Thomas Bardwell from ccn.com writes : "Despite the sinister side of fandom's best efforts to poison the public narrative, 4.1 million people played The Last of Us Part 2 at launch."
- A stunning 4.1 million people played The Last of Us Part 2 in the first three days after release. - The game attracted more players than either Marvel’s Spider-Man or God of War did within the same time frame. A MONTH before the game released, there were leaks. There was internet rage. There were spoilers all over youtube. A WHOLE MONTH. A lot of people were spoiled, including myself. I still wanted to go on the ride that they intended and I'm so glad I did. The game on the whole is a masterpiece. It made me think and feel things that no game has ever done before. It's not for everybody, but the game is a massive success.
I'm glad you feel that way. Personally, I felt nothing remotely close to what the first game managed to make me feel. Part 2 is the technically superior game, it's been a whole gen in the making of course, but as a whole I'd say Part 1 was the superior overall experience. Congratulations to ND.
I was the opposite. The sheer range of emotions I went through playing this game. I have never in my life felt genuine grief playing a game before. No game has ever made me go through the cyle of grief before. Most people who play TLOUII don't even recognise that that is what they are going through. Anger, Denial, Depression, Bargaining, Acceptance. That is a testament to the genius of ND being able to harness the medium to such an extent.
CCN don’t spout conspiracy theories. Some people love the game, some people hate it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and their reasons - even if they differ from yours, even if they differ from mine! Not everyone has to think the same way and people criticising it doesn’t mean there was a coordinated evil plan to destroy it. I’m so happy for Naughty Dog that this is set to break PS4 sales records and set a new high quality standard for how great games can be. But this doesn’t give anyone the right to crow about people with a different opinion. Being a true fan of gaming is being able to intelligently disagree with others.
Yeah, of course this game doesn't make you feel similar things as the first, it's not intending to. The first game was exploring themes of love and it was trying to tell a specific story that elicits a happy and melancholic feeling at the same time. The second game, exploring themes of hate, literally skips the entire road trip Dina and Ellie have and it drops you right into Seattle where some bad stuff's gonna happen involving people you probably hate and it shows you what hatred can lead one to do and what toll it takes. You shouldn't be feeling the same things you felt as the first, they might as well have remade the first game if that's their intention.
i dont think anything in any form of entertainment will top the giraffes in last of us 1. i felt so gay it was a beautiful moment
zeuanimals, Thing is I wasn't looking for the same experience as the first game. I felt nothing while playing Part 2 no sympathy for the characters. Well except Dina, I kinda like her the most. That's in stark contrast to characters in the first game where I liked almost all of them.
I felt the first game had a more personal, intimate story. The second was more broad and about human nature itself. One was personal, the other allegorical. Cant say one approach is better than the other, but I felt that the stories worked for both games. I do think the first had a better story, but part two was technically a better game, but had a lot of pacing issues.
@UltraNova I think what you were experiencing can be considered as the sequel curse. You were going in ready after the 1st game. As for the 1st game, you weren't ready. I know I wasn't. And to be honest, I was already crying at the Sarah scene and thought..."boy, this is gonna be a hard journey" and so it was. I even stopped playing for over a week after the scene with Henry & Sam.
I was the opposite. First game I loved but experienced no emotions whatsoever. Second game I cried like a baby
@redey3 There's a phrase for people who see conspiracies in everything where none actually exist; "Bat sh*t crazy" It's just a video game, not a manifesto.
IMO the first game is nothing compared to this game. It makes the first game feel like it was a nice try. This game is the best game of its genre for sure and puts the first game to shame. As much as i love that first game.
Tlou 2 is an amazing game and its technologically the best game ever made. My hope is to have a lot of options of games to buy in the ps5 generation with the same level of quality like tlou2.
It’s sure a good sign of things to come if they were happy to release that on PS4 and not hold it back for ps5. I’m glad it came to PS4 I can always do my 3rd run on ps5 😍🙌🏻 They must have plenty of epics brewing for ps5
COD sells more in a year than tlou2 + tlou1 in it's lifetime. Do you think that game is a masterpiece?
