The Last of Us Part 2 review: The good, bad and ugly - IOL

IOL- “Personally, I would not give the game a second playthrough after my roughly 20 hour playtime. There also is no inclusion of any multiplayer modes. Overall, the game is good. However, I cannot look past the extremely poor narrative choices. A good writer leads the audience’s thoughts, not force them to wallow in his catharsis. This game could have easily been a 10/10 for me, but being a purely story driven game my final score will have to be a 6.5/10.”

[seanpitt23]

Good review but this guy must of not played it because he didn’t give it a 10/10 and didn’t like it..
I didn’t wait 7 years for the last of us sequel, I waited 7 years for Joel Just to see him get done dirty like that just for a revenge plot and to play as the killer is a total F#ck you to the fans but hey all males have to get killed now in Neil Druckmann games and women have to be superior to males that’s his jam

[TGGJustin]

That isn't what this game is about at all. Also we knew from the time this game was announced that we wouldn't be playing as Joel. They don't have to make their story the way that you and the other whiny babies on the internet think they have to.

[PrinceAli]

EXACTLY! loool

[TheEnigma313]

I’m so tired of people on the internet crying because the game didn’t go their way. Like we get it you don’t like it now move on.

[gamer7804]

While true they also lied and said Ellie was the only playable character.

[RgR]

Everyone is aware that the story doesn't have to be according to the fans preference and that they should do as they please.

But that doesn't mean that the story they decided on is good. Freedom to create what you want comes with the freedom to dislike it.

I'm liking it thus far.

[TGGJustin]

@gamer7804 and? I don't blame them as they didn't want certain things about their game to be spoiled. I applaud them for it. Too many times I got into a game feeling like I already know everything about it. It's nice to see twists that I didn't see coming.

[mandingo]

You are right they don’t have to make it the way the fans want it. But that’s why it was bad

[Matpan]

It's a Review... it will have a lot of personal opinion attached to it. He is pretty clear about his thoughts, the game could have been a ten but given that he believes the story elements were poor choices in his view, he is bringing the score down. You complain about people being whinny babies because their views don't adjust to yours? talk about whining...

So long as the opinions are not tainted by bigoted point of views regarding the sexuality of the characters or the expected portrayal of the female physique I am fine with mixed opinions and feelings about the game. In a world with millions of players you are gonna have to deal with people that love it, people that hate it, and people that find it so so. Their experience of it should not taint yours, otherwise, you are having an issue...

[PrinceAli]

People like you are such weirdos! loool

[Redemption-64]

hey all males have to get killed now in Neil Druckmann games and women have to be superior to males that’s his jam.

You are one sad person. Please seek some help. Also, when did the game even imply that? Or are those just your insecurities showing? Also did you have a problem when Ellie as a 12 year old kid, was killing infected and fully grown men? Does it really hurt you that much, seeing a female video game character take out men? Please tell me you are not thin skinned?

F#ck you to the fans

Says who? You? Just because things did not go the way you want it, does not make it bad or equate to fuck your so called fans. The writers know more about all their own characters than so called fans do. You and others didn't like it, that is ok, move on. An equal amount, if not more, like/loved it.

[S2Killinit]

I think their movement is called “incel”. There was a piece on them on NPR, which was very informative and kind of scary actually. But, I think it comes from disillusioned males who feel like the world has left them behind and they need to find an excuse for their perceived failures. In order to feel less bad about their failures, they look outside to blame someone else (sort of along the lines of people who blame lizard people for ruling the world). In this case, the blame falls on women, and a system that to the incel individual, feels like it favors females because they get to chose the males that get to have sex with them. Its a problem and a sickness. But, it deserves mention that a small portion of what they base their argument on, has some truth to it, which makes some suffering young males sympathetic to their plight. I personally blame our educational system and the failure of leaving kids behind with no one to catch them if they cant compete.

[S2Killinit]

Not sure why people disagreed with facts. But no responses.

[outsider1624]

Let's be honest here. We didn't know after the game there was gonna be a sequel anyway. iirc everyone thought the ndig was perfect.

It was in 2016 that they reveal it so basically you only waited like 4 years.

Anyway why are you so uptight anyway. Just sell the game and move on. I don't know how whining can bring back Joel from the dead anyway.

