A first look at Unreal Engine 5

Get a glimpse of new and improved real-time rendering features currently in development.

[RaidenBlack]

Developed to devour your Teraflops.

[Nitrowolf2]

Now, this is how you do a showcase! That was freak'n amazing, and done so on the PlayStation 5? This wasn't even by Sony, imagine what their first-party offering is going to be pushing

[SyntheticForm]

Great point about first-party.

Yeah this is really impressive, and well presented.

Looking forward to the future.

[outsider1624]

Jesus Freaking Christ man!!!!! I know it's a tech demo and all...but by God, imagine what Sony's first party studios can do with this tech.

God damn!!! This is how you do it. Next Gen starts when PS5 says so?

[darthv72]

Hot DAMN!!! I can just imagine how Gears 6 will look using UE5.

[b163o1]

Looks amazing, I cant help but to wonder what uncharted 4 would've looked like on the Ps5 now....

[TGGJustin]

Yep Sony first party will be making even better looking stuff than this. Got to love the haters downvoting you too.

[Unspoken]

Let the uninformed gamer commence and say Unreal game engine is nothing but fluff!

Unreal Engine has been and is leading the pack in game developed since inception. This is next gen.

I can't wait to see this on PC at 4k/120fps/atmos....

[darthv72]

Sony first party usually use their own engines but maybe this means they will switch to UE5 for more of their games. Only Days gone is a sony studio game that used UE4. Every other big game had its own dedicated engine. MS games used UE for many of its games and they all looked good (Gears 4 & 5 being the best looking). With Sony onboard with UE, game development should be easier and quicker.

[umair_s51]

That was awesome. This is something that we've never seen this gen. Bring on PS5 & Series X.

[Imortus_san]

This is 30fps and 1440p on PS5.

[mandingo]

I guess a tech demo is better than showing real games. Who knew?

[Neonridr]

I think this is a great showcase for BOTH systems. No need to try to make this one sided over the other. UE5 is going to be able to allow devs to create some amazingly detailed worlds.

win for gamers

[leahcim]

Cannot wait for GOD OF WAR 2ND!

[NewMonday]

@Neonridr

XboxSX can't handle the fast texture loading for the last sequence.

[PepsivsCoke]

@ Mandigo -No, showing a playable demo is better than showing a bunch of CG for "real games".

[Joona10]

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[bouzebbal]

Funny they talk about how incredibly detailed the environments are.. The character animation looks terrible.. The hair movements and the clothes movements are everything but realistic. Feet steps do not match stairs 100%

[CaptainHenry916]

I wonder how the new version of Decima will look on the PS5

[Babadook7]

I would bet Epic was a key developer that Mark Cerny talked to when creating PS5. Which is very likely why PS5 specs REQUIRED at least a 5 GB/s SSD.

[zahdab]

unreal demos are always a tech showcase ... even looking at unreal 4 tech demos right now, they surpass most of what we can got on ps4 and xbox, look a the elemental and chaos demos for unreal 4

[Army_of_Darkness]

UE5 is truly amazing! So I can't imagine what naughty dog and guerilla games engines will be capable of since that's usually the case in every generation... UE looks great at first, until Sony's first party comes in and blows everything away.

[DarXyde]

Unreal Engine 5 looks very impressive, but on this point, I'm more curious to see what Sony's first party studio engines can do. A next generation Decima would be fascinating.

[DJStotty]

@Outsider

Unreal engine 5 is on all platforms.

Next-gen starts when the consoles are out, not when Sony says so.

[NecrumOddBoy]

No need to ever be conCerny'ed when it comes to Playstation. This looks truly nextgen!

Unreal 5 = DAYS GONE 2!

[GTgamer]

You know it 😱

[SyntheticForm]

These are the kind of visuals that FFVIIR deserved.

[RpgSama]

@SyntheticForm

There's always the eventual patch for next-gen and of course FFVII:R 2

[NXFather]

Way better than what xbox did so far but, not as good as ps3 to 4 on this one.

[ITPython]

Days Gone with Unreal engine 4 is, IMO, easily one of the best looking (in top 5) games of this generation by far on console. It is crazy what Sony Bend was able to pull off with it on the PS4 Pro. Though admittingly if my PS4 had wings, It would probably fly away while playing Days Gone. As the fans go into super-hyper-jet mode 100% whenever I play. Had to place a vibration-absorbing pad under my PS4 (meant for large generators on rooftops), otherwise the whole second floor of the house would be audibly vibrating 🤣

[GTgamer]

Sony first party team sitting in the corner ready to devour the PS5 😀

[BLizardXD]

"the demo was reportedly rendering at 1440p using dynamic resolution and without the next-gen bells and whistles like hardware-accelerated ray tracing, Epic told Eurogamer, and at what looks like only 30fps."
https://www.theverge.com/20...

i think UE5 just devoured the ps5 though. what does that mean for ray tracing? 1440p 20fps?
how will the ps5 fare with ray tracing enabled i wonder. and everyone was talking about 60fps too for the console.

[Tech5]

it's great that we are hearing more about Unreal's next jump in technology.
somewhat though disappointed that developers still have yet to scratch the surface of UE4's most advanced features. water and destruction physics. (which are from 4 years ago) plus the new hairworks, and ray tracing.
developers are just beginning to utilize tessellation (which is from almost 2 decades ago)
game development needs to be a lot faster no doubt to keep up with these new features.

as for the ps5. it displays the engine quite well. i'm pretty sure also the next gen will not be able to do all games at 60fps. as we also see here. developers will still have to make choices on what features to use and at which settings.

