According to the official PlayStation blog, upcoming PS5 remake Demon's Souls will have two graphics mode options to choose from.
AWESOME NEWS! Give me 60fps games or at very least resolution and framerates options.
so "no 60fps" is the new thing to downplay PS5...interesting. very interesting :) On Topic: I do agree 60fps should be mandatory for most of the games, I said most because Turned Based JRPGs are fine with 30 fps.
Options should be mandatory for for every game. I'd rather play at 1080p60 than 4k30. People shouldn't be defending this.
@Kranker The PS4 Pro can do [email protected] no problem. So you are fine with a Next-gen system with the same level of performance? If so why are you going to buy PS5? Why should we defend a next gen system with last gen performance? Pleas explain?
Kranker What games have you played at 4k?
Ummmmm. Framerates are always a conversation. One of the big discussions from the MS show was Assassin's Creed running at 30 fps so no it is not a downplay of the Sony show. It is a discussion about framerates which is often discussed with almost all new games. Personally, I find 30 fps lame in any game. XBO X and PS4 Pro were both mostly capable of 30 FPS at 4K. If this is what the next gen is offering as well then it is nothing new.
@Neo When a 3rd party game like ACV chooses 30fps that's different. They are working on multi platform and they have to spread resources. But, when you are a first party in house studio you can spend more time to get the most out of only one system. Plus, extra internal help. If the frame rate is low now because they are early versions when are they planning on launching?
@itsmebrian tlou p2 runs at 30fps for both the base and pro. Not to mention many of the other AAA games on current gen consoles. You clearly are not a proper games if you are defending 30fps being the targeted framerate. Wipe the vaseline from your eyes my friend.
@kranker you are just one person , I’d rather not play 1080p . I didn’t buy a nice tv to play 1080p, 1440p at least . 30fps is fine with me if there are no drops . They will have options in most games like the Pro I’d bet .
Isn't it about time for console gamers to not accept less than 60fps? 60 is always applauded when offered, but 30 is "fine" when the majority of games use it. It's not. It's actually highly janky, and has a legitimate negative impact on controls, and smearing within visuals.
Welll looks like most of the first party games from Sony are only targeting 30fps to push visuals so good that this has the option.
well i want my jrpgs to be 60fps
Still a troll then, I was hoping you might have grown up.
Quite surpirsed its not 4k 60fps standard.
It could be 4K/60 just not with RT or some other effects. We don't have any details.
"One mode will be focused more on visuals" "The other mode will be focused more on the gameplay speed" Did you read? Clearly both arent the same frame rate.
RazzerRedux I get the feeling he's doing the the pretend to be neutral while actually downplaying thing.
Haha... Hakuoro. Damn you saw through me. Dude I'm a grown ass man (been here since 2008), I dont take this s*** that serious, its just computer games. I read the articles that interest me and occasionally comment my opinion on them. There's no agenda, or pretense.
My question is why are there 2 modes! This is a 1st party AAA in house studio and they can't get [email protected] out of this games with everything on? That is not what I expected.
This goes for both Sony and MS... they can't let ray tracing dictate 4K/30. They have to have an on/off mode, because I'd take a 4K/60 (no RT) over 4K/30 all day long.
We don't know its 60 vs 30. Could be 120 vs 60. Or even 60 vs unlocked, (45ish) which with VRR would be pretty smooth. If it is 60 vs 30 I will likely go with 60 but it all depends on the quality differences. Next gen can make very high quality possible when running at 30 and the screenshots are incredible. What I find hilarious is when xbox guys pretend they are outraged by games they clearly are jealous of.
@hakuro funny how whenever someone critizes anything about the ps5, people think "he's doing it with a different goal than what hes saying". 1. its criticism 2. critisism is subjective, so theres no need to come up with conspiracy theories, its just someone's opinon/view. 3. be realistic, not everyone will agree 100% with Sony no matter what they do like you, and thats ok. when someone asks your, hey bro whatsup? what goes through your mind then? do you also think there is something behind that besides that they are interested in whats going on with you?
