Resistance 2 is every bit the product of Resistance: Fall of Man's mentality: it's OK to do things by the numbers so long as those numbers are bigger than everyone else's.
Sigh... This hasn't been tallied up in the average score. There is no reason to abuse the system like this. This here shows not only the score but also the article, and what they wrote about the game. This is news worthy.
Same guys that gave Halo 3 a 10/10 and Bioshock 8/10.
These guys talk like they deserve credibility and their opinion matters more than anyone elses because they have been around for a while. Well that may be true, but they gave Left for dead a 9 in the same issue.... WTF!!!!!! Credibility out the window! Every other site has given RE2 a 9-10, even the odd 8. So every other reviewer is wrong and edge is right, sorry I dont buy it.
They have expanded on their section from their Magazine review regarding the online, I think. But it still barely gets a mention. Their main complaint(!!) is that they've focused on bringing us more players, more content and bigger enemies! "Not just bullets, either, but the wild range of beams, fireballs and energy pellets that make fighting the Chimera such a chore." So basically it's a chore to fight the Chimera because they shoot back at you. No wonder they liked L4D more than this game... Their only valid concerns are that Hale can only carry 2 weapons, and that the AI isn't great. But is that reason to give the game a 6? Are they ignoring the online on purpose? The co-op, which I've heard is the best part of R2, gets called "Partially Successful". Edge go into NO detail in the shooting mechanics or fun of the game, and seem to focus only on the negative. You can't say that if they give a 6/10 they are necessarily fanboys, but when pretty much everyone else loves this game, and it's sitting on a 8.9 average score, you have to suspect it.
"damn if I give this game a 9.5, it will rise. But if I hand it a 6, it will take 3 more 9.5s until it hits meta 9." So by giving it a 6, they think that they put the final nail in the coffin so that Resistance 2 will never hit the meta 9. As if Triple A is determined by 0.1s of scores... Hahaha fanboy tactics at the worst. Edge is insignificant and noone ever read Edge again. R2 is not yet out in Europe, but I guarantee you, day one for me and my friends. The status of shooters goes like this: Resistance 2> CoD WAW > Left4Dead PC > Gears of War 2> Left4Dead 360
No we knew ages ago that they'd given it a 6/10 - the online review is a slightly edited version of the review in their Magazine. Most of Edge's scores were a joke in that issue - 6/10 for CoD:WaW, games like Quantum of Solace getting 5/10 - but that's nearly the same score as R2, other games getting better than R2 which were also ridiculous. Then they had the cheek to give L4D a 9/10 - which is fine in and of itself, but when you give R2 a 6/10 which has a similar (and yet deeper) co-op mode as just one part of the entire package, it screams bias.
I am not bothered that whoever wrote this gave the game a 6 out of 10. I'm much more bothered by the fact it's barely 8 paragraphs.
with their review scores, always have been and always will be. No amount of complaints from the community will ever change that. It's not just PS3 titles that get it in the neck, Mass Effect for example - considered by many to be one of the best titles on the 360. What did they have to say about that? 7/10 Mass Effect is still enjoyable enough to warrant 24 hours of play (completion with sub-missions), and the stops it makes en route are visually stunning. It just doesn’t find what it goes looking for: the myth and exotica to accurately follow Star Wars. [Christmas 2007, p.86] [Edit] Taken from metacritic, where most scores for Mass Effect are either 100 or 90's - like wise for R2's metacritic page. You guys really shouldn't be reading too much in to this - it's fairly common and no sign of bias intented.
Fanboys, when will they stop.
from one of the most horrible reviewer around! 6 is not an indicator of fanboyism but in this case it's rather an indicator of DUMBNESS!!
Agreed. That was probably the worst review I've ever read. It should even be categorized as an article, much less a review.
even after reading this review if people think its better comparing it with Gears Of War 2 then they can roll over and die!!
I don't understand this score, Edge must be retarded or something. If they gave Halo 3 10/10 it must be because of the multiplayer, and I can only see the reason for them giving 8/10 to Bioshock because there is no multiplayer. So how the f*** does R2 deserve such a low score? The online is better than the last game, plus there is co-op, the graphics are much better and the single-player is pretty good. The only reason I can see is that these guys are xbox fanboys/halo fanboys.
"No we knew ages ago that they'd given it a 6/10 - the online review is a slightly edited version of the review in their Magazine. Most of Edge's scores were a joke in that issue - 6/10 for CoD:WaW, games like Quantum of Solace getting 5/10 - but that's nearly the same score as R2, other games getting better than R2 which were also ridiculous. Then they had the cheek to give L4D a 9/10 - which is fine in and of itself, but when you give R2 a 6/10 which has a similar (and yet deeper) co-op mode as just one part of the entire package, it screams bias." L4D is a better game, period. You people are using numbers again, who cares if Resistance 2 has 200 gameplay hours, 400 weapons, and 100 players online, it does not have the quality that L4D provides. I feel sorry for you guys that feel obliged to buy it just to justify your PS3 purchase.
how can you compare L4D's multiplayer with R2? They're COMPLETELY different, and anyone saying otherwise hasn't played both.
