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Why A PC Could Be The Best Choice For The Next Generation

For many people, the big choice this year is whether to buy a PlayStation 5 or the Xbox Series X.

I'm here to make the argument for another, arguably better, alternative.

The mighty gaming PC.

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ABizzel11834d ago

I mean for Xbox gaming that's a legitimate choice because you can play all their games at whatever framerate you want (depending on hardware) and get GamePass as well.

With the upcoming GPUs from NVIDIA and AMD, a $700 gaming PC should slightly exceed the next-gen console's performance in all areas except SSD this holiday. A lot of my Xbox gaming friends are building PC's this gen, and getting PS5's for exclusives and IMO it's a better combination just because you also get to experiment with the PC exclusives, mod games, and more.

There's a mod that lets you play as Kitana vs Spawn in Resident Evil with Spawn being Nemesis. It's cool things like that for free that make PC worth the investment, as well as free online, cheaper games, emulation if that's your thing, and mods on top of mods from making superior graphics settings to completely changing the game world offering near infinite gameplay diversity and experiences.

And you can connect your PC to your TV get a controller and play just like your would on a console if mouse, monitor, and keyboard isn't your thing. I'm excited about the Series X and Series S, but in the end, I'm also upgrading my PC and going that route, especially if crossplay becomes more universal in multiplatform games.

purple1011834d ago (Edited 1834d ago )

Good point you make about the games are cheaper. And the online free.

Often free games on epic/steam /various other stores too.

So overall works out about the same.

Skuletor1834d ago

A lot of people don't seem to get that last part. I have a PC in my lounge and an HDMI running under the rug to the TV, so I can switch between playing at my desk or using a wireless Xbox One controller from my couch.
Steam big picture mode makes it all easy to navigate with just a controller and if you want, you can even set your PC to boot directly to Steam big picture mode and use it just for games, which I've done with a PC in the past.

PC gaming doesn't have to mean just one player either, I've got two controllers hooked up and play fighting games, local co-op, split screen verse games etc

PC has some of the best deals on games too and you don't have to pay for a subscription to play games online that you already paid for. I'll still be getting a PS5 though

anonymousfan1834d ago

Sadly though a lot of games still don't come with proper splitscreen support on PC... My favorite couch coop games this gen were Minecraft, Borderlands and Black Ops III (4 player local coop)

TGADjMessiah1834d ago

What kind of build would you recommend for $700 that would exceed the next-gen consoles? Genuinely asking, not trolling.

I roughly priced one up, and it came to over £1200.

If we talk GPU teraflops (I know that's not the only performance metric, but as a guide), the Series X at 12 TFlops is comparable then with a RTX2080 Super @ 11.15 TFlops. In the UK, a 2080 super is around £600-700 alone.

Am I overestimating the performance of the new console's GPU's, or should I compare like for like with the Big Navi and RTX30xx GPU's when they arrive?

ocelot071834d ago

You are over estimating. For example here is a and liquid cool Vega 64 is 13.4tflops I believe. Yet gets destroyed by the RTX 2080 which is what 11tf?

TGADjMessiah1834d ago

Thanks for the reply ocelot07. I'm very interested to know what build will end up producing similar (or preferably higher) performance than the PS5 and Series X. Even speccing a system with a 2060 I struggle to get a satisfactory build planned for under £1000.

That's the problem with shopping for PC parts, I start out with a budget of £1300 and by the time I'm done choosing parts we're up to £3000 or more hahaha. There's always something better!

ABizzel11833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

@TGAD

The Series X is on par with a RTX 2080, and the PS5 is on par at worst with an RTX 2070 and at best a RTX 2070s depending on sustained clock speeds so you can never really compare TFLOPS between NVIDIA and AMD GPUs. That being said the $700 price I came up with is here in the United States, and it's not going to get to that price until we get closer to the console launches in November and December and as you said once the new CPUs release from AMD (Zen 3) and the new GPUs release for NVIDIA and AMD.

