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Rockstar Have Finally Traded-In Their Reputation For Money

Andrew says: "This is the stark contrast between their last two decades of work. The first decade was about building a foundation, forging a legacy. The last nine years have obviously seen a humongous drop-off in terms of output, and shifted their philosophy towards “quality over quantity."

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Skuletor1427d ago

No, they already did that years ago

littletad1426d ago

Now we know why one of the founders left. Perhaps he didn't like the direction anymore.

b163o11426d ago (Edited 1426d ago )

I feel as if Ol'Dan (Houser) is going to start his own company. Perhaps he'll link back up with Leslie Benzies, and make a better game...

roadkillers1426d ago

Isn't it funny how the media makes their own stories why people leave. Everybody wants to create a story... how is the media and people making stuff up in the comments is any different from what Rockstar is doing?

Lon3wolf1426d ago

Was going to say the same thing, as soon as they abandoned any SP DLC for GTA is when I reckon it started.

Godmars2901426d ago

Yeah, was thinking that was *AGES* ago.

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dumahim1426d ago

Funny thing is, the money they're making is what affords them to take forever to make the games they do to the level that few could possibly match.

Pyrofire951425d ago

Well yeah. That's what the article ends up being about. Bad name for the article tbh.

shuvam091425d ago

Several years between games, and none too likeable at that...

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FallenAngel19841426d ago

A whole generation going by and them releasing only one new game for the entirety of it while all their other IPs go dormant didn’t clue you in?

Where have you been since 2014?

FITSniper1426d ago

Same can be said of CDPR. While they released Gwent and the Tales game, those weren't anywhere near a massive effort that Witcher 3 was. Now yes, Rockstar though has seemed focus heavily on the MP component of their games which has driven crazy revenue to them. Not that that's a bad thing. More power to them. I just ask they keep the SP experiences coming to. It's easy to see why RDR2 took so long. The game was utterly massive.

Vegamyster1426d ago

CDPR will have Cyberpunk 2077 out this year, that’s two massive games this gen, two large DLC expansions plus a bunch of smaller games, they’re in no way comparable lol.

Movefasta19931426d ago

Those two dlc individually have more depth and longevity then a lot of games.

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JEECE1426d ago

It's cool to hate on Rockstar now, so people don't want to admit that a lot of major studios have significantly slowed down in terms of output this gen. Sony Santa Monica only put out one game this gen, and they get praised for it. Guerrilla only made two, and one was a launch game. If you don't count remasters of last gen games, Naughty Dog will only have two games, even though they had four last gen.

Also, people will get mad and blast you if you put out too many games. So really there's no way to win. If gamers decide you are a bad evil company, you are going to get attacked regardless of the quality of your games.

SamPao1425d ago

@JEECE well. ND actually made 3, you know, lost legacy. I mean it takes as long to beat that game as the old uncharted games. So yeah its not really a way to measure things.
Because games got longer. I mean god of war is like 3 times longer than any old god of war no?

JEECE1425d ago

@SamPao

It seems like a reach to count Lost Legacy as a full game. However, putting that aside, it seems like from your comments on God of War, you actually agree with my point. My point was that as games have become bigger and more detailed, it is natural for studios to slow down on the number of releases per generation. My point is that people won't apply the arguments they use against Rockstar to other devs who have slowed down new releases just as much as they have.

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FallenAngel19841425d ago

@ Fit

Are you really comparing CDPR to a behemoth like Rockstar?

@ Jeece

Are you really comparing the output of developers to an entire publisher?

Nobody criticizes any publisher for releasing a lot of games, so there’s no damage controlling this.

JEECE1425d ago (Edited 1425d ago )

I'm not comparing to all of Take-Two, no. And there have been plenty of other Take-Two releases this gen.

"Nobody criticizes any publisher for releasing a lot of games."

This might be my favorite thing I've ever seen on this site. People frequently criticize publishers for releasing too many games.

FallenAngel19841425d ago

I’m not referring to Take-Two as a whole, just Rockstar

I’ve yet to see people complaining about a publisher releasing a ton of games. Even if that hypothetically was an actual thing that still wouldn’t be a problem

goldwyncq1425d ago

That one game took over 8 years to develop and is among the best games ever created.