[GTgamer]

@BLizardXD
Dude it's a tech demo running on a early PS5 dev kit and your worried that it dropped frames 🤔 history shows that unreal engine demos gets surpassed over time especially with further optimization from developers, But ain't no way in hell you expect a game that looks like this to run at 4k 60fps with Ray tracing throw that out the window right now neither console will do that. Anyway this impresses me way more than those ray tracing demos on current gen visuals games so if some devs wanna go this route I'm all for it. We already came to the conclusion that some devs rather go the graphics heavy route and those games will be 30fps as expected and I'm not mad about it, I'm not rushing out to buy a console that plays current gen looking games at 4k 60fps if that's the case I would of just invested in a PC and called it a day, I want games that make my jaw drop and I know sony's first party team will surpass this demo don't know how long it will take but they will.

[fr0sty]

Global illumination is a form of ray tracing... at least make sure you know what you are talking about before you post.

In order for GI to work, the light "rays" must be "traced" as they bounce around the room, enabling them to light up nearby surfaces. For instance, if I put a bright red ball next to a wall and shine a spotlight on it, that light will bounce off the red ball and slightly color the wall next to it with red light.

The other benefits of ray tracing are perfect reflections and far more detailed shadows, which can blur as the object moves farther away from the light source. PBR textures benefit from ray tracing as well, since it is a form of physical rendering.

So, it is "partially raytraced". They aren't calculating reflections and shadows, or at least we don't know they are (those shadows looked damn impressive, as they said, down to the pixel level), but we are getting one of the most important factors that adds a lot to the realism of ray traced rendering, Global Illumination.

[FlyingFoxy]

Can't wait for UE5 on PC, looks great tbh

[milohighclub]

I think it's the exact opposite tbh, built to get the most outta your terraflops would be more accurate. Virtual texturing is already amazing really looking forward to check out virtual geometry.

Also finally getting convolution reverb!!!! Cant believe how far behind gaming has been in regards to audio.

[anubusgold]

Audio is fine companies got lazy. The sound in older games was far better now you just get a bunch of sound pollution . And Microsoft turned xbox live voice chat down to crap the first xbox had better voice quality.

[milohighclub]

Devs didnt get lazy, they just haven't been provided the right tools, until now.
Wait until you have convolution reverb in your games, audio from real life locations it will change everything. No point having photorealistic visuals with inaccurate audio as your brain will see (or hear) through the bullshit.

Say they took an impulse response from the Sistine chapel, when they add that response data it results in reflections that are accurate to the Sistine chapel. Do you understand how much this will aid towards tricking your brain into believing you're actually on location? A more immersive enhancement than raytracing imo.

Combining binural with convolution on vr with megascan environments would be insane. No gamer outside of a studio has experienced this so to say audio in games if fine and devs got lazy is simply just an uneducated comment.

[LOGICWINS]

You guys seeing Summer Gamefest? This is phenomenal! THATS what I wanna see when I put down $499 for a console!

[gamesftw250]

It was so beautiful!

[frostypants]

Yeah, the end when they showed it open up to the outside world without missing a beat...just holy crap. I feel like this is the first time we've seen something that truly displays what next gen consoles will be capable of.

[-Foxtrot]

And this is just the start, imagine half way through next gen

[rainslacker]

This was a lot more interesting than Epic's normal show off tech demo trailers. Showed practical real time application in a pseudo game play scenario. Very well done, and good at describing what was happening with the changes.

[rlow1]

Agreed, usually they don't go into this type of detail or length so it was nice they gave us something so meaty.

[IRetrouk]

Honestly didnt expect a ps5 showing, like you say its usually not said what the tech demos run off(other than massive pc power), cant believe that's a fully playable demo running realtime on a proper ps5 dev kit😀

[russo121]

OMG! Mark Cerny is a genius, SSD here makes a HUGE difference (when flying trough the canyon). I'm speechless!

[rainslacker]

@Retrouk

Even if it wasn't shown from PS5 footage, it still would have been interesting because Unreal tends to follow console tech with each new generations. They do add on for PC as things become available, but this time of the pre-gen is where you start to see what kinds of things will be made. In the past, they've always done really beautiful tech demos, without much explanation outside of documentation or maybe a supplimental video, but the graphics quality was set to the max, which required pretty powerful rigs. Those demos were made to show the potential of the engine, not necessarily what every game would have.

@Russo

yeah, the ability to stream in assets pretty much on the fly cuts out a huge bottleneck, which is basically how many assets can be stored in memory for any given scene segment.

@rlow

Yeah, they did a good job explaining, while showing. It wasn't super technical, but it also wasn't dumbed down for those with less than layman intelligence.

[Fishy Fingers]

Looks like Epic have killed it as the go to engine again for another gen. That megascan purchase being put to heavy use.

Hard to not get too carried away with the Engine tech demos but man, that is fantastic.

[LOGICWINS]

Dude...if this is what Unreal Engine 5 can do, imagine what the the upgraded Decima Engine can do!

The fact that they used the PS5 to demo this speaks volumes. Guess there must be some truth to devs preferring the PS5.

[IRetrouk]

It's that io block and ssd speed man, it's crazy.

[b163o1]

Funny how Teraflops are rarely mentioned anymore. Cerny definitely is a genius...

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I remember they showcased UE4 last gen on PS4. The whole time I'm thinking man I wish they would make this tech demo into a real game.

[milohighclub]

Updated decima will be really nice! However unless they throw in that virtual geometry then ue5 will still be leaps and bounds ahead.
Ue5 just opened the door for actual photorealism in games.

[Kribwalker]

Imagine how good it will look with the extra horsepower the SX is packing. Can’t wait for next gen

[mandingo]

Well, not better than the series x if that’s what ur trying to say.

[RookieMonsterLives]

The demo was reported to be running at dynamic 1440p and 30fps on PS5 and no raytracing. If that is the case, the XSX will easily beat those specs.

"the demo was reportedly rendering at 1440p using dynamic resolution and without the next-gen bells and whistles like hardware-accelerated ray tracing, Epic told Eurogamer, and at what looks like only 30fps."
https://www.theverge.com/20...

