343i planned to conquer E3 2020: 'It was our big year to own the show'

343i had big plans to steal E3 2020 with a huge Halo: Infinite reveal showcase

[rlow1]

Can't wait for Halo reveal. I'm hoping they nail it.

[crazyCoconuts]

I'm confident they will. We won't know how good the campaign is until reviews come in, but I'm sure 343 will make Halo look stunning on the XSX, and have some fun gameplay lined up for us.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I have been more critical of many reviews. Halo 5 seemed to get overly slammed for its story.I felt the missions for the most part (excluding the Breaking) where well designed. With Swords of Sanghelios, Battle of Suasion and Blue Team being some the best levels in the series in my opinion. Conversely, Battlefield 1,a title i personally think had a terrible campaign, received "free" praise for being set in WW1.

[Bruh]

@Vulgaris

The campaign was way too short with its best moments just being cutscenes. It was bad and absolute trash by Halo standards.

[chiefJohn117]

Bruh say what you want about the campaign but it definitely wasn't short. It was one of the longer halo campaigns.

[bouzebbal]

Lol yeah they never did anything and now that the e3 is cancelled they were planning to kill it 🤣
They still didn't understand they should stop overhyping things.. Those people will never learn

[Shadowsteal]

It'll never be as spectacular as we'd want it to be if it can run on the original Xbox.

So in essence no real next gen features or enhancements.

[CaptainCook]

343 Studio had a budget over $500 million dollars. Its going to be the most expensive game created

[RazzerRedux]

$200 million more than Star Citizen?

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

That rumoured, or more likely falsified $ 500 million budget is certainly not true. It’s not verifiable. Big game sites like IGN, Gamespot and Eurogamer didn’t report it , due to a lack of sources for the claimed $500 million budget. It is not practical for a game to have a budget that high.

[I_am_Batman]

That would require more than 10 million sales to break even. That would be incredibly risky and might backfire really hard if it ends up being anything but a masterpiece. And even then profit would not be guaranteed. I also don't even know why a video game would ever be that expensive. Most of the costs are manhours and licenses and marketing.

Considering the game has a ~5 year dev cycle such a budget simply doesn't make sense unless they cast every hollywood actor known to men or build a real halo array to market the game.

[chiefJohn117]

There's no doubt in my mind they will. Biggest budget ever, most dev time ever, more feedback than ever. Now as halo fans we critical of everything including the smallest things such as a design change lol and the fanbase is split on direction as some want a halo 2/3 clone while other want it to move forward like Halo 5 did.(I'm praying the stick with the halo 5 clamber/smart scope/sprint mechanics) so by default they're gonna piss someone off you can't please everyone in this fanbase but build a great MP with all expected content at launch (halo launching without forge and few maps alone hurt it's reviews) and build a great story to the level of halo 1-4. Give us 4s emotion, with 3s scale, and 2s length and CEs wonder

[ColdSin]

I think if they improve upon mythic arena's gameplay, we will get something really really special that isnt that polarizing.

[Sayai jin]

I have been tired of Halo since Halo 3 honestly. I know many are still excited. I just think they need to find another flagship title other than Halo and Gears!

[Dissidia]

Halo's been gone for 5 years. If you're tired of it that's fine but 343i was established to make Halo games. They will keep doing so. Gears 5 was critically well received and said to have been a series revitalization.

Are you tired of God of War? It has 8 games, the most recent being a reboot of sorts.

"I really wish Sony would find more flagship titles other than God of War and Naughty Dog games." See how dumb that sounds.

Are you tired of Mario? There are 256 games

Why does Halo get hate or need to stop because of the opinions of people who are no longer fans or never were and never will be? The world may never know.

[PyroMessiah86]

Halo 4 had a really good campaign so you really missed out there. It didn't nail MP however....then Halo 5 had the opposite issue with a terrible campaign and great MP.

Infinite I have a feeling will be a game changer. It's said Slipspace is the most advanced game engine ever created. I'm pretty hyped for next gen Halo.

[Sayai jin]

@Dissidia, what are you going on about? Why are you askig me about GoW and Mario?. The article was about Halo.

