole gen, 2 more years won't mean much

zeuanimals24d ago

@Obscure_observer:

The PS4 has been on a role since 2015 and it hasn't slowed down since. This year they released Dreams and TLOU2 with GOT a week away from now. Sure, Sony's dropping PS4 support, but they have the goodwill to because they've been supporting it all gen.

MS has half-assed it all gen with BC and game pass propping up any goodwill MS is trying to have. They'd be crucified if they pulled another Xbox 360 and had terrible support only to leave everyone hanging so they can focus on next-gen.

Chevalier24d ago

" MS will support Xbox One with first party games till 2022."

What a joke. So 2 years of support near the end make you forget the garbage support for 7 years? 10 years if you include the end of the 360 era. Seriously the idiotic things you say are the only thing that consistently rolls out.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 24d ago
-Foxtrot24d ago

If you think an older console with lower specs compared to a brand new top of line one won’t hold new games back then you are delusional

How can first party games benefit when they have to be super careful dealing with the new beefier specs

Can’t have a game doing X, Y and Z if the old console doesn’t have the tools to do it, isn’t it about “parity” after all.

Koolaidude24d ago

Same way PC games are designed for lower rigs. Incoming downvoted for Sony fans 😂.

generic-user-name24d ago

Yes, I'll be keeping an eye open for true leaps such as Ratchet and Clanks' instant world loading and not just mere visuals.

gravedigger24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Yep! HDD on X1 is the real problem. Looks like Phil Spencer ignores HDD problem on X1 and on a bunch of PCs and there will be a bottleneck.

Cross gen hold back what you can do on next-generation hardware.

Phil Spencer really underestimating what the game developed only around SSD is going to bring in terms of game design.

rainslacker24d ago

It's not really a problem for MS. The games they have now were made for this gen, or not made to take advantage of next gen. They can make them cross gen and bolster their launch line up. Theyll even try hard to make it sound exclusive....notice how they arent making a major point about halo being cross gen, but it is a launch game doe XSX?

I'm not against MS releasing on this gen if it's possible. But not having full exclusives is indicative of the same problem they've had all gen, which is they weren't trying to get to where they need to be. So, with the XSX release, people.are still left waiting. This is why it's annoying when people say that they've fixed all their problems, because all I see is more waiting.

zeuanimals24d ago

The CPUs on both the XBO and PS4 were terrible since launch and they held back the consoles as well. It's different next-gen, both CPUs don't absolutely suck at launch! CPU heavy processes like AI and physics have the potential to be much better in games not designed around Jaguar CPUs.

leoms24d ago Show
rainslacker24d ago

Wow...I didbt think it was possible to go more full on fan boy than you normally do. But, you are proving you defy expectations. Too bad I have higher expectations of you, than you have of MS though. But, guess life is like that sometimes.

Hakuoro24d ago

My question would be if there is nothing they can't do on the xbone then why not support the Xbone forever? What's going to happen after two years when they are supposedly going to release SX only games?

Again this is Phil double talking himself. If you want to milk gamepass fine we get it. Why does he always have to lie,?

There are a lot of reason i don't support Xbox but the constant lies and B.S is high up on the list.

rainslacker24d ago

If MS were going go release next gen exclusives, I doubt any person would criticize them for it. If they also had a good number of cross gen games, I'd say good on them for not artificially boosting their launch line up like they did this gen.

But, what it comes down to is they're pushing this idea that better graphics=next gen. While that is kind of true on a broad level, I think Sony is delivering a more exciting message of new types of experiences to go along with those better graphics.

Whether sony manages to release enough to satiate peoples curiosity or desire remains to be seen, but at least its apparent they arent waiting it out. It does mean leaving some people not ready to upgrade behind, but that's nothing new in the console space. Sony traditionally still supports their older consoles though. Probably wont be any big games though.

Koolaidude24d ago

Third party developers are free to make series x exclusive. The medium is an example. I swear Sony fans repeats the same nonsense every time. Plus it’s not like PlayStation is notorious for getting good games in the first two years anyway.

