This generation represents the final transition from physical to digital, and after nearly 2 decades, it might be time to finally let go.
One word STORAGE
I'm assuming that even the Blueray version will dump all data into the SSD so as not to slow the transfer of data, so not sure storage size will make a difference.
as far as BC goes, the digital model will be compatible with PS4 games but the digital ones. PS Store will be updated to show only PS5 compatible games. it'll be cheaper, but i'm going for the disc version.. some people almost only play PS+ free games, and digital edition is a good fit for them together with the discounted games on the store.
I'm assuming he means that it's easier and faster to delete game and install it again with the disc isntead of downloading the game again?! Not sure though... The problem is that even if you install a game from the disc you will still have to download the patches that are sometimes well over 10GB... But the amount of space the use on the PS5 is the same no matter if digital or physical... The game has to be on the hdd otherwise it would be way to slow, this is already the case for the PS4 and the PS5 has the super fast SSD so everything has to be installed on the SSD!
This already happens on PS4. The game is fully installed from the disk and the disk acts as a key or you could install a game on multiple consoles. Digital or disk it doesn’t matter because it takes the exact same amount of space. How do people not know this?
One word WRONG
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Try trading that in at Game. They wanted rid of the second hand game market. Xbox and Sony both guilty
They offer both ways. If I didnt want ps5 also as br player, I would buy Digital version.
Fact is, digital is outperforming physical by a country mile so I'm sure Sony isn't sweating you guys trading.
I guarantee Sony and Microsoft are sweating over their content being re sold without any profit
Last count digital is 51% with plenty of games being digital only. Thats not by a country mile or a city mile either.(even though they are the same length).
By a country mile you mean still hovering around 30% of total software sales? Revenue is greater in digital, but that's because of all the digital add ons, DLC purchases, MT, and software sales combined. PC is different, but consoles haven't seen as much growth on that front.
I dont understand one thing. Ps4 games are in PS store. If there is Bc, you can simply download game to ps5, right? What is Bc has to do with discs? Does anyone think, that Sony will not allow to simply download ps4 version from store, if you bought it? That would be major disadvantage. I think its complete nonsense.
They gotta find a way to stir negative press. Like it isn't common sense. DL games for Back compat for the digital version. If you want to play the physical versions you don't get that digital edition console. Vita did it already where only the compatible games show in the store for it specifically. Boom, no issues at all. I'm sure no person using common sense is wondering what's up lol.
Everything. If you have a game on the disc, you don't own it on psstore. So if you have 50 ps4 disc games and have all digital ps5 you can't download shit. You have to buy them again. Or maybe Sony will do something official to trade your bdisc game for a code. My collection is all digital.
The point was for current PS4 owners with a big physical library. Because unless Sony create a validation method were your physical copy translate into a digital one. Your collection would be "lost". That said. I find it a rather silly take because there is a version with a physical drive available. If Sony had ditched it all together then I would agree with the author. But that is not the case. A better argument would be that for the sake of preservation. The digital only console is not a good step. However if Sony goes the PC route from here and out (meaning that each new console would run software design for all the previous generations) I also don't think it's big deal.
I think if you have the disc version, you won't be able to use it with BC on the digital only version. There is no way for them to verify you own the disc. Even if they know you played it at some point, there is no licensing DRM to verify you still own a legal copy.
I understand that. But this is given. Its same like if you own disc on ps4 and Sony create ps4 Digital, you cant play disc version of games. It has nothing to do with Bc. That was my point. Disc versions have diffeferent Skus. Its technically different game. So there is only problem of owning. If you own many disc games, you need to have console with disc reader, thats logical, isnt it?
SKU is a retail thing. Console systems use a unique identifier, so it's possible to tie digital and physical games together...as evidenced by how MS does it. It's also why digital versions don't have different trophy lists than the physical versions....although if they did, it wouldn't be a bad way to garner some extra sales among trophy hunters....but I digress. But, yes, it's logical to assume that if someone has a lot of physical games....such as myself....a disc based version of the system would be more appropriate. How Sony handles the BC with it I couldn't say, and it may just install off the disc. X1 uses an emulator wrapper so they have to download the digital version with that wrapper, which is why it's not installed directly from the disc.