[Sprucegoose77]

The difference is minimal. They will both have the minor little pros and cons. If you think 12TF over 10.9 TF is going to make a massive difference if any with all the different factors going on with both systems you are in for a rude awakening!

[PepsivsCoke]

I think part of EPICs demo was that Sony was the highest platform. So......instead, let's see if Series X can run games as well as the PS5?

[CaptainHenry916]

@DrakeFan1

You forgot this part in the article

"That’s because it was designed to show off Epic’s engine tech without needing think about elements like resolution and performance, which will be tradeoffs next-gen developers will have to make regardless of which engine they use or what hardware the game runs on." In fact, Sweeney says Epic has been working closely with Sony for years now on ensuring UE5 can best utilize the upcoming PlayStation's unique architecture."

[milohighclub]

Shame the rest of the sx is a bottleneck. Playstation games will look better once again.

Its 2020 mate, Microsoft is irrelevant in the gaming market. can you stop bringing them up every sony thread? You sound like you wanna suck Phil's cock. It really is very sad.

[milohighclub]

Lol "if that is the case, the XSX will easily beat those specs."

Lol the next box is marginally more powerful gpu wise but the rest of the system is no where near sonys.

If owt it's gonna run almost identical.

I tell you now, you wont see a game on the next gen xbox (for the whole gen) that looks better that tlou2 will look on ps5 (at launch) and that isn't even native to ps5.
Wait til naughty dog build from the ground up for ps5.
You really think xbox is gonna out perform. It's not all what's in the box. It takes talent to squeeze it all.

Look at tlou2 on a pro. Looks better than anything on x and the x is much more powerful.

Use you brain people, it doesn't hurt.

[isarai]

FINALLY! something next gen running on a next gen console! AND GYOT DAYUM!!! eh look gud!

[Noskypeno]

This is just a prerendered cutscene, just like the Sony fans said about Halo infinite and Hellblade 2.

[isarai]

It's not though, has been confirmed by several people including epic themselves that this is gameplay captured straight from the PS5 hdmi port

[FyBy]

Your life is prerendered cutscene! Sorry guys, its filthy insult, but I had to....

[rdgneoz3]

Gameplay (a tech demo) captured from the console vs prerendered cutscenes...

[alb1899]

It is a good demo of the real engine 5 and show to us that 4k isn't necessary because it was running on ps5 at 1440p and looks fantastic!

[Nyxus]

Hm, I thought PS5 was so weak? What happened? Now Epic uses it to showcase their next-gen engine?

[LOGICWINS]

Watching the Geoff Keighly interview now. One of the devs implied that the PS5 was the "best hardware" available and that it would be scaled DOWN for other platforms. 😳

[darthv72]

Scaled down = switch

[alb1899]

Yea maybe that is why DF just said that Unreal Engine compromise resolution to play it on ps5. The game was running 1440p.

[starchild]

If you think it's going to be scaled down for PC you need to think again. And between PS5 and Series X the latter has more performance in the traditional CPU and GPU metrics while the PS5 has a faster SSD and related bandwidth, so most likely you could perhaps call that fairly even, but certainly won't be the case of downscaling it.

It is pretty exciting tech, but it's 3rd party and will be powering numerous games for all major platforms.

[pornflakes]

30 FPS??

lol....

This is how Sony makes their presentations and this is how next gen will look for PS again. You wont see many PS exclusives with 60 FPS - 30 FPS all the way....

However cant wait to see UE5 on the SX

[solideagle]

I thought a game is measured by story/gameplay/fun, not by fps, how wrong was I. I need to literate myself on this topic more, if a game is labelled 60fps it will be insta buy from now on /s

[leoms]

Buy SX to watch porn at 60fps?

[Sunny_D]

Lol, you might have missed the news where MS themselves said 60fps won’t be mandated on the SX. Please go eat crow somewhere else.

[brrdat]

more technological illiteracy.

[GTgamer]

Bruhhhh if I get games with these visuals but it's still 30fps you really think I won't play it 🤔 mannnnn Gtfo I'm playing that thangggg.

[TheTony316]

Sonys first party games on a standard PS4 look better than most MS exclusives running on the X. Won't be any different next gen.

[deadfrag]

That demo is running with 8k textures!So you can bet that 4K@60fps on the PS5 Will be achieved with UE5!

[Kaedro]

Last I heard even Assassins Creed Valhala was going to be at 30fps on the XSX. So... yeah... nice try man.

[Sprucegoose77]

If you think PS5 running something at 30FPS is magically going to make SX run games at 60FPS you're kidding yourself! lol

[PepsivsCoke]

Sony wasn't there. That was all EPIC showcasing their amazing tech on the highest platform. Real gameplay directly recorded from the HDMI port of the PS5. If they want to show off their tech, which they want people to use, wouldn't they choose the best representation? What does that say about the Series X?

[agnosticgamer]

Wo said PS5 was weak? It def. is not more powerful than the SXS if that is what you are getting at... but it is not weak... Why did they showcase their next-gen engine with PS5... maybe a marketing deal with Sony? Or maybe they prefer programming for PS5? Who knows and who cares...

[Jonaspolos]

What u see in this video only a PC can achieve. Sorry pal but PS5 will not be even close to that graphics power.

[PepsivsCoke]

A Diesel has way more "power" than a Civic Type R but the Civic is gonna be faster and way more fun to drive! lol

[Sprucegoose77]

PS5 is by no means weak especially for a console. That said the Xbox SX is a little more powerful than the PS5 but it's very minimal. In real world performance you will see little difference.

[MrVux000]

My only concern for PS5, is whether or not we will get a choice between 1080p and 60FPS or 4K and 30FPS.

Considering the main selling point of next gen is loading times and general performance, i really hope developers prioritize performance.

