What Microsoft Needs To Do To Beat The PlayStation 5 Reveal

The console war is just beginning, but Microsoft needs to do something big to counteract Sony's recent press conference.

[Looper]

Just show your games. Show your new studios. No timed deals with publishers please, it's super consumer unfriendly.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Sony has quite a bit of timed deals though. It's unfair but it's buissness.

[Looper]

I don't mind Playstation's indie timed exclusives because it raises the games' profile to be associated with a console manufacturer but 3rd party timed exclusives are just greed in action.

Looking at you Square Enix

[borneFROMblood]

Square Enix thing is not PS5 only, but it was Designed for PS5, so it will have the best version on PS5.

[Sayai jin]

"I don't mind Playstation's indie timed exclusives because it raises the games' profile to be associated with a console manufacturer but 3rd party timed exclusives are just greed in action."

Smh...

[Marquinho]

• Halo Infinite + Forza 8 + Surprise AAA game AT LAUNCH would give them a 10/10 for the launch Window.
• Unveil new and refreshed IPs their studios are working on.
• Surprise 3rd party big exclusive(s).
• Unveil Series S at a crazy low price.
• Optional: Reveal XSX price.

Do this and MS has the pole position for the next-gen launch, as they had everything else covered since the XSX announcement back in 2019.

[bouzebbal]

Exclusives and gameplay or go home..

[Marquinho]

I forgot one tiny detail:

Polish Studio Acquisition. You can mark that one.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Microsoft does it too. They also have a disturbing habit of lying about timed exclusivity of certain games.

See Scorn and The Medium

[Spenok]

Nothing unfair about it. Everyone who has a system can and does do it. Therefore it's not an exclusive practice, and not unfair.

[RpgSama]

Sony showed the first year of the PS5 in terms of content, MS not only has to show the games and gameplay but games that will come out in the first year of life of the Series X, if their show will be about the usual 3 games for the first year and then everything new for 2/3 years down the line it will be hard for me to be immediately excited about getting one.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

"MS not only has to show the games and gameplay but games that will come out in the first year of life of the Series X,"

The Last Of Us 2 took nearly 4 years to release with the delays, Death stranding took nearly 4 years also, while ghosts took 3 years to release. We don't have release dates R& Clank Rift Apart or GT7. MS can announce what they have for launch, the coming year and games that are a ways away then that's fine also.

[Imortus_san]

"Sony showed the first year of the PS5 in terms of content," - Then it was terrible.

[Spicyram]

@immortus_san

"Sony showed the first year of the PS5 in terms of content," - Then it was terrible."

So ratchet and clank, Horizon zero dawn 2, spiderman and demon souls remake are terrible games? ok whatever you say hahahahaha😂😂&# 128514; On a serious note, those are system sellers, along with GT7. People will buy a ps5 for hzd 2, i can guarantee you that. Throw in sackboy, returnal, kena and bugsnax and that's a killer first year😀

[Rhythmattic]

"MS not only has to show the games and gameplay but games that will come out in the first year of life of the Series X"

I agree..
No one left behind right?
The only way that MS IMO would shake it up is by showing games only for X.. actually using its capabilities that older gens can't accomplish.....Theyre suggesting thats more than a year away after launch.
Other wise its the same game with higher settings than most the install base.
Higher Settings does not a game make.

[RpgSama]

@Imortus_Sam

""Sony showed the first year of the PS5 in terms of content," - Then it was terrible."

Sony showed for the first year of the PS5 more and better games than what the Series X has released in the past 4 years, plus they are actually exclusives built for next-gen, no upgraded this generation games, which is what the Series X will show.