The agenda is to force a digital only console next gen. they will all not stop until physical media is gone. They’re going to take a massive hit on the digital version causing it to sell better then push that narrative through the media that physical is no longer needed & of course people will lap it up because they’re being told it’s the norm. It’s what they should be doing.
Sure dude, and the presenters were CGI and the Earth is flat. It's an option and the first real test as to if people want this or not. Xbox One S did it way too late in the gen but by doing it from the get go, the industry will have a better idea. Steam is all digital and all I can hear is good things about it.
If the all digital future smells so much of roses because it’s just an option. People who lack the intelligence of forethought or the ability to see what Is happening in the background. Need to understand the reasoning behind it. I would tell them to look at Nvidia Now. They don’t demand you pay a single penny, they believe if you own the game you should be able to play it wherever you like. It’s the devs, publishers and therefore the industry that wants to force you to buy it again despite you owning it already. I would say look at how digital codes are evolving. It’s becoming hard linked to consoles now so if you already have that particular game or don’t like it. They don’t want someone to be able to buy that code for cheap off you. Because that code is already a free item. They’re not making a sale from it. They want no option other than to be an RRP purchase from them. Even if it means that free code goes to waste. I would say what happened to the global response to digital distribution in the claims that we would all see a drop in prices because there would be no manufacturing, production or distribution costs. Yet digital RRP is far higher than physical. Because they control it completely and they are a business that wants as much money as possible and because they control it through digital distribution they can do that! It’s business capitalism at its finest. They do not want you to be able to have a choice. The only way to do that without backlash is make you make the decision yourself.
I'd maybe wait until they announce pricing before we start with all the assumptions. Sony is a global brand, and they know there is still a strong market for physical. Even if they are trying to move to digital, they aren't going to give up the physical if it's a good portion of the market. That's a pretty high risk there to go all digital, even if they plans are long term. Who's to say what it would be next gen, but the world still has an internet infrastructure to deal with.
Oh look, another hurricane in a tea cup article. I don't see the problem, we have options people, and what's wrong with that? I commend Sony for doing this!.
An option to have less options... yay! I wish more companies would do this. Like a coffee maker that would only work with chipped coffee pods you bought directly from them via subscription. Think of how convenient it would be to not to have to worry about shopping around for sales or cheaper brands... /s This is what the all digital push is. Single channel monopoly on where your games come from and locked to a single user/console. I really hope my tinfoil hat is unnecessary, but from a business perspective it feels all too much like the end game.
I would never get rid of my PS4 to begin with which is why the digital only version makes sense. However, what we do not know is of the PS5’s backwards compatibility offers some sort of enhancement to your PS4 games. If that is the case then the disc version may be worth the extra cash. One thing is for sure and it’s that no one wants to pay an arm and a leg for 4k BluRay movies, which will likely become outdated in 2 years when 8k players are everywhere.
Well if PlayStation future is all digital then PS5 is my Last console. me like physical disk "Only"
Yeah, if that’s the case PS5 will be my Last console as well. While that may be the case, it’ll be an amazing an unforgettable one, and that’s super exciting. No desire for a “Digital Only” gaming future.
I'll be 50 or so when the PS6 launches, so if I have to, I'll just forgo buying a console, and get caught up on my backlog. The newer generations of people can get their content digital, but it would take a lot for me to want to go that route. I still haven't done that for music, and I still buy the movies I actually want to own on disc. I don't mind digital as an option, and even buy it sometimes, but I do like having my stuff where it's actually my stuff.
"You'll be be 50 by time PS5 release" I'll be 62 next month. so PS5 Ratchet and Clank ,GT7 ,Godfall ,Jax and Daxter if they announce it later this year be my last adventure in gaming. Not into this generation of open world shooters or adventure open world type games. Ea already screwed up NFS for me. it used to be fun to play now all open world FREE Roaming online racing Nothing to do but drive around a City looking for races.
