“It’s not only about reading from SSD, but also providing the assets for the game,” says CBE Software’s Jan Kavan.
Xbox's priorities are attacking Playstation. No wonder they keep on losing especially when it comes to home consoles you sell to the whole world not just US and UK. No wonder Xbox always fails. wasting time on paying fake news articles and even forum trolls
Let me guess, articles praising the XSX, paid off. Articles praising PS5, genuine and honest.
Not that I'm defending gamingbolt at all but yes that's the general consensus around here. Its a very immature outlook.
@Sunny well if you want to shit post I can post about how Sony's E3 06 was 80% lies. Lies to journalists and fans with video evidence. No company are saints or perfect all the time.
@Angelic Don't forget to include the part about people working more hours to afford a PS3. It's even older than Sunny's chosen article from 2014, but infinitely more relevant today.
@Ram It's a company that has only released games so far for MS/PC praising MS. It's not like a 3rd party dev making games for both systems or a software developer like say EPIC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
That pretty much sums up 90% of the thought processes of the youngsters on this site.
https://www.gamespot.com/fo... about sony that some people forget to search for ,they only one side of the brain
most of these fanboy will hide when switch outsold both lmao. overpriced console ($500 or more) with expensive games ($70) good luck selling those in the aftermath of pandemic and ressesion where million people lost their jobs and small bussines tanking.
Yes, a multi-billion dollar company is paying trolls to post on N4G.... Not selling the most of something is not a fail and is no reason to stop. If this were the case we would have 1 option for all consumer products.
1 trillion.....just sayin 🤣🤣🤣
Wait... what? attack?... what's wrong with you guys? Why do positive Xbox news hurt you so much?... I'm lost here. How about you actually consider looking at the bright side of each console... you will have more fun than by trolling xbox news.
I don’t know... kind of like how Xbox fans get butthurt over Epic talking positively about the PS5? You know an actual multiplatform developer? Lmao
I wouldn't say so... it's just that EPIC is so obviously under contract with Sony, so their comments are as objective as those making Xbox exclusives, like Scorn devs.
I'm frankly glad to hear that this architecture will help with open world games. How is this anything other than a good thing? I want both consoles to be very capable, because I plan on owning both of them.
This is the problem, they can’t stand positive Xbox news due to insecurities
Exactly notice Sony haven’t responded to any of the attacks , I’m extremely disappointed in them , they also attacked Sony by stating the clocks on ps5 are bad which actually isn’t true atall it’s very tactless and distasteful . Way to choose some class microsoft?’
Man I wish the company with a 1 Trillion market cap would pay me to be a troll.....80 B sony paying you?? If they are let me know I want in. But trust me people are into numbers and they know where to invest.
I'll give you a pass on your ignorance... But if Microsoft is making profits off its gaming division and Xbox Gamepass is growing rapidly in expansion which can set them up for massive profits... Is that failure? Or are you just a sad fan boy?
Another developer over never heard of.
you know its slow because of the word Velocity added to the name when they start adding ultimate to the front of things you know there disappointed with the code
Might as well rename it to Memebox.
Says the person who can't differentiate between they're and there.
Wow you know you're out of comebacks when you start talking about common grammatical mistakes.
If people are going to try to talk sh!t about something, they should at least appear intelligent, even if their comments aren't. It shouldn't be a common mistake, I learned that stuff in elementary school.
The Velocity architecture was announced when MS did their deep dive on X Series all the way back in March. People don't know anything around here.
Their not fans of gaming in general just Sony games
Xbox Series X has two exes in the name. that's how you know it's extra special, and two exes are doubly extreme. Marketing research shows that anything that is extreme enough to have two exes is going to trend better with the consumer, because hardcore parkour and all that.
Strictly speaking it has 3 ...
@rainslacker **"Xbox Series X has two exes in the name. that's how you know it's extra special, and two exes are doubly extreme"** When you realise that Xbox Series X actually has three X's in the name and all of a sudden the sarcastic comment you intended to be a witty slight at the Xbox brand has actually made you look rather stupid.
True...but one is technically a lowercase X, which is the diminutive, so it doesn't count. It's just there to add inflection. Plus, the 2nd X, is part of another word, "box", and box has never been a snappy word....ever, so it's worth disregarding.