[Lore]

@spicy

Some people want deeper games though dude. Demon’s Souls was the only game with actual depth to the mechanics. Ratchet is the only other title with a chance to add onto the gameplay formula of previous iterations and it’s not confirmed either way yet. All Horizon is going to offer is more dino’s and the ability to swim. The open world gameplay of Horizon offered “nothing to do” other than hunt dino’s and make you think there was character progression. At least Monster Hunter created an entire rpg system around the design of hunting beasts

[Smclaren1985]

It wasn’t the full year, they clearly stated it was just a taste of what’s to come there not going to show all there cards on 1 reveal think about it it was just the beginning they have tones of studios

[Rowco147]

Sony said they only showed half of their first year games

[DJStotty]

Here we go with the "gears, halo, forza" comments.

It is old, they have 15 studios, i can guarantee you, we won't have the "usual 3 games".

We haven't had the "usual 3 games" in the same year since 2015

[DJStotty]

@RpgSama

"Sony showed for the first year of the PS5 more and better games than what the Series X has released in the past 4 years"

Lol, i think you need to proof read your comments. Series X has not even launched, let alone released games for the last 4 years.

[Imortus_san]

@Spicyram

Indies, and some with PS2 grafics!!!! You saw the release date of all those games in your crystal ball?

We are going New Gen and you get, the same 30fps games check, Spider Man DLC check, remake of another nich game check, GT7 looks anything but not impressive more like a DLC for GT Sports, Ratchet had frame drops and 30fps check, last Little Big Planet was a flop, Kena is going to release on PS4 and PC maybe Xbox and Switch.

Yes, It does looks better then the PS4 very bad launch games, but far from a great presentation or a very good first year.

[crazyCoconuts]

I feel like to really knock a product launch out of the park you have to have unique and exciting features along with exclusive games. If the games can be had on current gen as well, then up the ante on new features. Current gen introduced effortless sharing of videos, streaming, cable/tv integration on Xbox, etc. New and innovative stuff. We know we're gonna get multi game resume on both systems, but what else? I want to be surprised with innovative features / services that you can only get with next gen. I expect both Sony and MS have some big surprised waiting for us, and that is what people need to get really excited. Not just higher resolutions.

[NeoGamer232]

I do not think a single PS gamer will flip over to XB because MS shows the game-for-game with PS5. If they are going to flip PS gamers it has to be more, because the first thing any PS gamer would say is, "Will MS keep this up?" which is an unanswerable question. We all know PS's reputation for first party development. MS needs to establish a track record for first party development consistency and high quality as well. That will not be done year 1-4 of this generation.

As much as XB fanboys would like to see XB outsell PS, it just is not realistically going to happen. What MS needs to do is establish that they are going to compete and try to compete with Sony. They did that right up until their first third party games reveal. They need to re-establish that in the first party games reveal.

[neutralgamer1992]

Have a semi professional event not a zoom call

Show games with gameplay coming either with the console launch(and those coming within the first 12-18 months)

You can talk about halo, gears and Forza but don't spend too much time and instead show new experiences (show halo since it's been a while since the last game)

This is your chance to convince ps4/switch owners who are looking at next gen to buy an xbox series x. Your last event left such a sour taste that sony didn't even have to do much to gain so much pr and momentum

Don't listen to the vocal minority who always praise Xbox and PlayStation. Focus your attention on the bigger piece of the pie. The vocal minority makes all the noise yet we the core gamers account for such a small percentage of overall gamers

[dumahim]

I agree that they shouldn't spend too much time on those games, but don't spend too much time on anything really. But do give us something. Forza is really going to have to show something that sets it apart from the past Motorsport titles because it's gone a bit stale and Horizon has overtaken it.

[DJStotty]

Its been 5 years since the last halo so i am looking forward to seeing infinite. I doubt we will see gears as gears 5 launched last year. And Forza could be another launch title, even though i doubt that as well.

[DJStotty]

@dumahim

Forza motorsport and Forza Horizon are different games.

Motorsport is your typical sim track racer, Horizon is an open world racer.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Also wanna add Deathloop and Ghost Wire are timed exclusive deals. Those games were suppose to hit Xbox and PC originally when they were announced. If Sony can get away wioth it, then MS needs to start doing it again. OThey don't need to be overly reliant on it like they were during the 360 generation, but the first year or two, again since Sony does it.

