This deal is getting worse all the time.
LOL! Micro transactions are like herpes, once you got it, it never goes away!
We really need to voice our opinion in addition to using our wallets as our voice. Every time someone buys microtransactions they're effectively telling the developer "I want more of this, since I'm willing to spend money on it". That's how the developer and publisher interpret it. We really need to stop buying these, even if you really want them, because it just sends the message to the developer to make game progression extremely tedious and boring if you don't spend money on microtransactions. The free to play business model being used in full priced games is a travesty, and idiots keep buying loot boxes and pay-to-win bonuses that ruin the experience for everyone, especially those who don't care to pay to win.
Microtransactions will go away...for a short while. Then after a year or the 1st next gen release of their major IP, companies will start looking at one another out of the corner of their eye wondering who is going to be the one to start the stampede. 1st they will say, its only cosmetics. Then slowly the lumbering season pass awakens. The fact is it takes money to produce games and if you want top quality next gen experiences you are going to have to pay for them. It isn't the money people should have been complaining about but rather the lack of quality to match the money. We are getting the games we deserve because the focus is resolution, framerate (sometimes), number of players, loot, etc. No one rails over the absolutely crappy sound (most of the time) dirt dumb AI, absurd writing, poor level layout, and things such as replayability. The issues that really make a game stand the test of time and become a true classic are not the former but rather the latter. So for me it isn't about the money. Its about getting my money's worth.
You hope so but micro transactions will still happen. I’m afraid games’ prices increases are inevitable due to COVID-19/lockdown. I’m not surprised by that news.
There's absolutely no connection with COVID and lockdown. Stop making excuses for greed. Games have become increasingly more expensive to make in comparison to 30 years ago but gaming is a million times bigger than 30 years ago with more people of all ages to sell products too. Then they have the cheek to add DLC, MTX and battle passes to keep you giving money. People really need to stop defending the price hike.
Stop talking about 30 years ago. Last gen was not any bigger than previous gen. Total console sales went down thanks to X1 being terrible. Price bump was due.
This will never happen. They make more money from Microtransactions than they do game sales.
Microtransactions and loot boxes must go it's a sign of greed and people being idiots buying a new skin for a character or a special gun gun for a character. I don't mind paying for an add on or a DLC to a game but thats as far as I will go. As for the higher price now I gotta wait until a game drops in price or I look for it used or if it's on sale and do some extra homework on a game now before I buy it. I am not paying $90 Canadian new for an over hyped piece of shit that is buggy as hell just to be let down in the game play department.
They won’t, give the industry an inch and they’ll take a mile because they want to have their cake and eat it too.
This is why Sony games are so dear to me. Most if not all that I’m aware of don’t have MTs. Most don’t even have DLC but the ones that do are typically great additions(First Light/The Old Hunters) They still craft GAMES first and foremost, not like ALMOST all other big publishes that chop important content out of their games to sell later as DLC or have never ending loot and cosmetic systems for MTs purposes. Thank you Sony for your GAMES. I’ll continue to do my best of supporting great games with my wallet, the others i refuse to bother with.
After a quick search ... but the original offender was Bethesda, with Oblivion .. the Pc and Xbox 360 being the two platforms guilty of starting this practise with some downloadable horse armour ... 👍
Mechassault and Microsoft predate Oblivion by 3 years https://games.slashdot.org/...
Haha... sure, the people pushing for increased prices won't push for more MTX... hahah I wish I could live in your fantasy world.
I wish, so bad
Blame gamers for micro transactions. Video games have been inflation proof for the last 30 years. A $10 increase won't kill anyone.
Absolutely agree. What is it with this irrational belief that games need to remain the same price no matter what????
It's the people who don't have jobs and get $20 a week by their parents. Sorry kids, but you'll need to wait 4 weeks now instead of 3, lol.
@MogwaiFS There are people out there who do game on a budget and can't afford to go out and buy a new game day one and that $10 price increase does hurt them. To that budget person a new game is probably their only sense of enjoyment they can afford. Would you rather keep food in your stomach and a roof over your head or starve and be homeless since you went out of your budget to grab that $10 increased in price game. The $10 price increase does hurt the consumer and people who do budget gaming all it is are companies being greedy. The $10 increase does kill it kills the hype of the game because now people gotta wait for the game to go on sale or wait to find a used copy. My new games where I live are jumping from $80 to $90 brand new day one tell me that doesn't kill anyone.
