Xbox games currently are selling extremely well on Steam. If they want to make money at this stage Microsoft Should Continue To Release Xbox Games On Steam
I'm sure that is what they plan on doing.
Is the writer living under a rock? I thought it was clear that MS wants to give gamers a choice of where they buy games. https://www.pcgamer.com/mic...
That's good PR talk, but MS wants to make money by selling their games on Steam. Obviously their own store wasn't cutting it.
Releasing games on Steam wasn't out of the kindness of their heart. Sales on the Windows Store weren't cutting it.
A lot of people I see use Steam only. Devs get a lot of heat for releasing on Epic exclusively. If people don't want to use Epic, why would they want to use windows store? The obvious reason for going to steam is because that's where a lot of gamers shop. I never said they did it out of kindness, everything related to business is about money. People spoke up about Steam support, they want choice. You can look at it however you want to, but MS did give them the option, regardless of the reasoning
@RazzerRedux "Obviously their own store wasn't cutting it." You don´t know that. The simple fact that Xbox games are selling this well on Steam is just further proof that Xbox games continues to sell despite Gamepass. Steam is not the only platform MS is looking to expand the Xbox brand. Sony is not stupid and now is following MS steps also looking to expand the Playstation brand.
@Obscure_Observer "You don´t know that." No, but it is fairly obvious. 87% of Steam users have access to the Microsoft store as they are Windows 10 users (according to Steam survey). So the "option" to buy these games have been there all this time. It took MS a while to make the decision to put their games on Steam. Deciding to share 30% of their revenue with Valve couldn't have been an easy decision to make. But better to share 30% revenue of a product that is selling well then have 100% revenue of a product that is selling poorly. It is common sense. "The simple fact that Xbox games are selling this well on Steam is just further proof that Xbox games continues to sell despite Gamepass." Actually that points to the irrelevance of Game Pass to Steam gamers more than anything else. The 10 million Game Pass subscribers isn't very much when factored in across Xbox One and the entirety of PC gamers that have access to it. I'd wager the vast majority of GP subscribers are on Xbox One. Probably why GP on PC is still only $5. "Steam is not the only platform MS is looking to expand the Xbox brand. Sony is not stupid and now is following MS steps also looking to expand the Playstation brand." And I hope they do. Bottom line, if you want to be successful selling your games on PC, you sell them on Steam.
@RazzerRedux "87% of Steam users have access to the Microsoft store as they are Windows 10 users (according to Steam survey). So the "option" to buy these games have been there all this time." And how exactly you know those people weren´t buying those games on Windows Store all this time and just prefer to have those games on their Steam Library? You know, options. So no, nothing obvious outside of you head. "Actually that points to the irrelevance of Game Pass to Steam gamers more than anything else. " According to your logic, Gamepass with more than 10 million users in 3 years is irrelevant to Steam gamers, PS Now is certainly not existent. "Deciding to share 30% of their revenue with Valve couldn't have been an easy decision to make" I doubt that was the deal, since Xbox games are not on Epic Store. ;) "And I hope they do. Bottom line, if you want to be successful selling your games on PC, you sell them on Steam." Probally right. I though Sony games would be under Epic store exclusivity and I was clearly mistaken.
"And how exactly you know those people weren´t buying those games on Windows Store all this time and just prefer to have those games on their Steam Library? You know, options. So no, nothing obvious outside of you head." So all these Steam gamers are buying these games a second time? Doubtful. Maybe a few, but I seriously doubt that is the case for the vast majority especially considering these games have cross play with Steam. What would be the point? But again, if sales were so successful on Microsoft store then MS wouldn't bother putting the games on Steam at all. This is about MS making money on Steam, first and foremost. "According to your logic, Gamepass with more than 10 million users in 3 years is irrelevant to Steam gamers, PS Now is certainly not existent." lol....that is pretty much a given. "I doubt that was the deal, since Xbox games are not on Epic Store. ;)" So MS made a deal with Valve to keep the games off EGS for a lesser commission rate? Very possible. Like I said, this is more about making money than "options". If MS were truly so interested in giving "options" then their games would be on EGS as well.
I don't think people are that uptight about what store they buy on. At least not the masses. But, MS does so little to promote their own store, I think a lot of regular people that don't frequent forums they just don't even know it exists. It has almost no presence on Windows installs, it'd be easy to not even know that its there. Steam spend a couple decades building it's user base. MS is doing the complete opposite of what they would normally do with shoving it's products down your throat on Windows itself. I used to think that MS store wouldn't do well because gamers were too hell bent on sticking to Steam, but EGS kind of proved that wrong, generally speaking.
Microsoft is definitely saving me money releasing all their games on PC 🖥 I got to give them that. Definitely not complaining
Nobody believes your pc can run anything other than minesweeper.
Just so you know, I gave you a +1 and I dont think you're lying at all with this story.
“ Nobody believes your pc can run anything other than minesweeper.” I would take a wild guess and say his PC is capable of running Solitaire as well.
@Looper @king Believe what you wanna believe. Do you think I care what yall think? At the end of the day I'm still saving lots of money whether you like it or not. Gotta give them credit for that and I hope they don't change that.
Thank you for your permission. I will continue to believe what I believe.