[RememberThe357]

I don't think it's about getting away with anything. MS has an opportunity to show that they're taking game production seriously. They spent the 360 years buying up timed exclusives and the Xbone years not really making many good games. This is their chance to prove they've turned a corner and they're ready the play hard ball. Some times exclusives wouldn't hurt but it just doesn't matter nearly as much as proving they're committed to actually making great games.

[DJStotty]

I do not want to see any timed deals.

Also Microsoft announced a few E3's ago they were withdrawing funding from timed deals to put the money into 1st party. That is the sole reason why Activision partnered with Sony for COD, because xbox binned them off.

[septemberindecember]

@Looper

There were quite a few timed exclusives that the Playstation showcase showed that weren't just indies. Such as: Godfall, Kena: Bridge of Spirits, Project Athia, Deathloop, and Ghostwire: Tokyo. I agree that timed exclusive deals aren't consumer friendly, but if Playstation can do it I feel Xbox can be competitive and do it too.

[Ausbo]

Deathloop, ghostwire, and project athia are not indie titles.

Microsoft timed exclusives=bad
Sony timed exclusive=good

Hypocrisy at its finest

[TheHan]

@Looper;

I agree with you but isn’t that hypocritical... If they did make timed exclusives then that’s their ore deal. Look at PlayStation they have no issues throwing money around for times exclusives... Though personally I feel that’s a bad business practice, cause who’s to say that those deals really generate a large difference in sales.

[Looper]

As long as it's not big publishers I don't mind. I don't like that Death Loop, Project Athia Ghostwire and Godfall are timed exclusive but I don't think Microsoft should stoop to Sony's level.

MS has cultivated a very consumer friendly standing in the industry of late and they should absolutely continue on that that trend.

If they want to fund a third party exclusive then that's okay but paying for a multiplatform game to skip a particular platform for a period is a scumbag move.

[ILostMyMind]

If you are a consumer of a brand, why would a deal from that brand be unfriendly to you?

[arminukxbox]

When Sony does it it’s consumer friendly ?

[Spenok]

Nothing consumer unfriendly about it.

[Knightofelemia]

Show off the games show off new franchises make people want to buy a Series X

[jerethdagryphon]

And new forzas halo gear is not longer really going to cut it Sony has done 8 or more ips each gen with some crossing gens ms has a few but none are really heavy hitters other then there big 3

[nibblo]

I'll eat my hat if all they show is Halo, Forza, and some type of Gears game. There are going to be at least 3 other AAA exclusives shown I reckon, if there isn't Xbox can officially give up on next gen.

[DJStotty]

Last Halo game : 2015
Last Gears game :2019
Last Forza game : 2017

That is 1 game every 2 years, enough of your "same 3 games nonsense"

Sony : Gran Turismo : 12 games in the franchise, should Sony focus on "New franchises"

[russo121]

This is their moment of truth. Show real gameplay, show the exclusives, show the price. No more wait wait wait. They must show their aces or will loose the bandwagon faster than an eye blink.

[RgR]

Yeah.
If they under perform then they've lost the market interest.
I have a feeling they will announce many new titles so that does not happen. With many of them as trailers only instead of gameplay.

They will likely throw money at other publishers to show their games at their event as well.

[nibblo]

They don't need to tell us price that can wait but gameplay and exclusives absolutely.

[LOGICWINS]

Leave no stone unturned
- Announce a $399 price for the Series X
- Start pre-orders on the same day
- Announce that XBL Gold will be merged into Game Pass at no additional cost
- Show gameplay demos of Hellblade 2, The Initiative’s new game, and the Fable reboot
- Announce that the new Splinter Cell will be exclusive to Xbox again
- Announce new Game Pass games (Resident Evil 2 and 3, along with all the missing Yakuza titles)
- Announce surprise studio acquisitions

[RazzerRedux]

"Announce that XBL Gold will be merged into Game Pass at no additional cost"

Will never happen

[LOGICWINS]

Then Microsoft will lose another generation and it would be their own fault.