"Did you read? Clearly both arent the same frame rate." Did you? Where did I say both will have the same frame rate? One could be 4k/60 without RT and some effect while the other could be 4K/30 with RT and effects. Like I said, we don't have details.
"Where did I say both will have the same frame rate?" "It could be 4K/60 just not with RT or some other effects" There mate. Right there. They make it clear, one mode is visuals, one is frame rate.
Well if one mode is 4k60 then that means that 4k60 is standard... And again as he pointed out no FPS or resolution is listed, the only people talking about resolution are the fake concern xbox fans looking to downplay the game and the console.
You said it right here : "It could be 4K/60 just not with RT or some other effects. We don't have any details.". You said it would be the same 4k//60 for both modes that is a copy and paste of what you said.
"You said it would be the same 4k//60 for both modes " I did not. Already addressed this below. That was a description of one possible mode. We don't know what the different modes will be at all. "and they can't get [email protected] out of this games with everything on?" LOL. you are in for a very disappointing console generation if that is what you expect.
Im pretty sure by now it's clear he cant read
"It could be 4K/60 just not with RT or some other effects" "There mate. Right there. They make it clear, one mode is visuals, one is frame rate." How was it not explicitly clear that the mode I described in the quote was the one focusing on frame rate as it *lacked* "RT or some other effects"? I expected you to figure it out that the alternate mode focusing on visual *with* RT would have reduced frames. Use some common sense, man.
People are out of their minds of they think 4k, 60kps and certainly 4k60fps is ever going to be standard. It's always developers choice where they spend their processing budget. Always.
The hell? Why do we have to "choose"? Why isn't 4K/60fps the standard? I'd understand if this was a multiplatform game, but this is a FIRST party game built from the ground up on the PS5. This has to be some kind of a joke...
It doesn't say anything about resolution or list any frame rate. it just says it has two modes, it could be 4k 60 and 4k 120 for all you know. But ya know carry on with the mis-infomation downplay.
You are already assuming the game isn't 4K/60 They never once said the resolution scaling would change, they just said the graphics would. This could be like how PC can have different graphical settings. New gen means new options.
Removing Raytracing brings back a decent amount of performance, and a lower quality shadow as well without changing the game drastically. From there, the only other change I'd want them to make is Resolution Scaling from 4K.
4k60 is a bit tough for even high end PCs. Well depending on graphics settings of course. Its only a matter of devs giving us the option for better framerate or graphics on console really. Unfortunately I feel many games still wont give us the option just like the current gen... Sony's first party we all know will prioritize dem graphics.
Well the game isn't finished and also it has raytracing, as do other games like Ratchet and Clank, Grand Turismo 7 (which is 60fps, but again cars going around a track). As I've said before focusing on Native 4K resolution is a waste of these consoles performance, when resolution scaled 4K looks every bit as good and allows for higher framerates. This is going to be a give and take, and most games that push Raytracing will be 30fps titles unless it's limited to specific areas or FOV's, and those without Raytracing can be 60fps games. Hopefully, Sony is wise enough to do a graphics and a performance mode for every game, because I'd rather have 60fps than a taxing lighting and reflection effect when global illumination offers a highly believable lighting effect as well without nearly the impact on performance.
One of the best rpg coming out for ps5
Trying to downplay this game is just going to make you look like a fool. This game of all games..
Because the hardware can’t handle that...people need to accept this truth finally. The ps5 is a half step up and an ssd isn’t more important than actual power. The tower of lies is falling
It's been in production for many years. When the PS5 Devkit's weren't around. Surely you understand this?
Bluepoint is not a Sony first party studio though. Even the original was not made by a first party studio.
If the resoulution mode isnt native 4k, then ill take 1080p60 any day. Really hope most next gen games give us that option. I mean come on with that new cpu, theres no excuse for a 60fps mode.
There's no need for 1080p. 1440p is the lowest I see these consoles going, and it's better to simply remove ray tracing, and get closer to the performance they need. I suspect it's Dynamic 4K @ 60fps, with raytracing removed and shadow quality set to normal console levels.
I can see this being the case; however I’m getting the sense the people who expect most or all of the games next gen to be 4K 60 fps are setting themselves up for disappointment. I am hopeful many games will have frame rate and visual options but I still think we will see many developers pushing graphics over performance.