Tyler Durden1425d ago (Edited 1425d ago )

@ goldwyncq Its really not. Besides the feel of the world and the look of it, theres really nothing all that ground breaking. In fact, most people dont even finish it because its so tedious and boring.

goldwyncq1425d ago

The quality of the writing, the AI, and the unprecedented level of world interactivity and immersion makes it one of the best games ever created and its 97 Metacritic score is easily proof of that.

Just because it doesn't cater to the Fortnite/COD crowd who prefers nonstop action over slow-burn character development doesn't mean it's not a great game.

Tyler Durden1425d ago (Edited 1425d ago )

I already conceded that the world design is groundbreaking. But the writing is abysmal. The characters are not very interesting at all and the story is all over the place. I dont think ive ever meet someone who played GTA 5 for the story. Metacritic score means bery little in this day and age with the state of gsming journalism. I would argue that GTA 5 is actually caters MORE to the COD and Fortnite crowd and thats why its become shallow.

JEECE1425d ago

If someone can't acknowledge this, there is almost no point in having a discussion with them. The amount that gamers take for granted is truly staggering. Rockstar is one of those devs that people now take for granted because of their own enormous achievements (Bethesda Game Studios being another). People don't compare them against any other studio actually in existence, but rather against an ideal scenario in their head of a studio that puts an RDR2-quality game out every 2-3 years, which is not a thing that exists.

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BigBosss1426d ago

Greed has poisoned mens soul -Charlie Chaplin

V3geta1426d ago

No one gets into business for any other reason than making money.

Ristul1425d ago (Edited 1425d ago )

Some people invest time and money in companies in order to do what they love, making money is just a means to an end - so that they can keep doing what their passionate about.

Then there are those that invest their time and money with only the drive to make more money.

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KingofGambling1424d ago

Marriage is fine as an institution, but bad as a habit - Buster Keaton.
I know its got nothing do with the article. It's just I saw you quoted a comedy legend, so I quoted one too.

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ClayRules20121426d ago

Years ago, Rockstar did this. It’s a darn shame too.

I mean, as much as I personally loved GTA5’s campaign & Multiplayer as an overall package, and thought they delivered a very good multiplayer mode, I wanted some SP DLC, which would’ve made them plenty of millions alone in that itself. No doubt gamers would’ve bought, as I’ve seen from so many who’ve expressed disappointment from it not having happened. But what can you do? Rockstar see many are just buying to darn “Shark cards” and the company’s made so much money its absolutely sickening.

Now, looking at Rockstar’s quality of games, I do believe they’re still at the top tier in the industry, no doubt about it. Their production values, work, story, and gameplay (yes I said gameplay) for me was very good/solid in RDR2. I loved the realistic approach and slowness of everything pretty much in the game, although I know many didn’t, which I do understand and that’s fair. But its a shame their focus on GTA5’s online has driven them to shift focus to not online putting so much focus on that which takes away from their other IPs like Max Payne, Bully, Manhunt and so on, but only getting one game per the last 2 generations from them.

I sure do hope the PS5 will be a real change for Rockstar to bring out more than one game (not remastered GTA5 for PS5/Xbox series X) but multiple IPs this console generation. I won’t hold my breath tho.

rpvenom1426d ago

I think what we need.. is a GTAO killer or next GTA clone that surpasses GTA.. I know it's unlikely but hopefully someone new can step in the ring and dethrone them to make them want to release good games again.

ClayRules20121426d ago

Yeah, that’d be nice. I’d be all for that. Some company that’d bring real competition to Rockstar’s GTA. Because we all know “Watch Dog”s didn’t do that lol. But I’m anxious to see how that WD’s legion turns out.

Kabaneri1426d ago

Maybe if Saints Row went back to its roots.

GameZenith1426d ago

I think the Cyberpunk 2077 online component will be big. Also Cyberpunk 2077 while not get the same amount of sales as GTA, will certainly out do RDR2 and many people will start proclaiming CDPR as the new king of the open world experience. Again, not taking damage to Rockstar sales but they will feel it with their reputation.