Yes, Gears 5 was received fairly well. Too bad thr player count decreased relatively fast. I still play with friends nightly, but the lower count is noticeable.

No, I didn't get the last GoW for myself and I haven't played a mario game in over a decade.

I never said that Halo should stop. I just said they need more flagship titles. It's like you are personnaly offended by me being tired of Halo. Maybe it's an age thing, but I don't understand it.

I am pretty sure 343 will nail the next Halo.

[alb1899]

Halo Infinit Budget is supposed to be 500millions just for develop. They create a new engine just for this game. It will be amazing.

[F0XH0UND922]

Please stop spreading false information. There are no reliable sources that prove a 500 million dollar budget.

[alb1899]

Fox,
According to German website Xbox Dynasty, the budget for Halo Infinite is rumoured to be a staggering $500 million. That would easily make it the most expensive video game project ever produced, with the developmental budget coming from Microsoft and 343 Industries.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

@Bruh

I have beaten every single halo campaign on heroic or higher. The campaigns are always between 6 to 10 hrs.

[ssj27]

Its a cross gen old gen game its not a next gen game but i understand fans of halo been happy but i am reading the game will look next gen etc is crazy lol its a current gen game

[Obscure_Observer]

"Can't wait for Halo reveal. I'm hoping they nail it."

343i seems pretty confident, they probably have something to impress us. :)

[mkis007]

1 first party game can't steal a show anymore. Xbox needs to show Halo, Fable 4, and a new IP to have any hope of stealing the show.

[CaptainCook]

Last time I've checked Sony only announced one first party launch game and that's Spiderman, not even a full game.

[mkis007]

So you assume Sony is launching with 1 exclusive...By that logic Xbox is launching with only Halo :I this holiday because nothing else is announced.

[CrimsonWing69]

Right because in any launch history for Sony they’ve never released more than 1 first party game at launch.

Let’s come back to your comment at launch day, yea?

[medman]

@captaincook
You really need a reality check. Sony releases it's first party games consistently throughout the generation, every single generation. Microsoft has yet to get that nailed down correctly. I'm hoping that with their new studio acquisitions, the timetable for when and what they release will become more consistent, because the fact is that Microsoft has some huge droughts and enormous time gaps between AAA game releases, and Sony has never suffered that problem.

I believe Microsoft knows this, and are working the problem and with their July presentation we will finally see their roadmap going forward and what we can expect. But to keep comparing Microsoft to what Sony is/has done is absurd. To this point it isn't a competition. Sony's first party exclusives are outstanding, and they release consistently, and will continue to do so. Yakuza 5 and Dreams in February. Nioh 2 and Persona 5 Royal in March. TLOU II in June. Ghost of Tsushima in July. Microsoft's last big game was Ori in March, and I can't think of anything else they've got coming for the rest of this year for the xbox one.

[Games1st]

It will have nearly everything and next gen features. Another "full game" can be made to optimize experience and PS5 Pro.

[ssj27]

halo is a current gen game no a exclusive next gen if you expecting a game that is designed for a 1tb 7 year's old console to be mind-boggling you are delusional. And ps5 at least has a next gen game day one even if is a 5hr long game. Last time i check gears was like 5 hrs long game and didn't saw any of you complaining haha doble standards an delusional thinking is wht scares me to get a xbox. I man having to play online with people like that is scary not saying ps online players are normal but definitely has huge mature smrt community

[F0XH0UND922]

Do you even read bro? Spider-Man MM IS a full standalone game. To say you're clueless would be an understatement.

[Ristul]

I hope they really nail it with fable, maybe make it open world for change.

[chiefJohn117]

... You never played Fable have you? If you did you would have never made that comment

[CrimsonWing69]

What was it before?

[Ristul]

chiefJohn117: I have played fable 1, 2 and 3 from start to finish, please explain what you mean. Are you saying Fable is know for being open world? They have been mostly set up with trails and semi open towns. Im willing to bet I know more about fable then you do small fry.

[Ristul]

CrimsonWing69: Fable has been devided into small sections on the map, and those sections have trails for you to follow. The Second and third game had a bit more open areas then the first game but still not open world.