1Victor24d ago

Not to stir the pot but IF Microsoft show xbsex first party game its ether a lie or something else as they said it would take 2YEARS to release first party game taking full advantage of the new console. More than likely they will show end of current gen games optimize for the next gen and that’s not next gen

zeuanimals24d ago

It's a win lose no matter what MS does. If they managed to support the XBO throughout its life, people would be fine with MS dropping XBO support as they'd be satisfied with the game offerings with many pleasant memories of the gen. Too late for that. Now they gotta continue supporting the XBO cause people haven't gotten their money's worth. This leads to XSX adopters not getting their money's worth cause all of their exclusives aren't doing anything impossible on last-gen hardware for atleast 2 years.

Christopher24d ago

Proving the author's words right off the bat.

CaptainHenry91624d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Don't forget you can still play Halo Infinite on Xbox One S 😁

24d ago
ForwardDude24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

The graphics won't be held back just like PC never is, but the question was if the GAMES will be held back. Since Xbox Series X games that are not exclusives won't be able to have parts that can ONLY be played on Series X, GAMEPLAY not graphics will be held back on Series X.

TheTony31624d ago

RgR

It goes both ways. Paying 500 - 600 dollars for a brand new console and still getting games that are built around 10 year old hardware is anti consumer too.

NeoGamer23224d ago

Really... At the end of the day there is a really simple solution.

Microsoft is not requiring developers to support Xbox One, So, the developer can just release their game as only XSX.

Problem Solved. If it is really a problem.

TheSaint24d ago

Still a fanboy then.

Will you ever grow up?

Spenok23d ago

Phil did actually say something very similar to generational games are anti consumer. He said, "Generational exclusives are completely counter to what games are all about."

So yeah, people are being lead to believe they're bad by him.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

+ Show (16) more repliesLast reply 23d ago
25d ago Replies(3)
RazzerRedux25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

"Held back is a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition"

Uh....you can create all kinds of meme from those "who are too caught up in device competition". And a lot of them would come from Aaron Greenberg and Jason Ronald. Spencer needs to wag his finger at his own people before starts preaching to those who don't work for him.

And didn't the Ori dev pretty much say that SSD would be held back by the "lowest common denominator" which would be HDD? He said Sony first party would be able to "go crazy" but others would be limited. I get what Spencer is saying about Windows being an example with scalable GPU/CPU/etc, but this is different territory where game design is truly affected by the hardware in play.

"Or to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about."

Temporarily though, right? That commitment has an expiration date. And frankly, "force someone to buy" is just as much a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition as anything else.

Obscure_Observer25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

"And a lot of them would come from Aaron Greenberg and Jason Ronald."

Greenberg I would agree, but Jason Ronald? The guy barely speaks. Let me guess: You got "offended" by his variable clocks statements?

"Spencer needs to wag his finger at his own people before starts preaching to those who don't work for him."

He´s responding specifically to those spreading FUD and misinformation about SX´s games been held back, which as a future SX owner, I find awesome and reassuring. Can´t see any issues with that.

"And didn't the Ori dev pretty much say that SSD would be held back by the "lowest common denominator" which would be HDD?"

No. People said that SX´s games would be held back by Xbox One´s Jaguar cores. Even John Linneman (on his personal twitter account) from DF said that.

https://twitter.com/dark1x/...

"And didn't the Ori dev pretty much say that SSD would be held back by the "lowest common denominator" which would be HDD?"

How? Like Flight Simulator? S/

I already told you that, why you insist in a subject already debunked? Smh.