I don't need to worry about first party games, as they rarely dissapoint.

[safyiirx]

This is being ran at 1440p 30f

[Nyxus]

And I should care why?

[MadLad]

@nyxus

Because this is a gaming machine, releasing in 2020, where 4k is quickly becoming the standard, let alone already looking into 8k, and gamers are finally starting to look at 60fps as what they expect from releases?

[NXFather]

You honestly think that is as good or better than the jump from ps3 to ps4!

[-Foxtrot]

Apparently it was all real time gameplay, so even though it was a tech demo what we saw was actually gameplay, not just for show.

You see that Ubisoft...

[Nitrowolf2]

Yep, they said all they did was plug a capture to the back of the PS5 and recorded it.

[-Foxtrot]

Oh well that settles it then, so Ubisoft just got upstaged by a gameplay tech demo

*claps*

It bugs me because they, and this is mostly a Ubisoft dig not Microsoft, bigged up how awesome the Xbox One Series X is and when they had the chance to show this, like a dedicated third party showcase, they did nothing. So I just feel here, if there's such a big difference in power and the like then you'd think these guys would showcase the UE5 on the Xbox Series X during their third party showcase last week...but they banked on games like Assassins Creed with no gameplay and a cross gen game, like it makes little sense.

Now Ubisoft are talking about DLC and the main game hasn't even been properly revealed, why do people give them money day 1 I'll never know.

[Jin_Sakai]

They just confirmed it was running in real time coming straight from the HDMI plugged into a PS5 Dev kit. It doesn’t get anymore real than that. This is crazy impressive.

I can’t imagine what Sony1st party games will look like.

[Jonaspolos]

PS5 doesn’t have this power.. just show off. Did u saw a PC with 24gb of ram and 24g NV P6000 power working?

[rainslacker]

Yeah. It was real time. Normally Epic does a kind of tech demo trailer, which is usually really impressive, but tends to run on super powerful PC rigs, and likely doesn't see that kind of output through a whole generation, or at least not until that hardware becomes mainstream on PC near the end of console generations.

This was much more impressive, and really shows off some nice features that will be coming for next gen.

[--Onilink--]

To be fair, putting aside that its a tech demo and not a full game, the engine itself isnt even coming out until 2021.

Its kind of harsh to blame Ubi that their cross gen game coming out in 2020 doesnt look as good as a tech demo for an engine that doesnt even come out until next year...

As for how to present how the game look...yeah thats a whole different story and Ubi definitely messed up there

[Godmars290]

"So I just feel here, if there's such a big difference in power and the like then you'd think these guys would showcase the UE5 on the Xbox Series X during their third party showcase last week."

Can only conclude corporate politics were involved. Even with this being multiplatform, Sony just somehow managed to keep this demo from MS's presentation, which very likely would have saved it despite all else.

"why do people give them money day 1 I'll never know."

By "Them" can only assume you mean the industry in general as it seems to be make "misrepresentation" more standard and obvious as ever before.

[TGGJustin]

Exactly. People out here trying to downplay it when they captured it off a PS5 dev kit. This wasn't some CGI BS like others try to pull.

[Noskypeno]

It's easy to make a small section with no enemies look good, it took a while to get the details that were found in the Samaritan demo from last gen. Until we get the game in our hands, we might as well put this right next to the Series X "cgi" trailers that said in engine.

[NXFather]

Those people are haters but, it really does not look as good as the jump from ps3 to ps4. I guess 10x jump just doesn't cut it and the only reason we got the ps4 jump this gen was because how hard the ps3 was to develop for. Launch games from ps3 to ps4 are night and day. This is like a souped up xbox one x. Not kidding at all.

[rainslacker]

Even saying it wasn't "real game play" is kind of disingenuous. There may be some concessions if more was going on, but Epic had a lot going on in a good part of the segments here. The demo itself wasn't really meant to show game play like we understand it, but how the features themselves can be integrated into a game play design. Most of those things the showed can still be done without having to downgrade or completely remove those things when you start adding in things like AI or particle effects.

Epic hasn't talked about UE5 much yet, but those that have the chance to work on it already seem to think it's really streamlined and highly capable of doing more, with much less effort on the devs part.

Personally, while I really enjoyed this demo, because I looked at it as a tech demo, the environment was set up to show off those features they wanted to show off. Compare that to say the Sumaritan demo, and the latter seemed to have more life. But that demo was really set up to show off their new lighting engine which was pretty impressive for it's time. This time, it was more about environmental physics and interaction, as well as world building using engine features to handle object/texture rendering.

One thing I've noticed from this release though is that I think people finally realize what to start expecting from next gen. I feel before, people seemed to talk about it more abstractly, talking more about belief, than any quantifiable expectation.

I hope this opens the flood gates. While I'm not that impatient, gaming news has been fairly boring the past few months.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Even if they did show ACV it would look the same on all platforms. Just no loading on PS5 and XS, that's it. I don't care when they show gameplay now. If you're a current gen owner even a 1x or Pro owner it will look fantastic to you but you're a next gen there won't be any noticeable difference besides loading.

[starchild]

That isn't true. The PS5, Series X and PC versions will have graphics techniques not used on the current gen console versions as well as higher quality settings, not to mention higher resolutions and, for PC at least, higher framerates.

[Godmars290]

Now that this demo is out, its only a matter of time till there's a console/PC comparison. if there isn't already.

[Gatsu]

So insanely beautiful!

[MaximusPrime_]

amazing

[CaptainCook]

Why is this 30fps? The controls are janky

[RazzerRedux]

You still under the delusion next gen won't have 30 fps games? Wasn't that in the news recently?

And what are you talking about "controls"? How do you judge controls without actually controlling the game with a controller?

[CaptainCook]

This Tech Demo was running at 1440p 30fps on PS5 dev kit. I was hoping for native 4k 60fps.

