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The Last of Us 2 Spoilers Don't Tell the Whole Story, 'False Things Out There'

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-Foxtrot1419d ago

As someone who has had the game spoilt and the screen caps shoved in my face clicking troll links...I really don't know how you can get around that, they aren't false, what you see is what it is.

Now the 4chan writing stuff, that's most likely fake, it's 4chan, so it doesn't hold any weight other than people stirring the pot.

It's literally one of those moments like Star Wars the Last Jedi or Game of Thrones Season 8 where people won't get it until they've seen it themselves, that's all there is to it. Some haters and fanboys, the people who never gave a shit about this franchise are just exploiting it because they want to bring the game down for the obvious reasons but honestly, the context is there, unless they show that it was, lets say "Oh it was just a dream sequence" which I highly doubt is NaughtyDog's thing.

Vits1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

That was what I believe as well. The videos don't lie, unless there are some deus ex machina moment that reverts everything. That is what we will get.

The written stuff might and is likely fake though.

-Foxtrot1419d ago

Yeah exactly, I don't know how you can watch a video or see screenshots, see what's obviously happened and then say some of it is fake or it doesn't tell full story. At the end of the day it is what it is, people can say "well without the context it means nothing" but having it spoilt and seeing it...I know the context and that's the WORST thing about it, the context, the reason behind it...well it's shit.

I'll still play it and appreciate all the other great looking stuff but I don't think I can ignore something so big, it's going to leave a big stain on how I see it and it would be unfair to pretend it didn't happen or exists since everything else is good.

What I don't like is seeing trolls or fanboys using this to downplay the game, studio and the PS when they were never a fan in the first place.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1419d ago

Lucky me. I avoided all the spoilers by blocking anything and anyone who attempted to spoil the story. From what I'm seeing though I suspect that people are upset because the story coming out in a few days doesn't have the hugs and kisses moments that the first game had. That's not my problem and as such, I'll be playing this game on the 19th before I have to report back to work.

Vits1419d ago

@IGiveHugs2NakedWomen

I'm not going to spoil you. But no, that is not the reason.

ilikestuff1419d ago

The real spoilers are out and it’d be hard to get away from them them with normal writing, if I remember correctly, druckman didn’t say they were fake, he just said something like experience the whole game. I know they didn’t show a lot of things but what they showed was pretty pivotal. I’m really disappointed in what I’ve seen, I loved the first game, played it for years, I hope I’m wrong and this game has a great story to go with it’s gameplay and graphics but I don’t see how that’d be possible with what I already know. I’m not buying the game, I hope y’all that do enjoy it.

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The_Sage1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

Not to be THAT guy, but... Spoiled.

Silly gameAr1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

-Foxtrot4h ago
"As someone who has had the game spoilt and the screen caps shoved in my face clicking troll links...I really don't know how you can get around that, they aren't false, what you see is what it is."

No offense Fox, but you say that on almost every TLOU2 article. We know. If the game isn't to your liking, you are going to be one of the first that said I told you so. The story IS important to me, but the gameplay is just as important. If a game has a shit story, but some of the best gameplay, which is more important to a gamer, would that really be bad? Now, it's a NG game, so I know how important story is. but ND games have good gameplay too.

Now, how many would you say they bought the game based on story, and how many for gameplay? it would probably be pretty even, but the point is, it's different strokes.

Does having a bad story to a game, really stop you from playing a game even if you know that will have some of the best gameplay? .We're not setting here watching a movie like Star Wars, we're playing a game. We can interact, and even if the story is bad, we can still have fun playing the game because the gameplay is steller.

-Foxtrot1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

Look at the end of the day if a studio is KNOWN to have amazing stories and the last game had a near PERFECT written story then yeah it does matter to me

I don’t understand how it couldn’t matter to you, it’s totally different if the story was not something the studio was known for or even if they were just passable but they are known for having fantastic well written stories

If that crucial element is missing or not up to scratch then I’m sorry but I’m not going to a blind fan

I can appreciate the rest of the game along with the gameplay but it’s fanboyish to change goal posts and pretend their main bread and butter suddenly doesn’t matter

Seriously I say this but you’ll probably understand once you get to that part in the game and only then you’ll get it.