[crazyCoconuts]

Why not? Couldn't they tier Game Pass & do away with the free games in lieu of the rental approach?

[DeadManMMX]

It’s going to happen the writing is on the wall. It’s to convoluted to explain.

[tontontam0]

- Announce new Game Pass games (Resident Evil 2 and 3, along with all the missing Yakuza titles)

ps4 gamers probably already owns these games they are offering on gamepass, and we are excited to play these titles on the ps5 through BC.

for MS to win they would need to convince ps4 gamers to jumpship, MS is not going to win by just retaining the current xbox gamers. sony wins by default if they retain their users.

[RazzerRedux]

@LOGICWINS

Losing the gen is less important than making money. That's why Xbox is still around. They are not beating PS but they are making money.

@crazyCoconuts

Why would Microsoft effectively give away every single first party game they make for free to Xbox Live Gold customers? Think about that. They didn't bring in all those studios just to give away the games they make. There has to be a revenue stream and merging into XLG is essentially removing a huge stream of revenue.

MS needs to bring more value to Game Pass with first party, first and foremost. At $10 it is already a great deal, but when the Initiative and PG add their games in, it will be a steal at $10. But then to just give it away. Phil Spencer would be out of a job.

[Marquinho]

MS already has Xbox Live Gold + Game Pass Console + Game Pass PC for 14.99USD a month. It's called "Game Pass Ultimate"

They have it all covered, and probably many people don't even know, so they should highlight the benefits of Game Pass as well.

[I_am_Batman]

Selling the Series X at $399 is almost certainly going to mean that they are losing a significant amount of money on every console sold. Cutting the cost on Game pass / XBL Gold would be suicidal in that situation as their revenue would decrease drastically when it would need to increase to make up for the losses. They'd need to take a huge chunk of the market share just to get the revenue back to the point it already is. Why would they prioritize market share so much?

If anything I expect Microsoft to slowly raise the gamepass prices and increase their revenue stream through their services. They've already made clear that they are focusing on expanding the ecosystem. If Sony allowed them to put their services on the Playstation they probably wouldn't even care how much the Series X sells.

[crazyCoconuts]

Good points. They've been saying services over hardware, so I don't think taking a bath on hardware is as important as getting people in bed with Game Pass. If they did away with free games and had a GanePass Basic tier that included online play, they should be able to cut down the library to get the price in line with Gold. Seems like they've been killing the free games slowly in terms of quality over the last year anyway.

[Marquinho]

You're missing an important point. That loss would only be for the first year or so, out of a 8 year life-cycle, as production costs lowers due to demand. The more consoles they sell, the best chance they have for new subscriptions, so in case they do sell it at such low price (and I'm sure they can) it would be an investment that could well pay off in the mid-long term.

[RememberThe357]

I don't really know how we can expect these console to come in under $499 at this point, but I hope I'm worng.

[Nitrowolf2]

isn't that called Gamepass ultimate?

[Z23ash]

Yes yes it is

[RazzerRedux]

Yeah....$15 instead of $10.

[Marquinho]

Which is still a hell of a deal. Also, you can catch legit deals from MS themselves every now and then for Gamepass and you can well end up paying around $100 a year for Ultimate, which contains Live ($60) + Regular Gamepass ($120) + PC Gamepass (Bundled)

Thanks to this, I'm subscribed until 2022.

[RazzerRedux]

"Also, you can catch legit deals from MS themselves every now and then"

lol....I just pay for PC Game Pass with MS Rewards and months when I don't have enough points, I just let GP expire and then renew for $1. So my out of pocket cost for every Xbox exclusive on PC is next to nothing.

[tontontam0]

For MS to win they would need to convince millions of ps4 gamers to jumpship to xbox when they upgrade.

Honestly I think there is no way they can do that, now that sony is promising ps4 bc.