@rainslacker **"It's just there to add inflection"** I think you need to go back to school and learn the correct use and meaning of the word "inflection" Mr. rainslacker. Here is the definition of the word inflection to help you out. "a change in the form of a word (typically the ending) to express a grammatical function or attribute such as tense, mood, person, number, case, and gender" https://www.thoughtco.com/i... The word "box" having an X on the end is NOT an example of inflection. An example of inflection would be "boxES" (to add number) BoxED (past tense action) BoxING (action / doing) etc etc. Inflection is used to add function or attribute. Adding an X to the word BO to make BOX does not achieve this, it's ridiculous that you would even claim that it does. **"True...but one is technically a lowercase X, which is the diminutive, so it doesn't count"** There are THREE (3) letter X in "Xbox Series X". Whether one or more X's appear in upper or lowercase is irrelevant. The fact that in your opinion a lowercase letter is "diminutive" has no bearing whatsoever. **"and box has never been a snappy word....ever, so it's worth disregarding"** Because the word box being "snappy" has bearing on the amount of times the letter X appears in "Xbox Series X" how? SMH.
I think maybe you're reading way too much into what I'm saying, and I was referring to the change in pitch. But, if we want to get all technical, technically speaking, the x at the end of box, is a different inflection than the X at the start of Xbox, and the end of "Series X". However, you are correct, it wouldn't be inflection to cite that change in tone as an example of inflection. I just didn't care to think of a more proper term for an off the cuff quick comment, so I'll not bother going back to school to learn the proper use, as I'm fine using the proper terms on most occassions. Not sure what you feel you need to achieve with going into so much analysis, but if you are having fun, carry on. My original comment, or even my follow up, was never an opinion. Just a random thing to say that I sometimes do. Nothing more, nothing less.
like "Dynamic" then
Destiny108019h ago(Edited 19h ago) you know its slow because of the word Velocity added to the namE” I just got dumber after reading that
According to the engineers at microsoft it acts as virtual memory up to a 100 GBs. We shall see
So 100GBs at least of the SSD is reserved for the OS?
They said it acts as virtual memory that devs can access anytime. ( need to see it in action first ) From the 16 GBs of memory, 3.5 GB is reserved for the OS.
So a poorer version of Sony's SSD pipeline which can stream data much faster than this.
No I'm certain Xbox owners don't want anything more than loading, don't tell them SSD can change game design. And never, never, ever remind them that PS5's SSD is at least twice as fast and far more advanced with it's 12 channels and dedicated chips to control cache clearing and manage memory for the GPU.
This is why we need a DF teardown of the PS5 They already did one for the XsX but the "other side" isn't interested to watch
Huh? Is this supposed to be a downplay or something? Sony can do it or not, who cares? It's not necessary, Cerney went over all the details already. And they are the only one who have shown game play from the console. Showing actual game play is far more important to me than seeing the inside. I mean, what do you think they are going to open up the PS5 and there isn't going to be an SSD inside? That all the dev's with dev kits that have talked about it are lying that there is even an SSD inside at all? But even if they do choose to do a tear down I would rather have Mark Cerney do it alone than with Richard.
Sorry Hakuoro for not believing Sony when it comes to hardware. PS2 Emotion Engine, PS3 the Cell was just hype. They have the game I aint bashing games. Wasn't the Pro marketed as a full 4K gaming machine? Wasn't Mr. Cerney the brains behind the Pro?? Gaming since C64, I don't fall for hype
But of course Microsoft who has used deception and misleading statements and outright lies is totally legitimate. And of course we'll just ignore everything that all the dev's from both big and small dev's plus the game play they have already shown is all lies. Ok... "Sorry Hakuoro for not believing Sony when it comes to hardware. PS2 Emotion Engine, PS3 the Cell was just hype." Sure, whatever. Like anything was even close to the PS2 at launch and the Cell was so strong it was used for years by the air force and other scientific research organizations. "Pro marketed as a full 4K" No, they talked about checkerboard from day one. And the flip side of that is Microsoft and their native 4k talk even though the majority of games used dynamic 4k. And how about the Microsoft's "only 4k console" 2016 commercial talking about the xbox one s. "Gaming since C64, I don't fall for hype" Unless it's Microsoft's hype and BS BTW I have Hunted the Wumpus, have you? *cough* TI-99/4A
Majority of X1 games are 4K/30
@ Hakuoro Them Sony shades got you blind bro. Wasn't aware the X1s was marketed as a 4K machine back in 2016, was busy playing games. So Microsoft lied about the X1X in regards to 4K gaming? Cell used by the Air Force? Used as servers? Please all that potential with the Cell and nobody uses it today 😂😂😂 The majority of X1X games use checkerboarding?????? You're in too deep with Sony, enjoy playing only on the PS5 while I'll be playing both
@Minute Man 721 Cerney has been in the game business forever. He is like the Joe Biden of video games
Cell used by the Air Force? Used as servers? Air Force Taps PlayStation 3 for Research https://www.computerworld.c... Astrophysicist Replaces Supercomputer with Eight PlayStation 3s https://www.wired.com/2007/... And obviously 15-20 years later no one still uses the Cell as faster CPU/GPU are available for cheaper but at the time it was one of the most affordable solutions for many research types or workloads. . And if you look at the SPU shader design of the Cell it is the basic model for the modern GPU CU that you see in NVIDIA and AMD and Intel GPU's. So it's fair to say that the design is still used today and probably will be far into the future.