[FlyingFoxy]

Not sure why all the downvotes CaptainCook had, unless it's the part where he said "was hoping for 4k 60fps" DF already said this runs at 1440p 30fps.

I'll be buying a Nvidia 3000 GPU to ensure 1440p and much higher frame rates than 30, but that's personal choice.

[RazzerRedux]

"Not sure why all the downvotes CaptainCook had"

He trolls PS a lot and everyone knows it.

"I'll be buying a Nvidia 3000 GPU to ensure 1440p and much higher frame rates than 30, but that's personal choice.'

As will I. I buy PS for the exclusives and everything else is on PC.

[CaptainCook]

"He trolls PS a lot and everyone knows it."

Calling me a troll? I own a PS4, I mainly play top class PS4 exclusive games.
I was just asking a question, don't need to counter it by calling me a troll.

[RazzerRedux]

FlyingFoxy asked why you get downvotes. I said you troll PS and yes, you absolutely do. Thus, the downvotes. If you haven't figured that out then that's on you as well.

"I own a PS4, I mainly play top class PS4 exclusive games."

That doesn't stop you from trolling PS articles so who cares?

[Sunny_D]

That isn't gonna be as common as people were hoping next gen unfortunately. Devs are always going to push graphical fidelity over performance. If we're lucky, they can hopefully add it as an option.

[RazzerRedux]

This is a tech demo for Unreal Engine 5. It is highlighting the engine's capabilities. This isn't a tech demo to show the full capabilities of the PS5. Sure as hell isn't about the damn controls.

[MrVux000]

''This isn't a tech demo to show the full capabilities of the PS5.''

Slightly off-topic. You actually think we will see things that look even better than this on PS5? I mean first-party devs are good, buuuuut...

Also its a shame, but looking at a greater picture it does seem my suspicions are pretty much confirmed as far as next gen goes. We will most likely have yet another generation of mostly 30FPS games. Which is a shame, a man would think we would be getting options between FPS and graphics by now on consoles...

[RazzerRedux]

@MrVux000

I have no idea. You very well may be right and we have another console cycle of 30 fps games. I'm just saying you can't judge a console based on an early preview of a demo for an engine that won't release for another year.

We don't have enough data to judge any console at this point.

[TKCMuzzer]

Why don't people understand? Everything scales up. As you get higher textures, way better draw distances etc it will eat resources and is a step up from previous gens. Sure, they can give you 4K 60 FPS, but you will get worse textures, worse draw distance etc. Most PC players play at 1080p and switch down their graphics just to get a high FPS. Do you want console game makers to do that? Or do you want to see better graphics etc. You can't have everything.

[rlow1]

Wow really amazing, The tech demo would make a great game.

[x_xavier_x]

This demo is really impressive. It's the first in game footage that has made me truly excited for next gen. The statue at the 6 minute mark looks practically photo-real.

[IRetrouk]

And then they filled a whole room with them, my jaw honestly dropped😲
And then dropped again during the flight bit, then again when they said it was a fully playable demo that would change slightly every play through, crazy, even more excited for next gen now.

[TKCMuzzer]

I think its the lack of pop in that seals it. If next gen eradicates pop in then thats a win.

[TranceHop]

Can’t wait to see how Gears 6 look in UE5.

[XBManiac]

Gears should use their own engine to squize Xbox hardware. They used Unreal Engine because Gears of War was an Epic Games title, used to showcase Unreal Engine. But, if The Collective want to make a better Gears of War, they should use the right tools, not a general purpose base (like Naughty Dog and other first parties). My opinion, of course... nobody else needs to agree with me.

[darthv72]

the coalition does use a modified UE4 for making gears 4 and 5. They will likely be doing the same with UE5 for Gears 6 because you know MS and Epic have a pretty good relationship regarding UE use. Gears was built on UE... to use something else seems sacrilegious.

[Tex4242]

Looked great. Next gen consoles will be amazing after the launch hiccups, but this engine shows what will be possible. Just wish it was a real game and not a tech demo. Looked like some futuristic Tomb Raider.

[AnubisG]

Now THIS is what I wanted from next gen guys. This is next gen finally. So happy to see this.😆

[TeamIcoFan]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BYho...

[Godmars290]

When is Sony doing anything official?

[XBManiac]

First, Sony has to release The Last of us 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Iron Man VR, etc. When done, it will be next gen time.

[Godmars290]

Meant in terms of presenting a presentation for next gen. At best would hope they'd start with PS4 games to show differences in load times, any backwards compatibility, then show what the PS5 can do.

Get David Hayter and Otacon's VA to voice a skit about Snake complaining how he has no time to smoke between load screen in MGS4.

[akaFullMetal]

Rumored to be in June

[Destiny1080]

The Sound and Haptic feedback is going to bring a whole new level to PS5 Games

[agnosticgamer]

This demo would look better on SXS when optimized to the full potential. Why? Because SXS is a more powerful system (sorry those are just facts). The game will def. load faster on the PS5 though.

Great looking games will be present on both next-gen systems. Buy the system you prefer or why not both? Enjoy all the games and have fun.

Or buy the PS5 and play 1p Xbox games on PC... Who cares games were meant to be played and enjoyed doesn't matter the system.

[IRetrouk]

It might but I doubt it, alot of what you are seeing is thanks to the io block and ssd speeds, listen to the interview part of the video, both things the ps5 has the advantage in.
Why use the ps5 to demo it if the xbox could produce better?

[agnosticgamer]

lol... called marketing deals... XSX is more powerful to deny that is ridiculous Specs have been released. Great games / great looking games will def. come to both platforms though no doubt about that.

[IRetrouk]

So sweeney saying sonys ssd and io architecture is far ahead of anything, thats marketing? Ok.

[Sunny_D]

Not to mention, Epic and MS have had a great relationship and not so great one with Sony in the past. To say that about the PS5 says a lot.