[THC CELL]

Ms needs the last of us 🙂

[Minute Man 721]

Lots of gamers "abandoned" Xbox last gen because if the reveal.

You're talking about early adopters and a new console gen

[Charal]

All in all, it could summarized as “live up to expectations”.
Almost an impossible task in my opinion, PR was so much pumped, cloudy, confusing and contradictory that I am afraid that whatever they show it can not be sufficient.
Roughly, they insinuated that they will provide the best console ever, 4k60 and even 120fps, for the best value, 100% BC with all Xbox game ever released, with the cheapest game pass access, and a ton of new IPs.

To much talk before show, they will never learn.
Sony has done exactly the opposite with great success in PR side.

[Minute Man 721]

Sony needs to talk more, sell me the tech. Games will come

[dumahim]

@Minute Man 721
No, they don't need to talk. At least not for the sake of just saying something. Let them deliver instead of just talk.

[Imortus_san]

Game Pass is going to rise it's prece next year, 12,99€

[chiefJohn117]

Merge hold and GP at no extra cost? Not gonna happen at least no time soon. Maybe a few years from now. But there's no reason too ATM and imo would be stupid from a business standpoint. Gold and Gamepass have both been successful why would you give out GP free to gold owners? Outselling the competition is not worth going bankrupt for. If you're making no profit what the point of winning a gen?

[TheColbertinator]

All you need in order to win is have the best graphics and the new Halo game. It is what Microsoft has used to defeat Sony 3 generations in a row. The marketing writes itself.

[boing1]

If you think that's all they need then Xbox is in trouble. It's short sighted.

[boing1]

Master level then 😅

[THC CELL]

Halo done trust me

[sushimama]

hahahaha What? hahahaha lol man. Thank you

[gigzamillion]

"defeat Sony 3 generations in a row", LOL good stuff.

[RazzerRedux]

All I want to see are the games from Playground and the Initiative.

[nibblo]

While I'm very interested in what both those studios are doing I think we need to see more than that. Hopefully Compulsion, Undead Labs and Rare have something to show as well as it's been a while since they released games and I want to see more of Hellblade 2.
Maybe I'm setting my expectations too high lol.

[Minute Man 721]

Announce the date

[i3eyond the Circle]

They don’t have to do much tbh. I think of what we know of so far would put on a good show but that’s the awesome thing about it.. there so much mystery behind the titles and they’re usually good about 4k60 streams so I know it will be a top notch event.

Time will tell.

Dropping Gold for online play would honestly be the mic drop bombshell they need to catch all competitors with their dicks out... Microsoft started it... it’s only right they end it too as it should be.

[TheColbertinator]

Dropping Gold would be a master stroke. Haters would have their mouths shut and that would be quite the sight.

[neutralgamer1992]

i3eyond the Circle

Yeah the company that requires live to play free to play games and generates billions from the service will drop it because n4g logic

Both Sony and Ms will be losing money in hardware they are willing to do that because they can make money from subscriptions, digital sales, dlc and live-plus. If Ms were to do that sony would match it so it won't do much benefit to Xbox brand

[Ricegum]

"...they’re usually good about 4k60 streams so I know it will be a top notch event."

Was that a dig at Sony's event being 1080p? Because if so, the reason the PS5 reveal was in 1080p was due to resolution limits implemented due to the Coronavirus pandemic. The 4K videos were uploaded to YouTube immediately after.

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Nice try though.

[i3eyond the Circle]

Triggered eh? Considering the article is about what their event can do better. I’m pretty sure it applies. Now stfu and apply triage to where I hurt you.

Nice try though.

[Charal]

Highly impossible in my opinion.
Xbox business model is heavenly relying on subscriptions.
They can make it disappear by name, but we will still have to pay a sub to use all the features of the ecosystem.
Most likely they will emphase on smart delivery to trick us into thinking we got more for the same price.

[Kumakai]

Show hellblade II running on Unreal 5 (cuz that’s what it’s being built in) with zero load times. Somehow ppl think the less powerful ps5 has better graphics capabilities just bc of that demo.

