Don’t expect Elder Scrolls VI news for years: Pete Hines

Pete Hines suggests the game is years out.

[cammers1995]

Nobody gives a flying fuck about starfield. Fallout and elder scrolls is where the money is and Bethesda is too stupid to realize it.

[ifinitygamer]

Starfield could be massive. They're starting a new franchise because with Todd Howard at the helm, he could create a third franchise of the same class of Elder Scrolls or Fallout, then they've got three big guns of this quality. They're playing the long game. And let's not forget the first months of Fallout 76; even massive franchises are not immune to poor decisions and quality out of the gate.

[anonymousfan]

I agree with you but cammers1995 has a point I mean damn we have had two Fallout games this generation one of which was shit and zero elder scrolls other than cheap re releases. It sucks.

[Hungryalpaca]

I wonder how many lies he’ll fit into this one.

[b163o1]

I'd rather have them take there time with Elder Scrolls and FallOut. Fallout in my opinion needs a rest, cause they've disappointed more and more after each release. With Elder Scrolls, I'm sure the game is going to be massive and everything you'd expect from and ES, it's just not it's time at this moment. I have high Hope's for StarField, hopefully they've updated there game engine, and it stuns people at the reveal...

[_SilverHawk_]

Why would they release elder scrolls VI when they can release games that they can continuously syphon money from peoples pockets.

[Axonometri]

I do. I do a fair amount actually. Both of them would be great to see before I am dead. Which might come before Bethesda decides to stop tinkering with settings and make the damn games.

[KyRo]

It's Bethesda. Gamers will go on to say that Starfield is a incredible game even if it's a bug ridden, poorly animated, ugly, glitchy mess that comes from any Bethesda developed game just like Fallout and ES.

People will praise Fallout and ES but slate other games with far fewer issues and boycot it. They continue to out out mediocre games because gamers and the media give them a free pass for making very average games.

[-Foxtrot]

If they managed to find a really good developer, it's a shame they couldn't make things like Fallout New Vegas, second, maybe smaller titles then their main counter parts

Release then at least 3 years after the main game and at least then the time waiting for the next game is shorter.

[ifinitygamer]

Agreed, they have to have a proper cadence set out for all this stuff years in advance, but with three massive games, also need three massive development studios, and Todd just has to be better about splitting his time up, because they need to be developed concurrently and even learn from each other.

[Vegamyster]

I'd love to see something in the vein of the old Fallout games done by Larian Studios, their last two Divinity games have been some of the best RPG's of the last few decades and they're doing the new Baldur's gate.

[BlackIceJoe]

I think Bethesda working with Larian Studios would be cool and they have the skills to help make Elder Scrolls or Fallout games.

Though I think it would be smarter for Bethesda to buy Topware Interactive, they made the Two World games, but this time they would have the resources to help make Elder Scrolls games.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I was not anticipating to release for a good while. Just like CDPR announced CP2077 in early 2013. Elder Scrolls will be in a similar fashion. Probably release near the end of the gen to take full advantage of the now matured X Series and PS5 hardware. As suspected, this game won't be on my radar anytime soon.

[ifinitygamer]

I'm hoping it's not quite thaaaat long. With any luck, Starfield is out by holiday 2021, let's say. Then maybe a three to four year dev cycle on Elder Scrolls VI? So Holiday 2025? Yeah I guess that is maybe closer to the end of the next-gen given a 7-8 year cycle, but maybe they overlap development a bit and we get Elder Scrolls VI in 2024. Who the heck knows?

[anonymousfan]

Ugh so sad I want a new elder scrolls game so bad. I liked the witcher but for some reason TES is the game I keep going back to.

[jgilbert11]

Man, they sure revealed ES VI waaay too early. We all knew it was coming, they didn't have to do a reveal. All that did was set up a reason to be let down by Bethesda yet again.

[IanTH]

Kind of funny how sentiment is shifting. It was previously lauded that they teased ES6 and Starfield because it helped show that they weren't abandoning their core franchises when they showed off their mobile and spinoff trashier games. This was in stark contrast to Blizzard, who did not tease their big hitters and showed off their mobile trash by itself, and they were crucified for it.