Microsoft Flight Simulator minimum specs
CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 / Intel i5-4460
GPU: Radeon RX 570 / NVIDIA GTX 770
VRAM: 2GB
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 150GB
Bandwidth: 5 Mbps

Microsoft Flight Simulator recommended specs
CPU: Ryzen 5 1500X / Intel i5-8400
GPU: Radeon RX 590 / Nvidia GTX 970
VRAM: 4GB
RAM: 16GB
HDD: 150GB
Bandwidth: 20 Mbps

Microsoft Flight Simulator ideal specs
CPU: Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X / Intel i7-9800X
GPU: Radeon VII / Nvidia RTX 2080
VRAM: 8GB
RAM: 32GB
HDD: 150GB (SSD RECOMMENDED)
Bandwidth: 50 Mbps

RazzerRedux25d ago

"Greenberg I would agree, but Jason Ronald? The guy barely speaks. Let me guess: You got "offended" by his variable clocks statements?"

Barely speaks? He has been front and center on a regular basis this past year. And no idea why you think I was "offended" by his remarks on variable clocks, but if you can't see the "device competition" aspects of those statements then you are just being delusional.

"I find awesome and reassuring."

lol...of course you do. On their own, those statements are fine. But he is on a soapbox preaching a sermon his own team doesn't practice.

"No. People said that SX´s games would be held back by Xbox One´s Jaguar cores. Even John Linneman (on his personal twitter account) from DF said that."

That has nothing to do with what I said about the Ori dev's comments. His words:

"“The super-fast PS5 SSD is nice for first party, but it won't make any economical sense to heavily adjust your games to suit one particular platform. On PCs and the Xbox, you'll have to work with what's there. So it's 2 platforms against 1. "

https://wccftech.com/ori-de...

"How? Like Flight Simulator? S/

I already told you that, why you insist in a subject already debunked? Smh."

lol....bullshit. You debunked nothing. FS is not a game that is being designed around the SSD. Why you believe a game recommending SSD negates the statements made by the Ori dev.....no idea.

Obscure_Observer24d ago

@RazzerRedux

"Barely speaks? He has been front and center on a regular basis this past year."

Where? You put Greenberg (full of S*) and in the same sentence whitout facts to back it up. I mean, why Ronald is full of S*?

"But he is on a soapbox preaching a sermon his own team doesn't practice."

You´re trying to make something out of nothing. He´s ANSWERING a question. All this time that he could made a statement on twitter about this games held back bs and he didn´t. And here you´re trying to paint him on a bad light by hold him accountable for every single bs his team might or not say? Smh.

"You debunked nothing. FS is not a game that is being designed around the SSD. Why you believe a game recommending SSD negates the statements made by the Ori dev.....no idea."

Because if a game needs to "being designed around the SSD" to not be considered "held back" on next gen according to your logic, Sony pretty much lied to everyone, since the only games "designed around the SSD" are Ratchet & Clank and SX´s The Medium.

My question to you is: Which is it? Choose you poison.

RazzerRedux24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

"Where? You put Greenberg (full of S*) and in the same sentence whitout facts to back it up. I mean, why Ronald is full of S*?"

lol....I didn't say either were "full of shit" at all, now did I? I said they engage in these conversations of "device competition". You provided the example from Ronald right off the bat as you knew exactly what I was talking about. So you provided the facts yourself.

"And here you´re trying to paint him on a bad light by hold him accountable for every single bs his team might or not say? Smh."

No, I am calling him out for wagging his finger at others for doing the exact same thing his own team does. I've made that explicitly clear. You are just doing a twister dance trying to defend your hero.

"Because if a game needs to "being designed around the SSD" to not be considered "held back" on next gen according to your logic, Sony pretty much lied to everyone, since the only games "designed around the SSD" are Ratchet & Clank and SX´s The Medium."

Not according to my logic at all. Are you even reading? I referenced and quoted the Ori dev multiple times. If you disagree with him then fine. How the hell does the words from an Ori dev turn Sony into liars? You are just babbling nonsense.

Obscure_Observer24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

@RazzerRedux

"No, I am calling him out for wagging his finger at others for doing the exact same thing his own team does."

Yeah, making something out of nothing since nothing he said warranted such response from you. And it´s not because he´s my "hero". That´s because you hate the guy. Your history confirms that. You always called him a liar. You never made such criticisms towards Sony´s execs not matter how blatant the lies and deceit are.

