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Microsoft Should Continue To Release Xbox Games On Steam

Xbox games currently are selling extremely well on Steam. If they want to make money at this stage Microsoft Should Continue To Release Xbox Games On Steam

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RamRod881381d ago

I'm sure that is what they plan on doing.

ElementX1381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

Is the writer living under a rock? I thought it was clear that MS wants to give gamers a choice of where they buy games.

https://www.pcgamer.com/mic...

RazzerRedux1381d ago

That's good PR talk, but MS wants to make money by selling their games on Steam. Obviously their own store wasn't cutting it.

RamRod881381d ago

Releasing games on Steam wasn't out of the kindness of their heart. Sales on the Windows Store weren't cutting it.

ElementX1381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

A lot of people I see use Steam only. Devs get a lot of heat for releasing on Epic exclusively. If people don't want to use Epic, why would they want to use windows store? The obvious reason for going to steam is because that's where a lot of gamers shop. I never said they did it out of kindness, everything related to business is about money. People spoke up about Steam support, they want choice. You can look at it however you want to, but MS did give them the option, regardless of the reasoning

Obscure_Observer1381d ago

@RazzerRedux

"Obviously their own store wasn't cutting it."

You don´t know that. The simple fact that Xbox games are selling this well on Steam is just further proof that Xbox games continues to sell despite Gamepass.

Steam is not the only platform MS is looking to expand the Xbox brand. Sony is not stupid and now is following MS steps also looking to expand the Playstation brand.

RazzerRedux1381d ago

@Obscure_Observer

"You don´t know that."

No, but it is fairly obvious. 87% of Steam users have access to the Microsoft store as they are Windows 10 users (according to Steam survey). So the "option" to buy these games have been there all this time. It took MS a while to make the decision to put their games on Steam. Deciding to share 30% of their revenue with Valve couldn't have been an easy decision to make. But better to share 30% revenue of a product that is selling well then have 100% revenue of a product that is selling poorly. It is common sense.

"The simple fact that Xbox games are selling this well on Steam is just further proof that Xbox games continues to sell despite Gamepass."

Actually that points to the irrelevance of Game Pass to Steam gamers more than anything else. The 10 million Game Pass subscribers isn't very much when factored in across Xbox One and the entirety of PC gamers that have access to it. I'd wager the vast majority of GP subscribers are on Xbox One. Probably why GP on PC is still only $5.

"Steam is not the only platform MS is looking to expand the Xbox brand. Sony is not stupid and now is following MS steps also looking to expand the Playstation brand."

And I hope they do. Bottom line, if you want to be successful selling your games on PC, you sell them on Steam.

Obscure_Observer1380d ago (Edited 1380d ago )

@RazzerRedux

"87% of Steam users have access to the Microsoft store as they are Windows 10 users (according to Steam survey). So the "option" to buy these games have been there all this time."

And how exactly you know those people weren´t buying those games on Windows Store all this time and just prefer to have those games on their Steam Library? You know, options. So no, nothing obvious outside of you head.

"Actually that points to the irrelevance of Game Pass to Steam gamers more than anything else. "

According to your logic, Gamepass with more than 10 million users in 3 years is irrelevant to Steam gamers, PS Now is certainly not existent.

"Deciding to share 30% of their revenue with Valve couldn't have been an easy decision to make"

I doubt that was the deal, since Xbox games are not on Epic Store. ;)

"And I hope they do. Bottom line, if you want to be successful selling your games on PC, you sell them on Steam."

Probally right. I though Sony games would be under Epic store exclusivity and I was clearly mistaken.

RazzerRedux1380d ago

"And how exactly you know those people weren´t buying those games on Windows Store all this time and just prefer to have those games on their Steam Library? You know, options. So no, nothing obvious outside of you head."

So all these Steam gamers are buying these games a second time? Doubtful. Maybe a few, but I seriously doubt that is the case for the vast majority especially considering these games have cross play with Steam. What would be the point? But again, if sales were so successful on Microsoft store then MS wouldn't bother putting the games on Steam at all. This is about MS making money on Steam, first and foremost.

"According to your logic, Gamepass with more than 10 million users in 3 years is irrelevant to Steam gamers, PS Now is certainly not existent."

lol....that is pretty much a given.

"I doubt that was the deal, since Xbox games are not on Epic Store. ;)"

So MS made a deal with Valve to keep the games off EGS for a lesser commission rate? Very possible. Like I said, this is more about making money than "options". If MS were truly so interested in giving "options" then their games would be on EGS as well.

rainslacker1380d ago

I don't think people are that uptight about what store they buy on. At least not the masses. But, MS does so little to promote their own store, I think a lot of regular people that don't frequent forums they just don't even know it exists. It has almost no presence on Windows installs, it'd be easy to not even know that its there. Steam spend a couple decades building it's user base. MS is doing the complete opposite of what they would normally do with shoving it's products down your throat on Windows itself.

I used to think that MS store wouldn't do well because gamers were too hell bent on sticking to Steam, but EGS kind of proved that wrong, generally speaking.