@knightofelemia Gaming is not a right its a hobby. No one is entitled to play games. In your example if the difference between someone going broke and homeless is $10 then maybe those people should rethink their purchases.
@ianyoung3 Every hobby has a price and everybody is entitled to some form of entertainment whether its going to the movies or staying at home and watching a movie or even gaming. I know a streamer who is a quadriplegic and he loves gaming bumping up a game by $10 could wreck the joy he gets from gaming. And I do know people who look forward to that new game that they saved every penny just to get and forget about the troubles they have in real life and immerse themselves into a fantasy for a while that extra $10 on a game just means the gotta pinch pennies more. I'd rather have a friend gaming then doing something stupid like jabbing a needle in their arm with a bunch of chemicals to escape the real world.
Who said gaming was a right? Gaming is expensive! Honestly, if you can afford the PC or game console, you can afford the damn games. Not all games are $70, they can be as cheap as $10 and don't tell me they are all ready because there are gems for everyone. Also, there are free to play games. Don't pull the whole "new game is their enjoyment". If they can't afford the games, they need to learn how to save up or find another hobby if it's too expensive. That's like if I said "ah man, the only enjoyment for me is a V8 Mustang. I can afford the car but the new gas prices are KILLING ME! How can I afford it now if they increase the gas from $4 to $5. Having a fast car, again, is not a right. It's a privilege.
Easy, don’t buy day 1, buy used, also, games are steeply discounted 30-60 days after release these days. Nothing wrong with being a budget gamer, but folks don’t need to feel entitled to be there day 1 if it breaks the bank. If $10 breaks you, pay your bills and hold to what you have left. These are what we call priorities.
I buy most of my games during deep sales anyway.
Microtransactions are not going anywhere. Gamers will need to mature their point of view and wrap their heads around higher prices for games and OPTIONAL transactions not going anywhere. If people are complaining about $70 games then they would certainly complain if the industry proportionally raised game prices compared to development costs. I am not saying all games need to be $70 but this attitude of basically ignoring the economics of making video games is just ignorant.
I didn't know Bobby Kotick had a N4G account
@blastoise Naw just being realistic. What other forms of entertainment media have a price point that has remained stagnant as long as video games have? There needs to be a price increase as well as exploring many different price points.
I agree. But that's why I'm not understanding the increase in price with companies reporting massive profits especially from microtransactions.... these companies clearly aren't investing the properties back into the companies.
If only you knew the amount of money that actually does get reinvested. You do realize that games don't fall from the sky right? You need to pay the employees, the software, the electricity bill (which believe it or not, can be in the tens of thousands a month), pay for the location for workers, etc. You know why they have major profits? Because making a game is a huge risk. One bad game can put many game companies out of business. The bigger ones can lose a whole lot if they ever get a failed launch. Why shouldn't a company make a lot for a big risk? Remember Mars needs moms from Pixar? They lost over 100 million from that movie. Imagine if Pixar wasn't big and only made 1 movie at a time. That would have put them out of business or near it.
We already pay 65-90 bucks on dlc, micro transactions etc. if the price goes up but the package is all in compassing then I could care less. If I want a game I buy it, I no longer buy frivolously so, if I’m skeptical I will wait for a price drop. I won’t lose out in the end
Not gonna happen. Hopefully the predatory loot boxes go away. I have no issue with cosmetics that aren’t outrageous (looking at you gears)
Game prices should not go up, these companies are making tons of money of these games at 60 bucks. They dont even tell us digital sales numbers. They also have dlc and microtransactions that they make tons of money off. This is just pure greed plain and simple. I buy a ton of games on all platforms but if game prices go up then ill only use gamepass, ps now, and sales on pc to get games.
Yeah that's not gonna happen. The fact that they are considering upping the price is because they want to make more money. Getting rid of the mtx would result in less money which is the opposite of what they want...
Would be nice, but we all know it'll never happen.
Prices are going up because development costs are going up. I don't understand what is so hard to comprehend about this. People are constantly bitching and moaning when realistically game prices haven't changed in 30 years and based on inflation it as actually considerably cheaper to game today than it was back then. I have been gaming since the 80's. Games used to routinely sell for $70 or more in the U.S. It wasn't until the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube gen the $50 price tag became the standard. That then raised to $60 with PS3/Xbox360 generation which is still cheaper than a lot of games back in the 80's and 90's. Hell there were games on the N64 that retailed for $100. Everyone wants these incredibly epic experience but those experiences cost a ton of money to make and require a lot of man power. Take AC for example. They routinely have 1000+ people working on it.
