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PS5 backwards compatibility will let you play "supported PS4 games with system update"

PS5 backwards compatibility will follow the Xbox approach to supported games, according to PlayStation website

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Hakuoro273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

I'll wait till Spny announce it themselves.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen273d ago

Well the story is tagged as a rumor.

bouzebbal273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

i have a PS3 60Gig for PS3 PS2 PS1 games, PS5 with PS4 BC next to it is the ultimate PS fan dream.
just hoping they allow easy exchange of saves between PS4 and PS5, because having 2 PS4s home is not easy you can activate your profile only one one console.

indysurfn272d ago

VIA update implies it will not be day one. I know the update can be day one. But, there is a good chance it will not be.

Jin_Sakai273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

Having the ability to play old games is a nice feature but I’m getting a PS5 to play next generation games first and foremost.

ManMarmalade272d ago

I'm always going back to my PS1 and PS2 games. To each their own I guess :P
BC is never a bad thing.

Smclaren1985272d ago (Edited 272d ago )

Thank you although it’s still important they made the wright decision to focus on new exclusive first then current PS4 games that’s going to show when they announce new exclusives for ps5 I still hope they added back compat further down the line but new games and experiences are the most important,

garos82272d ago

@manmarmalade no one is saying BC is a bad thing. Sometimes though you got to choose if you gonna design your tech for next gen hardware, sometimes thinking of BC may hinder the progress for revolution. You dont want to be held back by the shackles of last gen. Anyways the retro market is rather popular now and collectors rightfully command crazy prices for retro consoles

BenRC01272d ago

Same, 99% of old games play terribly compared to modern ones. HL2 on the one x really showed its age.

Army_of_Darkness272d ago

playstation gamers excited about ps4 b/c enhanced games as well as next gen ps5 exclusive games, while xsx gamers excited about "the most powerful next gen console' that will offer .....enhanced last Gen/s games......riiiight.

kayoss272d ago

I wanted the original Ps3 so bad for its backward compatibility. but when i got it, i probably only played 4-5 old games during the PS3 life time. Backward compatibility is a nice to have like you stated, but i feel that Sony have a great track record of providing great games to their fans. So theres not a lot of time for me to go back to playing old games. I'm having a hard time keeping up with the new games, let along go back to old old games.

rainslacker272d ago

At least it will reduce the amount of discussion about this topic once it comes. That's a bonus

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darthv72273d ago

We know they have the emulators for PS1 and PS2 games. Those should be a given for the PS5. PS3 emulation has improved greatly over the years but generally was done by one guy (or a very small team). Just imagine if Sony got hold of their work and really refined it themselves and got it running full speed. The PS5 would be crowned the ultimate multi-generational platform instead of the SX being the self proclaimed platform doing that.

neutralgamer1992273d ago

June 3rd is is the rumored event so we will know more. Sony will allow PS4 BC, there will be cross buy (yes before smart delivery) progress will carry from PS4/5 etc

Only people in doubt are those who want Sony to fail but if anyone has been following PlayStation. Long enough they should know Sony will support their device

I think it would be a great system seller feature if the system can play PS3 games and improve

But I am buying ps5 to play what is only available on ps5. These BC features are nice but I want Sony to show what's truly possible with such powerful console and most powerful SSD on the market

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neutralgamer1992272d ago

jojo

if you bought a vita version you got a better look ps3 version for free or vice versa

rainslacker272d ago (Edited 272d ago )

@jojo

It's essentially the same thing. Smart delivery doesnt have to be tied to a distinct build of the game though, and it can be done through a patch using BC style, where it may not be a distinct version, but that isnt a hard and fast requirement.

One thing smart delivery seems to do is that you dont necessarily have to have two distinct versions in your library

Shane Kim273d ago

It says so on Sony's website.

hectorius272d ago

GamingTomarow15h ago(Edited 15h ago)
I'll wait till Spny announce it themselves.***

They already did.. Here
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
you have GT Sport running on an 8K HDR 10+ UHDTV with 10,000nits of luminence.. That was at the 2018 CES just 4 months after GT S released.

Here..
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
you have Spiderman [a 4K PS 4/Pro] title loading in 8.1 seconds on the PS 4 Pro, and in .83 seconds on "next generation" notice how large the next gen TV is to this gen.. 8K???

Mark Cerny Road to Playstation 5

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
[20:00-ish]

"If you have an extensive PS 4 library and would like to take advantage of B/C to play those games on PS 5, then a large external HDD is ideal.. you can leave the games on the HDD and play them directly from there, thus saving the pricier SSD for your PS 5 titles.. Or you can copy your ACTIVE PS 4 titles onto SSD..

