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Gametrailers.com: "GT is not biased, PS3 is outdated"

"Look, I'm sick of all the kerfluffle about how GT is biased towards 360 and how GT favors 360 and how GT hates on PS3. That ends now! The fact remains that 360 has just released better content than PS3. Period. See what I did there? I put a period after Period. That means conclusion; the end of discussion. The reason why GT gives 360 games better scores in the reviews is because the games are simply better experiences. The main reason for this--and it is often an overlooked and underestimated one--is because the 360 controller is a far superior gaming device than the Sony controller."

Written by Dblock (staff member of Gametrailers)

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HighDefinition6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

Of how biased they really are. Once a year they seem to get their skirts lifted.

Enjoy.

sushipoop6049d ago

Well this pretty much confirms it. GT is run by 360 fanboys. As if their reviews and comparison videos weren't enough proof of this.

facepalm6049d ago

....Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...

ultimolu6049d ago

That guy just owned himself with that article.

boodybandit6049d ago

I am simply disgusted.
The sad thing is I feel this moron is the norm and not the exception in the gaming media.

Why o why6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

i just clicked refresh and ur pic has changed to another sexy chick lol

Oh and game trailers sucks off viacom who sleeps with MS and they all have that STD known as biasitus eatcumupus

free speach an all that but like ive said b4 theres nothing to stop a blaestar or pog from working in the gaming media (both have good grammar and are actually quite eloquent when they want to be). Working in the media doesnt just magically switch off fanboy tendencies and this is why i dont trust most american sites (no offence) but now you have your 'own team' to shout for a degree of bias is normal. Its human nature and lets not forget that it IS humans that are writing our reviews and forgetting to switch the rgb full on;)

cmrbe6049d ago

suppose to be trained professionals?.

sonarus6049d ago

Who gives a crap if GT is biased. I certainly don't...believe it or not A LOT of people prefer 360 to PS3...does it make them fanboys? No.

I still don't understand why people hate PS3 controller with a passion. Like WTF. I know just as many people who prefer PS3 controller as i know ppl who prefer 360 and more importantly i know even more people who are real gamers who can find a way to enjoy a game without whining about how their thumbs feel like they are going to touch.

Majority of people prefer 360 controller but fooling yourself into thinking PS3 controller (a controller more than 100million people have used and enjoyed) is a piece of crap is laughable.

People need to step away from these fanboy wars and unnecessary comparisons. Play PS3 game with PS3 controller have a good time play 360 game with 360 controller and have a good time. There is absolutely no reason to cease your good time to ponder which controller feels better unless offcourse you have a good time doing that and you are a fanboy

I still don't think GT is biased but its quite possible that there are 360 fanboys that work for them

Time_Is_On_My_Side6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

Why is this posted on N4g (News for Gamers) when this is clearly a blog entry? Grumpy from Invisible Walls is bias that was clarified in the last episode of Invisible Walls.

HighDefinition6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

Because it`s a blog of a GT staff member, not just some random internet dweller.

And this is 1000% NEWS FOR GAMERS, regardless.

cherrypie6049d ago

Wow, are you ever ridiculous.

Dont like what the *respected press says*? call them biased.

Gametrailers is better than N4G. This is the **ONLY** place airing stories from psxextreme, blogspot, blorge and qj.net that are trying DESPERATELY to try and portray NXE negatively.

From the absolute RIDICULOUS lies about heat-issues caused by NXE, frmo top to bottom, this site is broken.

Then, here, and ONLY here on N4G could your comment be rated "Agree(14) | Disagree(0)" -- how ridiculous is that?

So, by YOUR estimation NOT having a hate-on for MS & Xbox 360 (Gametrailers) means they are "Xbox 360 fanboys" -- however, YOU and this site are objective?

Are you the same person who thinks that the 6 stories CURRENTLY on the front page of N4G about "avatars sucking", "NXE sucking", "RRoD" and all having an unrelated picture of the 3RR is 'objective'?

Right. Got it. +14 people on this site need a head examination.

Elimin86049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

But this statement alone is proof why they are bias..."The reason why GT gives 360 games better scores in the reviews is because the games are simply better experiences. The main reason for this--and it is often an overlooked and underestimated one--is because the 360 controller is a far superior gaming device than the Sony controller." better looking or not there are multiplat-games out that look just as good on the ps3 as it does on the 360 and vice versa yet still the ps3 always get knockdown because of the graphics. don't get me wrong the graphics does play a major role but i always thought that the point of gameplay is to really make the player feel like he is in the game and in control.. my classmate has the 360 and i must say i love the 360 control because of it's size that and nothing else "I have big hands" but the dualshock 3 IMO is way better WAAAAYYYYYY Better... and much more responsive.....