[timotim]

He is right...Fable has never been fully open world before...only open areas separated by by loading screen when you go to the next section.

[Kados]

IMO Fable 4 alone would be enough to steal the show, unless Sony/Bluepoint were to actually reveal an LoD remake.

[mkis007]

I really want another fable. I might be the only one, but I loved fable 3.

[chiefJohn117]

343 not speaking for Xbox as a whole they talking bout their game and themselves. They trying to steal the show period. So when it ever Halo is the main thing people talking about. OFC we as fans want more than just Halo but that's not what they're talking about. If any other game matches Halo on excitement then 343 didn't steal the show. For example Sony's event the PS5 console is what stole the show. They showed a few games but without question the console is the talk of the town way more than any of the games

[ColdSin]

According to a game developer on Resetera, this game has holy f**k type of visuals:

https://www.resetera.com/th...

The confirmation of this guy being in a position to see the game:

https://www.resetera.com/th...

[Noskypeno]

As long as they dont downgrade the visuals from the previous two trailers then it should be a bar setting showcase.

[timotim]

People really dont understand how much detail is in the visuals shown in the previous 2 trailers. If the game remains that detailed in gameplay, jaws will drop.

[CaptainHenry916]

It takes more than graphics to be a great game. Halo 5 campaign was just awful

[ColdSin]

Yah, we will have to see how much effort they put into this game in terms of gameplay and story. Hopefully they nail it.

[chiefJohn117]

What did you think was awful about it specifically?

[ColdSin]

The movement system. It felt like a new game instead of Halo. Hopefully they base their movement on Mythic Arena's movement system.

[chiefJohn117]

Not sure he actually got a behind the scenes type of look cause there already been some in-game footage leaked nothing major or spoiling just random walking and testing and it does look fanf***ingtastic. So by seeing that little Clip I could post the exact same thing and making it seem like I'm an insider when I'm not

[WeAreLegion]

He didn't say that about the visuals.

"What I'm trying to say is... holy fucking shit we're gonna have fun tomorrow because that game looks beautiful and I can't wait to see Sony's first party games."

[Obscure_Observer]

"that game looks beautiful"

Yes he´s talking about Infinite´s visuals and how he also was expecting to be wowed by Sony´s first party games visuals. Don´t know how things turn out for him, though.

[AuraAbjure]

Well whatever all halo games have soul except 5 which only had soul in its setting, plot and characters but devoid in gameplay. "Dude nice ground pound" felt equivalent to saying "cool prius."

I still think they should add a feature to catch vehicles with one's bare hands. And swear out loud while doing it on sum crackdown shiznit!

https://www.halowaypoint.co...

[SpartanYalo]

What it’s detaining them from doing it now?

[rainslacker]

No E3 I'd imagine.

[RaveTears]

As long that they don't false advertise the campaign like they did with Halo 5. I will give Halo a try again.

[TheGamez100]

Really excited for infinite. And please show us gameplay.

[RosweeSon]

Why because everyone else had pulled out 🧐🤷🏻‍♂️

[DragonWarrior19]

As a Halo fan since the beginning I really hope you've learned from the abysmal 4 & 5 mistakes. This is the last hurrah for Halo. I'm hopeful though! The teaser and last year's trailer looked great, now just to show up you went back to the classic Halo gameplay and got rid of the Call of Duty clone crap you mashed in for no reason.

[ColdSin]

Hopefully they build everything in terms of the movement system based on that mythic arena movement system. That experience was sick and felt really like old Halo but improved.

[chiefJohn117]

I don't understand what you mean the movement is the same they just removed the extra abilities. But the core movement is the same.

I think if we're being honest a blow out of Halo infinite would outshine every game Sony just showed, lets be honest.

[zshadow]

Halo: Infinite will have a live service-style campaign that continually evolves over time.

like destiny ?

[NeoGamer232]

I like the idea of a service-style campaign, but it has to be done right. Has to be a true and deep story. Not just a mission based adventure, but chapters that lead to something along the line.

You think about it, and most story games start with an engine, and then they do 2-5 games on that engine with only minor enhancements. If they didn't both with Halo 6-8 and just provided me with campaign stuff totaling about 45 hours over a five year period on the engine I would be fine with it.