I've found new life in gaming with some things like open world, which I wasn't really that into prior to this gen. I think those types of games have gotten better over time, when they were more frustrating to play on older gens...and I probably had my judgement clouded by some bad examples in the past. I'm pretty old school in what I like, but I've come to like genres that I haven't before if they are well done, and for me at least, have a good story to keep me engaged. I do sometimes miss older styles of game play, but I'm not sure I think they need to make heavy come backs. Turn based JRPG used to be my staple, with a few other genres that rounded things out, but mostly, I was into more Japanese games through most of my years. I was spoiled on the PC-Engine, Saturn, and PS1/2, and PS3 saw the rise of western devs where their games didn't feel bland and lifeless, so I've adopted more western style games. I still enjoy my retro games though, but I also really like having my physical collection. I'm just old school like that, and while I will never get back what I paid for them, at least they have value beyond some ones and zeros with a arbitrary license attached to them. When this whole "digital is the future" thing started gainging a lot of momentum around the middle to end of last gen, I sold off a lot of my collection(not most, but a lot), and while these people were saying how great digital was, I saw about ten grand come into my bank account. That to me is worth more than some convenience for all digital.
There’s too much value in physical gaming for me to ever give it up
Going for digital only
I'm torn. I would ordinarily definitely go with the disk version for obvious reasons. But the digital version looks far better and if it's cheaper will be there be a much reduced market for second hand games?
Reduced market, perhaps, but supply and demand would scale the same.
If its the "final transition" why is there a disc option? smh
Why wouldn’t there be a disc option?
You need to ask thegamer.com
I'm glad it exist so people have a cheaper option, but I won't be getting it.
Cheaper initially, but depending on how many games you normally purchase, the option to pick something up used, trade, or price shop different stores that initial savings could easily be eaten up in the deals you miss out on. Sure digital has sales, but outside of that a lot of games seem to stick at the $60 tag long after physical copies start to see price drops.
If it fails, then maybe this all digital future thing will finally be laid to rest. I don't think MS attempt went very well...although that may be for reasons other than the console itself.
wouldnt they have ps now on ps5?
Two words Storage Price
It whould be great to buy the game in a shop and you get the digital code in the case . Like blu rays id consider buying both then one upstairs and one down stars not needing the disks not on the same day of course
It's good to have the option. Personally I don't buy physical media anymore. I'm not a collector and I like the convenience of just downloading games. So I was hoping for a discless PS5. I would say a good 90% of my PS4 games are digital. Only the older ones are physical, which are usually dirt cheap on the PS store by now. So if I to replay one of my older games that bad that I have to re-buy it won't be a huge deal.
A gamer is smart enough to know if they have physical copies of games to get the disc one whilst someone like me has mainly gotten digital games this gen will stick to the digital one.
Since you really just lose the drive, I'd still get the one with the drive. Even if I was all into digital I would. I'd pay extra for the drive simply because I like to have options for the long term. I come across too many cheap physical games to say I'd never buy one again, and digital has that at times, but it's far less frequent.
I'm all for digital purchases. Here's an interesting article from IGN talking about the cut retailers get from sales. Physical stores do take 30%, meaning Sony or MS loses a significant portion of sales for first party games. If you buy them from the Playstation or XBox store, they aren't paying Target or Amazon that 30%, increasing revenue for new games. Furthermore with 3rd parties, the publishers might take a larger cut to offset manufacturing and shipping, in addition to the 30% retailer cut. https://www.ign.com/article...
Sony and MS take about 20% of the sale of the game on their store fronts. The publisher isn't really making much more with digital, but they don't have to worry about resale or making copies of the game to sell, which is an upfront cost. Sony and MS do make more selling digitally on their stores for their published games, but that isn't the main reason that the industry itself is pushing towards digital games. Also, not all retail sellers are making 30%. Far from it really. Someone like me, who sells games as a side business, is lucky to make 20% profit on new games, and that's before any expenses are factored in, and if I sell a game at full MSRP. New game sales, I may make about $2-3 per copy when it's all said and done. It's why I don't bother with new releases. Amazon and other big retailers aren't making much more in profit than I would...maybe just a couple bucks, and chances are, given the quantities they buy, they're still going to be selling some at a loss at some point.
Thanks for the info!
No thanks to digital only
Tempted to go all digital. I only have about 10 disc PS4 games and 7 of them are unopened and never will be because there apart of the UK only on playstation collection. I don't think I have bought a second hand game in about 3 years. As for hard drive space I have a 2tb external i use with my PS4 anyway so that will he used for my PS4 games on ps5.
I stopped buying disks a long time ago, then the new cod came out so i though ill buy disk as they keep value.. then after putting the disk in I needed an 80gig download. never buy disk again
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