[KyRo]

Oh no, look at you. Youre going to throw your toys out of your pram because YOU didn't like a game someone else wrote and created... Do you know how backwards you sound right now?

I'm glad Neil said if he would make TLoU2 again, he'd do exactly the same thing.

It was shocking what happened to Joel but more props to them for having the balls to kill off such a beloved character. So many games, TV shows and films could learn from this.

[S2Killinit]

What? A bit of a exaggeration there buddy. I mean I know we no longer need to stick to reality and all, but lets not lose all pretense of sanity either.

[Petebloodyonion]

Your comments are sad man.
the game isn't about gender vs gender since basically Ellie's quest for revenge is on another girl.
You kill also a lot of women in your quest for revenge.

[capjacksparrow]

TLoU Part 1 is still my favorite game of all time. I haven’t played a game I’ve liked more since 2013 (and I’ve played a lot), and yet I also loved Part II. I play Naughty Dog’s stories, and while they may not go the way I want, I appreciate their character work and everything that they do.

[SonyStyled]

ND literally said since the initial reveal that this is Ellie’s revenge story, and that you won’t be playing as Joel as the main character. If you didn’t believe the developers word, it is you that set yourself up for disappointment from the start. If you wanted to play as Joel through the games duration, you should have found something else to play. ND was very clear that he would not be the main character. I can understand maybe you waited 4 yrs to play as Joel, but you’ve had 3 years of understanding that Part 2 is not his journey or his story, or have been living under a rock and purchased Part 2 blindly

[seanpitt23]

No I knew it was Ellies story and I had to control Ellie but I thought Joel would be there at least half of the game. You had tv trailers Joel saying “do you think I will let you do this on your own” thinking they would go on missions together bond more together etc... Total lies

I mean what’s the chances Joel bumping into Abby at the precise moment in time to save abbys life then trust her entirely after 5 minutes of knowing her I mean I wouldn’t do that and I have not survived 24 years in a apocalyptic world. They needed to get this trash story moving and this is the best they could of come up with.

[rainslacker]

Yeah, convienant narrative plot devices were completely absent from the first game. Not like any close call ended up with someone showing up st the last minute. If this game hadn't of been spoiled, I'd probably assume the same would happen here, and be more shocked when it didnt.

So....thanks for that internet.

I'm reminded of ned stark's death in GoT. It had a lot of people unfamiliar with the book upset after that episode. But, after that, it put an air of nothing being safe. While that level of depth wasnt necessary for this game, it does illustrate that death of a main character doesnt have to be a bad thing for narrative purposes.

As far as joel bumping into abby. I'd say the chances are pretty high. 1. He was on patrol for infected, and Abby was looking for him. 2. The series is well known for people bumping into others at just the right time. They could have protracted that out I suppose, but the game already had pacing issues, and I dont see the point of pursuing abby's revenge quest, just to follow it up with ellie's, just to follow that up with abby's redemption quest. Sometimes narrative convienance has it's own purpose that isnt about being lazy

[mandingo]

Truth

[Knushwood Butt]

Did you cry when Kylo Ren killed Han Solo?

[seanpitt23]

Not a Star Wars fan never watched the films

[_dangerclose_]

Why were you waiting seven years for Joel? Why would anyone wait seven years for one character in a video game? Perhaps if you had just waited seven years for ND to make a fantastic game like any normal person you wouldn't have anything to complain about.

[Obelisk92]

Are you guys still around? Damn. There's more to life than this, you know?

[sonarus]

I don't know how you derived at that conclusion playing the game. I just finished the game myself. I don't feel like all males had to get killed after all Tommy made it alive. I think the message was the eye for an eye thing with everyone blind but there were literally only 3 women in the game that survived.

I thought the LGBT thing was tastefully done. Better than in most mediums even it certainly didn't feel like just a random throw in to appease lgbt community like it almost always feels

My two main gripes with the game was the length (I'm older now don't have time to play more than an hr or two max a day) and the lack of closure for the ending particularly for Ellie story.

Joel's death was necessary to facilitate the game he didn't have to die the way he did but it was necessary to make you hate the other group. You are supposed to feel hatred for Abby when you play as her. Abby however redeemed herself helping the seraphite kids.