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CaptainHenry9161381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

Microsoft is definitely saving me money releasing all their games on PC 🖥 I got to give them that. Definitely not complaining

Looper1381d ago

Nobody believes your pc can run anything other than minesweeper.

timotim1381d ago

Just so you know, I gave you a +1 and I dont think you're lying at all with this story.

King_Noctis1381d ago

“ Nobody believes your pc can run anything other than minesweeper.”

I would take a wild guess and say his PC is capable of running Solitaire as well.

CaptainHenry9161380d ago (Edited 1380d ago )

@Looper @king

Believe what you wanna believe. Do you think I care what yall think? At the end of the day I'm still saving lots of money whether you like it or not. Gotta give them credit for that and I hope they don't change that.

Looper1380d ago

Thank you for your permission. I will continue to believe what I believe.

RazzerRedux1380d ago (Edited 1380d ago )

@Looper @King_Noctis

Ok....I'll just ask. What evidence do you have that suggests CaptainHenry916 doesn't have a gaming PC?

"I will continue to believe what I believe."

lol....is that it? A belief? Yeah...I've seen this bullshit before. Folks like you have this need to believe PC gamers don't actually exist or some such nonsense. What is that all about? Reeks of insecurity, frankly.

ocelot071380d ago

Am in @CaptainHenry916 situation. No need to pay for Xbox live. Gamepass available for £4 a month and most of the time £1 a month. If I didn't have gamepass I would of bought Minecraft dungeons and gears tactics, two point hospital for example. Money I have saved has went into my ps5 and GPU upgrade fund. Am just waiting to see the next wave of Nvidia cards to release and big Navi.

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i3eyond the Circle1381d ago

They are probably going to dial back once Gamepass subs get over 20mil.

Every corporation dials back on their claims when the numbers start to show.

I think if Xbox gets the numbers they’ll start strategically keeping games exclusive to Xbox store for longer windows

AK911381d ago

Yes and so should Epic Games.

timotim1381d ago

Im sure they plan to.

Microsoft has been proving many of the doubters wrong for a while now. They said XGP would see to it that gamers stop purchasing their games, yet Sea of Thieves is the highest selling game on Steam with MCC not too far behind it. This is with XGP also being used on PC with millions of subscribers. Xbox is seeing both sales and subs on PC and Steam is helping with that. Its a smart strategy thats working very well for them.

gigzamillion1381d ago

So it only takes two games doing well on steam for it to be a smart strategy, what about all their other games that are not being purchased? Seems like its proving a lot of people right, if they're buying games then those people most likely aren't paying for gamepass meaning a lot of people out there don't want to throw money away on an never ending money pit subscription service, in reality this actually supports the people would rather pay outright for their games argument.

timotim1380d ago

I simply gave two examples...who said they were the only two though?

My point is that a game can have BOTH strong sales AND strong playerbase through XGP subs due to the many OPTIONS Microsoft provides the gamer. It is a fact that Sea of Thieves is a successful game that gamers have the OPTION of playing through purchase or subscription...that comes down to player choice...they are choosing which one works best for them. Some are buying it outright while other are playing through XGP...either way its adding up to make the game a successful. SoT continues to be one of the most played games REGARDLESS of which platform its on.

The doubters say that due to Game Pass, why would anyone want to buy the game if they can just get it through XGP...well this proves that gamers will CONTINUE to buy games despite subscriptions when given the OPTION because while some are good with subscriptions, others will want to own...crazy I know.

rainslacker1380d ago (Edited 1380d ago )

Think it proves there are more than one market that appeal to different people for different reasons. But it does suggest that a good number of people do indeed prefer their traditional purchase methods....which is understandable.

There are still markets for everything that has supposedly gone all digital. People say that no one buys those things anymore, but they obviously do, because they're still getting made.

What's more interesting here is that a market that is already moved away from digital, is apparently not as into the subscription side of things.

In any case, since no specific numbers have been released about how many PC gamers are using GP on PC, I think any argument about the actual market implications is speculative at best right now, relying heavily on assumption.

To top it off, many people are using initial sales as proof of long term sales success, but no game on Steam relies on such a narrow window of sales to make up it's actual sales.

timotim1380d ago (Edited 1380d ago )

@Gigz
https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...

@Rain
"To top it off, many people are using initial sales as proof of long term sales success, but no game on Steam relies on such a narrow window of sales to make up it's actual sales."

SoT has been out for over TWO YEARS now...its already achieved long term success as a service game with no signs of it slowing down. The fact that it was able to become the best seller on Steam WHILE gamers also having the option to play it through XGP on the platform says it all.

gigzamillion1380d ago

Ok so what are the other examples?

Father__Merrin1381d ago

The windows store is just like a mobile app store. They need a specific game store on the Xbox pc app. But then again I'm against Xbox releasing any games on pc

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They did.
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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

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purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref3d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde3d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19723d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref3d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan3d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref3d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde3d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19723d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier3d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto3d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman3d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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