At that point current-gen parts will go down in price as they're eventually discontinued.

My recommendation at that point would be:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 should be less than $150 (160 now)
GPU: RTX 2070 equivalent GPU or higher should have a starting price of $300 ($400 now)
MB: B450 / B550 (B450 is still more than enough, especially if you go with Zen 2) $70
RAM: 16GB DDR4 at least 3000 MHz (2x8GB) should be $50
Case: Any Budget Case will work, $30 - $50
PSU: Any 400w - 500w 80+ PSU will work, $50
SSD: Just about any 500GB / 1TB regular SSD, NVMe isn't fully taken advantage of in PC gaming yet, so it doesn't make sense to spend more on a PCIe 4.0 NVMe just yet for a mid-range build IMO. $50

That's your full gaming PC and $720, especially around the holiday season / black friday, and again it depends on what AMD and NVIDIA bring with their new GPUs and what price they aim for, especially on the NVIDIA side with DLSS now being insanely better solution offering near parallel 4K image quality with 1080p / 1440p performance levels.

If you're looking to build a brand new gaming PC, wait for the new CPUs and GPUs, and for holiday price drops. You will literally save hundreds for a build you would have made just 3 months before.

ABizzel11833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

@TGAD

I'm not sure about EU prices compared to the US, but apparently this is a good site people on reddit recommend for buying PC parts in EU.

mindfactory.de
Recommended by reddit

https://www.newegg.com/
This is a good one in the US, and they ship to the United Kingdom and Turkey, but I'm not sure on shipping cost. Click the flag icon.

https://www.aliexpress.com/...
AliExpress is generally good as well, just make sure you know what you're looking for and click th elittle flag icon to change to your country.

I'm not sure if you guys have huge holiday sales like we do, but check around November / December for the best prices.

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Hungryalpaca1833d ago

I have my PC for multiplats and my soon to be ps5 for exclusives. Been that way for me since I built my first pc in 2006

jeromeface1833d ago

There's not enough exclusives on xbox to justify the hardware if you have a gaming pc. You're much better off going playstation / PC instead.

ABizzel11833d ago

On a side note this is been the most pleasant discussion on console vs console vs console vs PC I've ever seen on here, since it doesn't have PS5 / SX in the headline, and this is how all discussions should be.

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RazzerRedux1834d ago

Good article. And very accurate. The upfront cost are what scare many, but the savings after that can make up much of the difference. The free online play alone will save you $50 a year. That's $500 a decade. Then there are the multitude of game sales from a multitude of stores all competing for your business vs the walled garden's of consoles. Of course, consoles still have physical and the used market, but digital purchases have become more popular.

But the other side of this is how you play. Many want a simple plug and play setup in their living room where a PC doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't want to balance a keyboard and mouse on my lap on the couch. And I don't want to reduce the PC to simply being a gaming machine and nothing else, wasting all the other reasons for owning a PC. No, PC makes more sense at a desk with a keyboard and mouse. Bottom line: console is the superior living room experience and that is something PC has a hard time competing with.

Games1st1834d ago (Edited 1834d ago )

You can use a lapboard for keys and noise and stream to living room with steam link app.

nowitzki20041834d ago

PC has been my choice since last gen, but still want to add that PS5 to my library.

AK911833d ago

In terms of quality yes but in terms of price no. It's why I left PC gaming.

Hungryalpaca1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

Then you were doing it wrong. PC is far cheaper in the long run. The not paying online saves you $50 a year right off the bat plus all the discounts on games day 1. Games are cheaper on pc.

I got AC Odyssey on Pc release day for $30. Same with modern warfare and a couple other titles.

Plus keyboards and mice (not the cheap ones) are built to last for years. I’ve had the same keyboard and mouse for 10 years now. Each so sole generation I have to buy multiple controllers and pay for subscriptions.

jeromeface1833d ago

Lol, consoles are just low end pc's with higher software / accessory costs. Enjoy replacing your cheap console every 3 years.