For me may not be a perfect game but certainly not worthy of the endless bashing. The story deserves a lot more than a 4 in my opinion and I haven't played a game with better graphics on ps4 but I don't game as much as I used to. Hating on the game for LGBTQ stuff is childish imo but whatever

[shammgod]

20 hour playtime?

[ziggurcat]

it's longer than that.

[RgR]

Not if you play on easy. I can imagine encounters taking a lot less time when playing on easier modes. The loop is essentially walking with story bits from point a to b and then face encounter. That in itself doesn't take long at all. Not to mention you can skip encounters by rushing through.

[Deathdeliverer]

25-30

[Sunny12345]

Lol thats what I was thinking. Probably skipped cutscenes and didn't explore at all. Rushed through and then giving a broken ass review. No thank you.

[King_Noctis]

https://www.youtube.com/pla...

That is the author's entire playthrough of the game. Watch it and you'll see if they had skipped anything.

[Sunny12345]

@noctis Watched 1st episode, he calls movement clunky, then has a problem with invisible walls. Not to mention, he didn't even pick up a single collectible not on the main path. So yeah, I'm not gonna watch the rest off some half-ass attempt of a person who has preconceived notions about the game, plus the voice is really annoying.

[VariantAEC]

@Sunny12345
So Noctis gives you a link to the playlist you watch the slowest part of a 35+ part walkthrough and think this is the final word the guy has on the game... And you think his review process is broken?
Just WOW!
I mean had you just skipped to the part where you know the game picks up (since you played it, right) you would've caught the bits where he said he likes the combat and enjoys the faster less cluncky moveset of Abby/Ellie when the game gives you full control.
He said the gameplay in his personal opinion was good.

He did complete the game and he reviewed it.
He assesed the game on the narrative primarily which makes sense considering that IT'S A STORY-DRIVEN GAME and he mentioned that there's no reason to play it over and over and over which is perfectly valid and pretty accurate especially if you didn't enjoy the narrative which was riddled with plotholes and contrivances to move the story forward even without making much sense.

How about you do as you say and make some valid points about a review before mouthing off like an insolent child, hmm?
Oh is that too hard for you or is it more ok to rant like a child about an opinion someone else has about something you like?

[notachance]

my dude you sound just like the game's haters, but to the reviewer instead lmao
goes to prove both sides are a joke

[Sunny12345]

@Variant. I have watched more than 50 reviews of the game, I don't need to watch the full gameplay of a youtuber who doesn't even have 100 subscribers. The views on his channel shows how much people appreciate his content and how much he understands/knows about/ plays quality games. He ain't a credible source for a review.
What plot holes are you talking about? I actually did complete the game, may be you should too. Or are the controversies too much for you to handle? I respect the opinions of credible sources even if its negative. But when a person is way off base I call him on how it is. There is a reason this game has a 94 meta. So when someone gives its a 65 there is obviously some problem with that person. So how about instead of calling me insolent you open your ears and eyes and stop being a fan boy of the reviewer(which he ain't)

[Bathyj]

Took me 40 on hard

[SpinalRemains138]

Same here. On hard and broke every single car window and explored as much as I could. 20 hours is like a sprint thru the game.

[rainslacker]

Maybe if you rush through it and play on easy, since you would want to farm resources for even a normal mode...because on normal, if you arent farming for resources, it means your using stealth, which would take longer than 20 hours.

My 2nd play through was about 18 hours on hard. Lots of stealth, but also a lot of upgrades and remembering the best way to stealth areas.

[Imortus_san]

https://howlongtobeat.com/g...

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

Not a fan of this game are you king Noctis?

[King_Noctis]

I did not write the reviews if that's what you are saying.

[STARS]

Your agenda is clear as day with your submissions. You're not fooling anyone, and it's really pathetic at this point. Funny how we don't see you in any of the many top-rated reviews or see you submitting any of those. You're trying way too hard, no amount of FUD you spread will hold this game down or take away from what it's already accomplished.

[King_Noctis]

“ Your agenda is clear as day with your submissions.“

So I can’t submit reviews like this? Or you mean N4G should only allow reviews that people like you want to see? If you have a problem with the articles that I submit, why don’t you just report the article? Or contact one of the mods to take the article down? But be sure to state the reasons as to why you want it taken down.

“ Funny how we don't see you in any of the many top-rated reviews or see you submitting any of those.”

I haven’t seen any top reviews that haven’t been submitted yet.