[milohighclub]

Just because it has higher flops doesnt mean its gonna put out better quality games.
Your forgetting the fact that sony are not only much better at making consoles and games than ms.
Ms might have the flop count but sounds like literally every other thing about the ps5 architecture shits all over the xbox.

An overall better optimised console will shit all over something that just has a gpu advantage. Especially with the quality of talent ps has. Something xbox is severely lacking.

Why do we get these delusions every gen?

[darthv72]

Sweeny said the SSD tech in PS5 is better than anything previous or on PC now. He didnt specifically say the SX in that statement. PS5 has fast data transfer, but so does the SX. Maybe not AS fast but still faster than PC tech currently. So it's no slouch either.

[starchild]

They would have shown it on PC if they wanted it to look best, so clearly there is some other kind of deal behind the scenes or some other motive that affected their decision to show it on PS5 first.

[Destiny1080]

with a broken ram setup and directx coursing through its its Vains

XSX is set up for easy Pc porting nothing more nothing Less, of course there will be rays of hope like sea of thieves water Effects and Forza

[RazzerRedux]

XSX has 17% more compute capability and partially faster RAM. How that translates into game performance, we don't know. Assuming you would see a noticeable difference for this tech demo is baseless at this point.

[cooperdnizzle]

No the xbox is not more powerful. M$ went with old teraflops over speed and custom IOs. M$ built a off the shelf pc and Sony have gone and made a custom console. It is not a fact that m$ has stronger system they have more teraflops, Sony has a custom audio chip, faster speed way better thru put with IO and RDNA 3 features. That is just like saying a mustang with more horse power can beat a porsche with less horse power. Nope that are many many things you have to factor in. Quote me now Sony will have the stronger more advanced console. They engineered a console and and M$ threw together a strong pc!

[starchild]

You really think the PS5 is going to outperform gaming PCs and Series X in multiplatform games? I bet you that won't be the case. And don't bring up exclusives because there's nothing to compare them to. There's no PlayStation version of Halo and no Xbox version of Uncharted, so it's not an apples to apples comparison. It's mostly just a subjective conclusion at that point.

I think a number of Sony studios will create arguably some of the best looking games of the generation, but I think you're not being realistic if you think the PS5 will outperform Series X and, especially, the PC in general game performance.

[GreatSako2020]

Tim said that this demo is running on the absolute best hardware available by end of this year. What hardware this demo is running on?
If anyone doesn't believe this, go to the interview with Geoff @ 20:25 and listen carefully.

[PepsivsCoke]

A Diesel has way more "power" than a Civic Type R but the Civic is gonna be faster and more fun to drive! lol

[darthv72]

I know my diesel was fun to drive. Esp when I would hit the gas and all this black smoke would bellow from the exhaust. I felt like james bond using a smoke screen.

[PepsivsCoke]

Let me clarify for darthv72. A Semi has way more "power" than a Civic Type R but the Civic is gonna be faster and more fun to drive! haha My Diesel truck was fun to drive as well. Just a lot bigger and harder to zip around. ;)

[XBManiac]

PlayStation 5 tech running in real time... Well... Let the games begin!

[FlyingFoxy]

Can't wait to grab a next gen Nvidia card for games in this engine!

[Baza]

Now that’s next gen. Yea pretty Series X couple more TF are going to be irrelevant.

[Killer73nova]

This looks freaking amazing. Can’t wait to see how this looks and runs on the series x would hope they can hit 60FPS

[taurul]

Now this is next gen!! This is how I imagined for years how next gen should look like.
A very important aspect is quixel megascans integration in UE5. That Rebirth tech demo by Quixel is closer than ever! Look for it on yt.
I'm glad that 3rd person is in 30fps as it has that cinematic effect. I only like 60fps on shooters, sports and racers.
Great display for the PS5. I can't wait for Sonys event!

[NextGenCeo]

This is next gen staff and this is Playstation AGAIN!

[TheTony316]

Imagine Horizon 2 and God Of War 2 running on the PS5.

[Bytor]

Can you imagine Uncharted 3 multiplayer and co-op remastered and expanded on the PS5 you would get all the depth and cinematic feel of the PS3 version but with amazing graphics and 60 fps

[aquamala]

it's only running at 1440p/30fps

[kfk]

...with 8K textures, multi-bounce direct global illumination, no normal maps, and tens of millions more triangles than any game has ever contained before. But simplify it for yourself if you need to, I guess.

[Anomander]

I would be curious to see the Series x running the same Demo side by side with the PS5 just to see the numbers and how each console renders the demo.

[silenthillstrangler]

Um xbox this is how you show off what your console can do.

[jcole97]

This is what I expect from next gen! This makes me even more upset that microsoft didn’t show this type of stuff at their reveal.

[Noskypeno]

While last week was disappointing, we still have a good idea what it can achieve with Halo Infinite and Hellblade 2 and project Mara along with the Medium, and this is no more game play than the games I mentioned so if those games aren't showcases then neither is this.

[milohighclub]

Not unless they're using megascans I believe hellblade is but halo, lol, not a chance.

[milohighclub]

Dude these are using movie quality 8k megascans and shits all over anything microsoft has put out.

[jcole97]

Yeah, no doubt. Still excited to see what they have to show.

[pabadamus1]

Leave it to epic to show us what next gen WILL look like. I am finally, fully saturated with excitement. This little demo has captured more of my attention than anything else so far. Screw the FLOPS and the SSDs. Give me games that look like this

[derek]

On the ps5

[Petebloodyonion]

Impressive!
Really looking on how dev will optimise the engine.

[laoboy_Smoke]

Wooow! I'm super excited for next gen, mainly because everyone can enjoy third party games with no compromise. Now we can really see what these first party developers can do. Sony has already proven itself, can't wait to see what Microsoft can do!