This along with the inevitable Witcher 4 coming off of the success or CP2077 will be enough to light a fire under Rockstar.

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai16h ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga7h ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

ravens5211h ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_6h ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

KwietStorm_BLM6h ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

NotoriousWhiz10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_6h ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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Former Deviation Games Devs Have Formed A New Studio At PlayStation To Work On A New IP

Former Deviation Games developers have formed a new studio at Sony Interactive Entertainment in order to work on a brand new PlayStation IP.

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Tacoboto1d 3h ago

Well that's an awesome and very surprising turnaround. Cheers to the new studio and what they'll build!

RaidenBlack1d ago

Likely to continue their FPS project

Cacabunga12h ago

It is not about money it is about talent.. get that talent in and they will take care of you and earn you that money

Eonjay12h ago

I had picked up on this before the Deviation shutdown was announced. It was pointed out that a senior manager of the team had joined PlayStation prior to the close. It was a little suspicious because from the outside in, it appeared had basically poached Deviation's talent.

Reading some of the other comments it seems this is understood to be the case.

In other news it would be wild if Sony winds up announcing a brand new internal studio.

isarai22h ago

That's..... confusing, so shut down but just reformed and same employer 🤔 sounds like pretty much what happened to Japan Studio basically just being rebranded as Asobi

ocelot0722h ago

It is odd one I don't know how business deals work or the law of that kind of stuff. But is it possible Sony reached out and said hey we want you apart of Sony but don't want to purchase you for what ever reason. How about use disband and we will open a studio and hire you guys type of thing. Is that even possible?

isarai21h ago

Maybe it's to void/bypass some contract? I have no clue

VersusDMC17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

I guess the deviation team fell apart and didn't deliver good progress on what they pitched (they overhyped themselves when the team was announced)so Sony shut them down. They regrouped with a new team and a new pitch so Sony is giving them another shot.

And this time they are keeping it quiet to keep pressure down on the team. So people aren't asking everyday what deviation(or whatever the new team is called) is doing.

Edit: Also Sony never owned them. They just ended their partnership with them. Deviation decided to close on their own.

outsider162417h ago

Good point. You know, i was thinking of Days Gone too. They pitch an idea to Sony for Days Gone 2 but Sony didnt like it do they scrapped the whole thing. Maybe if a good pitch came by...they'd reconsider it.

isarai16h ago

That makes a bit more sense

lodossrage15h ago

To be fair, Sony didn't shut them down. Devation was independent. Sony pulled funding on the project they were working on. As a result, they couldn't run so Devation decided to close on their own.

MrBaskerville12h ago

Maybe it's a good team but sony changed plans?

Plague-Doctor275h ago

https://imgur.com/HhYbZDi

The management at Deviation was reportedly a problem. Sony cut their funding and when the studio layoffs began they bought the talent back up

Lightning775h ago

It's probably cheaper to grab the talent than to anage a full studio as a second party.

Maybe we see the game at the PS showcase?

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roboteye17h ago

If this was MS they'd be gone.

Goodguy0117h ago

Maybe make a smaller game this time?

Elda16h ago

Good for them that they were able to work it out. Hopefully they're developing something interesting.

Rainbowcookie16h ago

I think Sony is thinking long term as a replacement for Call of Duty M$ edition.

lodossrage8h ago

If they can pull off at least 2 more games similar to Helldivers 2 they won't have to worry about that COD deal anymore (my personal opinion, not fact)

-Foxtrot6h ago

The best thing they can do is make something old school based

The issue with COD is that it's so over the top and arcade like now where it feels more like you are relying on gimmicks and what you've unlocked rather than skill.

If they can create an old school like first person shooter where "less is more" and not a game that relies on a drip feed road map then they'll get some attention.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188123h ago(Edited 23h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2314h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos4h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb333h ago

i think you are really missing the point

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SonyStyled19h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies7h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k423h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot22h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

Jon615863h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

RNTody22h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead12h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage5h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast22h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn197921h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage5h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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