“ You're trying way too hard, no amount of FUD you spread will hold this game down or take away from what it's already accomplished.”

I only submit the reviews and news dude. But you know what? Sometimes seeing people like you throwing a fit over things like this just make me laugh and make all these submissions worth it at the end.

[Knushwood Butt]

I was looking forward to your Deadly Premonition 2 review.

[STARS]

@King_Noctis

You can defend yourself all you want, that's fine. Just don't think I'm daft enough to not see through your bullshit. And I've already played through the game on Survivor and enjoyed the hell out of it, so don't put yourself on some pedestal like you hampered my enjoyment somehow. Just calling you out on your garbage rhetoric, kid.

[King_Noctis]

“ I was looking forward to your Deadly Premonition 2 review.”

That game receives low score everywhere though. Now what you should be saying is: “ I was looking forward to your Paper Mario and Ghost of Tsushima review submission.”

“And I've already played through the game on Survivor and enjoyed the hell out of it, don't put yourself on some pedestal like you hampered my enjoyment somehow. ”

Good that you are enjoying the game, don’t let other people tell you otherwise. But I wonder, how do I hampered any of your enjoyment of the game exactly?

[Knushwood Butt]

'That game receives low score everywhere though.'.

Right, which would save you from having to cherry pick the low scoring ones!

[_dangerclose_]

He did the same thing with the negative Days Gone reviews.

[tagzskie]

Looking forward to xbox and nintendos popular tittle to be always submitted negatively by this person. Im ok if he do it fairly to all platforms but it looks like he have hate for ps exclusive for some reason.

[King_Noctis]

Again, should only positive reviews be submitted on this site?

[tagzskie]

@kingnoctis Again nope! at least be credible that youre neutral. Do it at xbox and nintendo heavy hitters exclusive too. Show me that you can bring down the game coming from nintendo and MS the same passion you show here. Or maybe the others didnt have heavy hitters lately so you focus on ps exclusive? Anyway good luck with your fight. peace

[Ricegum]

"This game could have easily been a 10/10 for me, but being a purely story driven game my final score will have to be a 6.5/10."

What an exceptionally unprofessional bit of writing I've seen from a reviewer. Are these guys for real?

[morganfell]

How is this review any more unprofessional than the ones that gave it 10/10? I am not saying the review is good. Quite the opposite. I am saying reviews that lack objectivity, fail to list definitive and thorough enforced standards, remove to the greatest degree possible personal wants, desires, and dislikes are all equally worthless. And this is regardless of the score they gave a game you liked, hated, or about which you were ambivalent. That covers practically all reviews because reviews are generally without even a modicum of value and their scores meaningless. The real enemy of gamers or game isn't review bombers at metacritic. Rather it is self appointed members of the press whom we have allowed to hold sway over and damage our hobby willy nilly.

[stuna1]

I agree with but, I also take offense to the objectivity of the reviewer. Of course he can have an opinionated view as to what he thinks should be a good game by his standards. The thing is I don't think he did so a professional or even industry wide standard. Looking at the faults with the game he had, his critique didn't match his score!? Unless he was taking off full points because of the exclusion of a component that he thinks should have been included, but yet was never verified to even be included.

[morganfell]

@stuna1,

For them objectivity is an obstacle. Their personal feelings trump neutrality. Writers these days review the game for themselves. What they like. What they hate. As if they are celebrities and their personal wants and desires matter. They do not. They are supposed to review the game not for themselves but rather for the target demographic. They are incapable of supplanting their own likes with those of the general gaming public and how the title would be received by the larger audience. How most people would feel replaced by a single individual that deems their self most important.

They also employ zero standards because written standards = a form of accountability and they do not want to operate with such restrictions but rather be free to like or hate as they want depending on which side of the bed the got up on the particular day they wrote the review.

[rainslacker]

Hes down rating it for what he wants it to be. Not what it is meant to be. If he wanted MP, then this isn't the game to buy. The devs were upfront the MP wasnt being shipped with the game.

That is unprofessional.

It would be like me raring a FPS game down by a couple points because it's not a TPS game. Makes no sense to do such a thing.

[gamer7804]

He means that the most important part of this game is the story, and if he didn’t like the story why wouldn’t he rate the game pretty low.