Cod is on all platforms.... And technically speaking its an amazing game. Why else do we all buy it? Like every year? Just because its the same old every year does not mean it isnt great. And im not even a cod guy really. Their is a reason cod is #1.
Most cods sell about 17-25 million total lifetime sales. On all available platforms Last of us 2 did 4.1 million in 3 days on 1 platform Way more impressive but nice try. Your logic sucks
Before making that comment, you should learn simple stuff as what is an exclusive and multi-platform game. What is a single player and a multi-player game. Your comparison has no logic at all.
you clearly have the logic of a peanut...
There's no comparing the two. They're in 2 separate genres. One being a multiplatform FPS like Battlefield or battlefront, the other being a console exclusive story based one player game in the same family as say GOW or Uncharted. They appeal to different groups of gamers.
@DrDeath "Why else do we all buy it? Like every year?" We don't, I haven't bought a COD game since BLOPS, that was around 10 years ago.
yeah ok kid
@DrDeath That doesnt make sense. If COD sells 17-25 million lifetime sales on all platforms, which is 3 then it sells about 5.6 - 8.3 million on each. However, we all know that game sales are normally much higher on one console. Therefore it wouldnt be so evenly distributed. Considering we get CODS every year and we only get a The Last of Us once every generation for only 2 gens so far....yea Im way more impressed with COD numbers then TLOU2. How can it still sell so well given how many iterations? I dislike COD's btw. Much prefer TLOU and other singleplayer experiences.
@rgr Your comparing 10 year lifetime sales to 4 fing days. Thats 3365 days compared to 4 days. And already last of us 2 on 1 platform has 4 million. The fastest selling sony game in history. Are you truly serious? You must have hit your head. And more than once.
Not very bright are you?
Truth! Speak it man!
Everyone has a right to like or dislike the game or any game for that matter but TLOU2 is getting so much hate from those who never intended to play it anyway. It's getting the usual hate because it's another playstation exclusive Youtubers want views and likes so I am not surprised by their reaction. The trust between youtubers and gamers will begin to disappear because they are becoming buddies with some publishers so their opinions can be bought (ms did buy pr for xbox one during launch and admitted it)
it was always going to sell really well, its a sequel to one of the most successful games ever. But that doesn't' mean that the game is better than the predecessor. Its extremely poorly written with no real entertainment value other than the detailed graphics. Everyone is free to their own opinion whether its jumping on the bandwagon and calling it a Masterpiece like alot of the critics, or if yours detracts from the critics and is more in-line with users reviews saying this game is a slog and unenjoyable.
Get woke go bro...oh...oh OK....
Yeah I hear you looper, When the "woke" thing fails, they love the "go woke go broke" mantra. But when it succeeds, those same people get silent real fast
Went woke, they choked
They are certainly not silent, i can hear the sound of them as the collectively down very large crows.
Probably helps the game isnt the woke fest that it was made out to be. If it were, I'd probably be here saying I didnt like the game, although I still would have contributed to the sales. My issue was never with things "going woke". It was always with the shallow and pandering ways that things went woke. The only thing really woke related to this game is some things drukkman said about it during the marketing or discussion of the game before its release.
Thats the thing. Its woke elements is blown way way out of proportions.
Except it didn't actually go that woke.
Like the words of Deborah Harry's (Blondie) song "Backfired" "My man your plan...Backfired in your face"
But people can still dislike the outcome of the story.
That's true. But the level of hate this game is getting is way beyond just about disliking the story.
Yeah its just about disliking in general................mmm, come to think about it, disliking, anger, emotion, you know what? That would make a good story........