Really GamePass is changing their delivery model. They are no longer constrained by packaging and selling first party games stand alone. They are getting an ongoing income and using that income to efficiently continue to add to the games. Look at Sea of Thieves. Rated very poorly at launch, but we still see content coming. Rare took a poorly rated game and built a following on it. If they could do the same for Halo campaigns that would be very cool. Others have tried this but I don't think it has been done well yet.

[yomfweeee]

Changing their delivery... by giving the game away for free... but filling them with paid DLC and micro transactions.

[NeoGamer232]

@yomfweeee
I have been on GamePass pretty much since the start. Have not spent a single cent on DLC and micro-transactions and have played tons of games.

I have not seen anything in GamePass games that I don't see when you pay full price for the games.

[hectorius]

NeoGamer23235m ago
@yomfweeee
I have been on GamePass pretty much since the start. Have not spent a single cent on DLC and micro-transactions and have played tons of games.

I have not seen anything in GamePass games that I don't see when you pay full price for the games.***

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[NeoGamer232]

@hectorius
LOL. Microsoft gives GamePass subscribers discounts if you decide you want to buy the game and all its extras. I don't have any expectation that they would include all the extras in GamePass. I can choose to buy the extras separately as well, but have yet to do that for any game on GamePass.

Your links are to the ultimate versions that have all the paid DLC for Horizon 4 and Gears 5.

GamePass does not pretend to give you the ultimate versions of the games. Please name one place where Microsoft has said that GamePass gives you the ultimate versions of all the GamePass games. I have not bought Gears 5 nor Forza Horizon 4... Never paid a single cent for DLC, microtransactions or whatever and completely enjoyed playing them fully through on the campaign/career side (Actually still playing Forza Horizon 4 career), and often play multi-player in both games without spending a cent. The versions of the games on GamePass are not at all gimped off any of the standard/basic versions.

I assume that like Sea of Thieves, if they keep expanding a Halo game campaign that they will also include those expansions with GamePass. GamePass gamers would quit the service if they didn't.

Pretty obvious you don't own an XB, because you wouldn't make that comment if you did. GamePass saves me tons of money on gaming. It has dramatically reduced my spending on games.

[hectorius]

NeoGamer23235m ago(Edited 28m ago)
@hectorius
LOL. Microsoft gives GamePass subscribers discounts if you decide you want to buy the game***

Sony has done that with PS+ since it started back in 2010.. WTF, is MS supposed to get a medal or something?

***and all its extras.***

obviously not genius

***I don't have any expectation that they would include all the extras in GamePass. I can choose to buy the extras separately as well, but have yet to do that for any game on GamePass.

Your links are to the ultimate versions that have all the paid DLC for Horizon 4 and Gears 5.***

I know what they are kid, however you said..

***I have not seen anything in GamePass games that I don't see when you pay full price for the games.***

If you notice dipstick, you can get the FULL version with the "Ultimate" microtransaction CHEAPER than you can with Gamepass + Microtransactions. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? The OP said..

***yomfweeee3h ago
Changing their delivery... by giving the game away for free... but filling them with paid DLC and micro transactions.***

The OP was wrong as you don't even get the game for free. End of discussion.

[NeoGamer232]

@hectorius
The way GamePass works. You don't have to buy the game, GamePass provides the game. For games with add-ons and microtransactions you still have to buy that stuff. Xbox Live Gold subscription is like PS+. XBox Live Gold gives you some discounts weekly and games are given each month just like PS+. Again the version of those games is the standard versions. GamePass also has additional deals on buying the GamePass games and any add-on / microtransaction content. They have now added GamePass perks as well, where in games that are highly microtransaction based like Smite and World of Tanks they give you microtransaction related stuff as part of the GamePass subscription.

I am no kid. I have been gaming since 1976 and have played games in every generation... Pong, Pac-man, Donkey Kong, Centipede, Star Raider, Pitfall, Mario games, Ultima, Sonic the Hedgehog OG games, etc. You name it I have probably played it on almost every popular platform since 1976.