Then show lots of other IP: More first party like forza, halo, perfect dark, fable, etc, some third party deals and the Series S, new gamepass/xcloud stuff. MS needs to really focus on quality 1st party this gen, Sony def won here for gen 8. MS already has the better stronger machine and great services like gamepass and Xbox live w/ high active user counts. (90 million Xbox live users vs 36 million ps plus users for example). They need to take advantage of that. Remove the gold requirement for multiplayer.

[IRetrouk]

Why are your numbers always so wrong?
Sony reported in Jan all the ps4 related numbers, https://ibb.co/sbSZSWy

They updated their psplus numbers in may,

https://www.theverge.com/20...

it's over 40 million subscribers now, why are you using all of lives active users vs only sonys ps plus members? Is it because ms dont report gold numbers maybe? Its actually 90 mill vs sonys 103 mill.

All ms has to do is show games running on their new system, that's it, they dont need to beat anybody but themselves.

[neutralgamer1992]

IRetrouk

He just loves Xbox and hates PlayStation atleast that's the trend I have seen with his comments. Over praise Xbox and under sell PlayStation

Btw he also said he worked for a company who did the last event for ms and there would be gameplay and first party titles

[IRetrouk]

I kinda remember that, said hed seen those games with his own eyes, and we would be blown away, or something like that, hard to keep track of some of the claims people make on here lol

[Ron_Danger]

I’m mostly confused about his comment about showing hellblade 2 running in Unreal 5... didn’t they say it isn’t available to devs until next year?

“ Unreal Engine 5 will be available in preview in early 2021, and in full release late in 2021”

https://www.businesswire.co...

For someone who “works in the industry” he sure seems like he posts a lot of opinions instead of facts.

[IRetrouk]

@ Ron I believe they are probably building in unreal 4 and then moving to unreal 5 when it's available, quote from your link.

"Epic is designing for forward compatibility, so developers can get started with next-gen development now in UE4 and move projects to UE5 when ready."

Probably what most teams using unreal 4 will do.

[Ron_Danger]

I got that bud. I’m just referring to the first line of his comment:

“ Show hellblade II running on Unreal 5 (cuz that’s what it’s being built in)”

For now all they can do is show simulated images or target renders of what U5 can do.

[IRetrouk]

Ahh following you now bud, good point.

[buffig]

You're not going to get zero load times. They already demoed pub g loading on the series x. Took around 10 seconds to load a level. Much faster than the Xbox one, but nowhere near instant

[SierraGuy]

That's because the SX SSD is too slow!!!!

[Ricegum]

"90 million Xbox live users vs 36 million ps plus users for example."

Dear oh dear, what on earth. If those numbers were anywhere near accurate it is due to the inclusion of inactive and Silver accounts.

[RazzerRedux]

"Show hellblade II running on Unreal 5 (cuz that’s what it’s being built in) with zero load times. Somehow ppl think the less powerful ps5 has better graphics capabilities just bc of that demo."

lol...."some people" think whatever you want to say since those people are not here to correct you.

You, on the other hand, have falsely stated many time that the XSX is 30% more powerful. Not based on a demo or anything else. At least that demo was actually running on a PS5 and not suped up PCs.

[boing1]

And somehow people still think that 16% power difference will give them double the framerates of PS5.

[Charal]

Amen. My point also from the beginning of next gen talks.
But well, some will never rely on common sense.

[Poopmist]

Get ready for endless Forza 8 vs GT 7 comparisons

[neutralgamer1992]

Sadly before even next gen consoles are out it's already turning ugly

We can't even enjoy our hobby or favorite platform without someone the need to bring negativity into it

[RpgSama]

The silly thing is that Xbox users will be praising the performance of THIS gen games upgraded for next gen and taking Xbox One games that runs at 4K X 60fps on the Series X as a win (I can already see the articles about Halo Infinite running at 4K native x 60fps on the Series X, of course it does, it's an upgraded game being built to work on the original 2013 Xbox One) , while downplaying the performance of actual next-gen games on the PS5 that don't hit those numbers.