People who end up disliking the outcome of a story don't typically go on month long tirades and give games zero's. Even Mass Effect 3, whose ending was poor only had people hating on the ending, and they had specific reasons cited on why the ending sucked according to them. They were able to list flaws with the ending, and given specific examples of what was wrong with it. Granted, there were some fringes out there that did take things too far, but most people seemed to be able to express why they were upset well enough. In the case of TLOU2, there is a lot of hyperbole, exaggeration, outright falsehoods, and in many cases, no critical analysis of what people didn't like about it. This has existed well before the game released, so when that just continues on without any change to what was being said before, it's hard to take it seriously. If people were disappointed in the game, or hated it for whatever reason that was valid, I'd encourage them to say those specific reasons they fell that way. If people call them haters in return, then just ignore them. But, if they can't list those examples, then people aren't going to end up respecting their opinion. If people want to focus on those who don't agree with them and just want to assert their opinions as consensus, then they shouldn't be getting upset that people who feel differently are asserting their opinions, and disregarding others which don't offer up something meaningful to the discussion. And I will say that some of this goes both ways. But the people who like it seem more prone to being able to give relevant examples, and call out the hyperbole that surrounds this game.
Yup 4.1 million played and how many dislike it afterwards ... alot of ppl. Look at spiderman or god of man vs this game. Just because you got sucker into a trashy game doesnt make it a good game since it sold alot heck , just look at the Wii solded 100 million unit ...was it a good console vs PS or Xbox ?
Well I haven't played Spider-Man and I traded God of War for Wolfenstein: Youngblood without even completing it (Got the platinum for Youngblood though). But I did get The Last of Us 2 at launch and I'm currently on my second playthrough and love it. So you're statistics aren't in line with everyone. I've also never played Bloodborne, Skyrim or The Witcher 3.
Exactly. Look at the most popular music artists in the world right now.... are they amazing? No, some of them are, but generally, no. I haven't played the game, but it annoys me just because people disliked the games story, their only come back is "oh you dont like gay people REEEEEE????", people are so fucking simple nowadays.
Your logic fails terribly. Just because some people don't like it doesn't make it a bad game. By your logic, I don't like Fortnight, therefore Fortnight must be a bad game. Do you see the stupidity there? Here's a better perspective, Fortnight is not my type of game, and there are lots of peolpe who like it, and those that don't. Their personal preference does not speak to the game's quality. Just because you and the rest of the hate brigade feed off the negative hype, doesn't mean there are not millions of people who love TLOUII. Moreover, even with all the negative hype the game will contiune to sell bucketloads, just like Spiderman and God of War, nothing you trolls can do to change that unfortunately.
I don't doubt that there are many people who like it. People who are politically aligned with the politics being pushed in the game, people who enjoy the type of gameplay it offers, people who don't mind what they did with the characters and narrative. I don't doubt it at all. But it's really pathetic the way people like you label anybody that didn't like it as haters. Trying to use sales as some supposed proof that the "haters" were wrong is about the most irrational and idiotic thing I've ever heard. I hope I won't see any of you fanboys slinging hate at the next Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty. Or when Cyberpunk 2077 sells like crazy I don't want to see any of you fanatics downplaying it just to make your exclusives look better in comparison. Because you'll look like massive hypocrites. You've already established that you think sales = quality and all detractors must eat crow.
A new rule should be, that whoever states that this game was pushing a political agenda, they need to cite where in the game this political agenda was pushed, and how it affected the story but was somehow completely unrelated to anything else going on. Anyone who says this game pushed a political agenda, I immediately know hasn't played the game, because there was none, unless we just want to say that humans are terrible people, but can be good if they try.
Actually the Wii was a fantastic console against PS and Xbox as it offered a much different alternative and reached wider audience as it was easy and accessible for all ages and abilities. In fact, PSVR wouldn't have the controllers it does and Xbox wouldnt have an avatar system as both were something that was enjoyed about the console and was copied by Microsoft and Sony.
This game had more leakes, more articles, more bandwagon Youtubers than any other game in current history, many purchasers would have already know about the game. The truth is, the moaners, the vocal are a minority and do not speak for the masses, these figures speak for the masses. Except that there are adults out there who don’t by into view hungry Youtubers, click searching articles or so called ‘gamers’ who stomp their feet and shout loud. Your other point is pure nonsense, I imagine there are millions of people who preferred the Wii, its about personal preference not which is technically better.
People like will always find an excuse for anything. The game is a massive mega succeeds hit and your opinion will not change reality. Deal with it like a man and stop crying.