"I said they engage in these conversations of "device competition". You provided the example from Ronald right off the bat as you knew exactly what I was talking about. So you provided the facts yourself."

So you got offended, hu? Same thing Cerny did while downplaying Tlops numbers and I hadn´t see you complain. Both will talking up their machines while downplaying the competition a bit. That´s just business as usual. Nothing sort of put Jason on the same paragraph as Greenberg and you know that

"How the hell does the words from an Ori dev turn Sony into liars? You are just babbling nonsense."

Forget the Ori dev. I´m questioning YOU. I said FS was not held back by HDD since max settings requires SSD. YOU said FS is not an exemple because it weren´t build around SSD. Now, 95% of Sony´s games showcased on PS5 event weren´t build around SSD. So I gonna ask you: How almost all Sony´s PS5 games showcased can possible be true next gen games when Flight Simulator is not? Is Flight Simulator a next gen game or Sony lied about their own true next gen games? Is that clear enough for you? Good. Choose you poison.

RazzerRedux24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

"Yeah, making something out of nothing since nothing he said warranted such response from you. And it´s not because he´s my "hero". That´s because you hate the guy. Your history confirms that. You always called him a liar. You never made such criticisms towards Sony´s execs not matter how blatant the lies and deceit are."

Hate the guy? Called him a liar? Bullshit. I have always had generally good things to say about Phil Spencer. I don't always agree with him, but have I ever expressed hate? Never. Have I ever called him a "liar". No.

Couple of examples of me congratulating Phil Spencer and defending him:
"Nice! Congrats Phil!"
"He wasn't in charge of Xbox then. He wasn't in the place to "allow" anything. He took his marching orders from Don Mattrick."
https://n4g.com/news/235223...

So much "hate". You need stop making shit up.

"So you got offended, hu? Same thing Cerny did while downplaying Tlops numbers and I hadn´t see you complain. Both will talking up their machines while downplaying the competition a bit. That´s just business as usual. Nothing sort of put Jason on the same paragraph as Greenberg and you know that"

Nonsense. I never complained about Spencer and company calling XSX the most powerful console either. That too is part of this "device competition" dialogue. The problem I have is Spencer is the one complaining about this "device competition" when it is convienient. Why you can't grasp this...again, no idea.

"Forget the Ori dev. I´m questioning YOU. I said FS was not held back by HDD since max settings requires SSD."

Wrong. FS recommends SSD at max settings. It isn't required. Not that it matters. You are trying to contrive a point out of thin air and failing horribly.

"YOU said FS is not an exemple because it weren´t build around SSD. Now, 95% of Sony´s games showcased on PS5 event weren´t build around SSD. So I gonna ask you: How almost all Sony´s PS5 games showcased can possible be true next gen games when Flight Simulator is not? Is Flight Simulator a next gen game or Sony lied about their own true next gen games? Is that clear enough for you? Good. Choose you poison."

More bullshit you made up. I never equated games "built around SSD" with "true next gen games" at all. Hilarious that you say "forget the Ori dev".
You are writing some bullshit fictinal narrative of all kinds of shit I never even implied just so you can ignore the only point I made at all and try and transport goal posts elsehwere.

What the f*ck is wrong with you?

Obscure_Observer24d ago

@RazzerRedux

"What the f*ck is wrong with you?"

Nothing wrong with me (as far I can tell) it´s just gaming discussion as usuall

1Victor24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

And a lot of them would come from Aaron Greenberg and Jason Ronald."

Greenberg I would agree, but Jason Ronald? The guy barely speaks. Let me guess: You got "offended" by his variable clocks statements?

"Spencer needs to wag his finger at his own people before starts preaching to those who don't work for him."

He´s responding specifically to those spreading FUD and misinformation about SX´s games been held back, which as a future SX owner, I find awesome and reassuring. Can´t see any issues with that.