Edit: also worth mentioning are the analog sticks on the 360 feels quite good. Not the placement on the pad itself but they are easy on the thumbs..... I think nothing is perfect but seriously be fair.........

I read the article as much as I did not want to, but I wanted to be fair in my critic of this #$$. I can go on and on but I will let the rest of my gaming peers pass on their own judgement.....

ultimolu6049d ago

More like idiotic baboons.

vickers5006049d ago

Quote from the end of the article-
I am a video editor not a writer/editorial staff therefore the views expressed in this entry do not represent those of Gametrailers.com.

Yeah GT is still biased, but I don't think they're as biased as this douche, who is just clearly idiotic. At least I hope not, because I love watching their hd video reviews, its the only place I can find an hd review without paying for it (f*ck you and your fee's, ign, I will not pay for opinions in hi def).

So yeah, I am pretty sure Gametrailers isn't as biased as this moron.

Time_Is_On_My_Side6049d ago

Makes sense even though the person clearly states it isn't an editorial when it is one. Since this person is part of the staff there for is considered an editorial.

Why o why6049d ago

not every site is bias OK BUT GT have over the last couple of years have shown on numerous occasions that they are more in favour of the 360 OR against the PS3. I put it down to simple my team vs their team mentality. Answer me this. Does ANY bias against the PS3 exist in your eyes?

Ill even agree that the front page does look bleak for the 360 TODAY but last weak it was probably full of stories knocking sony and/or the ps3 so that proves nothing as its all down to the mods and contributors.

Maxned6049d ago

This is NOT a full statement from Gametrailers, it is simply an OPINION of a staff member. People need to stop speculating and start realizing the facts.

incogneato6049d ago

As if this wasnt enough proof of GameTrailers bias, there's also an interview with the developers of Tekken where the editor in chief at GameTrailers blatantly bashes PS3 and praises 360 over it.

And let's not forget that GameTrailers is owned by MTV Networks which has a big partnership with Microsoft.

Boycott these idiots. Gamersyde has better quality uncompressed videos anyway.

Nicolator6049d ago

I am a 360 fan but that is way out of line... as a part of a neutral site that all gamers come for advice that is not the way to go...

bad bad. bad..

Homicide6049d ago

This is why you can't trust these people. Even the reviewers are fanboys! This goes to all websites. This is unprofessionalism at it's best.

RPG Guy6049d ago

Not going to Gametrailers anymore. I own both consoles (360 and PS3) and enjoy playing games on both. But this is biased media at its finest. To hell with Gametrailers. They fire this guy, I'll be back, till then, the site is no longer on my to visit list.

So much for being fair. Killzone 2 won't deliver? Have you played the BETA??? F'N clown.

Halochampian6049d ago

read the bottom guys...

"I am a video editor not a writer/editorial staff therefore the views expressed in this entry do not represent those of Gametrailers.com."

drdistracto7076049d ago

lets save money and just get your head examined instead...

oh, and it doesnt take much effort to actually READ the article, and if you were blind enough not to see how biased the article was, then you might as well get your eyes checked too!

Miraak82 6049d ago

I know right!!! I'm able form fit the ps3 controller in to my hand into many types of gaming styles since I've been using it through its many variations over the past 10 years , I love it. but to totally give the higher up on the 360 do to preference in controller design make you seem like there opinions should be taken as not credible. GT just proved that thier a bunch of Fanboys always having the 360 in back of thier minds first and foremost .... blah , screw them

HighDefinition6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

That wasn`t there before.

LOL

sunnygrg6049d ago

Hah, GT IS biased, and PS3 is the future of gaming.

Genesis56049d ago

PS3 is out dated? Yeah it's 5 years a head of it's time.

Mozilla896049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

Well said my friend, I a PS3 fan will give you a 360 fan bubbles as a gesture of good will. I think saying you're a 360 fan or a PS3 fan is a good way to say it. I don't hate the 360 I'm just more of a PS3 fan, the 360 is nice too.

cmrbe6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

Good to see some reasonable x360 fans on this site.

As a PS3 fan i would not approve at all if a game on the x360 would be marked down because of the loud DVD drive in the x360 or because the x360 HARDWARE is prone to failure. Those have nothing at all to do with the game itself.

The hardware which a game runs on should not factor into a GAME review. The review should be solely on weather the game itself is good or not e.g Story,Graphics,etc.

phosphor1126049d ago

So a controller makes the whole console outdated? Or is he implying that the built in Blu-ray, Wi-fi, HDD, charger in the controllers, and free internet access too oldschool? I have never seen a bigger fanboy, ok, maybe I have, but fanboyism of this magnitude calls for a Fanboy Alert on a national level.

yesah6049d ago

someones getting fired...