"If your purpose in storage is for PS 5 titles though, Ideally you would add to your SSD storage.. We will be supporting certain M.2 SSD.. These are INTERNAL drives you can get on the open market, which will install IN A BAY in the PS5.. As for which ones we will support and when, I'll get to that later.. They connect to the Custom I/O same as our SSD does.. So they can take advantage of the Decompression, IO Co-processors and all the other features I was talking about."

Seems pretty straight forward to me. This is just more FUD created by the media to get hits.

This is nothing like the XBone which dribbled out a few games per month over a period of 7 years and still haven't finished.. More akin to the PS2 /PS 1 B/C or PS 3 Phat/PS 2/1 emulation.. Sony has already stated that the Tempest Engine tech contains as much power as the PS 4, so it isn't unfeasable that its a stripped down PS 4 tech, with faster GDDR 6 RAM emulating GDDR 5. The PS 5 could then upsample it to 8K textures, as seen in the 8K HDR 10+ GT Sport demo.

neutralgamer1992272d ago

they don't want facts they want to believe what they want. sony supported BC with ps3 and the data showed such little amount of gamers used it that removing it saved them money and made the console cheaper

BTW even to this day every ps3 can play ps1 games even if you have ps3 slim

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CaptainCook273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

They've removed it
https://www.playstation.com...

It no longer says

Stunning Games:
"Play a back catalog of supported PS4™ games with system update."

Now it says....

Stunning games:
"Marvel at incredible graphics and experience new PS5™ features."

Fishy Fingers273d ago

As stated in the article "the recently updated official PS5 page in Iceland originally stated"

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RaidenBlack273d ago

I know Sony is focusing on PS4 backward compatibility.
But there are some PS3 titles that many wanted/wants to be backward compatible.
Topping the list would be MGS4. Followed by Killzone 2 & 3, Resistance trilogy, inFamous duology ....
Yes .... We know, PS3's Cell architecture is very different.
It also boils down to Sony's business approach. Do they want to implement this extra emulation feature to level with Xbox.
Or ... with the recent popularity of remakes and remasters, they'll leave the task in the hands of Bluepoint games and rake in extra cash.

ILostMyMind272d ago

I want to have all those games on Playstation 5, but I prefer to have them remade than emulated.

RaidenBlack272d ago

Remade or Remastered?
PS3 titles are not that old, that they demand remakes.
They just need a fresh new coat of paint.

aconnellan272d ago

So you want to pay for them all again full price instead of using your disc?

Tacoboto272d ago

Sony has the resources at their disposal to develop a way to preserve, respect, and enhance your PlayStation legacy.

There is no reason to be against this. It's 2020, a competitor is being currently-unchallenged in this area. A PC emulator and illegal download of an iso shouldn't be the easiest option to play an old PlayStation game. Especially when you still own the disc.

Stanjara272d ago

There is no cell complicated tech, otherwise there would not be uncharted or any other remaster on PS4.
Licencing is the issue. Those licences had 10 years expiration date (or whatever deal was) so now Sony has to renew them aka pay again to those people for their work (music, engine, design..other words intellectual property)

Thing is, now those games would not see sales in millions only thousands, so they are not profitable to renew them for next 10 years.

Some deals go smooth, others not so much.
Konami and Kojima split resoulting in never ending licencing desput.

Laws and deals changed over the years, but for some old games we don't know what the terms were.

Hope they can transfer as much games they can to ps5 as we don't have time to play them all in one generation.

Lore272d ago

I’m on the same page as you. There are countless other amazing PS3 games with trophy support that would be great to be able to put into my newest console so it can be the only device needed in the room. This is also my personal opinion, but I don’t even mind doing without psone & ps2 games, ps3 is the generation that “I” personally prefer. But if they can do it all that would be even better

The_Sage272d ago

If only everyone were as smart as I am and bought the launch 60 Gig PS3 and kept it as I have. I'm just giving ya a hard time... Kinda.

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Knightofelemia273d ago

Rather have other Playstations that the PS5 can play besides PS4

Thundercat77273d ago

Is a nice to have feature but I buy a new next gen console to play new next gen games.

darthv72273d ago

Same here but if a new system is able to also play existing games then so much the better. Just because some games are old doesnt mean they arent worth playing on newer hardware. Esp if newer hardware can make up for any shortcomings said games may have had initially.

ApocalypseShadow273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

It's a cool feature and some old games are timeless. But what's stopping you from playing them right now on the consoles they were made for? Your PS4 works I assume. Not sure about the others you got because gamers end up selling their old consoles assuming the new one plays their old games. Like my PS3 digital games not being compatible on PS4.

And why is Nintendo always excluded from the conversation? How come my old floppy discs don't work on my new computers?

Eventually, some old tech and old software are going to no longer be compatible unless we digitize everything and update the old software repeatedly. But even then, something's got to give. I have a new phone. Some of my old apps aren't compatible. And on my older tablet. Some of the apps that did work got updated and no longer work on my tablet.