[VariantAEC]

@gamer7804
On point man, you get it.
What I can't understand is how no one else gets it?
The gameplay might be fine or even decent but I wouldn't call it excellent and seeing as how Naughty Dog has been making them like this for the past 8 or so years I can't believe it needs to be said but nothing here is groundbreaking or original.
The gameplay of Uncharted never kept me coming back for more. I didn't play it much if at all after beating it the first time. I did return to The Last of Us and Uncharted 1 when they were remastered for PS4 however.
1080p60 is nice and all, but it wasn't enough to get me to stick it through U2/3 a second time around. The gameplay just isn't enough on its own for me. It wasn't enough for this reviewer either and he made that known... But according to most around these parts HE IS WRONG BECAUSE REASONS!
They whine and carry on in the same way that the people they're actively complaining about are whining and carrying on.

But what do we expect at this point.
This isn't endemic to N4G either many comments sections are like this all over the world irrespective of language even.

[VerminSC]

Exactly. They are basically saying the story is 40% of what makes the game. That is just so narrow minded. the game has so many parts and plot is just one of them. It’s a reviewers responsibility to a knowledge a games story/acting/emotional impact even if it doesn’t personally click for them.

[RgR]

Story/acting/emotional impact is all derived from the story...that's all one part of the game not separate parts.

There's gameplay, story , sound, music.

[Knushwood Butt]

Story driven games are now judged on story alone. This is the new normal.

Shame this only came into effect recently, as nobody would have had an issue with Death Stranding's parcel delivery gameplay coz DA STORY IS EVERYTHING!

[notachance]

10 seconds google search would give you tons of dislike against death stranding... both from professional and fans

remove the delusion glasses please

[Knushwood Butt]

Death Stranding could have easily been a 6.5/10 for me, but being a purely story driven game my final score will have to be a 10/10.

[OB1Biker]

What is the reason why TLOU part I is widely accepted as one of the best games ever?
Tell us...

[gamer7804]

Story comes first in games like this. If you hate the story gameplay and graphics aren’t going to save it by any large margin.

[Poopmist]

Letting the player choose and having a branching story would've been much better.

[Bathyj]

I've heard that said and I don't agree with it because everyone would have just let Joel live and killed Abby. That's not what the writers wanted. And it wouldn't have worked as well either. You either accept the story or you don't if you want to choose how the story goes, write one.

[goldwyncq]

That completely misses the point of the story. This isn’t some branching story where you roleplay as Ellie and could influence her decisions in the narrative. If you want something like that then play a Telltale or a Quantic Dream game.

This isn’t your story, it’s Ellie and Abby’s.

[gamer7804]

Well to be truthful, this is druckman’s story.

[stuna1]

The article site name should be LoL! Because that's what I'm doing right now. People can be so contradictory and transparent that you can look right through their self absorbed interpretation of what good storytelling, writing and direction are.

But oh look who submitted it!

[Deathdeliverer]

Spoilers to the max*****************

The way I see it the game was as based on “realism” as a game can be while still remembering it’s a game.
By realism I mean that things rarely happen in some poetic perfect way OR when it’s convenient for us. When Abby exacts revenge out the blue it’s jarring. Why would she do that? This is exactly where people’s reviews go off course. They instantly mentally check out and cannot get back on track mentally. He killed her only parent and she trained and hunted this man so that when the time came she’d be ready. It’s a woman planning to take on a man. She had to eliminate the potential strength differential as much as possible and she says it in cutscenes and flashbacks. If you’re too busy belly aching you’ll miss it. Some members of her team are put off by it, some are fine with it. Ultimately it come back on her and she loses EVERYTHING. All her friends, her entire old team is after her which is mostly repercussions of her revenge act coming back to haunt her. Now she’s hoping the fireflies are a shadow of themselves from a few years ago.
Same thing for Joel, he murdered anyone that might come after them. At the end of the first game everyone should have know. He was on borrowed time. The way he killed that one black chick before he left? He executed her. Why does he, in turn, deserve a poetic death? Repercussions were coming.
Ellie goes out and exacts revenge as much as possible but along the way she is ALSO losing so much. She has been consumed by revenge and it has its hands on the wheel, forsaking even Tommy at one point. She’s almost like Kratos, she just wants the dreams to stop. She finally catches up and almost lost her new family behind revenge. The dreams don’t stop and she’s given the push she needs to put the last things she has on the line one more time. (Her journal really paints this well) I DO feel like the ending should have been a choice. Nonetheless she realizes Joel wouldn’t want this. The only good vision/memory she has had in a long time. She decides to stop the cycle. She reflects after and realizes how much she lost. In the end, she can go back to Jackson. She could get her family back. Abby has nothing, no matter how deserving you feel she is. Nothing to go back to, only a whole force that wants her dead. The story is a 8 at worst. With how phenomenal everything else (graphics, A.I., detail that effects gameplay) is it’s easy to see why the game gets a 9-10. Seeing reviewers like angry joe walk away when you play as Abby makes his review a joke and I love his reviews. Maybe it was my ability to stay open minded that made it so amazing. Maybe the game just asked too much of the players from a maturity stands point. (Walking away, trying to die, not listening anymore). The game isn’t “fun”. It isn’t a whimsical adventure. It doesn’t have moments of happiness or a comedy relief character. It’s happiest moments are early on, but once it’s in the mud, it’s in the mud. It’s constant hiding, killing, looting, and being ready to kill the next thing. It’s like a horror movie. If they let up and brought in a dancing clown or a ton of uplifting jokes the atmosphere would be lost. This game holds your head in the toilet and let’s you up maybe 3 times for a couple quick gasp of air, then it’s back down and I loved it. It really kept me in the world. In the story.