Silly gameAr1419d ago

Not saying a good story is not important to me.I think Naughty Dog is one of the best story tellers in the industry, if not the best. I'm just saying gameplay could save a game with a shitty story. If something happens in a movie you like, and you don't like a part of the movie that happened, do you cut off the movie off, or keep watching to see how it turns out? That's how I'm approaching TLOU2

Redemption-641419d ago

Just don't get the game, wait two weeks, go on YouTube and watch other people play it. Just because some of you guys don't like the direction of a story doesn't make it bad. Some of my favorite characters died in fucked up ways in GOT, I was very unhappy with it, but it never made the story bad. The last season if GOT was rushed, if they had gone with 12 or 13 episodes rather than 6 or add another season, things would have ended differently. Also I personally don't give a shit about the last star wars movie, but I know many people that actually enjoyed it.

MajorLazer1418d ago

Very off topic but your last point about Star Wars, the fact that the last film in the trilogy, the one expected to make the most actually made the least suggests a lot of people didn't like IX.

Ceaser98573611419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

I have seen people saying ND pulled a GOT SEASON 8 on LOU2, I find it the comparison is plain stupid.. Reason being D&D rushed to finish SEASON 8 and they went totally off with it... Whereas ND built LOU and they know everything about the game since they are the creator and went ahead with LOU 2 well prepared. Also people hated GOT SEASON 8 after seeing the entire 6 episodes ..

Also that 90 mins leaks doesn't justify the 30 hours plus game.. Disappointed fans (not trolls or haters) should give it a chance and see what led to those event instead of getting angry and mad at ND . And there are alot of fake articles and few youtubers spreading hate and lies about ND and LOU2 .. So please avoid those trolls and give the game a chance. You may end up hating it or loving it but you will at least experience it for yourself. Who knows may be when you finish of the game you will understand how those leaked videos made sense.

Take care guys and stay safe

notachance1419d ago

I would say the same thing but wait until the game is out, check spoiler-free reviews from your preferred reviewers, then and only then give the game a chance.

blindly preordering a $60 game despite all the controversy is the same as blindly hating the game based on some leaked materials, both are stupid

-Foxtrot1418d ago

What people mean by Game of Thrones isn't that this game is rushed but the way they treat the characters and how they've executed that, not because it happened but HOW it happened.

Once again...once you get to that moment in the game you'll understand.

Ceaser98573611418d ago (Edited 1418d ago )

"Once again...once you get to that moment in the game you'll understand."

Well sure. You saying this without playing the game and based on that 90 mins leaks from a 30 hour plus game... I am sure ND has set up path which lead to those moment.. How can you understand from a leak without even playing the game???

Actually FANS form GOT didnt get mad because of characters execution or their outcome and its Game of Thrones almost everyone's fav or hated characters dies . They got made because D&D Rushed. They made no sense. Night king story was built up to the point and it made no sense at all. GOT could have easily been 10 to 12 season and it could have been amazing. Even GRRM said that and he wasn't happy either.

So my point is people are just making up and hating over a 90 mins leak instead of giving the game a chance.
Trolls will dislike because they wouldn't have played but my message is for those Disappointing fans Give this game a chance.

yomfweeee1418d ago

You're literally just in every TLOU2 post saying the same thing. Your hate couldn't be more real for a game you have never played and say a small video of the game that is dozens of hours long.

-Foxtrot1418d ago

And most people here and in the same articles saying the opposite, AKA...the EXACT same thing

Rules for one group

Rules for the other

I'm being fair, I'm writing as sensible as I can, ask yourself though...do you want the same old trolls being arseholes against the game and bringing it down when they aren't even fans or they don't even care?

This criticism should be more accepted because like I said, it could be worse.

yomfweeee1418d ago

I haven't seen anyone say matter of factly like you that the game is awesome. Yes, they believe it will be. They can think that. You can think that it will suck. But stop going into literally every article and acting like you have all the facts. You haven't played it and you have seen hardly any of it.