You can name call all you want if that makes you feel better. Microsoft has several sale types. Just like Sony does and not one sale type gets you the best discount necessarily. There are GamePass sales, XBox Live Gold Sales, Publisher Sales, and other Themed Sales weekly. As with Sony you have to watch the different sales and find the best deals. This is nothing new for Sony or Microsoft gamers. Just like I goto the PS Blog to see the PS deals, I goto the Major Nelson site (Director of Programming for XB Live) to get the list of all the different deals available to XB gamers. It can be found here: https://majornelson.com/202...

My OG post is correct. They give you the base or standard game as part of the subscription. At no time do they force you to buy the base or standard game if it is on GamePass (In fact, when you try to buy a game that is on GamePass they warn you that you already have the game through GamePass). Each game has its own monetization model and some games are definitely better then others. But, that model is the same for every gamer on GamePass or not. I have not seen any game on GamePass where you have to pay more then any other gamer that bought the base or standard game to complete the same content. I have played the entire Gears campaign start to end without paying a cent over my GamePass subscription. And I continue to play multi-player without paying (I have a very strict no microtransaction or pay to progress policy - I refuse to do either - And do not play games where either are required). Same with Forza Horizon and every other game on GamePass. I then watch the sales. If a game is on in its complete state (All add-ons, etc.) I wait until it is at least 75% off and then sometimes buy them.

Since I have joined EA Access, XB GamePass Ultimate, and PSN+/PSNow I pay about $30 a month between the two and have access to tons of games on both platforms (Also watch for discounts on these as well). And then set a $25 per week purchasing limit and buy games as they fit in that budget. So, for about $130 per month I have built a collection of over 2,000 XBO and 150 PS4 games over this past generation (I primarily play on XB and buy exclusives on PS). In the X360 and PS3 era I paid a lot more for for the same number of games. And my purchasing has dropped substantially since GamePass and PSNow. Say whatever you want... Someone who is cost conscious can save a lot of money on these subscriptions. LOL. I also have a Switch, but, only buy the odd game there because the game costs are high.

[chiefJohn117]

You can still own July. do a full blow out of it like you planned at E3. Halo is back in action baby! 5 years been way too long

[Zombieburger638]

It's more like 10-13 years depending on how you feel about reach. 4 and 5 are trash.

[chiefJohn117]

That's your opinion I personally hate reach. 4 had a great story and a good MP not as good as the rest in the series but I had plenty of fun and hundreds of hours in it. 5 campaign was not good by halo standards but the MP was the best in the series. I wouldn't define that as trash. I'm sure you don't mean that either. Halo just have a super high standard and if it falls even an itch short of that high bar it set we call it trash when in reality it still destroys every other fps out there or at the least on par for other people.

[FGHFGHFGH]

@chiefjohn117
"in reality it still destroys every other fps out there or at the least on par for other people."

It's not as popular as it was in 360 days (when bungie developed it). If it's as good as you say then why is barely in the top 50 of xbox games? FPS games are still played the most on xbone, destiny is still top 10. There are 3 call of duty games more popular on xbox, even fallout76 is more popular.

[Bruh]

Presuming the level of fidelity is matching the in-engine trailers. This game would really be pushing graphical fidelity for shooters. Excited to see the July showcase

[CrimsonWing69]

That’s what they all say.

[OB1Biker]

That sounds arrogant?

[waverider]

I think that the New rpg from the New studio will be the biggest game. With more impact. Halo already run it course. Its time for something fresh, cool, new universo, amazing landscapes,

[NeoGamer232]

There are a lot of people who buy XB solely for Halo.

I, personally am interested to see what they are going to try and do to innovate the genre. This genre seems to have max'd out, but there is room for improvements still.

[Zeke68]

Talk is cheap to be honest. Steal the show - from who? Sony and Nintendo was never gonna show up at E3 anyway.

[chiefJohn117]

This isn't MS vs Sony vs Nin. It's halo vs everything including other Xbox games. When a dev/game talks about stealing a show it 1 vs all. So even if the other two consoles weren't gonna be there you still had plenty of MS 1st party games and 3rd party games to compete with for show stealer title

[Italiano1234567]

U havent owned anything since u took over the halo franchise 🤣

[Obscure_Observer]

"U havent owned anything since u took over the halo franchise"

Killzone

[Games1st]

That's how you would do it. E3 would of been awesome.