@Looper @King_Noctis Ok....I'll just ask. What evidence do you have that suggests CaptainHenry916 doesn't have a gaming PC? "I will continue to believe what I believe." lol....is that it? A belief? Yeah...I've seen this bullshit before. Folks like you have this need to believe PC gamers don't actually exist or some such nonsense. What is that all about? Reeks of insecurity, frankly.
Am in @CaptainHenry916 situation. No need to pay for Xbox live. Gamepass available for £4 a month and most of the time £1 a month. If I didn't have gamepass I would of bought Minecraft dungeons and gears tactics, two point hospital for example. Money I have saved has went into my ps5 and GPU upgrade fund. Am just waiting to see the next wave of Nvidia cards to release and big Navi.
They are probably going to dial back once Gamepass subs get over 20mil. Every corporation dials back on their claims when the numbers start to show. I think if Xbox gets the numbers they’ll start strategically keeping games exclusive to Xbox store for longer windows
Source: Trust me bro!
Yes and so should Epic Games.
Im sure they plan to. Microsoft has been proving many of the doubters wrong for a while now. They said XGP would see to it that gamers stop purchasing their games, yet Sea of Thieves is the highest selling game on Steam with MCC not too far behind it. This is with XGP also being used on PC with millions of subscribers. Xbox is seeing both sales and subs on PC and Steam is helping with that. Its a smart strategy thats working very well for them.
So it only takes two games doing well on steam for it to be a smart strategy, what about all their other games that are not being purchased? Seems like its proving a lot of people right, if they're buying games then those people most likely aren't paying for gamepass meaning a lot of people out there don't want to throw money away on an never ending money pit subscription service, in reality this actually supports the people would rather pay outright for their games argument.
I simply gave two examples...who said they were the only two though? My point is that a game can have BOTH strong sales AND strong playerbase through XGP subs due to the many OPTIONS Microsoft provides the gamer. It is a fact that Sea of Thieves is a successful game that gamers have the OPTION of playing through purchase or subscription...that comes down to player choice...they are choosing which one works best for them. Some are buying it outright while other are playing through XGP...either way its adding up to make the game a successful. SoT continues to be one of the most played games REGARDLESS of which platform its on. The doubters say that due to Game Pass, why would anyone want to buy the game if they can just get it through XGP...well this proves that gamers will CONTINUE to buy games despite subscriptions when given the OPTION because while some are good with subscriptions, others will want to own...crazy I know.
Think it proves there are more than one market that appeal to different people for different reasons. But it does suggest that a good number of people do indeed prefer their traditional purchase methods....which is understandable. There are still markets for everything that has supposedly gone all digital. People say that no one buys those things anymore, but they obviously do, because they're still getting made. What's more interesting here is that a market that is already moved away from digital, is apparently not as into the subscription side of things. In any case, since no specific numbers have been released about how many PC gamers are using GP on PC, I think any argument about the actual market implications is speculative at best right now, relying heavily on assumption. To top it off, many people are using initial sales as proof of long term sales success, but no game on Steam relies on such a narrow window of sales to make up it's actual sales.
@Gigz https://www.vgchartz.com/ar... @Rain "To top it off, many people are using initial sales as proof of long term sales success, but no game on Steam relies on such a narrow window of sales to make up it's actual sales." SoT has been out for over TWO YEARS now...its already achieved long term success as a service game with no signs of it slowing down. The fact that it was able to become the best seller on Steam WHILE gamers also having the option to play it through XGP on the platform says it all.
Ok so what are the other examples?
The windows store is just like a mobile app store. They need a specific game store on the Xbox pc app. But then again I'm against Xbox releasing any games on pc
If they do then forget the Xbox and go PC.
But then Microsoft would be trying to force all console gamers into PC gamers...why do that when you can make both a console AND PC OS and allow gamers to simply choose how they want to play...oh wait!
Because then they wouldn't have to invest so heavily in the R&D, marketing, and production/distribution of the console. They wouldn't do away with the console so long as they're making enough money there, as it is a rather large revenue stream. But, PC could make them more, but a lot of the money to be made is in the storefronts, where they can take a cut for every game sold, which is basically like what they do on consoles, and how Steam itself has become successful. MS is in the console market for at least another gen. I think people should just accept that, and not worry about speculating about what MS may do in 6-7 years from now when the next gen looms. If things change for them in that time, then they'll do whatever is best for them.
@Rain Get out of Microsoft's pockets buddy haha. They are doing whats best for the CONSUMER here. Not everyone wants to game on PC. If you look at Microsoft's philosophy under Nadella as CEO and Phil as Head of Xbox...its that OPTIONS trump all. Forcing everyone to game on PC in their ecosystem would be just as bad an idea as GFWL was back in the day. PC, consoles, mobile, TVs, physical, digital, streaming...this is where they are going...not trying to force everyone onto PCs haha
Have some exclsives onky for xbox please. Releasing everything on pc why would anyone buy an xbox? For 600usd you can easily get a pc that will match xbox specs
Xbox games currently are selling extremely well on Steam. - thre goes the true that MS games do sell after all.
Should include gamepass on steam.
XGP is a service for a PLATFORM by platform basis, not a individual store by store basis. XGP already exists on the PC platform...
What I mean is give me the option to download for example Halo Infinite on Xbox app or on steam via gamepass.
Though we could see them release later in other stores and have day one releases in their stores. Driving a flux of people to them.
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