Ashunderfire861418d ago

Look all we saw was the final blow to a character. We don't know how that character ending up being wounded like that in the first place! Plus there was more than one person in the room. If you recall Neil Druckmann said during the State of Play 23 minute video for Last of Us 2, he talk about Ellie experiencing a tragic event, and also the town Jackson had a tragic event happening! Also, do you remember in the story trailer you see an entire town on fire? Hint hint that could be Jackson's tragic event! You got to connect the dots to understand the full context.

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MadLad1419d ago

If you've seen the leaks, you know the narrative they've created with this. There's a reason there's a disconnect with fans of the original.

Sunny_D1419d ago

Not all fans. A lot of fans don’t go out of their way to have the game spoiled for themselves. Like people who are fans of a movie franchise don’t go out to read spoilers before they watch the movie.

-Foxtrot1419d ago

Lol...out of their way?

Do you really think most of us wanted to get it spoilt

People are arseholes and ruined it for us

neutralgamer19921419d ago

I went out of my way to look up the spoilers because they don't bug me and I still want to play the game it's about the journey

If someone had leaked the first game it was nothing but I escort mission right but look at the journey That's what it's about

MadLad1419d ago

Out of their way? More like existed on the internet the last two months. Stop pretending like the people who didn't like what was shown in the leaks are just people who want to attack the franchise.

Ceaser98573611419d ago

Ya agreed with fox
Some trolls and idiots were picking on those who were looking to play the game and giving them spoilers. On twitter i had 2 dudes abusing me and my family because i want to play this game..

I still cant wait to play the game

I gave spoilers to a fren of mine lol! and i dont regret that because he was kind off hating the game but wanted to play it as well later when the game goes on discount . but kept of saying how he didnt like the narrative of LOU part 1 and LOU PART 2 will be same and was trying to downplay..

chiefJohn1171419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

Ignorant statement, if you're reading this comment I could've easily spoiled it for you. It's that simple people don't go looking for spoilers they just read comments like yours and boom suddenly see someone random say it.

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Battlestar231419d ago

I love the first game and sadly had the 2nd spoiled by some guy on facebook who sent me a PM with spoilers. But despite that i still have the collectors edition preordered and can't wait to play it Day 1.

Tacoboto1419d ago

The fans of the original *played* the original.

If they're actually fans, they'll play this one too, instead of being so easily influenced by contextless bullet points and screen grabs. If they think Naughty Dog to be some of the best, they'll give ND's years of effort into building this sequel more weight than random social media losers

MadLad1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

I played the original on two different platforms. I consider the original one of my favorite games, in general.
I give no developer biased praise, based on past releases. Bioware, Blizzard, and countless other developers have proven to me that a name doesn't make a product.
You're not in a position to decide what is and is not. You're telling me people can only be a fan of the franchise if they support the sequel, but we live in a world where tone deaf games like Fallout 76 exists. Am I a fan of games like Fallout 2, and New Vegas, only if I also support something like Fallout 76? The narrative you're spinning is idiotic.

Tacoboto1419d ago

Convince yourself that Naughty Dog and The Last of Us 2 are being treated in any way even remotely comparable to ME: Andromeda (handed off to B-team), anything Blizzard since Activision took over, and anything Bethesda-developed since Skyrim back in 2011. Want to throw Destiny in that disappointment bucket? Publisher greed. Anthem? Very well-known and documented development hell in both management and technology. Your qualms with The Last of Us? The story you haven't played or experienced for yourself.

And to suggest I'm being idiotic... For suggesting you wait to play the game you're judging based on pictures and words.

MadLad1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

Pictures, words, script, cutscenes. You missed a few things there.

Tacoboto1419d ago

So did you: the context that makes them all fit together.

In fact, knowing the spoilers because I read them myself, I'm reserving final judgment on it until I can experience it for myself and form my own opinion.

Because... Do I even have to explain the importance of forming our own opinions based on our own experiences? I suppose you're fine with writing things off based on how others shape it for you.