Basically who's going to keep spending the money, manpower and resources to keep updating everything so it's not lost to history and for how long should they do so?

I'm all for preservation. But nothing lasts forever.

HumbledManiak273d ago

@ApocalypseShadow

I get where you're coming from and agree that technology moves on.

However, when you look at the rising costs of gaming per generation and that digitally was marked as a means of saving money but on release cost as much as retail, I think it's fair that people don't want to drag out an older console each time they have an itch to play a game.

Likewise, those who have heavily invested in current-gen online games won't want to have to give that up understandably if the game isnt playable or re-release on the new console.

I do replay older titles time and time again and I feel its an important option to have. Considering the architecture of consoles have become more PC like and streamlined with less custom components over the generations, it is more than reasonable to expect BC going forward.

Sophisticated_Chap273d ago

"But what's stopping you from playing them right now on the consoles they were made for?"

Its called technology, and in this day in age, there's no reason Sony can't use their software expertise to make it happen. I'm not sure why anyone would make the argument against something like this. Its time for people to stop being stupid, and demand features from Sony, which are able to be done quite easily, especially with the resources Sony has.

DJStotty273d ago

not only that, it saves stacking up consoles.

As soon as i get the series X, i can sell my xbox one, my xbox one x, and my 360.

ApocalypseShadow273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

I agree humble.

Sophisticated, it's stupid to believe that BC is going to be continued 20 years from now. Not unless it's all digital. But that takes money and a lot of work. Not half @$$ like Microsoft. Because some of the Xbox and 360 games still don't work on Xbox One. I wouldn't expect on Series X. Are you going to call Microsoft out on it? Are you doing it NOW? Then why expect Sony to?

Cerny says PS4 and Pro are baked in from the GDC presentation. But nothing says PS6 will use Blu-ray. PS7 may use magnetic memory storage. PS8 may end up being cloud only. PS9 may end up using those spores in the trailer like some type of compound. I'm guessing emulators will be built into the software at an atomic level.

But unless it's built in like genes, some of these games, software as a whole, is going to vanish. You can't stop the inevitable. I wouldn't expect Sony or any company to keep updating software that ran on something 50 years old. They're not historians.

Ricegum272d ago

DJ Stotty

If you're doing that then why didn't you sell your 360 and Xbox One when you bought a One X? I smell troll.

Hakuoro272d ago

DJStotty

No you can't because only 25% of 360 games work on Xbone and less than 10% of Xbox games work on Xbone.

Lore272d ago

@sophisticated chap

Thank goodness someone else on here has sensible logic & intellect. You said it perfectly. Why on earth would anyone argue or disagree with this logic. It’s literally MINDBLOWING

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Mr_Writer85273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

@Thundercat77

And? You and everybody else, the reason BC is requested is so if you want to finish an old game, or play with friends who haven't upgraded you can.

Surely MORE games to play regardless of which gen they're from is a great thing to have?

Also means you don't have to have another console plugged in if you still have a backlog. And if you still own a lot of games (especially digital) you know you still have access.

It's also usefull when you've played all the launch games you want to play and there is nothing else you want to play for a while.

@ApocalypseShadow
". But what's stopping you from playing them right now on the consoles they were made for? Your PS4 works I assum"

Here's an example, I love Overwatch, my friends love Overwatch. Without BC I would have to keep a PS4 plugged in to play it as not all of my friends want/can get a PS5 at launch.

I already have my Switch, my Xbox, my PS3 and now my PS5 plugged into my TV.

Somethings gotta give.

With BC, no problem, I can carry on playing with my friends and enjoy next gen games on one system.

"I'm all for preservation. But nothing lasts forever"

Neither will the hardware.. With games being digital it's more important, especially since we can't trade them in.

rainslacker272d ago (Edited 272d ago )

Somethings gotta give. I dont think anyone disputes the convenience. The bigger point seems to be that you arent precluded from playing old games if you have the old system, and then there is the discussion on how much influence the feature has over peoples purchasing decision.

For instance, if I didnt have a ps4 this gen, ps4 BC is not going to be a major factor for me. I have a ps4 this gen, and a pretty significant backlog with it, and even if the ps5 didnt have BC, it wouldnt be a factor in me buying a ps5.

I think there are just more important things that most people actually look for in a system

Mr_Writer85272d ago

@rainslacker

"if I didnt have a ps4 this gen, ps4 BC is not going to be a major factor for me."

Not even to play the games you've missed out and probably have sequels?

Would you not want to play HZD, GOW and Spiderman before they get sequels?

ILostMyMind272d ago

I agree. But Xbox did, there's no reason why PlayStation shouldn't, and we should demand that from Sony. Don't be complacent, folks.

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King_Noctis272d ago

If past gens have taught us anything, it’s that in the beginning of every gen there will be very few must-play games. This is where BC comes in, to help fill the gap between big AAA releases.

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