[RamRod88]

Focus on the games and really nothing else. Make sure to show extensive gameplay of Halo Infinite. Show what Playground and The Initiative are working on. Show Hellblade 2, Forza 8, Everwild, Flight Sim, and any other first party games. Show what Xbox publishing is up to. Show exactly what games will be ready at launch when you buy an XSX, and games within the first launch year. Of course show 3rd party games too. I think a mic drop moment would be showing Obsidians new AAA game.

[on_line_forever]

Ryse was good

[TheTony316]

Just show good exclusives running on the actual console. A couple of new franchises would be nice.

[ForwardDude]

Psychonauts 2! I want to see Psychonauts 2!

[Charal]

Show us how MS is going to make SX show relevant after Spencer interview saying next gen benefits cannot be shown on streamed event, but must be “felt”.

[Minute Man 721]

"Felt" as in 60fps constant, 120fps sometimes

[Ron_Danger]

So... seen?

[Charal]

Yeah sure, 120fps none sense again.
Curious to see how many house use their console on 120Hz or 144hz screens.

[Rhythmattic]

Their is no console war.
Why fight over a console games that aren't only available for consoles?
Xbox is no longer a console. Its a service.
No war needed.

[jznrpg]

Only a miracle ... and I’m sure miracles won’t be wasted on Xbox :P

[GamingSinceForever]

These journalists need to let go of the idea that MS has any chance of passing up Sony in this industry. Sony is the at the top of the industry and is showing no signs of slowing down. Hell MS has to be better than Nintendo before they can even come close to dethroning.

Also the price will not matter in Sony's case. They could come at a price $100 higher than the XBOX and will still sell like crazy because people understand that it will be supported with quality games. MS can continue making these super consoles, but it won't mean anything until they can prove to consistently bring quality software. It will take at least another generation for them to prove that.

[Minute Man 721]

Price don't matter????
Looking @ the 3DO n PS3

[SierraGuy]

PS3 sold more than 360 in the end.

[Ron_Danger]

I think you meant 3DO and Jaguar. The PS3 was a steal if you understood what you were getting. At launch the $600 PS3 had full backwards compatibility, several different memory stick inputs, hdmi standard, Bluetooth, WiFi, and Blu-ray. Whereas a strait Blu-ray player ran for $1000 in the same timeframe.

Research first, then troll.

Educated consumers understand price for value... fanboys fall for PR

[Minute Man 721]

@ Ron_Danger

Blu Ray????

I understood what exactly I was getting with the PS3, overhyped tech. Cell was trash. Why would anyone make a chipset that was hard to harness it's power? Damage control was in full swing last gen. And Sony had to drop the price, people wanted a game console not a Blu Ray player. Remember the Emotion Engine hype for the PS2? Loved the PS2 but it was graphically outdated by the 3rd year. Still love the games that Sony Studios make and look at my profile before calling me a fanboy, ok fanboy?

[chiefJohn117]

Sony didn't set a very high bar I gave it around 7/10. Live up to 75% of the expectation and they'll do it.

[Mr_cheese]

Im just going to throw this out there and say that it can't be revealed because they've both now revealed their consoles.

What they can now do is learn, improve and take on board.

If one succeeds and the other doesnt lwarn and try to better that, they've wasted an opportunity.

[Abnor_Mal]

Make new interesting first party games, which is something they've been needing for a while now.

Also I think a new controller that can go against the DualSense from Sony. If this gen is all about feeling your games then they should do more with the adaptive triggers. I'm sure there's something in the works, possibly an elite series 3 to feel the road, or trigger pull. Not sure how you can feel 4K 60/120.

[Minute Man 721]

Never gamed @ 60fps? Give CoD a try

[masterfox]

Do a Barrelroll :P

[MWH]

More Games, period.