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Dune: Awakening - 1,000,000 Players Awakened

Funcom: "Greetings Sleepers,

Dune: Awakening launched June 10th and 1,000,000 players have awakened! It’s now Funcom’s fastest selling game ever. To put it into perspective, it took Conan Exiles one year to reach this number. We’re truly humbled and thankful for this reception."

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lukasmain3h ago

Well done. No doubt the game will get better over time as well.

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PSVR 2's Tipping Point: Will There be a PSVR 3?

The PSVR 2 is a fantastic piece of kit, held back by a lack of software support. With this in mind, will we ever see a PSVR 3?

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Jingsing13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

PSVR1 sold around 10 million and PSVR2 sold around 1 million. I don't see any logical room for a PSVR3 unless they have something special. PSVR was basically PS Move for Sony, hedging their bets just in case VR was a mass market product, but it clearly wasn't. With news of Quest 3/s sales faltering badly and question marks over there even being a Quest 4 I highly doubt a PSVR3 is even being considered.

kevco3313h ago

The question marks over the Quest 4 are 'when', not 'if'. Meta's new approach is smart glasses, putting a longer divide between Quest iterations. This is a good move, in my opinion. It will lead to eventual convergence of AR and VR.

lukasmain3h ago

It will be a big market as soon as they can have a completely wireless setup. When they can do that, it will be much better.

thorstein2h ago

PSVR2 sold 600,000 units in its first six weeks. It continues to be updated and supported. Latest update was this week.

Profchaos2h ago

From what I recall psvr2 was at around 4 million shortly after launch

Yesyes1h ago

Yeah no chance. Loved PSVR1 but not much to play on VR2. I’m only keeping it in the extremely faint hope that Half Life Alyx is announced.

crazyCoconuts1h ago

Not sure about the numbers, but I'm sure they're not stellar.
And with Yoshida's parting comments on how the entrenched leaders view PSVR it would be a big surprise if they were planning on another iteration next gen. Such a shame- I feel like they lost that innovative spirit

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GotGame81811h ago

I doubt it, and PS2 VR is so good, I hope Sony continues to develop for it on PS6. Why not. They can expand the install base over this Gen into next.

Neonridr8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

given how quickly Sony themselves abandoned support for the headset, I don't see them taking another crack anytime in the near future. PSVR2 was so much more technically sound and delivered a much better experience over the previous model, but I think VR is losing its steam and many people were turned off from the first headset after it delivered somewhat underwhelming experiences due to the limitations of the original device.

I love VR and will continue to support it, but I'd be surprised to see a PSVR3 anytime soon.

lukasmain3h ago

VR needs to be completely wireless and a super easy plug and play. When they can do that, it will be a lot more successful.

darthv722h ago

IF there is to be a VR3, it needs to address the biggest missed opportunity that Sony is guilty of with VR2. that is it needs to support ALL of their VR titles, no matter what. The lack of full VR1 support for VR2 cannot be under stated. And even in the face of declining VR2 sales... Sony STILL has not taken the opportunity to address this omission.

I'd definitely get a VR3 if it supported not only its own but all of their previous works as well. Wireless certainly would be welcome reason as well.

Profchaos2h ago

Im a psvr2 owner I love it but I wouldn't buy a psvr 3 unless Sony made a real commitment to supporting it via games

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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Splintered Fate Co-op Review [Co-Optimus]

"A few years ago, a mobile game developer called Super Evil Megacorp had the brilliant idea of making a TMNT roguelike. After first releasing it on Apple Arcade, they wisely recognized the game’s potential on other platforms. TMNT: Splintered Fate has slowly but surely come to all major platforms, finally arriving on Xbox today. Not only is Splintered Fate a fine roguelike and co-op game, but it’s also one of the best TMNT games ever made," says Co-Optimus.

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