[DrDeath]

Who cares it's just a tech demo. Remember unreal engine 4 tech demo? Still people making photo realistic visuals with that. Never come close

[milohighclub]

Finally!! A real next gen looking game! Also cant wait to get stuck into 5. Had some very hi poly pampas grass I've been dying to use, triangle reduction and heavy LODS still wasn't optimal enough. Well hyped.

[derek]

WOW, The sound is incredible, imagine the next God War on the PS5. That scene when she takes flight omg.

[waverider]

What a move from Sony.... Omg. The social media is crazy with the reveal. Gameplay. Again gameplay running on the ps5!!!!

[ps5fanboy]

this isnt even showing the rtx... no pop , beautiful lighting... tip of iceberg? im in.

[DiRtY]

This is a multi platform engine, just like every unreal engine before.

Yet it turned into a stupid console war for some reason.

It looks great and will run awesome on all machines. Period.

[starchild]

I agree, it's sad. It's a third party engine and it had to be shown off on something, whether PC, PS5 or Series X. We should just be excited together for what the future of game graphics will offer, but instead some are trying to turn it into a "look at what PS5 can do, no other platforms compare" kind of thing.

[Relientk77]

This looks insane! I hope they turn this into a game, because I want it.

[MrSec84]

It would be awesome, same is true of the UE4 demo at the PS4 reveal, Samaritan back in 2012 or whenever would have made a sick game, along with that Infiltrator demo a while back.

[Benficaman]

Ray tracing, what? This is next gen, and no need for raytracing. Just mind blowing,

[NeoGamer232]

I disagree. The choice of technologies will be dependent on what you are trying to achieve in the game.

If you are in a foggy setting for a game ray tracing will improve it a ton. In bright settings ray tracing is probably a waste.

[Benficaman]

Ok, you may have a good point there.

[MrSec84]

Why not both?
PS5 can do this full on data heavy GI technique, along with have full RT using the RDNA 2 Intersection Engines.
I'm pretty sure that the guys from Epic mentioned that Hardware RT is featured on the engine, they just wanted to show off an alternative or addition available to developers that want to build games using this awesome new tech.

[ybadr]

One tech demo and Xbox Series X Y Z is history

[VeiDoSaco]

So does this means.... i wont ever have to retopologize assets again? as a zbrush user, this is the best news i will get this year. Assuming the PS5 can really handle a 15 million polygon character with a full set of animations

[Zodiac]

People need to go back and watch the Unreal Engine 4 video and see that no games look as good as that video to this day. These videos are pointless

[ps5fanboy]

this was presented on a early p5

[Zodiac]

Yes, we’ve done told this many times a video is presented. I don’t know why it would be true now. It’s a tech demo. I remember the WiiU tech demos looked amazing, and then nothing came close to looking liked it. I’ll be waiting for full, actual reveals.

[MrSec84]

Loads of games look better than the UE4 demo at the PS4 reveal from 2013.

[starchild]

Not really. No games look notably better. Certainly not "loads". Some of the best looking games this gen have achieved similar levels of quality as the Elemental demo, but none have yet matched the Infiltrator demo overall.

[MrVux000]

We got better looking games in 2013-2014 alone... what are you on about?

[Zodiac]

Like what?

[MrVux000]

@Zodiac

Killzone:ShadowFall for example.

Later on we got games like Order 1886, Ryse Son of Rome, Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy, Horizon Zero Dawn, Red Dead Redemption 2 etc

[green]

"Later on we got games like Order 1886, Ryse Son of Rome, Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy, Horizon Zero Dawn, Red Dead Redemption 2 etc"

You just proved Zodiac right because none of the games you mentioned are running on UE4.

[DerfDerf]

@outsider1624 If the hype is over the video content than I would suggest nextgen starts when Epic says so. This tech is universal.

[BlackIceJoe]

Game developers take note, show gameplay and how your game runs, not CGI trailers.

On another note, hopefully Epic will continue to turn this concept into a real game, instead of just a demo to show what their Unreal Engine can do.

[ps5fanboy]

i just thought , imagine superman

[Cmoney007]

I still have a few concerns about the PS5, but this video is quite impressive. This is what people always want to see from a video that explains new tech.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

They should release a tech demo for PC, to stress test it. This can easily run on current hardware. RTX 2070 Super I have can run this pretty easily and smooth no doubt. With my 3950x upgrade, no problems :D On another note Nvidia’s 30-series GPUs will have 21 tflops of performance. 4k with everything maxed running at more than 60fps, oh yes :D

[SamTheGamer]

This is what we call next-gen 'gameplay' running on PS5..

[gold_drake]

i dont think ive ever been this AMAZED by a bunch of ruins and rocks lol. that looked amazing omg. and people thought we dont see a jump in graphics haha.

[Tex4242]

All these console war comments, or it's just a tech demo. Cant it just be something that's gets us excited that the next gen is coming. I am.

[NeoGamer232]

The interesting part....

"Unreal Engine 5 will be available in preview in early 2021, and in full release late in 2021, supporting next-generation consoles, current-generation consoles, PC, Mac, iOS, and Android."

https://www.unrealengine.co...

I would like to see this same demo on all the different platforms.

[jBlakeeper]

THIS is what I expect next gen to look like at the least. Now just think of Sony’s first party offerings.

[GamingSinceForever]

You mean to tell me that all this time she could fly, yet wasted all that energy climbing rocks? Lol!

[MrSec84]

She had to get the power, she took the blue light and used that stand thingy to get the power.
This would make a cool game.

God I wish Epic would turn tech showcases like this into full games, Infiltrator and Samaritan would have been awesome if they could be fleshed out into full games.

[GamingSinceForever]

Oh I see. I will watch it again later.