Likewise, the sales don't change one thing about the game or people's opinion of it. Plenty of music, movies, tv series and games that sell well are nevertheless disliked by many other people. I could make a game with messaging about how abortion is murder and how the right to bear arms is vital for the maintenance of freedom and millions of right-wing people may love it and give it strong sales, but many left-wing people may hate it. This is only an example. I'm not saying that political messaging is the only reason people dislike The Last of Us 2. People are entitled to their opinions about things and sales don't change that.
"Plenty of music, movies, tv series and games that sell well are nevertheless disliked by many other people" This is indeed true. But, and this is a big but, when it comes to games like this, most of us in the community do share common things that we like in our games, and TLOU2 does pretty well at satisfying what I see most people say they like. That leaves story points, which I can understand people not being happy with, and that's fair. That leaves political statements, which really didn't exist in this game, but somehow seems to be brought up frequently. That leaves just people hating because they want to hate for whatever reason they have. The people who have valid criticisms of the game, and can express them properly are being drowned out by the mob, and it's a disservice to those people. The people acting like they're speaking on behalf of those people really aren't, because all they care about is trying to bring the game down, not express their opinion.
I haven't played it but honestly there were something like 20,000 reviews of 0 before the game was even out. That's crazy and the review sites universally loved it. You and many other people may not like the plot but I can't help to think the game is actually really good. I'll play it and decide for myself.
Metacritic just shits over everything you just said. They all liked and loved the game enough to give it high scores. You're so ridiculous. You need to take the L bro.
You know people can claim they disliked it and write negative reviews about it even if they never played the game. Here's a very telling user review: "This game is not worth you to cost $60 to buy,if you are a fan of TLOU .It really sucks" You think we should all believe this clown actually played the game. Its called review bombing bud these people haven't played the game they're just trying to lower the rating as much as possible becasue they're immature babies that cant deal with the games success. If all you have to use as fodder for your argument is highly questionable and unreliable user reviews then you already lost the argument.
Sure it got good initial sales but you can’t deny it won’t be as fondly remember as the first one.
It's like Star Trek The Next Generation. In many ways it's superior but will never be as recognized as the original.
Only time will tell.
It's better than the first in almost every way.
According to who? You? 😂
True that.. I love both but I'll always love the first one best.
the people hyper defending this game are just as lame as the people who hate on it. This guy sounds like he was on the verge of tears while writing this article and it honestly made my day.
OH MAN all that hate and what did these pathetic losers accomplish? 4 million in just 3 DAYS! just how much L's are these haters willing to take? cause i can't seem to point out 1 win they've gotten throughout their whole crusade over 2 months in. what's their next tactic now? i'm curious to see what excuse and lame bs they'll come up with now...this is gonna be interesting!!! go woke go broke was the saying?? right...OKAY how much more energy are these haters willing to expend on a losing side...
It might have sold a lot more. We simply don't know how many people decided not to buy it, nor do we know how many people bought it and didn't like it. The sales don't change anything about anyone's opinion. You sound truly ridiculous. The fact you think the game selling well somehow represents an "L" to those that didn't like it only shows how irrational and childish you are. Nobody cares. Almost everyone knew it was going to sell well. But plenty of things sell well that many other people dislike or despise. This is no different. I've seen you in Cyberpunk 2077 articles hating on the game. So, after it inevitably sells like gangbusters I'm going to come back here and make you eat crow and take the "L". Since you hypocrites already established here that sales = quality and anyone who disagrees is a hater and on the losing side.
- A stunning 4.1 million people played The Last of Us Part 2 in the first three days after release.
- The game attracted more players than either Marvel’s Spider-Man or God of War did within the same time frame.
A MONTH before the game released, there were leaks. There was internet rage. There were spoilers all over youtube. A WHOLE MONTH. A lot of people were spoiled, including myself. I still wanted to go on the ride that they intended and I'm so glad I did. The game on the whole is a masterpiece. It made me think and feel things that no game has ever done before. It's not for everybody, but the game is a massive success.
Get woke go bro...oh...oh OK....
Like the words of Deborah Harry's (Blondie) song "Backfired" "My man your plan...Backfired in your face"