[buffig]

As long as all the games come to PC and or Gamepass, I'll be fine. Edit: I just got back from the future. Turns out I'll be fine

[Minute Man 721]

Get me them Powerball numbers 😂😂

[tinchotin]

Travel in time to 20 years ago, hire good studios and let them do the best games they can without getting in their way with forced ideas.

[YourMommySpoils]

Now I know why Senua screams like a maniac in the cinematic trailer. Cause she's sold over to be a flop. XD

[PyroMessiah86]

Everything. They need to do everything.

- Come out swinging with plenty of new 1st party reveals
- Halo Infinite needs to nail Story and MP and push the envelope. I think it will.
- Do away with Gold. Free multiplayer. Games with Gold gets merged into a Gamepass Feature.
- Let's see that lovely 4k 60fps and some more games at 120fps.
- Lots more.
- Show off an indepth Backwards Compatibility segment with HDR examples.
- Show off VRS and Velocity Architecture

[DaniMacYo]

Just concede.

[Godmars290]

Lie - I mean - over promise.

[Yusi-D-Jordan]

As a Sony guy, I hope Microsoft brings it. Competition is good for us gamers because it forces developers to keep being innovative.

I personally want to see a next gen Halo and Gears of War. Also, I own a gamer PC so I get to play those games too - please kick ass, Microsoft!

[HaVoK308]

I thought the PS5 reveal was terrible. It was like a cute-a-thon. Created by blue haired leftist who identify as animals. I’ll end up owing both new consoles like a always do. But I’m pretty sure at this point that new Xbox will be my primary platform. Whereas this gen it was the PS4. For me MS is in the lead rather easily.

[anast]

They can't do anything to win. Their corner needs to throw in the towel.

[derek]

Show great games nothing else really matters.

[Father__Merrin]

How pathetic is this. It was only a ps5 reveal they have yet to show extended gameplay and previews. Microsoft has already revealed so all they can do is show more games, but Sony will also shortly show more ps5 previews. Seems a little desperate this now

[RamRod88]

Are you already making excuses if Xbox's event is better than Sony's before Xbox has their event? Lmao.

[Ninver]

There's nothing they can do. Sony's presence in the gaming industry is just too strong for MS to compete with. Next gen will be no different from the current.

[quenomamen]

Show more than 8 games ?

[AK91]

Games, so in other words they're stuffed.

[neomahi]

Think for themselves and quit trying to be first, foul it up, watch Sony casually walk in after them and blow the doors off, and then have to do another event a month later duplicating what Sony did to try and take back their first mistake, Microsoft just reacts, they don't think and you get events like July when they should've done it right in May the first time. They're cowards.

[Bathyj]

Show me 10 minutes of crimson Sky gameplay footage and I'll buy an Xbox

[arminukxbox]

I wasn’t even impressed by Sony event I’m sure Microsoft will beat them

[Brazz]

a miracle... and than $199 price.

[DJStotty]

To be honest they only need to beat 3 of Sony's games, GT7, ratchet and clank, and Horizon 2. Most of the other games were average looking.

A new Forza, Halo Infinite and Hellblade 2 could steal the show, and then throw in a new Fable, and what the new studios are working on and it could be a decent showing.

[DJStotty]

All they have to do is show games in Native 4k 60fps, beats the Sony reveal with just that as most of their games were 30fps.

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

[DJStotty]

Just imagine if they end the show with £399.99, pre-order now!!! I would leak a little.

[Einhander1971]

A miracle😂😂

[RosweeSon]

Stop talking and start releasing.

[FyBy]

Buy Sony.

[dan323]

They can't do nothing to beat Sony. I mean Sony already won many people's money with games.

[Xavi4K]

show games even if its 5 years away before release...sony did that and it worked well for them so why not microsoft

[Minus2trill]

I feel they need focus on future games, not gimmicks like this gen strictly games. Just learn from there mistakes. And think they need to stop focusing on this backward compatible stuff we already know you can play all Xbox games on the xsx. Show off your new games from your new studios and let consumers choose.