Sarcasm6049d ago

I am not biased. The PS3 just sucks and the 360 is superior! That's all! Period. You see that? Period. You see that? Question Mark! You see that, Exclamation mark! You see that!!?!?!?!!?

lol

What a contradicting article.

If such games like MGS4, LBP, GT5P, Resistance 2, Uncharted, Ratchet FTOD Killzone 2, etc. etc. didn't exist. Then I'd agree with him. But the fact remains that BOTH consoles have great experiences.

StephanieBBB6049d ago

Either that or this guy is clueless.

I can woop people equally good with both the 360 and PS3 controller. But honestly I prefer the PS3's controller, mostly because it's more responsive/sensitive and light weight than the 360 controller.

Anyhow it's good that stuff like this comes out so people finally realise how fake the review system at some sites are. Shame on GT.

NEO_X6049d ago

its always seems the ps3 side of the comparison videos are poorly edited and this guy is a video editor........ coincidence i think not!

adalwolfe6049d ago

its not biased.. this is just proof that game professionals prefer the 360.. its what i've been saying all along.. 'real gamers' prefer the 360.. not being biased here. its just the facts.

Traveler6049d ago

Oh, just because one guy has a preference for the 360, the whole site is now supposedly biased against the PS3? You guys are too funny.

Is it that he is an Xbox fanboy and dogmatically supports all Xbox 360 games, or is it because he has played a lot of games on a lot of consoles and simply found that he likes the 360's controller and many of the 360's exclusives and is stating how he really feels? I am sure if he had said things against the 360 like those guys over at psxextreme.com did, you guys would be perfectly happy with it. In fact, many of you were perfectly happy with it.

The thing you guys don't seem to realize is that every reviewer has their preferences...that's what it means to be human. We're not robots, thus there is no way that we are going to feel the same way towards all games or all consoles. That is impossible. I've seen reviewers that have an obvious preference for the PS3--like Nate Ahearn over at IGN--and sometimes it is frustrating when you feel that their bias is coloring their review, but that is human nature. The way I see things, all the reviewers out there and their differing tastes and preferences are like a microcosm of the gaming public at large. They are basically a representative sample of all gamers out there in the world. Sure, there are biases. But there is no universal bias in one direction. Some reviewers favor the PS3, some the Wii, some the 360. But I can tell you one thing, just because one video editor over at Gametrailers seems to prefer the 360 does not mean that the whole staff of the site is biased against the PS3. That is silly.

Let me pose a hypothetical situation. Say there were a console that truly did have consistently horrible games (no, I'm not talking about the Wii...ha, ha, jk)...something like the Jaguar lets say. So this console comes out today that has the same quality of games as the Atari Jaguar and how are reviewers supposed to act towards it? Are they supposed to give all of its games equal scores as the likes of Gears of War 2 and LittleBigPlanet in order to avoid being called biased? Would the reviewers be expected to never share their honest opinion that the console and its games suck? Of course not, that is ridiculous. Obviously this is an extremely hypothetical situation and I am absolutely not trying to compare the PS3 to the Jaguar, but I am trying to make a point: game reviewers are human and they are paid to share their opinions about things. It is never going to work out where all the games of every system get the same reviews, nor should we want it to. That would defy the purpose of having reviews in the first place.

Sarick6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

"***DISCLAIMER, 11-21-08, 17:42"

"I am a video editor not a writer/editorial staff therefore the views expressed in this entry do not represent those of Gametrailers.com."

He's the one who makes those comparison videos. It's his job to adjust modify and edit the comparison videos that we watch. The ones showing video quality for PS3 vs 360.

Well. Spank me simple, he don't like PS3 or the controller. He thinks Xbox 360 is superior then says *Period*, followed up by "end of discussion!"

kindi_boy6049d ago

why not everyone get a chill pill and go find something to play rather than whine about whatever they are whining about

Mozilla896049d ago

haha your vast knowledge of punctuation marks is astounding!

Halochampian6049d ago

I got disagrees for pointing out the bottom part. lol. It's like people disagree with anything.

pain777pas6049d ago

I just had to post! LOL! Gametrailer guy just owned himself and if you think that the PS3 is oudated you are a misinformed jabroni patents is what is keeping M$ ahead trust me.

Rock Bottom6049d ago

"I am a video editor not a writer/editorial staff therefore the views expressed in this entry do not represent those of Gametrailers.com."