.....really? L4D is a MOD for a 4+ year old engine. The AI is non existent(why are zombies spawning on top objects they cant climb? like dressers, etc..), the weapons and how they're used is basic, the maps are basic and generic, the story is cheap and stolen, etc. etc. What L4D does successfully is act as a pretty good survival mini game that should have been included in a much bigger game. Calling L4D a quality title compared to R2 is an outright joke. I like L4D, but quality wise, LOL.
"Calling L4D a quality title compared to R2 is an outright joke. I like L4D, but quality wise, LOL. " Which is why L4D is critically acclaimed and Resistance 2 is just another FPS from the creator's of Ratchet and Clank.
Arent reviews just opinions guys you have to play the game youself and see if its good or not.
Pretty interesting. Resistance 2 has fallen below the 90s even the filled-by-fanboy-blog-scores N4G.com In metacritic, it has just hit 87%. Well below Fable II.
Have you played Left4Dead at all? The pathfinding AI is some of the best there is, there is absolutely nowhere the infected can't climb. The AI director is superb, getting the pacing and variety right every play through. If it weren't so, then there wouldn't be so many moments when a hunter has manage to pounce one of your team, or when a smoker has dragged one of your guys off. The weapons may be basic, but they all do a separate clearly defined job. You're not fighting things one on one, you don't need a Halo Needler, or some sci-fi wallhack gun. I know you love your chainsaw duels, but they don't really have a place in a contemporary urban environment. Dismissing it as a mod, is doing the game a disservice, and reflects badly upon your position. Pacific Rift is a mod of Motorstorm is it? Team Fortress 2 is a mod of Half-Life 2, is it? Compare Left4Dead to World of War's survival minigame, and you'll see an giant leap in scope and quality.
Come on even im a 360 fanboy and I know that theres something wrong with that score...
Everyone with a brain stem knows that Edge are biased d*ckweeds. Nothing from them (and several other sites) should be taken seriously.
"That means more players in multiplayer (60, up from 40), more weapons in the arsenal, more storeys on the bosses, more enemies on the screen, and more options on the menus. More, more, more." I can't believe they turned this into a bad thing? More? When has more ever been a bad thing (besides last Thanksgiving's pie)? If they said these things about a 360 game they would be praising Bill Gates and the "power" of the 360. This game has a really immersive story with a great multiplayer. I can see where they got the 6/10 from.
ok was that a review or just somebody whining?
this is a great review for this game they got it spot on tbh its and av
All the firing makes fighting the Chimera a chore? Well duh! It's an invasion your fighting against! Its a chore playing any game that has enemies shooting at you.
Retarded score, all you can say is HAAA, get real this review is bs and everyone on here knows it 360 or ps3 fanboy. These guys need to strung up, really you have to insanely ignorant or insanely arrogant, Im now leaning towards ignorant.
Their opinion. Still having fun with the game.
Well there's a sensible comment.
Thanks. I'm not letting reviews dictate how much fun I have in a game.
I for one am having a blast with a 6/10 EDGE scored game!
and some people trust metacritics more than N4G average score because N4G included some fanboy sites reviews LOL!! and what about metacritics? isnt eurogamer,edge,GameDaily the biggest fanboy sites against ps3 exclusives??
Proud to be sponsored by MS. Just look at all those Ads for the 360
... But it reflects what has been shown by Sony products so far. They focus too much into numbers instead of sould and identity of their games. They promise 1080p, 60 - 200 players online, 20 hours of gameplay, etc... numbers, numbers, numbers... and while in a pretty decent amount of cases they deliver, they still fall in the same mistake of losing focus on what makes a game a groundbreaking IP: Substance, the same substance and identity that make Halo and Gears of War milestone titles which each iteration.
Why am i not surprised ? *Sigh*...
Yeah! You heard the man, keep the news PS3 biased!
You respect Edges journalistic creditability.News.After giving Resistance 2 a score nearly 3 points below the average,they don't have any journalistic creditability.If they were genuinely down on this game they would have give it a low score.Of 8.They have given it a 6.A 6????What's that all about.Are they mad or do these expect to somehow sell more magazines by alienating all playstation fans.