"And didn't the Ori dev pretty much say that SSD would be held back by the "lowest common denominator" which would be HDD?"

No. People said that SX´s games would be held back by Xbox One´s Jaguar cores. Even John Linneman (on his personal twitter account) from DF said that.

https://twitter.com/dark1x/...

"And didn't the Ori dev pretty much say that SSD would be held back by the "lowest common denominator" which would be HDD?"

How? Like Flight Simulator? S/

I already told you that, why you insist in a subject already debunked? Smh.

Microsoft Flight Simulator minimum specs
CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 / Intel i5-4460
GPU: Radeon RX 570 / NVIDIA GTX 770
VRAM: 2GB
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 150GB
Bandwidth: 5 Mbps

Microsoft Flight Simulator recommended specs
CPU: Ryzen 5 1500X / Intel i5-8400
GPU: Radeon RX 590 / Nvidia GTX 970
VRAM: 4GB
RAM: 16GB
HDD: 150GB
Bandwidth: 20 Mbps

Microsoft Flight Simulator ideal specs
CPU: Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X / Intel i7-9800X
GPU: Radeon VII / Nvidia RTX 2080
VRAM: 8GB
RAM: 32GB
HDD: 150GB (SSD RECOMMENDED)
Bandwidth: 50 Mbps
👆👆👆
🤦🏿 🤣🤷🏿‍♂️ 🤣 😂 🤣🤷🏿 🤫 🤣 😂 comedy gold

RazzerRedux24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

"Nothing wrong with me (as far I can tell)"

Nah dude. You are just wrong. Period.

+ Show (5) more repliesLast reply 24d ago
morganfell25d ago

He seems to forget his company, responding to USNavy personnel stated we make a console for people that can’t connect to the internet every 24 hours, it’s called the Xbox 360.

Imortus_san24d ago

Sony said you should have to Jobs to buy the PS3.

morganfell24d ago

"Sony said you should have to Jobs to buy the PS3."

No that isn't what Ken Kutaragi said. Your comprehension score?

Solid F.

What he stated was :

"for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

Kutaragi was saying that Sony wanted people to be so enamored of the PS3, to want one so badly that they would work more hours to get one. Why do people misunderstand this? He isn't saying if you want one get a job. He is stating that Sony's plan for the PS3 was for it to be so wanted, so desired you would do anything to get one including work more hours if you needed to do so in order to buy one. It isn't James Joyce. Its a statement about how Sony wanted the PS3 to be perceived by the public, that you would want one more than anything and would go to any lengths to get one.

ziggurcat24d ago

"Sony said you should have to Jobs to buy the PS3"

Nope. They never said that.

Ausbo24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

You seem to forget that the person who said that was fired almost immediately after and everything that person did was reversed within a year.

He regularly has talked about the mistakes they made at launch

morganfell24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Duplicate

morganfell24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I have not forgotten anything. He was part of that system and he said and did nothing. Of all the leaders of gaming hardware companies no one has blown more smoke than this guy. From the X1X (I own one) to cloud power. None of his followers in the church and Phil have held him accountable. He says something, they take a toke and automatically believe him. The worst part is his own people or some of the biggest offenders. Greenberg is a classic example and he’s done nothing to reign that clown and his constant smack talking. It makes his remarks in that article pure hypocrisy

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 24d ago
25d ago Replies(2)
Hakuoro25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Yea sure, enjoy your elevator rides to make the games compatible with HDD. And AI physics and simulations that are limited by the Jaguar CPU.

Charal24d ago

Keep believing blindly.
With Spencer reasoning, you can play Witcher 3 on Atari ST by putting the sliders low enough.

That is simply not true, at some point of a time tech progresses allow for breakthrough not portable on older tech.

Are we at this point between One X and SX ? I believe yes.
If not, that means that all R&D spent by MS and Sony to solve bottlenecks on their next platforms was not needed as nothing was held back by current gen architectures.

Hakuoro24d ago

There is a reason why PC has minimum specs.

Games1st24d ago

keep ignoring facts.