[Mrwick890]

343 hasnt made a good game yet. Idk why people are getting hyped about this

[FanboySpotter]

I hope E3 comes back next year.

[Poopmist]

Wouldn't have been difficult this year. HZD 2 isn't in a playable state most likely yet. Spiderman looks good but it's Spider-Man 1.5 pretty much. The games from the other 2 shows were not particularly impressive. Sony generally doesn't have many heavy hitters at launch. That's saves for a couple years into the gen(HZD 2, Dad of War 2, etc this time)

[HexxedAvenger]

I’ve been waiting for this. It’s gonna be awesome!

[TheColbertinator]

Fix the damn story. Ever since Bungie left, I've felt like the plot became lazy fan fiction.

[RamRod88]

I feel like it's the opposite. They made it overly complicated for any casual fans.

[drunkenspy007]

If it's good you don't need E3 to release, hold a twitch event with some awesome videos or such.

[neomahi]

It's almost like Sony could see the future, that some shaman could see what this year beheld and told Sony to back out of E3 for good, while Microsoft bought a stage in L.A. that now lies dormant. Sony have adapted as this is now just usual business while Microsoft are, again, behind. I keep seeing this stuff from Microsoft and I always think of just how inexperienced Microsoft really is. They're always saying Sony are kicking them in the heels and stuff like that to the point they know it looks bad to compete with Sony so they change their direction to say they're after Google, that's drowning to try and make them look better. They've got a-holes like Aaron Greenburg working in their marketing department and you're wondering how he slipped through the disbanding of the Don Mattrick stint. He's an arrogant Executive Fan of that behave like Donald Trump and thinks it's funny. A stark contrast to Yoshida or Boyes. Microsoft doesn't know gaming, they can't, they've tried. If I were a developer for Microsoft, I'd be frustrated looking especially over the fence at Sony, I'd be fed up, I'd leave. No wonder this guy's in so much sorrow, Microsoft can't adapt. Only try to catch up scrambling, which is what the July event is, an attempt to catch up and imitate Sony to mirror Sony but as usual, they're late to the show and it makes them look bad, their third-party unveiling, should have been what Sony did then, now it just shows they're trying to mimic Sony, as Microsoft does in all their business, to compete with Sony.

[lellkay]

Man i'm rooting for Halo hard. Genuinely love 1-3 and got a lot of enjoyment from ODST and Reach. 4 and 5 were ok but lacking the magic. Really hope this is the one to bring it back.

[RamRod88]

I'm pumped for Halo Inifinite! the wait for gameplay footage has been agonizing😩

[Charal]

That’s a little bit easy. Their is nothing preventing them to « steal the show » even without e3. PS5 event proves that online presentation can have massive impact.
If this is so good, don’t mourn about E3 and give sa more positive message on July event instead of saying that is cannot do justice to your work.

[3-4-5]

* Destiny style campaign that can expand over time.
* Open world that campaign plays in.
* All multiplayer maps are from within this, and can create forge maps from anywhere on open world map.
* Launching with more maps than Halo 5
* Can play campaign as either Master Chief or create your own character and play along side him.
* They talk about "your story" a lot and in a game like Destiny....even in single player it's Your story...your version of it....

* I'm just hoping for a return to form with Multiplayer.....343 hasn't shown they can make good multplayer maps, but I'm so beyond hyped for Halo Infinite.....My most wanted game at this point I think..

[TheHan]

Every time I hear about a new Halo. It’s always been my most anticipated game.

[S2Killinit]

Lots of talk

[lazyboyblue]

I'm hoping for a more open game. I'd love to be able to pick my battles then call in a pelican and move on. Like calling a chopper in MGSV.

[Mr Marvel]

You were never going to “own” E3 with a Halo game.

[Darkborn]

Every year is Microsofts year to conquer E3. How many did they actually "win"?

[FlavorLav01]

Does anyone know what ever happened to this game called The Last Night, MS revealed this in 2017? Figured another cool MS project canceled since we haven’t heard anything in forever...
https://youtu.be/pupdeq1MoV...