Which in real world terms means slightly faster loading.
Did you read the article?
Do you even realize your comment is exactly what I was making fun of? Honestly... you make yourself look bad.
Hakuoro, calm your anger toward Xbox down. The PS5 has an amazing SSD, we get it. But stop acting like PS5's SSD is going to fiiiinally bring us the advent of open world games because those have been around for nearly 20 years now, back when disc streaming was a thing. Multi-world games, PS5 will have Ratchet and that'll be fun. The Xbox will have The Medium and that'll be neat too. Then Ubisoft will make Assassins Creed a multi-world game and they'll apply it to all of their games. And just like this gen, we'll get tired of the gimmick when they all start feeling the same. At that point in time, though, it'll be hard to say if you've saved more time than the Xbox players. Sure, maybe a game will be a couple seconds slower here and there, but those Xbox players have 175GB more of storage that they won't need to worry about managing as much. I'll shed a single tear for you.
Seeing Hakuoro mad always make my day. Usually mean Xbox is doing something right lmao. You gotta get that hate out your heart bud. You act like Xbox stole ya girl.
All you do is follow me around and insult me... It seems like I bother you more than anything else.
You post in everything Xbox to complain about everything Xbox. It's hard not to find your bitterness.
But I thought the arm chair engineers on N4G said the Xbox's SSD is trash and just some off the shelf part?
To be fair, xbox fans have downplayed the use of ssd much more than ps fans have...
I have downplayed the speed of the PS5 SSD, I don't believe it'll be necessary outside first party, however I haven't said SSDs won't be worthwhile.
I ment more fanboys than fans, should have been clearer, we dissagree on the speed thing but I've never felt you were a fanboy, this wasnt aimed at xbox fans like yourself.
I mean fanboys in general don't tend to be the smartest of the bunch lol using their reference for sound arguments is useless man
100% agree with you there
Xbox fans downplay it and PS fans don't because that's the single area where the PS5 is objectively better. PS5 fans talk about the point of diminishing returns when it comes to teraflop performance. Is there anything invalid about Xbox fans feeling that same way about SSD speeds? Resident Evil VIII is an example of a game that had its current-gen version canceled because the benefits of SSD loading enabled them to push that high-quality vision. PS5 fans cited that as an example of the greatness of the SSD. But... The game is still coming to Series X... And the Series X also has a multi-world game with The Medium, where Sony demoed Ratchet. UE5 is being utilized by several MS first party studios. So it sounds like, yes the PS5 will have astounding speeds, but Xbox will be able to do all of that, too. Or to better state the point - it's way too early to see what experienced devs will do with the hardware at their fullest.
Shit, should I have put a trigger warning on my post🤔 What does any of your rant do to prove what I said wrong? It's a fact far more downplay of what an ssd could do for games was done by xbox fans than ps fans🤷♂️ I never mentioned the gpu, or games, or even xboxs ssd, didnt compare them either. Calm yourself, take a deep breath, re-read the whole conversation then see that I didnt point out the ps5s ssd or the xboxs ssd, what either could or couldn't do, their gpus or anything else about either system or games.
Uhh it was downplayed due to overhyped. If someone with a V6 who think it could actually take on a V8. Would telling them to calm down it's not that special be downplay? Technically it is but it's legitimate
No, it was downplayed full stop, use whatever reason you like🤷♂️
chiefJohn117 If someone with a V6 who think it could actually take on a V8. You know rally cars are 4 cylinder but have 800+ horse power I'm 100% certain that could beat a 200 hp 8 cylinder van. At this point it's obvious you can't understand even the basics of game development and no matter who, even if it's a Microsoft developer (like this article) can make you understand.
Dunno about trash, just not as fast as Sony's SSD. And technically, XSX's SSD could be brought off the shelf, although I think it's soldered onto the main board with the console. Same performance though. Sony's SSD isn't currently off the shelf, but may be one day....and similar drives are available in some fashion. Sony's I/O structure to go along with that SSD is most certainly not off the shelf though.