[SurvivorGirl]

I agree completely ! Oh and this reviewers comments and opinions do NOT make him a troll just like mine don't make me a troll !

[Einhander1971]

Amazing game, 6.5 is an insult to this master piece. Everything about this game oozes sheer quality.

[masterfox]

6.5 !!??

https://media2.giphy.com/me...

Watch out ND and Sony is coming for you!! :D

[Vx_]

I don’t think they really care for a no name site lol, plus they already covered the cost and more from this game.

[SpartanYalo]

This is what happens when you only have 112 subscribers and need some attention coming to your channel.

[Bathyj]

It just jumped massively to 120

[anast]

Another failed review. It clams it's purely a story driven game but only dedicates some watered down paragraphs to the story and offers almost zero practical analysis. Saying, something is "art-house" without defining what "art-house" is, or providing an anecdote, makes the metaphor (if it can even be considered one) completely useless. To top it off, games like Edith Finch and Detroit: Become Human, which are well done, are purely story driven games, yet no comparison is made.

The review is legible and I can feel the writers voice and the thought that the game leads catharsis is an interesting take, but the reviewer does not flesh this idea out, thus leaving it more like a passing comment to fill a space quota. A shame really, this part could have been so much more.

I give the review a 4/10.

[NukeDaHippies]

What gets me is how much one of the most avarage forgettable games ever, is getting headlines.

This game is so far from a 10/10, it makes all of those scores look like obvious liers.

[john of the dead]

Was the first game a 10 to you?

[NukeDaHippies]

It's been so long since now. I can't rightly say it was 10 since after my first play through, i've only rewached the game fully on numerous occasions. I also was never a fan of the intro section of the game.

If i was forced to put a number to it, I'd say 8 or 9 depending on the day. Great game that meant something and influenced many games to follow.

This is shallow and boring. Evil Within 2 is a better sequel to The Last of Us 2.

[Vx_]

He is obviously one of those game viewers not players.. like most haters on the internet. And for that many tubers adhere to their subs.

[SCW1982]

Hard to believe he actually beat this game in 20 hours when it took me 37. I was barely getting into the second act at 20 hours.

[Knushwood Butt]

This.

[Stanjara]

Finally a good review.

[KoroSenpai]

There are other great reviews. Laymen Gaming, AngryJoe, penguinz0, TheCriticalDrinker and pretty much every non-biased reviewers are honest and gave it deserved score. Even most popular gamer pewdiepie and popular streamer xQc gave it 6/10. But for this site, anything other than 10/10 = bigotry

[Stanjara]

Yeah, I'm with those guys.

[PrinterMan]

Good reason for a 6.5? What a joke.

[Ratchet75]

6.5 is what you give to a game with bugs, poor gameplay mechanics, average graphics, poor soundtrack and voice acting.
Regardless of what you think of the story this game is at least an 8/10.