Not saying they deserve a pass, necessarily, but they did what feels like the right move for the time. It didn't end up squashing disappointment more so than it feels like it just flattened the disappointment curve, stretching it out so that the negative sentiment is kind of overlapping with their recent missteps. Beth was in a better overall position pre Blades/FO76/Wolfenstein Cyber Pilot/Youngblood/etc. They've certainly a lot less social currency now than they did back at that conference lol.

[DragonWarrior19]

They kind of had to that E3, they knew Fallout 76 was going to be not well received the second they said "online". Not to mention they spent the entire E3 show crapping on Elder Scrolls fans because they had the audacity to ask about TES6 since Elder Scrolls has been dormant since 2011. They did make it clear that E3 that it was going come after Starfield which was a next gen game, we knew back then it'd be a long time before they said something. Also I still firmly believe with how defensive and agitated Todd Howard gets when anything Elder Scrolls is brought up, he really does not want to make them anymore but has to since it's Bethesda's bread maker.

[jambola]

unless they release something good between now and then i won't really care

[ifinitygamer]

Starfield!!

[jambola]

bethesda

[SegaSaturn669]

Skyblivion is all we need. Shame we can't get it for consoles, though :/

[ApocalypseShadow]

That's fine. I didn't play Skyrim until VR. Make Starfield VR compatible and I'm good until the return of dragons.

[porkChop]

I've been saying it from the beginning. March 25, 2024. It's years away, yet Todd Howard knows the release date. It's launching for the 30th Anniversary of the series.

[ifinitygamer]

Solid. I like this. Could totally be this!

[WillyC009]

Good thing I don’t care about any of the products Bethesda makes anymore. All of them are bug infested, archaic engine, terribly optimized messes.

Take as long as you need.

[ColdSin]

It seems that they are taking concrete measures to improve their tools and build new ones.

[AuraAbjure]

@ ColdSin How did you learn that?

[MadLad]

The last great game they made was Fallout 3, and even that was overshadowed by New Vegas; a game made in half the time, on a budget, and with a much smaller team.

[Vegamyster]

Vegas used 99% of the same assets and was a far buggier game at launch.

[SyntheticForm]

I agree.

I thought Fallout 4 was a good game, but I think Fallout 3 is the better Fallout game. Hit all the right notes. Inon Zur's soundtrack meshed perfectly with the world, further instilling that feeling of isolation and loneliness, and hope at times.

Superb soundtrack.

[MadLad]

@vega

Saying half of the assets were reused would be an exaggeration, let alone 99%. I'll also remind you this is the same engine Bethesda had been working with, for over a decade, and they still have issues with it. What Obsidian pulled off, no matter the size of the team, the small development cycle, was actually highly impressive.

And let's not forget they still actively patched the thing, post-launch, even after getting screwed over in their bonus for the game.

[OakBur]

That's like saying Majora's Mask took 1.5 years which is so much quicker than Ocarina of Time's 4 year dev cycle, even though Majora used like 80% assets from Ocarina!

[MadLad]

@oak

Majora's Mask actually did though. Exact same character models, and a whole bunch of reused assets.
Can you point out the supposed giant amount of reused assets between NV and 3? The world seemed night and day to me, but I already addressed this.

[Vegamyster]

Character models, menus, enemy/weapon models aside from the few new ones are largely the same, they even have the same grass, tree and road textures shared between them. Change the textures to brown in Fallout 3 and brighten up the game a little and it would be a spitting image of Vegas.

[MadLad]

@vega

So they reused some textures, and weapon models, and the UI? So that accounts for more than 2 years extra for Fallout 3s development? The character models weren't "reused". They did the exact same thing with Fallout 3, and Oblivion, where many of the non-essential NPCs were simply randomized, being the system allows for that.

When it comes to the weapon models and ui, that is them keeping to the new style for Fallout that Bethesda created. Reusing textures makes complete sense, being that they're already there. What's the point in creating an entirely new 'broken road' asset, when one already exists? You can't even pretend to tell me, despite, logically, reusing some textures, or the odd model, here and there, that either world is in any way similar to each other, outside of being obviously built off the same engine.