Haha, so this guy is actually one of the guys behind GT's comparisons videos.

LOL, just lol.

pixelsword6049d ago

...All of the trailers, none of the bias.

DaTruth6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

This is probably the guy who edited that Sega race game where both sides were PS3 and the one crash was far better on the 360 labeled side.

And on another note, I never liked the idea of the six face buttons on the 360 controller, I only have one right thumb.

KRUSSIDULL6048d ago

WOW N4G is the best!
Xbox 360 users sucks they have always wrong all websites giving 360 exclusives high scores sucks. PS3 Owns! Thats how it is at N4G PS3 fanboys doesent even dare to admit that they are fanboys " Hey i own a xbox 360 and a PS3 but i think all games sucks on the 360 and all games on PS3 is the best all websites not giving PS3 games a 10 is 360 fanboys Whehe. Give it a rest.

gaminoz6048d ago

The 360 controller IS better for shooters. I have both consoles and this just seems obvious.

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GWAVE6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

Gee. So basically he's saying "Yes, internet, we ARE as biased as you have said."

Thanks for the confirmation, buddy.

And as far as the 360 controller being a "far superior gaming device"...lol. Go try to play a fighting game on that thing. Heck, try to use the D-Pad for ANY serious task and you'll fail. Plus, I prefer the Dualshock face buttons (square, triangle, etc) to the Xbox face buttons (X,Y,A,B). Period. See what I did there? I put a period after period. Meaning that's the end of my opinion.

DA_SHREDDER6049d ago

I always have trouble turning on my night vision or equipping my claymores or c4 in COD4 and 5. I press right on the darn thing and it just doesn't work out the way I want it too. On the other hand, the analog sticks are better, but the triggers and and shoulder buttons is all a matter of preference. I actually like the shoulder buttons on the ps3 better then the triggers,, but the triggers are nice for racing games.

Also, its not everyone at game trailers that are biased. Geoff Keighley is a ps3 fanboy. I love the way he always talks highly about the console during interviews with xbox devs and PR. He always has to bring up the superior hardware. Its just those damn gaming editors. I too love my 360, and I prefer using it for games that are multiplat, but the ps3 has the best exclusives. Gears of War 2 and Left 4 Dead have put the system in a good standing, but thats the only exclusive games that is even worth having on the system.

GWAVE6049d ago

Keighley actually used to (seemingly) be a 360 fanboy. His questions would always have a pro-360 spin. Yet now, it seems that he's far more supportive of the PS3.

On another note, Pachter used to be a big Sony and Nintendo supporter. He would routinely bash Microsoft for the continued failure rate and "same old" types of games. Now he worships them and bashes Sony any chance he gets.

It's odd, but either way it goes to show that gaming media is just as biased as anyone else.

Harry1906049d ago

Funny comment about the period there. And yes, Geoff is in favour of the PS3 a little more.

But this guy does not form part of the staff in charge of writing reviews.

poeo6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

nah, Geoff Keighley isnt a ps3 fanboy.. last time i heard him speak in a Bonus Round he admitted he doesnt play on ps3 that much, he prefers to play on xbox 360, because his friends are there. when he talks highly of ps3 i think he's just trying to be as neutral as possible, trying not to be a d*ck.

ultimolu6049d ago

We should all pray that he was being sarcastic and this article was a joke. I mean...what the flipping hell. If this guy was trying to prove that GT isn't biased, then he just failed undeniably hard. If GT isn't biased, then they would treat all three consoles EQUALLY and not take any sides.

Journalism in gaming has reached an all time low. Now I remember why I don't visit GT that much.

Elimin86049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

He should try making a full out comparison on the controls itself. i must admit while the control is not so revolutionary it is none the less updated... wireless, bluetooth enabled, sixaxis, curved L2,R2 triggers.. like i said not much but change none the less... the xbox 360 um, um, um well it is wireless and is a different color....which is outdated? the 360 control is the same as the xbox s control which i had....... with the exception of some of the buttons repositioned in the center as oppose to the side like the first big behemoth... Man people like him does create fanboys.... but I shall remain a fan of GAMING PERIOD. see what you made me do... lol

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Raptors6049d ago

Hey everyone is entitled to an opinion. Only thing is I hate alot of the ppl at my work, doesn't mean Im gonna tell them that lol Man that guy pissed off alot of people.

LOL @ 93 comments in 30 mins.

RPG Guy6049d ago

He's basically saying F a product we're supposed to be covering unbiasedly. So basically, he's saying they're biased against it. Too much proof already, and now this is confirmation. GT should be ignored by all except for the hardest of hardcore bots who can watch PS3 vids as their XBOX 360 gameplay.