Demons souls is a remake...bruh Not 4k / 60 as a set standard? Next gen you say...guess that extra horsepower is way more important than an ssd after all
Not bad I assume the graphic option is mostly to do with ray tracing. That thing is a hog. The RTX 2060 on pc is pretty much pointless if you want to use RT as it kills performance. I think it's going to be 4K 60 (without RT) or 1440p 60 with RT. I don't think they are going to give 30fps as a option considering this is a online title. Where you can be invaded by another play at pretty much any point.
I'd rather a crisp 4k @ 60 with shit like ray tracing and similar effects turned off.
Look what they did. They destroyed the game's atmosphere and their design change for Flamelurker is atrocious. It looks like a generic mobile game demon with a jack-o-lantern face. They turned the game from fantastic to generic trash. https://i.imgur.com/ZNWLdeF... https://i.imgur.com/ab3pgmi... https://i.imgur.com/oBXudOA... https://i.imgur.com/D0nfchB...
Its a design decision to bring more details in the face of thet monster, and let that place with the horse in the front look more creepy😉
Yea the remake looks better. Thanks for those screenshots.
No it doesn't. The game lost its dark and moody atmosphere, and the Flamelurker now looks like a generic mobile game demon with a jack-o-lantern face. The remake objectively, from artistic standpoint, looks far worse. Are you a mobile game consuming Indian or Chinese person by any chance?
You are hella dumb bro.
Wow that 3rd Pic nails the feel of the game. Wish it was like that.
I’ll stick with the frame rate version.
This is ridiculous. No excuse for not being 4K/60.
It's not a port. It's a total next gen remake. Along the lines of FF7 remake.
We've never seen a game with that visual fidelity in this gen, expecting 4k/60 is unrealistic. It looks like cgi of a blizzard game, as long as there is a 1440p/60 version im perfectly fine...because I'm rocking a 1440p monitor ...
I want 1440p at 120fps. I dont want 1080p at 60 fps. These consoles are suppose to be monsters. I want to see that translate in the performance,
All next gen games should run at a minimum of 60 FPS with no exceptions. What’s the point of all that muscle if you can’t use it?
Options is a welcome.. MOre choices.
I'm happy with that. Just give us the choice on all games. Hermen hulst on there says this is the largest line up of 1st party games PlayStation has showcased heading into a new platform launch. Does anyone know if that means bluepoint, sumo, lucid and housemarquee have now been bought buy Sony?
OMG!!! All the comments here...even when devs offering option, they still bash the game, saying why not 4k60...blablabla... Maybe Bluepoint should have just offered 4k60 with downgraded graphic. The haters won't know it anyway since there will be no real comparison between 2 modes anymore, given the only comparison available is to compare it with PS3 version. That will shut their mouth.
60fps thank God!!
Damn, that again... And from the looks of it that Demon's Souls Remake doesn't seem to be a game the basic 2013 PS4 could not run. If it's gonna be either graphics or performance on the PS5 too I think I'll wait for the mid-gen refresh. But most probably it's just a case of a game development rushed to meet the deadline to coincide with the release of the new system, and/or very high standards like 8K and/or 90fps or something... I just don't see how the PS5 couldn't run a game like that in native 4K/60fps.
Has it been confirmed to be a launch title?
This is what we ALL should be asking for regardless of your preference in console. I have nothing against 30FPS OPTIONS, but if we dont get at least a 60FPS option then its a fail for next-gen.
I'm really happy it's happening at all
For all of you kids who just like to sound foolish, what the majority people on here who actually make sense are saying is that a new generation system should have a 60fps standard, along with 4K as a standard. You’re paying hundreds for a new machine that claims to be Next Generation. If next generation doesn’t have a standard, then what are we upgrading to? What is going to be so different if I’m technically playing games now with the same resolution and fps as the next generation? My game loading up 5 seconds faster isn’t a viable reason to upgrade to a next generation system. That’s like you purchasing a 2020 Dodge Ram and then buying the 2021 version because it has 10 more horsepower.
I like video games as well.
I hope Insomniac is next to make such anouncement.