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Imalwaysright1419d ago

Nope. As far as I'm concerned Ellie's and Joel's stories ended with the original.

thecodingart1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

As a fan, I’m still buying and playing the game. I’m already prepared to be extremely conflicted. The designers/programmers have done an absolutely wonderful job and will continue to work their magic in order to bring a vision to life. The problem is the vision.... The story is purely dreadful and practically what the movie industry would consider “hot garbage”. One person is at fault within Naughty Dog for this “vision” (Druckmann). A single person is turning the creative work and magic from Naughty Dog into controversial work that doesn’t appeal to the original audience. The man needs to be removed from Naughty Dog.

Mr Marvel1418d ago (Edited 1418d ago )

The original game is my favourite game of all time, yet I won’t be buying the sequel.
It’s not even due to the leaked spoilers, it’s because of Neil Druckmann and his comments over the past year or two.

ShadowWolf7121418d ago

"If you're really a fan, you'll SHUT UP AND CONSUME"

Gosh, that doesn't sound messed up at all. lol

This isn't "bullet points and screen grabs". I've SEEN the things I don't like, FULLY in context. Forgive me for not telling my own judgment to shut up so I can give Naughty Dog another $60.

Tacoboto1418d ago

Ok guys, I get it: Forming your own opinion based on your own experience = Bad.

Letting your opinion be shaped by how others frame it for you = Good.

MadLad1418d ago

You know who also didn't play the game? You.

Difference being I have a negative view on the game, based on the tangible elements leaked on the story.
That's wrong of me, in your opinion, but it's 100% fine to praise the game, in your opinion.

#tonedeaf

I have no issue with people being excited, and purchasing the game. Please do. Don't take issue with my issues on the leaks.

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TKCMuzzer1419d ago (Edited 1419d ago )

I wish people would just play the game first. It’s about gaming yet many so called gamers are already making judgments. Even if the story is not want you want surely you owe it to yourself to find out how that pans out and how it gets where it gets. I have found it quite easy to avoid spoilers by pretty much ignoring most articles to do with the game, especially on here and YouTube.
Plus is a game not planning out the way some people want a good thing? Surely this reflects life in general. We’ve seen people fighting over toilet rolls recently during COVID 19 I can only imagine how evil human beings would be fighting for their own survival under way more extreme circumstances.
Gamers, this is a game, it’s not real life, play it because it’s a game, play it because it will make you ask questions, generate conversation. The gaming community goes on about the medium not being taken seriously , well now is the opportunity, play the game , give your impressions and have a discussion .................or do the opposite, just cry about what you know and don’t do any of the above and have a moan. I know which one I’m choosing, I play games to game.

tontontam01418d ago

Majority of these "fans" you are talking about are just xbox fanboys who watched an entire playthrough of TLOU in youtube, so that they can comment on articles like this.

MadLad1418d ago (Edited 1418d ago )

The majority of N4G can't rationalize a world where you can be a fan of Sony products, yet not kiss their ass, or the ass of every company/ product that they are affiliated with.

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IAreBeMrLee1419d ago

But what the spoilers do tell me is that I'm not going to like the whole story...

Battlestar231419d ago

You won't actually know until you play the whole thing yourself not snippets of it.

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Redemption-641419d ago

@redey3
Wow, you guys are so easily triggered. At the end of the day, you will not be missed.

CaptainObvious8781418d ago

@danom

*rolls eyes*

You don't know the meaning of that word.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN11h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo3h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger11h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto13h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos12h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel12h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator11h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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I’m Glad Atlus & SE Changed Dates To Avoid Competing With Shadow Of The Erdtree

Saad from eXputer: "I'm glad I don't have to choose between Square Enix, Atlus, and FromSoftware due to bad release windows and Shadow of the Erdtree."

H91d 7h ago

More intelligent than guerilla games

raWfodog14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Atlus is releasing their game one week before Erdtree, SE is releasing theirs one week after.

HZD released four days before Zelda, HFW released one week before Elden Ring.

It seems to me like they are still releasing their games too close to Erdtree.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg15h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos14h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola9h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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