[Bathyj]

Exactly. If I saw this show I would expect a buggy mess that crashed, had screen tearing and was not fun to play. Last of us II is none of that.

[SegaGamer]

6.5 is above average. Maybe people like yourself should stop following IGN's scoring system because it makes zero sense. If 6.5 is what you say it is, then what is the point of all of the 1 to 6 ratings?

1 = About as bad as it gets
2 = Very bad
3 = Bad
4 = Below average
5 = Average
6 = Above average
7 = Good
8 = Very good
9 = Excellent
10 = About as good as it gets

It really isn't hard to understand.

[VariantAEC]

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6.5 <- Game scored here
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Hm... 0-3 is pretty low out of 10.
7-10 is pretty high out of 10.
Where is 6.5 I wonder?
Well higher than 3 and lower than 8, but closer to an 8.

Would I expect a 7 out of 10 game to have crippling bugs? No. But docking that 0.5 points off a 7 would really make that much of a difference to you?

[warriorcase]

"Unfortunately, it seems that the writer has watched too many “arthouse” films. There is now teen drug use, pointless use of excessive violence, forced LGBT references "

" convoluted plot that seems as if it is only for shock-value, and to excite the millenials."

"It doesn’t help that the lead writer’s likeness is actually a character in the game."

"Graphically, it holds up well, however it has not changed much since the original. 8/10"

"Please like and subscribe on YouTube @ Raven5288"

What an odd review, more of a blog post. Teen drug bad guys. The reviewer referring to Alejandro Edda's character, Manny, actually being based of Druckmann tells you he didn't research.
The author appears to be a doctor who did a playthrough on youtube and decided to write a review.

[Knushwood Butt]

This week I watched The Faculty for the first time.

It has teen drug use, pointless use of excessive violence, and forced LGBT references.

Gotta love art-house movies!

[rainslacker]

It tells you he was at least influenced by the internet, since that was a argument against the game for about a day. I'd be surprised if most people, even avid gamers, would recognize druckmann if they saw him. I know I wouldnt, and I've met the man on a couple of occassions.

I'm not really sure how the lead writers likeness means jack squat to the narrative, or would influence the writer in any way. The guy who wrote the music was also in the game. Did he do a shit job too? Game was written long before the character model was ever made, or at the very least the main plot points were made. Plus if it made a difference, the writer probably would have made the character more interesting, and not die in such a pointless way which in no way heroic or meaningful

[Acecalibur]

Finally, this site posts an honest review.

[john of the dead]

Alot of these cry babies would be among the first people killed in a zombie apocalypse

[john of the dead]

Abby did what Negan did to me in the walking dead. At first I was like wow i fucking hate this person, but by the end I like them more than the original Characters.

[NukeDaHippies]

Thats cus the other characters are being so poorly written, you artificially hate them. I wanted Ellie to die by the end, cus i had enough of her nonsensical decisions.

[JayRyu]

I really like the game but after completing it I am a bit higher on the score than this reviewer. 7.0
I was very connected to Joel and Ellie by the end of the first game. Buy the end of part 2 i couldn't fully connect to either Ellie or Abby because of their evolution throughout the game especially at the end.

I get that not having a story end the way you want to can be disappointing but I think the story needed to be written better. So you can come to terms with how it ends. What Joel did at the end of part 1 was messed up, but you can understand why because of journey that the characters faced. The end of part 2 the characters seemed to leave more broken.

[LucidIllusion]

This game has brought out the retardation in humanity.

[Vetalka83]

6.5 is what i'd give it too,or maybe even 6.

[PePe_PL]

For me the most controversial point of review is this sentence: Graphically, it holds up well, however it has not changed much since the original. 8/10. WTF? There may be different opinions on narrative and story, but it is one of the most beautiful games ever created. Saying it didn't change much since original is just BS.

[MartyMcFly88]

"This game could have easily been a 10/10 for me, but being a purely story driven game my final score will have to be a 6.5/10.” This is terrible reviewing/writing. It's seemingly implying that any 'purely story driven game' cannot receive a high score.

"A good writer leads the audience’s thoughts, not force them to wallow in his catharsis." This doesn't even make sense, grammatically or otherwise. Sigh.

[adamtex]

The first game I ever played that hit so much, you cannot fully understand the plot without refreshing your memory after completing the first part. A lot has changed, weapons improvements, a new skill system.