[Joona10]

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[MecheSlays]

Man, it's gonna be funny seeing how everyone that thinks the ps5 is more powerful and can do things the SX can't will go back on their words. all because they didn't wanna accept it.

[galmi]

This is what MS should have done last week, fantastic tech demo though running at 1440p 30fps, but MS need to wow also, hope the next event does so

[waverider]

with 8k textures... And blow out of the water everything we have seen until now. Wait, this was the first gameplay powered by a next gen machine...

[quenomamen]

Naughty Dog you know what to do...........

[Kiwi66]

Curious to know if people would be as impressed with this demo if it was shown on a Series X dev kit instead of a PS5 one

[vivid83]

Yes they would

[sushimama]

PS5 is already winning and Sony haven't shown off anything besides the controller. Epic and Unreal showed what the PS5 is capable of, but Sony haven't even started yet.

[WelkinCole]

Ok that was seriously impressive. Notice how dynamic the scenes are near the end when she was flying really fast? Reminds me of the Spiderman demo Sony had for the PS5 showing what they can do with their fast SSD.

[MadLad]

So 1440p, 30 fps, and we're praising what was on screen? It looked good, but I'm expecting more performance from a console releasing at the late end of 2020.

[leoms]

As someone who played UC4 this is way behind. I'm pretty sure TLOU2 will set another benchmark

[potedude]

Interesting quote from Tim Sweeney

"“Sony has really done an awesome job of architecting a great system,” Sweeney says. “The storage architecture on the PS5 is far ahead of anything you can buy on anything on PC for any amount of money right now. It’s going to help drive future PCs. They’re going to see this thing ship and say, ‘Oh wow, SSDs are going to need to catch up with this.’” The PS5, combined with tools like UE5, will enable “nothing but seamless, continuous worlds, and you can have this degree of fidelity going on for as many kilometers and gigabytes as you wish,” Sweeney adds."

[starchild]

Pretty exciting stuff. And it's true, the PS5 has an SSD that's faster than anything currently available for consumer PCs. To be fair though, the PS5 isn't available yet and by the time it is available there will probably be NVMe SSDs for PC that are faster. Currently I have an NVMe drive with 3.5 GB/s read speeds and I could even buy an NVMe PCIE 4.0 drive (since my X570 motherboard offers PCIE 4.0) which currently top out at 5 GB/s. The PS5 will have a raw read speed of 5.5 GB/s, so it's definitely a bit faster. However, Phison has reported they're working on a new controller that will soon allow NVMe drives to reach up to 7 GB/s.

On the other hand, Sony seems to be doing some great things with its I/O capabilities and decompression. It's definitely blazing fast in this regard and I'm very happy that they decided to do something novel with the design, instead of just the typical design with faster CPU/GPU and more memory. This, along with the fact that Microsoft is doing something similar (albeit not as fast), is going to really help gaming move forward.

[GreatSako2020]

It is not about the speed of the SSD. It is about the I/O. 6.5 gb/s ssd is still not fast enough to match the PS5.

[masterfox]

PS5 WON!

[IAreBeMrLee]

The future looks bright... and full of small triangles

[frostypants]

Holy s....

[ironmonkey]

With Microsoft and their billions and can't even do a proper show case . Now this is how you showcase next gen, grown man style and that's just a tit bit. Sony now has the millions excited all over again. Ps5 is guaranteed going to repeat ps4 era all over again.

[ITPython]

Wow... this is insanely impressive 😲. Gave me goosebumps watching all the way through! And I think what this shows us more than anything is how much easier it is going to be for developers (big and small) to create amazing looking/running games for the next-gen consoles.This demonstrates not only how incredible a game can look on a next-gen console like the PS5, but also how many less steps devs need to take in order to make a game look/run this good. Very exciting stuff! I think gaming is going to witness an unprecedented boom next-gen. Just imagine small indie developers being able to belt out games like this!

Gotta hand it to Epic, I wasn't the biggest fan of the Unreal engine back in the PS3/360 days due to the PS3 version of third-party games always running/looking terrible compared to the 360 version (despite the PS3 being FAR more powerful). Lazy (or paid off) third-party devs in those days and their piss-poor PS3 ports ruined Unreal engine for me for a while. Every time I saw a game developed with it, I would think "Oh great, another poorly optimized Unreal game for the PS3 that's going to look blurry and have framerate/performance issues". But in the PS4 generation, I came to truly appreciate the engine. A game such as Days Gone, IMO, is one of the best looking games this generation (easily in the top 5 for consoles). It is mind boggling what Sony Bend was able to accomplish with Unreal Engine 4. So the thought of Days Gone 2 on Unreal engine 5 on the PS5??... yes please!!!!!

[ziggurcat]

Here's hoping they fix that godawful texture pop-in for this version.

[burntriverfarms]

It was so beautiful! Looking forward to the future can just imagine how Gears 6 will look using UE5.

[Chaos_Order]

"Next gen won't see much of a graphical leap."

[GOULDYBOBS]

Obviously looks great but I would be interested in how it performs in a less linear game environment

[BenRC01]

No doubt series x is a beast, but once again ms completely balls up an opening and sony pounce. Someone needs to be fired over there

[Amphion]

So from what I gathered Unreal Engine 5 won't be able to run on XBOX Series X?

[Perez]

i kinda want them to make the tech demo into a full game it looks good.

[lio_convoy]

Nicely done, Epic Megagames! #ZZT

[GamingInFrames]

A tech demo is designed to get one hyped, and it's obviously working. But the problem I have with this are the numbers - 1440p/30. The other problem I have is with Assassins Creed: Valhalla on the X running at 4K/30. All that said, It's difficult to achieve 4K/60 and even more difficult to achieve 4K/60 (LOCKED), which is how I've been playing.

[DJStotty]

I understand this is the 1st bit of PS5 news since the controller reveal, but come on guys.

These UE5 features will be on Series X and PC, just admit it.