I cannot believe that anyone can take your argument seriously, your idea of journalistic integrity has been seriously corrupted, and if this is your typical quality of argument, then the extra bubble you have shows the depths of which the N4G audience has fallen to. For you, journalistic credibility is not about stating opinions. It's about following the crowd. Instead of actively contributing to the Metacritic average, or whatever index you follow, you believe reviewers should try to second guess what everyone else is thinking. Only, it doesn't stop there, because instead of second guessing what the average will be, you're actually trying to second guess what everyone else thinks the average will be. Journalistic credibility, and integrity, come from stating your analysis clearly, succinctly and without any consideration from what the consensus might be. In the age of the blog, and the idiotic echo chambers they provide, where users merely restate opinions they read elsewhere, Edge's approach is both old fashioned and a breath of fresh air.
kwyjibo their credibility is tainted because there is no way that this game is a 6, how is it that it deviates so far from all other scores, do they think theyre seeing something that nobody else has? Or is it that they reviewed the game knowing what kind of score they were going to give before hand? Like the game or not in now way does it deserve a score like this, you know it I know it, everyone else knows it even edge. This is a stab at somebody and edge is clearly trying to hurt sales or pick up their own sales. Credibility is out the door when you miss the mark so badly, how can you take other scores seriously from them, how can you? As far as credibility coming from stating things clearly, are you serious? I can clearly state anything, true or not, the clarity of your statements mean nothing when they hold little value or are biased to your own agenda.
No, it's your opinion that this game is not a 6. It's Edge's opinion that it is. For a publication to be credible, they have to be true to what they believe. If you're grown up with IGN and Gamespot, where awarding everything 8/10 was the de facto standard until very recently, then that's probably a concept that is entirely alien to you. Reviewers have a duty to state their opinion, whether or not it agrees with the consensus or otherwise. It is not their job to second guess what the Metacritic average is, these are the opinions that actively shape the index average, not the ones that merely follow it. Edge gave Max Payne 6/10, totally outside of the distribution curve, just as Resistance 2's score is. And you know what? They were right about Max Payne, it was style over substance, over reliant on bullet time special affects to glaze over the quickload happy gameplay. On the other hand, they gave Morrowind 6/10, in which I totally disagree. What I do respect however, is that they're unafraid to air opinions that may lie outside the norm. You argue that because an opinion lies outside of the bell curve, then the publication has no credibility. That's false, you can apply this to every single publication, at some point, for some games, they will be the outlying opinion. Unless that is, those placid middle of the road 8/10s are all you read.
Blah, blah, blah, this not cannot be opinion without bias, no way in no world is this game an F, 6 out of 10.
get out of journalism please! its not for fanboys like you edge
LOL omg sh!t hahahahahahahahahahaha wtf 6.0 I mean its bad enough that gears 2 raped this game but damn a 6.0 lol
9.5 from IGN 9 from GS 9 from Gamesradar 9 from Eurogamer this is EDGE score. EDGE the same magazine that gave FLOP GAIDEN 2 a 8/10 and Banjo 7/10 all games on flop box 360 flopped this year except Gears 2 Resistance 2 got the same score as Gears 2 from the top 3 websites worldwide. Gears2 raped itself and all those flop bopx 360 games
Don't cry nasim. If you are having fun with the game you are having fun. Who care that it is a 6 out of 10. I just got done playing some lips with some friends and it is totally fun. I can't sing to save my life, but we all had fun. quit complaining every day. Get a console and play some games. If you aren't wealthy enough to get a ps3 or wii or 360...you can always get a ps2 at a good price. Just go play some games. Then come back on here and report to us and tell us how much fun you had.
tortella that's enough... your hurting their feelings. "Jump Out"
maybe that is why your english is so terrible. It's really sad that you are on your, what, tenth account? You're down to two bubbles again? Maybe you will get a clue one of these times and realize that people don't actually want to hear from you. Even ps3 owners get tired of reading your posts. Maybe try and stop spewing the same lame fake facts. If you own a ps3 you should really put your psn id on the website. Then we could see exactly how often you use this ps3 of yours. As far as I can tell, you just sit on here and cry about everything. It's quite sad really. *edit* Maybe someone should not be so racist New Message: 8 minutes ago | By: tortella | Block hey motherfuccer Lips got 5 from most websites I have a PS3 motherfuccing nigger
Nasim, quit your spinning, it's embarrassing. There is a general consensus that Gears 2 is a better game than Resistance 2. Gears 2 has a 93 on metacritic, and R2 has an 87. That doesn't mean that R2 is a bad game, it just means that most reviewers thought that Gears 2 was better. Just enjoy your games and quit posting BS all the time.