Development cost depends on the game but most of the time it's just greed.
How about games with microtransactions stay at 60 and games without them can go up to 70. 2k makes billions off microtransactions alone no reason for the game to be 70 bucks
And do you know how much they spent making games and paying off the rights to use official sport logos and player names? Millions and millions. But no one talks about that right? Because people only listen to the profits and not the amount spent, or how much work it took to make the game. Not to mention that spending that much money is a huge risk and if they pull it off, why shouldn't they get rewarded?
NBA 2K is egregious they are the number one worst example of micro transactions. How the pitch forks haven't come for them and come for them hard I can never imagine. Though I scrolled through their reviews a month or so ago with my little brother and it was 5 straight pages of 1 star reviews talking about pay to win mechanics. He tried to explain to me how it was ok to pay for things like temporary boosts and haircuts. I told him he was a brainwashed sucker and I'll never give him a dime for VC. They bastardized the last 3 or so version of WWE 2k trying to do the same thing. When your suddenly being forced to pay for stuff that was free in all the previous game . That is not adding value they are so greedy. You CAW starts off with the most basic pants and shirts and moves. Levels up so incredibly slow that every match is a struggle between life and death and heaven forbid you face anyone that is not a jobber. One mistake and you are smoked. 2k needs to be drawn and quartered they have earned it. They make EA look like CD Project Red by comparison.
Absolutely. But they won't...
The truth is that this generation, some can argue even the last generation, games have not been $60. Not when they have DLC or bundles or packs or loot boxes or add-ons or any form of a freemium economy, not to mention a season pass. For $60 you will get the skeleton of the game, best believe you will get the same when it is $70 next generation.
Compare an average game from the 90s to now. Are today's games still skeleton games compare to back then? We have many online features for most games and games in general look way better. Not to mention the "skeleton" games are mostly the free to play games. I say mostly as in the majority of the "skeleton" games are the free to play games, but even free to play games feel complete.
Back in the 90s we got the full game we paid for (a former EA CEO once made reference to that as if it was a bad thing). No content was relegated behind a paywall, no microtransactions or season pass. You are right in that games in general look way better however it still does not justify microtransactions in a $60 game, much less a $70 one. To further substantiate my point, here is Jim Sterling: https://www.google.com/url?... https://m.youtube.com/watch...
No it won't go because they know you daddy gona pay for it
If you guys think this is bad wait about 2 more gens for only digital consoles. It's coming....
Goo thing I still have 2K11 on the 360 n PS3, I'll stick with those. People still update the rosters for older sports games
I will just wait for price drops, first week sales are going to suck for some games/companies. My backlog is already massive, and will only get more massive with PS5. No need to buy day 1.
Agreed. And if a game really does end up having MTs, no need to buy ever.
Microtransactions are here to stay millions make purchases of them. Publisher's don't give a damn about n4g
70 dollar games and content locked behind microtransactions? I miss the days when it was all about the gamer. Before greed took over.
How is it locked? More like extra content that is optional for people. If I buy a car, you think I will complain about not having the leather seats, or not having the V8 engine instead of the V6. "Stupid car companies, trying to get us to buy the complete car instead of the top off version". Ummm, that extra stuff cost more to make.
No thanks. Never in my life purchased micro transactions and never plan to. As far as I’m concerned if you’ve ever bought them you’re a mug. I dont plan on paying more for my games so some little kid doesn’t have to buy a virtual pack of cards. How about parents teach their kids a little discipline?
I agree and also season passes need to go to.
I never buy them, not even once. Not the paid DLC too, i'd rather wait for the complete edition than to buy DLC separately, i am very patient.
Then don't buy the microtransactions? It's funny because when DLC and microtransactions were new, people were like "holy shit, we have a game and they are expanding it/adding more stuff"! Awesome! Now it's like "fuck you greddy bastards". No one is forcing you to buy anything, it's an option. It's actually funny to see stupid people complain about extra stuff that people can buy IF they wanted to. "But but, should be in the game already". Says who? "Oh, but that content was made during the development of the game". So they are spending money on making this extra content that probably wouldn't have been made, but decided to do it anyway and sell it stand alone as an OPTION for people. Yeah, because that's being evil.
Best way to rid yourself off microtransaction filth is go retro.
Guess Im sticking to PC
Won't happen cause gamers keep buying the BS.
I would be cool with micro transactions with a Free game. When I mean MT I mean you know what you are buying. I despise loot boxes.
There it is, the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet all day!
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