Marcello6049d ago

Wat an extremely unprofessional & BAISED !! thing to write.

Conformation GT is biased, as we already knew :/

ruibing6049d ago

Confirmation that GT staff needs a dictionary for Christmas to understand the definition of bias and irony.

gamesmaster6049d ago

wow....just...wow. gaming journalism at its best....

naman76049d ago

then make ur site 360traliers, fanboys. i not defending sony and im not A fanboy but for one the 360 control ruins the experince of a game not make it better, have u seen the d-pad??

GiantEnemyCrab6049d ago

Of course and if this had been a rant about the 360 you would all be applauding their journalistic integrity (I've seen it here more than once).

I've never seen so many hypocrites and biased people(PS3 biased) all cry and scream about people being biased.

And before people attack me, yes I am biased but I'm not running around like a loon screaming about a huge anti-360 conspiracy all the time like many who are here right now condeming this persons OPINION!

PS: 360 Controller > PS3 controller (except the Dpad)

thebudgetgamer6049d ago

but this is why video game journalism is a joke. there is nothing wrong about preferring a console but when you work for a supposedly reputable news source you're supposed to at least try not to be biased

:)

Bob Dole6049d ago

So you say:
"yes I am biased but I'm not running around like a loon screaming about a huge anti-360 conspiracy all the time"

right after you say:
"Of course and if this had been a rant about the 360 you would all be applauding their journalistic integrity"

Is it just Bob or did you just contradict tha crap out of yourself?

jmare6049d ago

That is opinion. There is no quantifiable way to measure which controller is better. For every person that thinks the 360 controller is great, there is another that thinks the PS3 controller is great. Just because 360 fans are more vocal abot the controller than PS3 fans does not make the controller necessarily better. I personally think it's just some fanboy bullshit that 360 zealots try to use to "prove" the 360 is better than the PS3.

thebudgetgamer6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

i would respect you if you were not full of it a post made by you today

"Its there, use it if you want, if not just avoid it, that simple."

Funny, that is how I feel about Avatars on the Xbox 360 but that hasn't stopped the bash train. I wonder if I should call it a grand conspiracy?

Anyway, after all the crap I've heard from the Sony gang on the NXE and Avatars, Home will be some bitter medicine.

:)

Why o why6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

sounds like ur crying about us crying ..........that makes sense especially since we're not crying about ur preferred console just GT and their staff. Don't think for one second that all of these exposures have stopped me or many others from watching game videos on their site. Its just that i/we're allowed to express ourselves as much as you are and its ironic that your complaining about us doing so.

GiantEnemyCrab6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

Fair enough. The disclaimer at the end to me says he is not speaking for all of GameTrailers.

thebudgetgamer: Do you care to debate that topic? Or are you just going to call me a liar. Believe me, I am not basing my Home claims without having been in the beta extensively for the last 4 months. For what people are expecting it is going to be bitter and I will be there to remind those who took to NXE bashing and big upping Home with a smile on my face.

Why of Why: Touche! Yes, I guess I am crying about those crying. Now excuse me while I go dry my eyes. =)

thebudgetgamer6049d ago (Edited 6049d ago )

and you have never seen me bash the nxe. i think its sweet and cant wait to use it, and does it realy matter what people say as long as you like it.

:)

edit: i dont expect home to be the next comming i just think i will be cool to meet new people and play some games thats it

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XBLA Classic 'A World of Keflings' Is Coming to Steam, and There's a Demo

"Back in the innocent days of 2010, A World of Keflings was a fairly popular successor to A Kingdom for Keflings. I even wrote about it a few times in 2012! But the world of humans moved on, and NinjaBee's city-building/adventure game was last seen on the ill-fated Wii U in 2014. Fast-forward to the dark year of 2025, and not only is A World of Keflings coming to Steam, but there's already a playable demo! Perhaps the cheerful, no pressure gameplay that the Keflings bring is just what we need nowadays," says Co-Optimus.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola5d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion3d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola3d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin2d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola2d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop2d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola2d ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel11d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris5d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK3d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds2d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar3d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy3d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel12d ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola4d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer3d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused3d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion3d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher3d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer3d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion3d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola3d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje3d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola3d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused3d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno3d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool3d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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jznrpg3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It will come out in another 1000-2000 days or so. I’d rather they remake Morrowind. After they added quest arrows, sprint button, making stats lesser and the big nerfs to spells Elder Scrolls has been too simplified. They could change that with ES6 but I don’t have much faith in modern Bethesda. I would love to be wrong

clevernickname3d ago

Wait until he hears about Star Citizen...