I agree with Traveler.This review garbage is rather pointless now
@ Tortilla Poor nasim is going crazy!! just for you.. since you luv using sites just when you need them ..just to bash it later when you dont agree with them you hated eurogamer for giving fable 2 a 10/10 .//but now u call it one of the top 4 websites worldwide? LMAO! just for you..* known websites * Gears 2 Vs Resistance 2 Gamepro-5/5 ................Gamepro 4/5 1UP - A/A+ ....................1Up - B+/A+ Gameinformer 9/10...........Gameinformer 8.5/10 Edge 9/10 .................... Edge 6/10 Gamespy 5/5 .................Gamespy 4.5/10 Gametrailers 9.5/10 ........Gametrailers 9.1/10 Gamedaily 9/10 ............. Gamedaily 8/10 Giantbomb 10/10............... Giantbomb 8/10 No one plays crap box 360? ..wow ..wonder why Fable 2 was the top selling game in october and Gears sold more than 2 millions in 1 day Nasim get some help! and OmarJa..please stop the monumentary blowjob to tortilla..don't be a tool
Tortella, I think it's time to switch off that comp.. and go outside.
Thanks fufotrufo, By showing those stats, (forget GeoW2 for a moment) It actually shows the BIAS Edge does have.... Every comparison is pretty much the same ratio. Except Edge. Umm.. Interesting.
Most overhyped game of the year, along with Mirror's Edge.
Sorry, that would go to Gears 2. But you guys are still having fun with that game, right? So therefore PS3 fans can have fun with this game as well. Jenzo now hits a disagree button and stomps off. And then others followed because they can't answer a simple question.
Funny u forgot the other hyped 360 exclusives... most of them flopped so hard.
Jenzo, serious question, no animosity towards you... Why is R2 "overhyped" and Gears 2 isn't? I seriously want to hear your opinion on that if you would share it?
The only good thing about R2 is the multiplayer part, while Gears 2 delivers a solid experience in all areas, single player, multiplayer, sound, graphics, controls and sheer intensity. R2 doesn't have the same solid feel to it in any of those areas. That's my opinion, like it or not.
Jenzo, have you played R2? Do you own both consoles? If not, then how can you judge R2 when you haven't played it? And yet you cannot answer the question.
If it's simply your OPINION that R2 and Mirror's Edge are overhyped, then I won't argue, you are entitled to your point of view. IMHO, Halo 3, GTA4, and Gears 2 are probably the most overhyped games of this generation thus far. But I digress... I think both Gears 2 and R2 have similar pitfalls. I think Gears 2 survives on its Coop, which is awesome and its best part. I find its MP to be broken, unbalanced, and the matchmaking to be a joke. I personally wouldn't call that a solid experience. I think R2 survives more on its Coop and MP, as the SP is a bit by the numbers and scripted for MY liking. I think both games have pure jokes for bosses. That "sheer intensity" is fun for about 5 minutes, but that 12 yo mentality drips away when I realize it lacks any substance. The finale on the Brumak is so utterly easy its like a freebie. Oh look,blood, guts! Where's the story? Where's the characters to give a damn about? Where the hell is my epic finale, epic final boss, worthy Skorge battle, ending... I could go on and on if I wanted to pick out flaws. See? You can review a game any way you want, depending on preference and hell, even mood. If you say R2 is overhyped as an opinion, you're entitled to it. But don't treat it as fact. I wouldn't treat my opinion of Gears 2 as a fact, considering plenty of people are able to overlook its heavy flaws and enjoy it as well. Thank you for taking the time to answer.
Ultimolu - I have friends who own PS3's. One of my close friends works at Ubisoft in Denmark and gets promos of most new games. I've played both single player and multiplayer enough to form a judgement. Do you own a 360? OnslaughtX - You asked for my opinion and now you seem upset about it because I don't agree with you. I respect your opinion, and I'm aware lots of people like R2. At the same time I respect Edge for their journalistic integrity and how they, unlike many other site, don't just follow IGN blindly.
Not upset at all. Seriously though, thanks for answering.
"The only good thing about R2 is the multiplayer part" Too bad GeoW2 doesn't even have a decent multiplayer.
I've had the pleasure of playing both, and in my honest opinion Gears 2 is still miles better in all areas besides story, which neither is too big on although Resistance 2 has a cooler ending thats for sure. Whoever says it doesn't have a decent multiplayer obviously has never played it. I bought a 360 for the sole reason the multiplayer is so good, and there's nothing like it, which is why the community for it is so big. This review however is downright horrible journalism. This game deserves more credit than these hacks are admitting. Edge is really on their last straw with their credibility if they haven't thrown it down the toilet a long time ago as it is. This whole fanboyism has reached a new low this generation.
Thanks for the lesson in how to have a debate with some civility. I hope some others here are taking notes.
The 60 player online with ZERO lag is incredible. Again, "ZERO LAG". At first it seems kind of hectic and convoluted, until your second game; and I didn't even like R1 online. The co-op is really good too, and "NO LAG". But I will admit that the Single player was lackluster, but only when compared to the epicness of the first game's.
My brother has a 360 and I've played on it before. He only has three games for it because like me, he has his own preferences on what to play. You have friends who have PS3's, I have a brother who has a 360.
LOL @ jenzo's opinions.