My point stands that, in a year and a half, Obsidian, with a smaller team, and smaller budget, built a more feature rich game, with more player agency, more mechanics, (subjectively) better writing, where Bethesda, with the larger team, larger budget, delivered a good game, though it took them more than twice the time, and they've been working with the same broken engine since the late 90s.

[JEECE]

I know a lot of people on here are too cool to like Skyrim, and many others have just soured on Bethesda generally, but I think anyone can recognize how insane it is to create one of the most successful games of all time, then take over a decade to follow up on it, regardless of how many rereleases they have done. Probably one of the only relevant comparisons is Valve failing to make Half Life 3 (and Half Life 2's sales are probably significantly less than Skyrim's sales).

[jambola]

yeah, but plenty of people/teams do something great and go downhill
ea has some great games too

[ColdSin]

There is this guy on youtube called "Skullzi TV" that is continously looking at trademarks, documents, etc. related to Bethesda and Zenimax. He is the guy who found out that Bethesda Softwork's next title is Starfield and was not credited for his find. I recommend him for any updates on the Elder Scrolls and Starfield.

Edit: Skullzi TV just released a video on his channel. Some interesting change occured on Starfield's website. The title is already being rated at the ESRB, this suggests that the game can come out at the end of this year.

[CrimsonWing69]

So, why’d you tease it in the first place?

[MadLad]

Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 came out at the same time. Since then, all we got from Bethesda was 76; while CDPR is about to give us Cyberpunk.
One's an indie studio, albeit, now, with a lot of money, the other is one of the largest, most highly financed developers around. Bethesda is one of the most overrated developers out there. This is simply a personal opinion, but their three great games were Daggefall (for the time), Morrowind, and Fallout 3. Everything else were mediocre in many ways.

[Wrex369]

I can't wait for starfield I want to see more.

[Kabaneri]

Were gonna be aging by the time Fallout 5 releases. Bethesda and Rockstar take too damn long to release games.

[AK91]

Does it even matter anymore? By then we'll have a new Witcher/CyberPunk game, FF7R part game, Persona game and god knows how many other worthwile RPGs by then.

[AuraAbjure]

I myself am curious how gamebryo will hold up next gen amongst all those hard hitting titles.

[AuraAbjure]

They need to invest in a modern 64- bit game engine.

[MWH]

The game is announced for a generation but most likely will be played by another.

Such is life.

[Stanjara]

Since they are using updated old Morrowind engine, I've lost all hope for it.

[Sirk7x]

Just remake Morrowind please.

[MadLad]

They'd ruin it. Keep the original, and let modders do their thing.

[mkis007]

I still haven't played all the skyrim dlc, who knows if i ever will. But im set for a while.

[RaidenBlack]

Obviously Starfield to be given more precedence.
Same as asking in 2018 about the next Witcher game, when Cyberpunk is the next priority for the studio.
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The point of revealing the ES6 teaser? We all got Howard-ed.
And yes Fallout 76 is a dumpster fire.

[gold_drake]

of course not, i mean
A Game that is loved by millions of fans and is STILL very popular by alot of people?
PAH new information? oh the blasphemy! how dare we!

[Kaedro]

Better change the title to "Don't expect good news/games from Bethesta for years"

[WarCouncilGaming]

I'm sort of hoping, for all that Todd has given us, that by the time ES6 is properly under way, Bethesda parts ways with Howard and Hines. They've both been jousting for position to see who can take the crown from Peter Molyneux for best BS hype man in gaming.

These two are still trying to legitimize and monetize Fallout76. I'm not sure I want them anywhere near ES6.

[j15reed]

My kids will be grown before this ever comes out, I know Skyrim was great but it's to get past that and put something out.

[MadLad]

I was just out of high school when the game came out. I'm now coming to terms that I'm going to be 30 fairly soon lol.

[gunnerforlife]

Let's just hope it's not as big or a glitch fest as the ps4 elder scrolls